DUST Search - Anybody noticed the balac's ck.0 stats ?

Echo 1991 wrote:

Sequal's Back wrote:

Echo 1991 wrote:

Aeon Amadi wrote:

Echo 1991 wrote:

Delays fine but the shield rep rate is too high with 2 modules.

It's actually insane, imagine if an armour suit could rep at half that rate with 2 modules.

Bearing in mind that:
Armor is all about HP
Shields are all about Regen

Armor isn't exactly mean to have that high of regen and while it is possible through other means (Triage Hives, Repair Tools) the personal regen rates of Shield suits should not be taken as a grain of salt. There should be fundamental gameplay and design differences between Armor and Shields that are notable immediately as soon as you encounter them.

Shields have high regen rates, yes, but they are very vulnerable to high alpha damage (of which the Scrambler Rifle, for instance, is known for). Your goal to countering shields is to kill them faster than they can take cover and recover.

I'm fine with that philosophy, I'm just not cool with a shield suit getting over 100hp/s with 2 mods.

2 modules for higher regen means less HP/damage. I'm fine with that. As Aeon said, the shield philosophy is to have a great regen. And the suit we are talking about is the rarest officer suit of the game, not a proto one ^^ It's OP by definition.

I don't have the link, but I believe Aeon made a Ck.0 fit with 115 Hp/s and a 0.7 sec depleted delay. The delay I have no problem with, the amount per second is.

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Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.10.08 12:23:00 - [1] - Quote OH. MY. GOD. I'm gonna come back to dust just to waste the 30 I have in stock. This is the most OP suit I've ever seen. ZERO F*UCKING DELAY. ZERO. Put one proto enrgizer on and you have almost 90 HP/s regen. Rattati suits will cry Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER ! - Sequal Rise
MexXx Dust-Slayer Fatal Absolution 511	Posted - 2015.10.08 12:29:00 - [2] - Quote Wow, that sounds holy. The amarr might start worshipping it.
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix Damage LLC 974	Posted - 2015.10.08 12:30:00 - [3] - Quote Delays fine but the shield rep rate is too high with 2 modules. It's actually insane, imagine if an armour suit could rep at half that rate with 2 modules. Wanna play eve?
Jack Boost Zarena Family 954	Posted - 2015.10.08 12:32:00 - [4] - Quote I wonder what that 'unique' caldari sentinels get now :) Not much time left...
Aeon Amadi 12	Posted - 2015.10.08 12:39:00 - [5] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Delays fine but the shield rep rate is too high with 2 modules. It's actually insane, imagine if an armour suit could rep at half that rate with 2 modules. Bearing in mind that: Armor is all about HP Shields are all about Regen Armor isn't exactly mean to have that high of regen and while it is possible through other means (Triage Hives, Repair Tools) the personal regen rates of Shield suits should not be taken as a grain of salt. There should be fundamental gameplay and design differences between Armor and Shields that are notable immediately as soon as you encounter them. Shields have high regen rates, yes, but they are very vulnerable to high alpha damage (of which the Scrambler Rifle, for instance, is known for). Your goal to countering shields is to kill them faster than they can take cover and recover. Negative Introspection - Aeon's CPM Blog Skype: nomistrav
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix Damage LLC 974	Posted - 2015.10.08 12:47:00 - [6] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Delays fine but the shield rep rate is too high with 2 modules. It's actually insane, imagine if an armour suit could rep at half that rate with 2 modules. Bearing in mind that: Armor is all about HP Shields are all about Regen Armor isn't exactly mean to have that high of regen and while it is possible through other means (Triage Hives, Repair Tools) the personal regen rates of Shield suits should not be taken as a grain of salt. There should be fundamental gameplay and design differences between Armor and Shields that are notable immediately as soon as you encounter them. Shields have high regen rates, yes, but they are very vulnerable to high alpha damage (of which the Scrambler Rifle, for instance, is known for). Your goal to countering shields is to kill them faster than they can take cover and recover. I'm fine with that philosophy, I'm just not cool with a shield suit getting over 100hp/s with 2 mods. Wanna play eve?
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.10.08 12:51:00 - [7] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Delays fine but the shield rep rate is too high with 2 modules. It's actually insane, imagine if an armour suit could rep at half that rate with 2 modules. Bearing in mind that: Armor is all about HP Shields are all about Regen Armor isn't exactly mean to have that high of regen and while it is possible through other means (Triage Hives, Repair Tools) the personal regen rates of Shield suits should not be taken as a grain of salt. There should be fundamental gameplay and design differences between Armor and Shields that are notable immediately as soon as you encounter them. Shields have high regen rates, yes, but they are very vulnerable to high alpha damage (of which the Scrambler Rifle, for instance, is known for). Your goal to countering shields is to kill them faster than they can take cover and recover. I'm fine with that philosophy, I'm just not cool with a shield suit getting over 100hp/s with 2 mods. 2 modules for higher regen means less HP/damage. I'm fine with that. As Aeon said, the shield philosophy is to have a great regen. And the suit we are talking about is the rarest officer suit of the game, not a proto one ^^ It's OP by definition. Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER ! - Sequal Rise
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix Damage LLC 974	Posted - 2015.10.08 12:55:00 - [8] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Delays fine but the shield rep rate is too high with 2 modules. It's actually insane, imagine if an armour suit could rep at half that rate with 2 modules. Bearing in mind that: Armor is all about HP Shields are all about Regen Armor isn't exactly mean to have that high of regen and while it is possible through other means (Triage Hives, Repair Tools) the personal regen rates of Shield suits should not be taken as a grain of salt. There should be fundamental gameplay and design differences between Armor and Shields that are notable immediately as soon as you encounter them. Shields have high regen rates, yes, but they are very vulnerable to high alpha damage (of which the Scrambler Rifle, for instance, is known for). Your goal to countering shields is to kill them faster than they can take cover and recover. I'm fine with that philosophy, I'm just not cool with a shield suit getting over 100hp/s with 2 mods. 2 modules for higher regen means less HP/damage. I'm fine with that. As Aeon said, the shield philosophy is to have a great regen. And the suit we are talking about is the rarest officer suit of the game, not a proto one ^^ It's OP by definition. I don't have the link, but I believe Aeon made a Ck.0 fit with 115 Hp/s and a 0.7 sec depleted delay. The delay I have no problem with, the amount per second is. Wanna play eve?
Aeon Amadi 12	Posted - 2015.10.08 12:56:00 - [9] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Delays fine but the shield rep rate is too high with 2 modules. It's actually insane, imagine if an armour suit could rep at half that rate with 2 modules. Bearing in mind that: Armor is all about HP Shields are all about Regen Armor isn't exactly mean to have that high of regen and while it is possible through other means (Triage Hives, Repair Tools) the personal regen rates of Shield suits should not be taken as a grain of salt. There should be fundamental gameplay and design differences between Armor and Shields that are notable immediately as soon as you encounter them. Shields have high regen rates, yes, but they are very vulnerable to high alpha damage (of which the Scrambler Rifle, for instance, is known for). Your goal to countering shields is to kill them faster than they can take cover and recover. I'm fine with that philosophy, I'm just not cool with a shield suit getting over 100hp/s with 2 mods. 100hp/s that can be interrupted by 1 damage over shield threshold. Negative Introspection - Aeon's CPM Blog Skype: nomistrav
Aeon Amadi 12	Posted - 2015.10.08 12:57:00 - [10] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Sequal's Back wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Delays fine but the shield rep rate is too high with 2 modules. It's actually insane, imagine if an armour suit could rep at half that rate with 2 modules. Bearing in mind that: Armor is all about HP Shields are all about Regen Armor isn't exactly mean to have that high of regen and while it is possible through other means (Triage Hives, Repair Tools) the personal regen rates of Shield suits should not be taken as a grain of salt. There should be fundamental gameplay and design differences between Armor and Shields that are notable immediately as soon as you encounter them. Shields have high regen rates, yes, but they are very vulnerable to high alpha damage (of which the Scrambler Rifle, for instance, is known for). Your goal to countering shields is to kill them faster than they can take cover and recover. I'm fine with that philosophy, I'm just not cool with a shield suit getting over 100hp/s with 2 mods. 2 modules for higher regen means less HP/damage. I'm fine with that. As Aeon said, the shield philosophy is to have a great regen. And the suit we are talking about is the rarest officer suit of the game, not a proto one ^^ It's OP by definition. I don't have the link, but I believe Aeon made a Ck.0 fit with 115 Hp/s and a 0.7 sec depleted delay. The delay I have no problem with, the amount per second is. Yup. Still dies just as quickly as any other suit. Nothing was changed about how fast shield tankers die, but you better make damn sure they don't get away for longer than a second or two otherwise they'll come back with claws and teeth. Which I'm cool with. It takes them making the conscious decision to break away from combat, meaning they aren't putting DPS down range. It's an peculiar, interesting way of increasing TTK when you think about it. Negative Introspection - Aeon's CPM Blog Skype: nomistrav

Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.10.08 13:00:00 - [11] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: I don't have the link, but I believe Aeon made a Ck.0 fit with 115 Hp/s and a 0.7 sec depleted delay. The delay I have no problem with, the amount per second is. Yes, but you lose precious HP for this regen. And as Aeon said, it can be stopped by 1 damage over the treshold which is easy to do and happens all the time. Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER ! - Sequal Rise
Jack Boost Zarena Family 954	Posted - 2015.10.08 13:01:00 - [12] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: 100hp/s that can be interrupted by 1 damage over shield threshold. And this ^^ was reason that about Caldari Sentinels people never says that was OP :) But what now? Can I have more slots/more speed cus rest dropsuit get 'my' bonus? Not much time left...
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 12	Posted - 2015.10.08 13:06:00 - [13] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Delays fine but the shield rep rate is too high with 2 modules. It's actually insane, imagine if an armour suit could rep at half that rate with 2 modules. Bearing in mind that: Armor is all about HP Shields are all about Regen Armor is about how you tank it. There's a reason why the term Passive Armor Tanking and Active Armor tanking exist. In DUST you rep armor tank or Armor stack. Repairing isn't the same HP's level as Caldari but it trades that for repairing under fire. An equal trade off. But you got shields correctly. Caldari are the only ones who rely solely on shields with so it makes sense they'd have a bit of both worlds. Sgt Kirk's Propaganda Youtube Channel
Songs of Seraphim Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 1	Posted - 2015.10.08 14:17:00 - [14] - Quote Give me the stats? I'm gonna be at work for another 10 hours. I have 135 left. ._. Achura Bloodline State Loyalist Death! By Snu-snu!
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.10.08 14:32:00 - [15] - Quote Songs of Seraphim wrote: Give me the stats? I'm gonna be at work for another 10 hours. I have 135 left. ._. Balac's ck.0 All modules are proto 4 shield extenders 1 shield energizer 2 reactive plates \| __ These 2 can be switched for 2 ferros/2reps 2 shield regs \| Weapons and EQ of choice : 731 shield HP 326 armor HP 87,37 Hp/s shield regen 7.50 HP/s armor regen 0.61 delay 0.00 depleted delay With the ferro/rep fit you can have even more speed and armor regen if you're willing to sacrifice an equiment or downgrade a mod to advanced ^^ It's terrifying. Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER ! - Sequal Rise
jerrmy12 kahoalii G0DS AM0NG MEN 1	Posted - 2015.10.08 14:34:00 - [16] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: OH. MY. GOD. I'm gonna come back to dust just to waste the 30 I have in stock. This is the most OP suit I've ever seen. ZERO FUCKING DELAY. ZERO. Put one proto enrgizer on and you have almost 90 HP/s regen. Rattati suits will cry it has 0 depleted, not 0 delay last i checked Closed beta vet. ~~~!_~@*-------THE~!!!)__SUN~!@(J)~((@RISES.~)(@#~!(~)~))(#~))()))))))__!
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.10.08 14:38:00 - [17] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Sequal's Back wrote: OH. MY. GOD. I'm gonna come back to dust just to waste the 30 I have in stock. This is the most OP suit I've ever seen. ZERO F*UCKING DELAY. ZERO. Put one proto enrgizer on and you have almost 90 HP/s regen. Rattati suits will cry it has 0 depleted, not 0 delay last i checked Yop. It's still a delay tho hahaha. 1 sec normal delay is incredible as well. Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER ! - Sequal Rise
4lbert Wesker Standby Retaliation 524	Posted - 2015.10.08 14:39:00 - [18] - Quote Come with that suit near AR and your zero delay won't mater at all. WESKER S.T.A.R.S. is not my corporation!
DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 462	Posted - 2015.10.08 14:47:00 - [19] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Delays fine but the shield rep rate is too high with 2 modules. It's actually insane, imagine if an armour suit could rep at half that rate with 2 modules. Maybe cuz it's the rarest suit? CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF
DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 462	Posted - 2015.10.08 14:48:00 - [20] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: Come with that suit near AR and your zero delay won't mater at all. You realize I can shoot further than you right? You try and get me breh CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF

Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.10.08 15:00:00 - [21] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: Come with that suit near AR and your zero delay won't mater at all. You've played with me, and you know I'm not that stupid ^^ Moreover, it has decent armor and armor regen as well (great with 2 ferros / 2 reps) and AR don't do much to armor.. Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER ! - Sequal Rise
Songs of Seraphim Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 1	Posted - 2015.10.08 16:05:00 - [22] - Quote Wait. Zero shield delays? GOOD LUCK KILLING ME, SCRUBS! MWUAHAHAHA Achura Bloodline State Loyalist Death! By Snu-snu!
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix Damage LLC 974	Posted - 2015.10.08 16:11:00 - [23] - Quote DEATH THE KlD wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Delays fine but the shield rep rate is too high with 2 modules. It's actually insane, imagine if an armour suit could rep at half that rate with 2 modules. Maybe cuz it's the rarest suit? I was talking in general. Aeons fit should be floating around somewhere Wanna play eve?
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command 1	Posted - 2015.10.08 16:15:00 - [24] - Quote Wouldn't the "I've been in cover for a second, I'm almost back to full health"-style be the Minmatar way of doing things? Which is exactly why the Amarr are all about delivering that one fatal blow. Caldari should be more about having comparatively high shield stats that only regenerate after taking cover for a while, which would be the reason why Gallente suit are about closing the distance really quickly while the Caldari recharge in cover and then using their blasters in CQC. Right now Amarr is the counter to Caldari, which is odd.
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.10.08 16:18:00 - [25] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: DEATH THE KlD wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Delays fine but the shield rep rate is too high with 2 modules. It's actually insane, imagine if an armour suit could rep at half that rate with 2 modules. Maybe cuz it's the rarest suit? I was talking in general. Aeons fit should be floating around somewhere Aeon's fit is great for long range, but get close to it and its regen would be completely useless. As we told you before, the suit won't recharge under fire and in 1v1 situation, if you're close with low HP you're dead. A scr shot followed by a few rounds of a Breach SMG and you''re down without being able to use your 100+ regen. It's now a great long-mid range suit that still has big drawbacks. Stop coming back to the high regen, it's not anywhere near OP. Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER ! - Sequal Rise
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 9	Posted - 2015.10.08 16:18:00 - [26] - Quote 0 delays? That means you can just ditch the Regulators and dual tank. *Scouts United* Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.10.08 16:20:00 - [27] - Quote Joel II X wrote: 0 delays? That means you can just ditch the Regulators and dual tank. Exactly. Go 2 reps 2 ferros and you still have 0 depleted and 1 sec normal delay with 20 armor rep/s and 350+ armor. Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER ! - Sequal Rise
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix Damage LLC 974	Posted - 2015.10.08 16:27:00 - [28] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: DEATH THE KlD wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Delays fine but the shield rep rate is too high with 2 modules. It's actually insane, imagine if an armour suit could rep at half that rate with 2 modules. Maybe cuz it's the rarest suit? I was talking in general. Aeons fit should be floating around somewhere Aeon's fit is great for long range, but get close to it and its regen would be completely useless. As we told you before, the suit won't recharge under fire and in 1v1 situation, if you're close with low HP you're dead. A scr shot followed by a few rounds of a Breach SMG and you''re down without being able to use your 100+ regen. It's now a great long-mid range suit that still has big drawbacks. Stop coming back to the high regen, it's not anywhere near OP. The only drawback it has is it can't fit damage mods. Wanna play eve?
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.10.08 16:41:00 - [29] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: The only drawback it has is it can't fit damage mods. It isn't fast, has sh!t amount of stamina, less than 200 armor HP with very bad reps, medium amount of HP (500 is pretty low), its regen is stopped all the time, and yes, it can't fit damage mods. Stop watching only what you want to see. Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER ! - Sequal Rise
NextDark Knight Hellstorm LLC 892	Posted - 2015.10.08 16:47:00 - [30] - Quote Sorry running a suit that rare having to hope a Depleted shield recharge saves me is cutting it really close. Caldari Suit Videos Love Caldari - Since 6/29/2012



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