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benandjerrys
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.27 00:54:00 -
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http://evenews24.com/2015/09/24/announcing-the-amarr-championships/
Took a break and considered committing again until I read this. With no mention of the Dust 514 community I refuse to play either game any longer. We are utterly alienated from the larger playerbase in this and the Citadels that will replace the pos bonuses no one really uses will be the complete divorce altogether. Many in both communities agree sov should end on the ground. To the current Dev team good job with doing so much but yes the Lack of funding, and lack of a solid answer to the next gen... I understand that ya gotta pay the bills but no one likes it. To the community you sprung out in the NPC war in the recent Amarr event was nice but of little significance. Many here are awesome and I will always value our friendships and rivalry.
Big CCP has spoken and said we aren't important.
6 years of being a loyal customer. July 29th 2012 I bought a ps3 just to activate my closed beta invite. Hundreds of dollars spent.
CCP you no longer deserve my money.
Tl;Dr leaving due to Big CCP not our devs or the community. Say something revalent without derailing the tread and I'll hook you up with isk/loot if I like it.
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Radiant Pancake3
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Posted - 2015.09.27 00:55:00 -
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Nuuu i'll miss you... You were always so interesting...
I sad nao.
Learned the ways of N4g from Alcina's mom
Saw Alcina in a dress. I need to rethink my life.
Min Loyalist.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
7
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Posted - 2015.09.27 01:05:00 -
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I haven't expected much of this game for a while now and tbh haven't for some time. I would say "I hate to say it" but I really don't I'm honestly just slowly waiting to wake up one day and seeing rage post about how CCP "decided" to not fund DUST anymore.
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Asad Thahab-Jabal
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.09.27 01:06:00 -
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CCP has an important message for you.
Ripley Riley is on safari until Oct 9th. I will represent him until he returns.
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XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.09.27 01:08:00 -
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I wouldn't go just yet. I too have spent hundreds of dollars on this game and thousands of hours as well, I even went so far as to give my money away and start biomassing. But then I thought about the everything I gambled on this game, my real life money and time. I'm not going to throw away my investment just yet, and I suggest you don't either.
Take a break if you must but don't count Dust 514 out of the equation just yet. CCP is working on something, I can't tell you what, but I know deep down they are working on something that will change the future of Dust 514 and the fps game industry.
We're not dead yet.
See you star side mercenary.
Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament.
Go Go Power Rangers!
R.I.P MAG.
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Asad Thahab-Jabal
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.09.27 01:10:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:I wouldn't go just yet. I too have spent hundreds of dollars on this game and thousands of hours as well, I even went so far as to give my money away and start biomassing. But then I thought about the everything I gambled on this game, my real life money and time. I'm not going to throw away my investment just yet, and I suggest you don't either.. You should probably look up the Sunk Costs Fallacy.
"In economics, a sunk cost is any past cost that has already been paid and cannot be recovered. For example, a business may have invested a million dollars into new hardware. This money is now gone and cannot be recovered, so it shouldnGÇÖt figure into the businessGÇÖs decision making process.
Or, letGÇÖs say you buy tickets to a concert. On the day of the event, you catch a cold. Even though you are sick, you decide to go to the concert because otherwise GÇ£you would have wasted your moneyGÇ¥.
Boom! You just fell for the sunk cost fallacy.
Sure, you spent the money already. But you canGÇÖt get it back. If you arenGÇÖt going to have a good time at the concert, you only make your life worse by going."
Ripley Riley is on safari until Oct 9th. I will represent him until he returns.
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benandjerrys
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.27 01:13:00 -
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Well rl reasons I had to break (need games with a pause button) if this concept is re incarna ted Then yea I will be back. *starts looking for Gunjack in app store*
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benandjerrys
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Posted - 2015.09.27 01:18:00 -
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Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:I wouldn't go just yet. I too have spent hundreds of dollars on this game and thousands of hours as well, I even went so far as to give my money away and start biomassing. But then I thought about the everything I gambled on this game, my real life money and time. I'm not going to throw away my investment just yet, and I suggest you don't either.. You should probably look up the Sunk Costs Fallacy. "In economics, a sunk cost is any past cost that has already been paid and cannot be recovered. For example, a business may have invested a million dollars into new hardware. This money is now gone and cannot be recovered, so it shouldnGÇÖt figure into the businessGÇÖs decision making process. Or, letGÇÖs say you buy tickets to a concert. On the day of the event, you catch a cold. Even though you are sick, you decide to go to the concert because otherwise GÇ£you would have wasted your moneyGÇ¥. Boom! You just fell for the sunk cost fallacy. Sure, you spent the money already. But you canGÇÖt get it back. If you arenGÇÖt going to have a good time at the concert, you only make your life worse by going." You nailed it.
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XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.09.27 01:22:00 -
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Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:I wouldn't go just yet. I too have spent hundreds of dollars on this game and thousands of hours as well, I even went so far as to give my money away and start biomassing. But then I thought about the everything I gambled on this game, my real life money and time. I'm not going to throw away my investment just yet, and I suggest you don't either.. You should probably look up the Sunk Costs Fallacy. "In economics, a sunk cost is any past cost that has already been paid and cannot be recovered. For example, a business may have invested a million dollars into new hardware. This money is now gone and cannot be recovered, so it shouldnGÇÖt figure into the businessGÇÖs decision making process. Or, letGÇÖs say you buy tickets to a concert. On the day of the event, you catch a cold. Even though you are sick, you decide to go to the concert because otherwise GÇ£you would have wasted your moneyGÇ¥. Boom! You just fell for the sunk cost fallacy. Sure, you spent the money already. But you canGÇÖt get it back. If you arenGÇÖt going to have a good time at the concert, you only make your life worse by going." Well I feel stupid now........
Still, I'm here to stay and I will stay here if the server gets shut down. I love this game and everything it stands for and I can not believe this game will not have a future.
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Murder Medic
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.09.27 01:25:00 -
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As someone who can't stand the mismanagement of this game, just don't biomass. I strongly doubt CCP is investing in this games future, as they're currently gambling their time and resources on Valk and mobile games. However, you never know.
Better to have an account you never use until this game bites the dust then to biomass and have CCP actually do their jobs and bring the game up to speed. |
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Asad Thahab-Jabal
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.09.27 01:28:00 -
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CCP has no plans for Dust or a port, but yeah, Murder Medic is right... Don't biomass.
Ripley Riley is on safari until Oct 9th. I will represent him until he returns.
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VAHZZ
RabbitGang 13 COILS
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Posted - 2015.09.27 01:28:00 -
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Biomassing? I hope so.
Co-Founder of RabbitGang
"VAHZZ is Forum Jesus" - GJR
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benandjerrys
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.27 01:33:00 -
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Not biomassing. Just a big ole giveaway for those not derailing.
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MrShooter01
Ustio Mercenary Squadron
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Posted - 2015.09.27 01:38:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:I haven't expected much of this game for a while now and tbh haven't for some time. I would say "I hate to say it" but I really don't I'm honestly just slowly waiting to wake up one day and seeing rage post about how CCP "decided" to not fund DUST anymore.
The worst part for me is where I've upgraded my PC to be VR ready knowing I'm just going to go through all of this all over again with Valkyrie
I think the only reason I hang around is this game scratches the itch that Battlefield 2142 used to satisfy, with more weapons and items and better EOL support from the developers
"But shooter, you have a PC. Why not just download and play BF2142 again?"
I don't... I don't know. |
Ralis Sharn
Horizons' Edge No Context
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Posted - 2015.09.27 01:41:00 -
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Hate to see another long term player leave. I enjoyed reading your posts and hope to see you back someday. o7
Dust player since July 2012
Alt: Sylvan Snow
Faction: Gallente
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.09.27 01:42:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:I haven't expected much of this game for a while now and tbh haven't for some time. I would say "I hate to say it" but I really don't I'm honestly just slowly waiting to wake up one day and seeing rage post about how CCP "decided" to not fund DUST anymore. The worst part for me is where I've upgraded my PC to be VR ready knowing I'm just going to go through all of this all over again with Valkyrie I think the only reason I hang around is this game scratches the itch that Battlefield 2142 used to satisfy, with more weapons and items and better EOL support from the developers "But shooter, you have a PC. Why not just download and play BF2142 again?" I don't... I don't know. You should mess around with Tribes Ascend had way to many hours of fun on that game.
"Remember to Ratatat that ass" ~ The Internet
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Asad Thahab-Jabal
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.09.27 01:52:00 -
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benandjerrys wrote:Not biomassing. Just a big ole giveaway for those not derailing. Send donations to my patron, Ripley Riley.
Ripley Riley is on safari until Oct 9th. I will represent him until he returns.
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benandjerrys
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.27 01:53:00 -
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To those in the Vader's Fist concept during the Amarr events happening thanks for your vision in the Reclamation Proclamation.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ld1nTIH-hwM
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XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.09.27 01:55:00 -
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I still get chills when I watch that.
Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
9
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Posted - 2015.09.27 02:24:00 -
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I will miss your ice cream goodness o7
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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BARAGAMOS
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.09.27 02:49:00 -
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Just hang around till the garbage that is gunjack flops, and maybe a real large release game my look enticing to CCP. Hopefully its a rebuild of DUST.
Truthfully though I am pretty sure you are the smartest one among us if you walk away. |
Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.09.27 02:53:00 -
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BARAGAMOS wrote:Just hang around till the garbage that is gunjack flops, and maybe a real large release game my look enticing to CCP. Hopefully its a rebuild of DUST.
Truthfully though I am pretty sure you are the smartest one among us if you walk away. Uh, how can Gunjack flop? It's a cellphone game. Those things pretty much pay for themselves within the first week or so.
Besides, it's not like it's an online game that gets updates or anything like that. It's just a one-off made by some guys at the studio in their free time.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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benandjerrys
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.27 05:22:00 -
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Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote:benandjerrys wrote:Not biomassing. Just a big ole giveaway for those not derailing. Send donations to my patron, Ripley Riley.
After seeing the shield ideas a couple months ago in biomassed channel I probably will out of respect for the work you tried to push.
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maybe deadcatz
Horizons' Edge No Context
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Posted - 2015.09.27 05:52:00 -
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Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is? Insanity is doing the exact... same f*cking thing... over and over again expecting... sh*t to change... -vaas,far cry 3.
But it does change. It will change. Because we are what we are. We expect things. We want things. We must have them. We have the will. The resources.
Are we not immortal mercenaries? Bound only by the limits of our own conscience? The human soul reaching ever for the truth?* *(metroid fusion,samus mission end reflection)
Dust 514:Plasma is magic.
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Avallo Kantor
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Posted - 2015.09.27 06:08:00 -
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I really don't get the reason you are upset. A tournament for EVE online is focused on EVE online?
Look EVE online has its events and DUST has its events, but they share a storyline. The Amarr event we JUST had was focused around the same lore events that the later Amarr tournament is going to focus on.
Meanwhile EVE players as a whole are not getting any player-wide gifts / items for the event of the empress dying. They get to experience the story line in space, but we have to accept that DUST in it's current form has no real ability to let players run the story segment of a singular event without it being a much larger "war".
We also have no idea if there -will- be anything relating DUST side once the tournament comes around, or if there will be other events to compare that we get. We may get something as well, just not a tournament that requires months of prep time.
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Asad Thahab-Jabal
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.09.27 06:28:00 -
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benandjerrys wrote:After seeing the shield ideas a couple months ago in biomassed channel I probably will out of respect for the work you tried to push. Ah, well Ripley cannot take all of the credit for that. Breakin Stuff and Cat Merc also greatly contributed. It is my sincerest hope that we may see the shield modules that were proposed.
If you want my unsolicited advice on this...
- Don't biomass. I can't stress this enough. Even if CCP doesn't get around to porting Dust for years, you don't want to lose the SP and name you have created for yourself.
- Uninstalling isn't a bad idea if Dust put a bad taste in your mouth. You don't want to play a game that you don't enjoy playing. You definitely should not want to play a game without a future.
- Keep in touch on the forums, on /r/Dust514, and the Dust twitter accounts. If nothing else you can see what is up with the community every now and then.
- Maybe reinstall in a few patches just to see what has changed. Warlords 1.4 or 1.5 would probably be a good time to rejoin Dust. With the current development time tables that would be around June 2016.
Ripley Riley is on safari until Oct 9th. I will represent him until he returns.
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Jadek Menaheim
1nner.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.09.27 07:17:00 -
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Sorry to hear that. As much skepticism I had for what you were trying to accomplish with Vader's Fist and One Universe/One War you were fighting a good fight to strengthen the development of both communities. It's a disappointment that this call to at least recognize the Dust community in a meaningful way 'appears' to be falling on deaf ears.
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy No Context
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Posted - 2015.09.27 07:22:00 -
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Inb4 CCP announces tourney for DUST
That would be something eh?
I am the Anti-FoTM
Fear my Cal Assault and Amarr Scout!
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Jadek Menaheim
1nner.Heaven
7
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Posted - 2015.09.27 07:24:00 -
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Hosted once again by Urgent Fury!
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ZED Regent
RabbitGang 13 COILS
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Posted - 2015.09.27 07:49:00 -
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Just curious...
I see you lost your VF tag....
What happened?
eh....eh.... french flies.... eh...eh eh....
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VAHZZ
RabbitGang 13 COILS
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Posted - 2015.09.27 07:53:00 -
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ZED Regent wrote: Just curious...
I see you lost your VF tag....
What happened?
I guess he got tired of stabbing people in the back.
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DiablosMajora
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Posted - 2015.09.27 08:03:00 -
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Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:I wouldn't go just yet. I too have spent hundreds of dollars on this game and thousands of hours as well, I even went so far as to give my money away and start biomassing. But then I thought about the everything I gambled on this game, my real life money and time. I'm not going to throw away my investment just yet, and I suggest you don't either.. You should probably look up the Sunk Costs Fallacy. "In economics, a sunk cost is any past cost that has already been paid and cannot be recovered. For example, a business may have invested a million dollars into new hardware. This money is now gone and cannot be recovered, so it shouldnGÇÖt figure into the businessGÇÖs decision making process. Or, letGÇÖs say you buy tickets to a concert. On the day of the event, you catch a cold. Even though you are sick, you decide to go to the concert because otherwise GÇ£you would have wasted your moneyGÇ¥. Boom! You just fell for the sunk cost fallacy. Sure, you spent the money already. But you canGÇÖt get it back. If you arenGÇÖt going to have a good time at the concert, you only make your life worse by going." As someone in finance, I just have to say that sunk costs are ultimately BS. Don't make me start going off on cashflows, NPVs, bookvalue, marketvalue, and depreciation of those concert tickets.
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benandjerrys
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.27 13:19:00 -
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ZED Regent wrote: Just curious...
I see you lost your VF tag....
What happened?
Inactivity lol. Next time I'm online I'm resubmitting an app.
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benandjerrys
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Posted - 2015.09.27 13:20:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:ZED Regent wrote: Just curious...
I see you lost your VF tag....
What happened?
I guess he got tired of stabbing people in the back. Uh... Vahzz what exactly did I do to you? Again no derails please. My numerous accounts on EvE are unsubscribed not Biomassed. My loot and isk was hard earned and giving it to someone who deserves it.
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
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Posted - 2015.09.27 13:49:00 -
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Quite honestly I can't argue against your points OP. But in the event you are wrong and we do get a port just roll in the side of caution and keep your Guns and ISK.
\0/
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4
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Posted - 2015.09.27 14:12:00 -
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It turned out that dust is "just" a shooter which take place in New Eden universe with no real connection to the rest of the universe.
Everything went wrong and CCP had to simplify the game, imagine if they told us from the start that's a shooter based in NE universe, i'm sure that nobody would have complained about it, but they told it was a MMO FPS and expectation raised.
Lies have short legs, VW docet.
Regressed to blueberry level.
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axis alpha
ScReWeD uP InC
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Posted - 2015.09.27 14:36:00 -
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Two years of being slapped in the face at eve fest I kinda knew this already. It sucks.
But for me there has got to be something in the works.... maybe not soon. Maybe when we least expect it.
I hope. hope. Hope.
Hullaballo and howdy doo! Musty prawns, and Timbucktu.
Yeltsibee and hibbertyhoo
Kick 'em in the dishpan. Hoo hoo hoo!
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benandjerrys
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.27 14:56:00 -
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Avallo Kantor wrote:I really don't get the reason you are upset. A tournament for EVE online is focused on EVE online?
Look EVE online has its events and DUST has its events, but they share a storyline. The Amarr event we just had was focused around the same lore events that the later Amarr tournament is going to focus on.
Meanwhile EVE players as a whole are not getting any player-wide gifts / items for the event of the empress dying. They get to experience the story line in space, but we have to accept that DUST in it's current form has no real ability to let players run the story segment of a singular event without it being a much larger "war".
We also have no idea if there -will- be anything relating DUST side once the tournament comes around, or if there will be other events to compare that we get. We may get something as well, just not a tournament that requires months of prep time.
The dev team that headed up lore for Dust stopped producing content 2 years ago. Vaders-fist led a resurgence to "reclaim" Molden Heath a couple months ago. Sarum died and our community was included somewhat. Didn't matter if we won or lost 100% just lobbying lore was important in an attempt to bring back cross content. I would highly recommend players go to the channel
Imperial OOC
or talk with guys like True Adamance or Thal Vadam.
Items are awarded in EvE for significant events like game anniversaries or participation in Alliance tournaments. The EvE news 24 announcement is the OFFICIAL guidelines. Let's just face it hillmar does not want an fps in eves future and is now chasing another incarna Pipedream (Valkyrie) that I refuse to be apart of any longer.
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Murder Medic
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Posted - 2015.09.27 15:09:00 -
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benandjerrys wrote: Let's just face it hillmar does not want an fps in eves future and is now chasing another incarna Pipedream (Valkyrie) that I refuse to be apart of any longer.
Preach!
I think the most telling thing about Valkyrie is that it's not directly connected to EVE. It's a standalone thing in the EVE universe. It seems like CCP has really given up on bringing a more connected experience to New Eden. |
benandjerrys
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.27 17:02:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Sorry to hear that. As much skepticism I had for what you were trying to accomplish with Vader's Fist and One Universe/One War you were fighting a good fight to strengthen the development of both communities. It's a disappointment that this call to at least recognize the Dust community in a meaningful way 'appears' to be falling on deaf ears.
And I hope it doesn't the skin event felt alot like the original Drifters vs Amarr concept idea I had promoted first but I now think that killing off Dust with Drifters would put an end to how it was started lore wise in the first place. EvE killed Sarum who basically is the Mom of Dust.
It's bittersweet leaving. If we had some semblance of the meta coordination the communities (EvE included) back in 2013 the Rouge Wedding could of been seen in a different light. Let's face it the Goon vs CVA conflict killed Sarum in CCPs new take on players influencing the games story mode but I'd rather root against John Cena with my 8 year old son. That's enough soap opera for me now.
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Asad Thahab-Jabal
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.09.27 17:07:00 -
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DiablosMajora wrote:As someone in finance, I just have to say that sunk costs are ultimately BS. Don't make me start going off on cashflows, NPVs, bookvalue, marketvalue, and depreciation of those concert tickets. And if we were talking about a corporation then you would probably be on the right track.
But in this context we are talking about a person and their perceived value of giving CCP their money. So many players have hung around Dust 514 because they gave CCP hundreds of dollars; they then feel as though they cannot leave Dust because it would present a loss.
Real talk: you don't owe Dust 514 anything. I don't care if you have spent $10 or $10,000, if you have stopped having fun and disappointed with the complete lack of communication from CCP then just walk away.
Ripley Riley is on safari until Oct 9th. I will represent him until he returns.
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DiablosMajora
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Posted - 2015.09.27 17:39:00 -
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Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote:DiablosMajora wrote:As someone in finance, I just have to say that sunk costs are ultimately BS. Don't make me start going off on cashflows, NPVs, bookvalue, marketvalue, and depreciation of those concert tickets. And if we were talking about a corporation then you would probably be on the right track. But in this context we are talking about a person and their perceived value of giving CCP their money. So many players have hung around Dust 514 because they had given CCP hundreds of dollars; they then feel as though they cannot leave Dust because it would present a loss. Real talk: you don't owe Dust 514 anything. I don't care if you have spent $10 or $10,000, if you have stopped having fun and disappointed with the complete lack of communication from CCP then just walk away. Perceived value we are talking about indeed. And as such, we are discussing the utility derived from whatever monetary or time investment a person makes into Dust or it's perceived value. I haven't spent money on the game in quite some time, let alone played it in months, but I still derive utility from lurking the forums and seeing what is updated from time to time. I perceive it to be more valuable, in the long run, than other games, so here I am without a biomassed character. Others may not see it as such and they can leave on a whim or biomass, but that may not be a smart or rational choice to make given the future is ultimately always uncertain.
TLDR: don't burn bridges and get your dopamine fixes
Prepare your angus
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2015.09.27 18:15:00 -
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Lol, EVE has always been a game that rejects 90% of its player base. That's why they can never raise their customer base very much and most players are just passing through. Only the diehard swampass nerdcorps stick to that game for any length of time.
Anybody that already has a first life doesn't need a game that is based on a second life.
Seriously, the people like the Mittani that get famous and a lot of gamers look up to is just pathetic in my eyes. How in the world can you put so much time into a video game to get to the point these guys do? It's a sickness. I feel for their families. I spent only one eighth the time on EVE and it was enough to begin effecting my family life.
Also, thisGǪ
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VbYNLmtAMAw
As is mentioned on posts for that youtube video, the EVE community is toxic. The game promotes that behavior to its detriment and this game was becoming just as toxic right up to the point it got cancelled and all the jerkwads either left or no longer had any real reason to worry about anything.
So, yeah. You and I are counted out. Real encouraging isn't it!
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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benandjerrys
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.27 19:03:00 -
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I'm not leaving due to "sandbox" politics if a player steals from me fine! I deserved it. When the company that facilitates this does though thru its apathy and delivery of a poor product... (Mind you if we had another 10 ratattis then it wouldnt)Let me sum this up. It's a product outsourced by china a lag leaden pos on a dead console after this holiday season. A good old fashioned...
Scam.
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7th Son 7
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Posted - 2015.09.27 19:29:00 -
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benandjerrys wrote:I'm not leaving due to "sandbox" politics if a player steals from me fine! I deserved it. When the company that facilitates this does though thru its apathy and delivery of a poor product... (Mind you if we had another 10 ratattis then it wouldnt)Let me sum this up. It's a product outsourced by china a lag leaden pos on a dead console after this holiday season. A good old fashioned...
Scam.
Buy Aurum Today!, I feel you, I hit that wall myself recently. Performance of the game gets thrown to the wayside but there's something new to buy in the market every other day, it's bs man. Let's not forget that CCP completely shut down talking about Legion. I was taught that company's wanted loyal customers but the way CCP is handling this game seems like they just want money because Valkyrie was an expensive game to make. Regardless I enjoy and love the players here (most of you anyway,lol), but not CCP and the way they are currently going about things.
Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.09.28 00:42:00 -
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DUST's theme song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynx26LJ1YC4
Ripley Riley:
> Post Hotfix Foxour Gallente Assault:
> DakkadakkadakkadakkaFREEDOMdakkadakka
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benandjerrys
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.28 01:54:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Lol, EVE has always been a game that rejects 90% of its player base. That's why they can never raise their customer base very much and most players are just passing through. Only the diehard swampass nerdcorps stick to that game for any length of time. Anybody that already has a first life doesn't need a game that is based on a second life. Seriously, the people like the Mittani that get famous and a lot of gamers look up to is just pathetic in my eyes. How in the world can you put so much time into a video game to get to the point these guys do? It's a sickness. I feel for their families. I spent only one eighth the time on EVE and it was enough to begin effecting my family life. Also, thisGǪ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VbYNLmtAMAwAs is mentioned on posts for that youtube video, the EVE community is toxic. The game promotes that behavior to its detriment and this game was becoming just as toxic right up to the point it got cancelled and all the jerkwads either left or no longer had any real reason to worry about anything. So, yeah. You and I are counted out. Real encouraging isn't it!
It is supposed to be an absolute "simulation of anarchy" now some people may take this too seriously but actually having consequences for your actions (some months long mistakes) appealed to me the end game only reached by risking trusting others never grows old but the execs destroyed this version.
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KGB Sleep
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Posted - 2015.09.28 02:04:00 -
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Hey you can play both for free. eve let's you earn plex, and just resist buying Aur for Dust. Go dormant for awhile until the next thing. I'm sure you can still make appearances on the podcasts as well. Good luck.
Because beer, that's why.
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benandjerrys
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Posted - 2015.09.28 02:04:00 -
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Lmao cat
I think this is more fitting
What leaving should of been like: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WzNVmZfNoa8
What was reality: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RxPZh4AnWyk
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137H4RGIC
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Posted - 2015.09.28 03:59:00 -
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You know, you could host your own tournament in their favor. CCP is big on community events. While its not a big shiny thing that the EVE Devs are offering, at least you could hold a big prize to the winning team. Or something. I'm sure tournament isn't something hard to come up with. And it would shake the latter, as it were, to let the guys higher up know that we're still here.
Or Even better....
In defiance. Start holding public executions of all Amarrian DUST Mercenaries, in protest that those who fight with guns in their hands will never be forgotten. Because we fight where it counts.
Watching from the shadows. Always there, yet never seen.
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benandjerrys
Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.09.28 13:14:00 -
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137H4RGIC wrote:You know, you could host your own tournament in their favor. CCP is big on community events. While its not a big shiny thing that the EVE Devs are offering, at least you could hold a big prize to the winning team. Or something. I'm sure tournament isn't something hard to come up with. And it would shake the latter, as it were, to let the guys higher up know that we're still here.
Or Even better....
In defiance. Start holding public executions of all Amarrian DUST Mercenaries, in protest that those who fight with guns in their hands will never be forgotten. Because we fight where it counts.
Already posted this here but bears repeating in response to 134h4rgic.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ld1nTIH-hwM
Maybe that and the episode 65 of biomassed
http://biomassed.net/2015/08/03/episode-65-loredec/
Inspired the Amarr event but who really knows. I do like where that idea you had is going but its not worth the time if the footwork isn't made by not one but a whole group of people... But I think that's the last bit of interactive lore this community will ever get. It's a waste really. Tony Gonzalez did such a great job with Templar One and all
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=55512
Then again we should of seen this coming even prior to 5/14/2013 since EvE and Tony went their separate ways after.
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Posted - 2015.09.28 13:25:00 -
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I has crowbar, will travel?
You need?
Port? shakes head
Anybody have spare tickets for the nope train going to fuckthatshitsville?
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137H4RGIC
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.09.28 14:40:00 -
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Hey, nice video!
Watching from the shadows. Always there, yet never seen.
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benandjerrys
Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.09.28 15:22:00 -
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137H4RGIC wrote:Hey, nice video!
I wrote the text mopp did the audio visual Vader's provided the input/content.
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TIGER SHARK1501
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Posted - 2015.09.28 20:05:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:I wouldn't go just yet. I too have spent hundreds of dollars on this game and thousands of hours as well, I even went so far as to give my money away and start biomassing. But then I thought about the everything I gambled on this game, my real life money and time. I'm not going to throw away my investment just yet, and I suggest you don't either.
Take a break if you must but don't count Dust 514 out of the equation just yet. CCP is working on something, I can't tell you what, but I know deep down they are working on something that will change the future of Dust 514 and the fps game industry.
We're not dead yet.
See you star side mercenary. Agreed! Even if there is a port or reboot of any sort down the road if you biomass you've got nothing. Granted we've put time and money into the game for fun each of our characters is special. I like the weapons, skins, and skills that I've gone for.
I'm sure CCP is doing something but as an outsider it seems like they have fewer resources than at the start and are doing the best with what they've got.
Like BlazikenxX said if your feeling burnt out just take a break. I've been playing MGS ground zeroes before I start the phantom pain. I'll still play dust but we all need mini breaks. |
benandjerrys
Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.09.29 01:10:00 -
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It's more of a wait and see type of thing been logging on to give out loot. Bons and kubos PLC was given out last night, bout 20 each.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
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Posted - 2015.09.29 04:27:00 -
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TIGER SHARK1501 wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:I wouldn't go just yet. I too have spent hundreds of dollars on this game and thousands of hours as well, I even went so far as to give my money away and start biomassing. But then I thought about the everything I gambled on this game, my real life money and time. I'm not going to throw away my investment just yet, and I suggest you don't either.
Take a break if you must but don't count Dust 514 out of the equation just yet. CCP is working on something, I can't tell you what, but I know deep down they are working on something that will change the future of Dust 514 and the fps game industry.
We're not dead yet.
See you star side mercenary. Agreed! Even if there is a port or reboot of any sort down the road if you biomass you've got nothing. Granted we've put time and money into the game for fun each of our characters is special. I like the weapons, skins, and skills that I've gone for. I'm sure CCP is doing something but as an outsider it seems like they have fewer resources than at the start and are doing the best with what they've got. Like BlazikenxX said if your feeling burnt out just take a break. I've been playing MGS ground zeroes before I start the phantom pain. I'll still play dust but we all need mini breaks.
A great refresher is to either find some kids or have your kids play this game. You'll laugh at how big a lol this game is. My son goes into a match and says, "What am I supposed to do?"
I tell him, "See that red letter A? You have to get to that and hack it."
He says, "Through all those red guys?"
Yep.
Then he says, "Heck with that" and proceeds to screw around by just running and shooting and exploring.
And people wonder why players give up and/or leave gamesGǪ
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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benandjerrys
Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.09.29 16:17:00 -
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My kids HAAAATE this game
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.29 16:22:00 -
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Ralis Sharn wrote:Hate to see another long term player leave. I enjoyed reading your posts and hope to see you back someday. o7
They leave. They cry. They whine. They yearn for attention. "I've been a customer for X amount of years". Seriously bro, if you didn't leave after Rogue Wedding, you're dedicated until the PS3 explodes.
Stop the pity party
Leave without words
Group hugs are fantastically lame
benandjerrys done this before...like Cuse Town, he will cry, sober up and then return to play.
They always come back. Many left without a word said and they never returned
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.09.29 16:28:00 -
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benandjerrys wrote:It's more of a wait and see type of thing been logging on to give out loot. Bons and kubos PLC was given out last night, bout 20 each. I will say that you're far less likely to have people ***** about yet another departure thread this way. Everyone loves free stuff.
I honestly do understand where you're coming from as well. I just made a thread about the newest Scope News Report that just made me bitter about the 2013 FanFest presentation we all remember.
I'm just going to keep doing my daily logins and Warbarge claims without actually playing for the time being. At least that way I'm getting the maximum possible amount of Passive SP gain so if the game does migrate, I'll have made some progress.
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Asad Thahab-Jabal
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.09.29 16:32:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:I'm just going to keep doing my daily logins and Warbarge claims without actually playing for the time being. At least that way I'm getting the maximum possible amount of Passive SP gain so if the game does migrate, I'll have made some progress. Ladies and gentlemen, the mantra of the Dust playerbase.
Real talk, I wish I knew the percentage of people who just login daily for warbarge junk and SP/AUR.
Ripley Riley is on safari until Oct 9th. I will represent him until he returns.
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
NECROM0NGERS
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Posted - 2015.09.29 16:50:00 -
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benandjerrys wrote:http://evenews24.com/2015/09/24/announcing-the-amarr-championships/
Took a break and considered committing again until I read this. With no mention of the Dust 514 community I refuse to play either game any longer. We are utterly alienated from the larger playerbase in this and the Citadels that will replace the pos bonuses no one really uses will be the complete divorce altogether. Many in both communities agree sov should end on the ground. To the current Dev team good job with doing so much but yes the Lack of funding, and lack of a solid answer to the next gen... I understand that ya gotta pay the bills but no one likes it. To the community you sprung out in the NPC war in the recent Amarr event was nice but of little significance. Many here are awesome and I will always value our friendships and rivalry.
Big CCP has spoken and said we aren't important.
6 years of being a loyal customer. July 29th 2012 I bought a ps3 just to activate my closed beta invite. Hundreds of dollars spent.
CCP you no longer deserve my money.
Tl;Dr leaving due to Big CCP not our devs or the community. Say something revalent without derailing the tread and I'll hook you up with isk/loot if I like it.
im sooo sorry to see you go ben ive seen you round for about 2 3 years now and your right ccp doesnt deserve our money anymore frankly kinda of wished eve would burn over night so they feel as bad as we do
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benandjerrys
Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.09.29 19:24:00 -
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Haven't even logged in their to update skill queue been empty for 2 weeks now. Too bad my resub hit just before the OP e news 24 article hit lmao.
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