1. You listed a pc where someone was using a bon's vs morons.

2. You have to run 2 to 3 kin kats to really make the Min assault fast extremely hard to fit with decent tank

3. Not all Min assault users use a Shotguns and if you base a nerf on the Min assault because of Shotguns you're a ******* idiot

4. Min assault is my main suit I have had it since uprising. If you think its so OP spec into it use it and find out yourself.

5. Considering how OP Gal and Cal assaults are going to be after the hotfix you really shouldn't be looking at the min assault.

Not only that but I think he was scanned a grand total of one time the entire match (a scan that failed by the way, indicating it was some moron using a basic or advanced scanner in PC).

Also: min assault was already nerfed pretty hard in the mobility department when stamina regen for their suits was cut across the board. A nerf that I advocated and was well deserved. Right now min assault is very well balanced and amarr assault is the outlier on the OP side (but then it was the outlier before the stam regen nerf anyway), meanwhile gal and cal assaults need various amounts of help.

He was scanned as there were gal logies running around in bravo, 1 of which I know to have pro gal with scans, but for whatever reason the QQ on the forums indicates that being scanned means dying lol!

"Naw bro I can't go forward, I've just been scanned" lol!

Being scanned does not equate to being stopped! I've ran min assault tons, and I definitely never gave two f*cks about being scanned lol! Everybody is scanned in PC! Do you think we all just stopped what we're doing?

Lol!

Except that he wasnt scanned at all in the entire video. If I missed him actually being hit by a successful scan give me a time stamp and let me know. Otherwise you're full of ****.

The team he was against was absolutely terrible. Contrast that with the scans they obviously had going, where they had everyone on point B lit up for the vast majority of the game.

And here you think min assault is good because some guy is playing against a **** team. Well guess what, when the shotgunner never gets scanned and he repeatedly gets to run up behind heavies and their logis while they are perma scanned, hes going to have a field day. Anyone would have a field day.

The fact is if a shotgunner is scanned and the heavies hes pushing up against are ready for him, he'll get wrecked. Not only that by while hes getting shut down by the scan hes incredibly vulnerable to a scout cruising up behind him and 2 shotting him before he can turn around.

And you try and counter this claim with this video? Where the guy isnt scanned a single ******* time and hes toying with a bunch of crappy players and still dying a bunch of times? Get out of here.

Heres a better example from the same person

This is a much more competitive battle right here, with the same team. Random Gunz vs. Fatal Absolution.

You see he still went kill positive but didnt do nearly as good, the enemies are actually awake for this fight, and you can see people like Fusion Commander on the other team who was running a scout + bons and some other guys actually get better scores than him.

Also hes providing commentary on the video which is mildly interesting.

The fact is the Bons is OP and needs to be toned down, but shotgun/min assault is not. Get over it.

Fusion commander runs a tanked Scotsman with a bon's in almost every PC recently lol!

Do you even PC bro?

I could take that "sleep" PC team and clean up so many of you it's comical lol! Done it against "random gunz" and others, and they can varify that I did it with players who hadn't broke 20 mil yet!

Before you waste time pointing out different team levels, know what it is you're talking about!

When you lead a team into battle let me know! o7

TacNet only tells you that enemies are there, if possible.
If you're deducing from the TacNet what those enemies are then you have to also allow yourself for what's called Margin for Error. Just because you're deducing wrong what a unit is between when you "see" him after scanning and you actually see him physically DOES NOT warrant a frame/fit nerf. It doesn't warrant a qq thread either, tbh.

Does no one you PC with use voicecomms to describe enemy unit movements? Wait, let me guess, its a bunch of squeakers calling out, "He ran that way!!" Am I right? "Over there!! He's over there!" "To the right! He went right!!" lol

Please get into PC!

So how do you explain fusion commander with bons/gal scout doing way better than the guy running bons/min assault? How does this prove your point that min assault is OP?

Silver says in the video that its because Fusion can prey on the bad people on his team, which Im sure is partially true, but that narrative kind of falls down when you realize fusion commander kills him one on one quite a few times in that video.

And I dont care how good that sleeping team could do with a good FC, fact is in that particular battle they played like trash.

Framerate fix when?

Everyone has their tough ones.... but I've seen more vids of DEATH CARD, than uh.... whoever that is you're in there, on vids not making excuses and putting in work! Must be nice to know everything from the bench....

In TOP? ..... Yeah, you're right lol!

And yes you're right about the tacnet 100% which is what I thought I typed? That was exactly my point, but the tears in the forums suggest scanners are a plague.... *shrugs*

You're discription of comms is funny.... I've only had the pleasure of experiencing it out of a few that I had to teach.... somebodies gotta do it right?

My point about the speed has been made already, and I think you guys got the jist about the min assault/scout comparison as well. I appreciate your point of views on the subject, and you've actually helped me get closer to my point than you've realized!

We've covered more than one issue, and a number of points here about different subjects! I've learned alot about individuals and their preferences as well! The abundant use of the suit will eventually earn it's own future tweaks regardless, and pointing out an opinion isn't a crime last I checked... *shrugs*

As for those wanting to bash players knowing full well every PC team they may have bench rode on has been top tier, and they've never been close to leading a team or playing on a team of any skill level and won without big names....

Please get into PC!

I'd love to see the team you built go up against the like of FA, RG, CA, SOG, Prima, PE(Pure evil and planet express), OH, NF, EB, Glory, KEQ, and man I've fought alot of teams lol! Didn't even touch the euro and south American teams! You know what's great about them all! They don't throw dirt from the sideline! Like so many others with their canned excuses about the game, and everything else they come up with?!

Until next subject guys o7

Avoid the point and make personal attacks, looks like your debate ready with those tactics.

Im not the best around but Ill put my abilities up against any player and be comfortable with the results, but that doesnt really matter regarding the question above I gave you about Gal Scout vs. Min Assault, why is it that the guy using the Gal Scout did significantly better than the guy using the Min Assault?

A little all over the place but thats fine. Good Luck, Have Fun and if you ever need to know where my PC experience is based at-

http://dustboard.com/global

o7

Statically in those encounters it's a known fact that teams want min assault to take, counter scouts, and hold the city! You specifically searched for a known anomaly in fusion commander lol! I could go show you about 20 scouts that could do the same thing lol! I'm not saying I absolutely can not kill them, but I am saying the min assault is CLEARLY better than the scout of any race at the role, specifically in close quarters!

This isn't being denied by any of you, just debated?! Which has already confirmed my point. One of the most critical points of any PC, since you don't know, is initial contact! This is where the min assault is crushing scouts to the point that there are teams just running in 6 min assaults deep, not trying to get there 1st, but to simply kill the scouts that did and counter hack.

Fusion commander has been running slayer scout since day lol! Is that your one comparison? That's like me going to get a vid of Cyrius Li Moody and showing you how heavies do bad against min scout in it's OP hay day lol! Dude slaughtered entire squads of heavies and logis, but I'm going to use it to prove that gal heavy is fine in comparison to amarr heavy?!

Really?!

Ask yourself, are you helping the community get closer to greater balance in roles, or just helping yourself in the pubs?

I could've easily stayed min and amarr assault to pad my kd like so many others, but instead, like so many others, I saw how unbalanced they were. Especially the amarr assault, and have been advocating for better balance. Don't confuse balance with advantage! Alot of you do! The suit's should all have advantages and disadvantages!

What I'm talking about is the clear fact that the min assaults disadvantage, low ehp, is the one disadvantage that means nothing to them as they slay just fine ehp be d*mned!

Show me where low ehp has stopped them, and also show me another disadvantage? I can't find any, and they are capable of taking on any suit in tank, speed, Ewar, firepower, and so many others! Not just flat out, but it can get an advantage in one way or another on every suit in the game, and you can't tell me every other suit can do that!

It's specific advantage over scouts is shield tank, and not matching speed, but enough to make the scout naked if it wants to outrun a min assault. While the min assault is shielded to it's ears in enough shield to withstand multiple attackers of different types!