DUST Search - Modded controllers

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:

Sequal's Back wrote:

Kaltos Darksbane wrote:

Alright CCP, its time to finally start doing something about this. Its becoming rampant.

What do you think they can do about this ? Absolutely nothing.

The problem is not about developing a program that detects modded controller as it's pretty easy to do.

I just don't think they have the right to stop people from playing with a different hardware. It's illegal to use a software that will modify values in the game, but a hardware that brings those values to their maximum level (by virtually pressing buttons really fast) is allowed. Thus, they don't have the legal right to block them (even if it's BS I grant you that).

Why do other developers fight this in major AAA titles ?

Why in the forums of other games , the community bans together to put a stop to or have the developers of said titles put a stop to such actions and those games prosper ?

Why don't you people want Dust to prosper .?. is it because it's on a console and your one of those PC MASTERRACE types .?. why do you people fight against balancing matchmaking ?

Everything that this game needs to bring it in line with other games to create a greater attraction to a larger audience is fought against tooth and nail .

You same people cant support this game all by yourselves and that's what's going to end up happening , more people will leave and the people who fought against balancing this game will be all that's left and then , will that make you all happy ?

I just can't understand why CCP is allowing you types to rule the game while it suffers in such a state .?. that's what I just can't understand for the life of me .

They can do something but they just choose not so for some reason or another . They can create a balanced matchmaking system but for some reason or another they just choose not to and then talk about how constrained they are and the lack of funds and resources .

Things are just not adding up .

I don't have anything against you because I don't even know you besides your comments on the forums but this game needs help and it's time the community comes together to help and stop hindering this games progression .

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Kaltos Darksbane Shadow Wolves Inc. 709	Posted - 2015.10.09 14:40:00 - [1] - Quote Alright CCP, its time to finally start doing something about this. Its becoming rampant. If you don't receive the answer you want please be patient, my "F**k's Given" dispenser is broke.
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.10.09 14:48:00 - [2] - Quote Kaltos Darksbane wrote: Alright CCP, its time to finally start doing something about this. Its becoming rampant. What do you think they can do about this ? Absolutely nothing. The problem is not about developing a program that detects modded controller as it's pretty easy to do. I just don't think they have the right to stop people from playing with a different hardware. It's illegal to use a software that will modify values in the game, but a hardware that brings those values to their maximum level (by virtually pressing buttons really fast) is allowed. Thus, they don't have the legal right to block them (even if it's BS I grant you that). Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER ! - Sequal Rise
Kaltos Darksbane Shadow Wolves Inc. 709	Posted - 2015.10.09 14:55:00 - [3] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: Kaltos Darksbane wrote: Alright CCP, its time to finally start doing something about this. Its becoming rampant. What do you think they can do about this ? Absolutely nothing. The problem is not about developing a program that detects modded controller as it's pretty easy to do. I just don't think they have the right to stop people from playing with a different hardware. It's illegal to use a software that will modify values in the game, but a hardware that brings those values to their maximum level (by virtually pressing buttons really fast) is allowed. Thus, they don't have the legal right to block them (even if it's BS I grant you that). What CAN they do about it? Well, actually anything they want. As you said its a simple program to develop. What WILL they do about it? I agree, probably nothing. If there is no rules in play at this time doesnt mean CCP cant implement new rules to the EULA whenever they want. Its their game, not ours. If you don't receive the answer you want please be patient, my "F**k's Given" dispenser is broke.
Radiant Pancake3 1	Posted - 2015.10.09 14:59:00 - [4] - Quote Ha! 696. Learned the ways of N4g from Alcina's mom Deemed the most Kinkiest Corp Mate. Min Loyalist.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 16	Posted - 2015.10.09 15:02:00 - [5] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: Thus, they don't have the legal right to block them (even if it's BS I grant you that). That's silly talk, breh. I don't have the explicit "legal right" to jump up and down while farting. Yet I can do so freely, without any threat of arrest or fine. It wouldn't be illegal to safeguard DUST against the use of turbo controllers and/or macros. No one at CCP would get arrested if weapons jammed when oversampled or fired with super-human cadence. Dropsuit Usage Rates
Jared Fogle Fake Ancient Exiles. 2.0 139	Posted - 2015.10.09 15:08:00 - [6] - Quote They haven't implemented anything since day 1 to fight modded controllers. What makes you think they are going to now? Becuz you asked for it, I'm sure it will be done. Besides ratatitties is on touch with the community. That's why we're able to trade quafe weapons now. Right.
Kaltos Darksbane Shadow Wolves Inc. 709	Posted - 2015.10.09 15:23:00 - [7] - Quote Jared Fogle wrote: They haven't implemented anything since day 1 to fight modded controllers. What makes you think they are going to now? Becuz you asked for it, I'm sure it will be done. Besides ratatitties is on touch with the community. That's why we're able to trade quafe weapons now. Right. Well maybe, and i know its unlikely so just save the backtalk, just maybe if enough of us complain and b!tch about it enough they might(however doubtful) listen. If you don't receive the answer you want please be patient, my "F**k's Given" dispenser is broke.
Shart Machine Gallente Federation 20	Posted - 2015.10.09 15:25:00 - [8] - Quote Is there a rule that the developers have against using the "turbo" controllers, or are you trying to say they need to implement one?
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Four Horseman Tactical Agency 2	Posted - 2015.10.09 15:32:00 - [9] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: Kaltos Darksbane wrote: Alright CCP, its time to finally start doing something about this. Its becoming rampant. What do you think they can do about this ? Absolutely nothing. The problem is not about developing a program that detects modded controller as it's pretty easy to do. I just don't think they have the right to stop people from playing with a different hardware. It's illegal to use a software that will modify values in the game, but a hardware that brings those values to their maximum level (by virtually pressing buttons really fast) is allowed. Thus, they don't have the legal right to block them (even if it's BS I grant you that). Why do other developers fight this in major AAA titles ? Why in the forums of other games , the community bans together to put a stop to or have the developers of said titles put a stop to such actions and those games prosper ? Why don't you people want Dust to prosper .?. is it because it's on a console and your one of those PC MASTERRACE types .?. why do you people fight against balancing matchmaking ? Everything that this game needs to bring it in line with other games to create a greater attraction to a larger audience is fought against tooth and nail . You same people cant support this game all by yourselves and that's what's going to end up happening , more people will leave and the people who fought against balancing this game will be all that's left and then , will that make you all happy ? I just can't understand why CCP is allowing you types to rule the game while it suffers in such a state .?. that's what I just can't understand for the life of me . They can do something but they just choose not so for some reason or another . They can create a balanced matchmaking system but for some reason or another they just choose not to and then talk about how constrained they are and the lack of funds and resources . Things are just not adding up . I don't have anything against you because I don't even know you besides your comments on the forums but this game needs help and it's time the community comes together to help and stop hindering this games progression . Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 1	Posted - 2015.10.09 15:36:00 - [10] - Quote There is a simple solution to this: SUE SONY FOR NOT MAKING TURBO BUTTONS ON THEIR CONTROLLERS!!!!!!!! That is all. My sweet summer is gone. <-- Great song, please click :D

Kaltos Darksbane Shadow Wolves Inc. 709	Posted - 2015.10.09 15:39:00 - [11] - Quote Shart Machine wrote: Is there a rule that the developers have against using the "turbo" controllers, or are you trying to say they need to implement one? If there isnt one already they ahould develop one. If ther is one they need to find a way of enforcing it. If you don't receive the answer you want please be patient, my "F**k's Given" dispenser is broke.
Summa Militum Art.of.Death 1	Posted - 2015.10.09 16:28:00 - [12] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: Kaltos Darksbane wrote: Alright CCP, its time to finally start doing something about this. Its becoming rampant. What do you think they can do about this ? Absolutely nothing. The problem is not about developing a program that detects modded controller as it's pretty easy to do. I just don't think they have the right to stop people from playing with a different hardware. It's illegal to use a software that will modify values in the game, but a hardware that brings those values to their maximum level (by virtually pressing buttons really fast) is allowed. Thus, they don't have the legal right to block them (even if it's BS I grant you that). Legal right? The **** are you talking about. This is CCPs game so if they wanted to, and had a way to detect modded controllers, they could put a stop to the use of Modded Controllers with or without any blessing from the law. Think about it; do you actually believe anybody would get away with suing CCP for implementing a means to ban the use of Modded Controllers?
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.10.09 17:19:00 - [13] - Quote No games block the use of modded controllers, the developpers only block the RoF of weapons careful so that they dont change anything. Don't know if you guys remember the story, but sony once tried to "punish" people who were cracking/jailbreaking/whatever their ps3. They got mass attacked by Anonymous because they were violating the right of doing whatever you want with the hardware you buy. I believe it's the same thing with modded controllers. They are legal and useable freely. Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER ! - Sequal Rise
Thumb Green Elephant Riders 2	Posted - 2015.10.09 19:41:00 - [14] - Quote Always funny to see people defend performance enhancers, some people even admit to using them and then go on to brag about how good and elite they are. Funny indeed. Sequal's Back wrote: Don't know if you guys remember the story, but sony once tried to "punish" people who were cracking/jailbreaking/whatever their ps3. They got mass attacked by Anonymous because they were violating the right of doing whatever you want with the hardware you buy. I believe it's the same thing with modded controllers. They are legal and useable freely. Yeah, and what did that accomplish? Nothing. At this point Anon might as well be considered a false flag because they do far more harm than good. Shit man, all I ever get is fucking warnings.
Viktor Hadah Jr 0uter.Heaven 9	Posted - 2015.10.09 19:51:00 - [15] - Quote it's pretty annoying, all the people who kill me use them. I'm kind of a big deal. Buying dead and inactive corporations
Nirwanda Vaughns 1	Posted - 2015.10.09 19:58:00 - [16] - Quote There is very little CCP can actually do. its not an illegal program the controllers use or anything, it just presses a button really fast by itself in the controllers circuitry. Unless CCP make dust only work with an officially licensed CCP controller and no other usb/wireless controller then there isn't anythign they can do. its hard to figure out wether a rapid fire mod button is being used or not simply because of lag. i had chance to use a rapid fire controller bout 18months or so ago and went into faction. shot my buddy with it on and off and because of the lag on his end he died just as quickly each time. So when someone you think fired their weapon a little too fast, it could just be the ping delay catching up. Sure a lot of guys will use them on burst and CR's but they do still jump around a fire bit (i hammered button as fast as possible last night to test kick of the new burst on galass) and tbh the only real benefit you get is less cramp in your trigger finger Please fix my C-II hitpoints!! Jesus and I love you :)
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.10.09 20:00:00 - [17] - Quote Kaltos Darksbane wrote: Alright CCP, its time to finally start doing something about this. Its becoming rampant. Current alternatives for modding make blocking this activity totally impossible. We are not talking about the old days of a turbo switch with set timing. The only voice for a port is the voice of reason from money drying up. More skins and 1% damage to keep Dust on PS3.
Kaltos Darksbane Shadow Wolves Inc. 709	Posted - 2015.10.09 20:09:00 - [18] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: There is very little CCP can actually do. its not an illegal program the controllers use or anything, it just presses a button really fast by itself in the controllers circuitry. Unless CCP make dust only work with an officially licensed CCP controller and no other usb/wireless controller then there isn't anythign they can do. its hard to figure out wether a rapid fire mod button is being used or not simply because of lag. i had chance to use a rapid fire controller bout 18months or so ago and went into faction. shot my buddy with it on and off and because of the lag on his end he died just as quickly each time. So when someone you think fired their weapon a little too fast, it could just be the ping delay catching up. Sure a lot of guys will use them on burst and CR's but they do still jump around a fire bit (i hammered button as fast as possible last night to test kick of the new burst on galass) and tbh the only real benefit you get is less cramp in your trigger finger Not true. What they can do is set a program that notices unhuman firing rhythms and alert proper people inside CCP, who can then dish out apprpriate disciplinary actions upon those players to curb the use of such devices. If you don't receive the answer you want please be patient, my "F**k's Given" dispenser is broke.
GRIMm grin the vengeful dead 2	Posted - 2015.10.10 03:50:00 - [19] - Quote It is very easy to detect turbo ffs metal gear solid detected turbo controllers and if a ps1 game could do it so could dust but it seems like ccp doesn't care I mean it wasn't til after loads of people used modded controllers that Ccp made the assault scrambler
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.10.10 03:56:00 - [20] - Quote GRIMm grin wrote: It is very easy to detect turbo ffs metal gear solid detected turbo controllers and if a ps1 game could do it so could dust but it seems like ccp doesn't care I mean it wasn't til after loads of people used modded controllers that Ccp made the assault scrambler Controller modding has come a long ways as well. The only voice for a port is the voice of reason from money drying up. More skins and 1% damage to keep Dust on PS3.

Clotheshanger Abortion Y0UTHINASIA 88	Posted - 2015.10.10 04:24:00 - [21] - Quote Kaltos Darksbane wrote: Alright CCP, its time to finally start doing something about this. Its becoming rampant. Prove to me someone else is using a modded controller. Say with 100% certainty that they are. Do it, please. "Excuse me while I kiss this guy..."
Jonny D Buelle The Warlords Legion 2	Posted - 2015.10.10 04:25:00 - [22] - Quote Clotheshanger Abortion wrote: Kaltos Darksbane wrote: Alright CCP, its time to finally start doing something about this. Its becoming rampant. Prove to me someone else is using a modded controller. Say with 100% certainty that they are. Do it, please. Technically I do. To combat the dead zone on my right analog stick I use an FPS Freek that extends it. Technically it is a mod. Director of T-W-L Keeper of the List Lord of Scrubs
Clotheshanger Abortion Y0UTHINASIA 88	Posted - 2015.10.10 04:27:00 - [23] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: Clotheshanger Abortion wrote: Kaltos Darksbane wrote: Alright CCP, its time to finally start doing something about this. Its becoming rampant. Prove to me someone else is using a modded controller. Say with 100% certainty that they are. Do it, please. Technically I do. To combat the dead zone on my right analog stick I use an FPS Freek that extends it. Technically it is a mod. You cheating bastard! ******* modder. Damn super strafer. Get gud, nub. "Excuse me while I kiss this guy..."
Jonny D Buelle The Warlords Legion 2	Posted - 2015.10.10 04:31:00 - [24] - Quote Clotheshanger Abortion wrote: Jonny D Buelle wrote: Clotheshanger Abortion wrote: Kaltos Darksbane wrote: Alright CCP, its time to finally start doing something about this. Its becoming rampant. Prove to me someone else is using a modded controller. Say with 100% certainty that they are. Do it, please. Technically I do. To combat the dead zone on my right analog stick I use an FPS Freek that extends it. Technically it is a mod. You cheating bastard! ******* modder. Damn super strafer. Get gud, nub. B-but. Its for aiming... runs away crying Director of T-W-L Keeper of the List Lord of Scrubs
Clotheshanger Abortion Y0UTHINASIA 88	Posted - 2015.10.10 04:41:00 - [25] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: Clotheshanger Abortion wrote: Jonny D Buelle wrote: Clotheshanger Abortion wrote: Kaltos Darksbane wrote: Alright CCP, its time to finally start doing something about this. Its becoming rampant. Prove to me someone else is using a modded controller. Say with 100% certainty that they are. Do it, please. Technically I do. To combat the dead zone on my right analog stick I use an FPS Freek that extends it. Technically it is a mod. You cheating bastard! ******* modder. Damn super strafer. Get gud, nub. B-but. Its for aiming... runs away crying chases after you with pitchforks and torches "Excuse me while I kiss this guy..."
Jonny D Buelle The Warlords Legion 2	Posted - 2015.10.10 04:43:00 - [26] - Quote Clotheshanger Abortion wrote: Jonny D Buelle wrote: Clotheshanger Abortion wrote: Jonny D Buelle wrote: Technically I do. To combat the dead zone on my right analog stick I use an FPS Freek that extends it. Technically it is a mod. You cheating bastard! ******* modder. Damn super strafer. Get gud, nub. B-but. Its for aiming... runs away crying chases after you with pitchforks and torches hides in abandoned windmill I am not a monster! Director of T-W-L Keeper of the List Lord of Scrubs
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 44	Posted - 2015.10.10 11:53:00 - [27] - Quote Kaltos Darksbane wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: There is very little CCP can actually do. its not an illegal program the controllers use or anything, it just presses a button really fast by itself in the controllers circuitry. Unless CCP make dust only work with an officially licensed CCP controller and no other usb/wireless controller then there isn't anythign they can do. its hard to figure out wether a rapid fire mod button is being used or not simply because of lag. i had chance to use a rapid fire controller bout 18months or so ago and went into faction. shot my buddy with it on and off and because of the lag on his end he died just as quickly each time. So when someone you think fired their weapon a little too fast, it could just be the ping delay catching up. Sure a lot of guys will use them on burst and CR's but they do still jump around a fire bit (i hammered button as fast as possible last night to test kick of the new burst on galass) and tbh the only real benefit you get is less cramp in your trigger finger Not true. What they can do is set a program that notices unhuman firing rhythms and alert proper people inside CCP, who can then dish out apprpriate disciplinary actions upon those players to curb the use of such devices. They would have to be very sure of themselves. Any doubt at all would mean they couldn't pursue the alleged infringement. In fact, even if there is no doubt, they probably still wouldn't pursue it because they couldn't know for sure.
Bradric Banewolf Titans of Phoenix Damage LLC 1	Posted - 2015.10.10 14:33:00 - [28] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Sequal's Back wrote: Kaltos Darksbane wrote: Alright CCP, its time to finally start doing something about this. Its becoming rampant. What do you think they can do about this ? Absolutely nothing. The problem is not about developing a program that detects modded controller as it's pretty easy to do. I just don't think they have the right to stop people from playing with a different hardware. It's illegal to use a software that will modify values in the game, but a hardware that brings those values to their maximum level (by virtually pressing buttons really fast) is allowed. Thus, they don't have the legal right to block them (even if it's BS I grant you that). Why do other developers fight this in major AAA titles ? Why in the forums of other games , the community bans together to put a stop to or have the developers of said titles put a stop to such actions and those games prosper ? Why don't you people want Dust to prosper .?. is it because it's on a console and your one of those PC MASTERRACE types .?. why do you people fight against balancing matchmaking ? Everything that this game needs to bring it in line with other games to create a greater attraction to a larger audience is fought against tooth and nail . You same people cant support this game all by yourselves and that's what's going to end up happening , more people will leave and the people who fought against balancing this game will be all that's left and then , will that make you all happy ? I just can't understand why CCP is allowing you types to rule the game while it suffers in such a state .?. that's what I just can't understand for the life of me . They can do something but they just choose not so for some reason or another . They can create a balanced matchmaking system but for some reason or another they just choose not to and then talk about how constrained they are and the lack of funds and resources . Things are just not adding up . I don't have anything against you because I don't even know you besides your comments on the forums but this game needs help and it's time the community comes together to help and stop hindering this games progression . All the normal controller players: https://youtu.be/tzUUFwbPaE4 I'm trying to tell ya bro! I been waving this flag in the forums forever!! +1 C'mon CCP shut em down! Make em fight straight up! Watch how these so-called "top corps" crumble when you level the playing field! I mean granted CCP alot of us just have gotten so many skill points, and are so skilled that we can body the modded users. However, if you want the playerbase to grow get rid of this bs! Any macros, glitches, modded controllers, programs, etc. That titan one bs is just disrespectful. To the community.... REALLY? Are you that horrible of a player that you need this? Show me where the bad man touched you lol! How do you guys not want this gone? Get gud scrubs! "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf Titans of Phoenix Damage LLC 1	Posted - 2015.10.10 14:45:00 - [29] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: it's pretty annoying, all the people who kill me use them. That's a long list "Anybody order chaos?"
catsrule D3ATH CARD RUST415 21	Posted - 2015.10.10 14:57:00 - [30] - Quote I've seen modded controllers countless time, and to all the people who say "prove it" it's a dead give away. For example the duvolle tactical ar, I know when people are spamming the ** out of the fire button, the shots won't always sound directly one after another, but the modded controller, will make the gun like a lazer. People who haven't seen this, you guys are lucky. But I know almost every 3rd match there is always one guy using is. It annoys me that they can come down to this level. And people are like it's illegal to stop players from modding our game systems. And no. Most games already have a system to detect that **. But dust is part of the many few that don't. CCP create a system that detects ROF errors in weapons! Than they get banned, simple as that!!



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