DUST Search - The last nail in the coffin

TIGER SHARK1501 wrote:

XxBlazikenxX wrote:

I wouldn't go just yet. I too have spent hundreds of dollars on this game and thousands of hours as well, I even went so far as to give my money away and start biomassing. But then I thought about the everything I gambled on this game, my real life money and time. I'm not going to throw away my investment just yet, and I suggest you don't either.

Take a break if you must but don't count Dust 514 out of the equation just yet. CCP is working on something, I can't tell you what, but I know deep down they are working on something that will change the future of Dust 514 and the fps game industry.

We're not dead yet.

See you star side mercenary.

Agreed! Even if there is a port or reboot of any sort down the road if you biomass you've got nothing. Granted we've put time and money into the game for fun each of our characters is special. I like the weapons, skins, and skills that I've gone for.

I'm sure CCP is doing something but as an outsider it seems like they have fewer resources than at the start and are doing the best with what they've got.

Like BlazikenxX said if your feeling burnt out just take a break. I've been playing MGS ground zeroes before I start the phantom pain. I'll still play dust but we all need mini breaks.

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VAHZZ RabbitGang 13 COILS 9	Posted - 2015.09.27 07:53:00 - [31] - Quote ZED Regent wrote: Just curious... I see you lost your VF tag.... What happened? I guess he got tired of stabbing people in the back. Co-Founder of RabbitGang "VAHZZ is Forum Jesus" - GJR OG Scout Sniper.
DiablosMajora 311	Posted - 2015.09.27 08:03:00 - [32] - Quote Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: I wouldn't go just yet. I too have spent hundreds of dollars on this game and thousands of hours as well, I even went so far as to give my money away and start biomassing. But then I thought about the everything I gambled on this game, my real life money and time. I'm not going to throw away my investment just yet, and I suggest you don't either.. You should probably look up the Sunk Costs Fallacy. "In economics, a sunk cost is any past cost that has already been paid and cannot be recovered. For example, a business may have invested a million dollars into new hardware. This money is now gone and cannot be recovered, so it shouldnGÇÖt figure into the businessGÇÖs decision making process. Or, letGÇÖs say you buy tickets to a concert. On the day of the event, you catch a cold. Even though you are sick, you decide to go to the concert because otherwise GÇ£you would have wasted your moneyGÇ¥. Boom! You just fell for the sunk cost fallacy. Sure, you spent the money already. But you canGÇÖt get it back. If you arenGÇÖt going to have a good time at the concert, you only make your life worse by going." As someone in finance, I just have to say that sunk costs are ultimately BS. Don't make me start going off on cashflows, NPVs, bookvalue, marketvalue, and depreciation of those concert tickets. Prepare your angus
benandjerrys Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 796	Posted - 2015.09.27 13:19:00 - [33] - Quote ZED Regent wrote: Just curious... I see you lost your VF tag.... What happened? Inactivity lol. Next time I'm online I'm resubmitting an app. ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content Advisor Vader's-Fist
benandjerrys Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 796	Posted - 2015.09.27 13:20:00 - [34] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: ZED Regent wrote: Just curious... I see you lost your VF tag.... What happened? I guess he got tired of stabbing people in the back. Uh... Vahzz what exactly did I do to you? Again no derails please. My numerous accounts on EvE are unsubscribed not Biomassed. My loot and isk was hard earned and giving it to someone who deserves it. ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content Advisor Vader's-Fist
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 382	Posted - 2015.09.27 13:49:00 - [35] - Quote Quite honestly I can't argue against your points OP. But in the event you are wrong and we do get a port just roll in the side of caution and keep your Guns and ISK. \0/
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 4	Posted - 2015.09.27 14:12:00 - [36] - Quote It turned out that dust is "just" a shooter which take place in New Eden universe with no real connection to the rest of the universe. Everything went wrong and CCP had to simplify the game, imagine if they told us from the start that's a shooter based in NE universe, i'm sure that nobody would have complained about it, but they told it was a MMO FPS and expectation raised. Lies have short legs, VW docet. Regressed to blueberry level.
axis alpha ScReWeD uP InC 1	Posted - 2015.09.27 14:36:00 - [37] - Quote Two years of being slapped in the face at eve fest I kinda knew this already. It sucks. But for me there has got to be something in the works.... maybe not soon. Maybe when we least expect it. I hope. hope. Hope. Hullaballo and howdy doo! Musty prawns, and Timbucktu. Yeltsibee and hibbertyhoo Kick 'em in the dishpan. Hoo hoo hoo!
benandjerrys Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 796	Posted - 2015.09.27 14:56:00 - [38] - Quote Avallo Kantor wrote: I really don't get the reason you are upset. A tournament for EVE online is focused on EVE online? Look EVE online has its events and DUST has its events, but they share a storyline. The Amarr event we just had was focused around the same lore events that the later Amarr tournament is going to focus on. Meanwhile EVE players as a whole are not getting any player-wide gifts / items for the event of the empress dying. They get to experience the story line in space, but we have to accept that DUST in it's current form has no real ability to let players run the story segment of a singular event without it being a much larger "war". We also have no idea if there -will- be anything relating DUST side once the tournament comes around, or if there will be other events to compare that we get. We may get something as well, just not a tournament that requires months of prep time. The dev team that headed up lore for Dust stopped producing content 2 years ago. Vaders-fist led a resurgence to "reclaim" Molden Heath a couple months ago. Sarum died and our community was included somewhat. Didn't matter if we won or lost 100% just lobbying lore was important in an attempt to bring back cross content. I would highly recommend players go to the channel Imperial OOC or talk with guys like True Adamance or Thal Vadam. Items are awarded in EvE for significant events like game anniversaries or participation in Alliance tournaments. The EvE news 24 announcement is the OFFICIAL guidelines. Let's just face it hillmar does not want an fps in eves future and is now chasing another incarna Pipedream (Valkyrie) that I refuse to be apart of any longer. ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content Advisor Vader's-Fist
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 207	Posted - 2015.09.27 15:09:00 - [39] - Quote benandjerrys wrote: Let's just face it hillmar does not want an fps in eves future and is now chasing another incarna Pipedream (Valkyrie) that I refuse to be apart of any longer. Preach! I think the most telling thing about Valkyrie is that it's not directly connected to EVE. It's a standalone thing in the EVE universe. It seems like CCP has really given up on bringing a more connected experience to New Eden.
benandjerrys Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 796	Posted - 2015.09.27 17:02:00 - [40] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: Sorry to hear that. As much skepticism I had for what you were trying to accomplish with Vader's Fist and One Universe/One War you were fighting a good fight to strengthen the development of both communities. It's a disappointment that this call to at least recognize the Dust community in a meaningful way 'appears' to be falling on deaf ears. And I hope it doesn't the skin event felt alot like the original Drifters vs Amarr concept idea I had promoted first but I now think that killing off Dust with Drifters would put an end to how it was started lore wise in the first place. EvE killed Sarum who basically is the Mom of Dust. It's bittersweet leaving. If we had some semblance of the meta coordination the communities (EvE included) back in 2013 the Rouge Wedding could of been seen in a different light. Let's face it the Goon vs CVA conflict killed Sarum in CCPs new take on players influencing the games story mode but I'd rather root against John Cena with my 8 year old son. That's enough soap opera for me now. ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content Advisor Vader's-Fist

Asad Thahab-Jabal Incorruptibles 196	Posted - 2015.09.27 17:07:00 - [41] - Quote DiablosMajora wrote: As someone in finance, I just have to say that sunk costs are ultimately BS. Don't make me start going off on cashflows, NPVs, bookvalue, marketvalue, and depreciation of those concert tickets. And if we were talking about a corporation then you would probably be on the right track. But in this context we are talking about a person and their perceived value of giving CCP their money. So many players have hung around Dust 514 because they gave CCP hundreds of dollars; they then feel as though they cannot leave Dust because it would present a loss. Real talk: you don't owe Dust 514 anything. I don't care if you have spent $10 or $10,000, if you have stopped having fun and disappointed with the complete lack of communication from CCP then just walk away. Ripley Riley is on safari until Oct 9th. I will represent him until he returns.
DiablosMajora 311	Posted - 2015.09.27 17:39:00 - [42] - Quote Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote: DiablosMajora wrote: As someone in finance, I just have to say that sunk costs are ultimately BS. Don't make me start going off on cashflows, NPVs, bookvalue, marketvalue, and depreciation of those concert tickets. And if we were talking about a corporation then you would probably be on the right track. But in this context we are talking about a person and their perceived value of giving CCP their money. So many players have hung around Dust 514 because they had given CCP hundreds of dollars; they then feel as though they cannot leave Dust because it would present a loss. Real talk: you don't owe Dust 514 anything. I don't care if you have spent $10 or $10,000, if you have stopped having fun and disappointed with the complete lack of communication from CCP then just walk away. Perceived value we are talking about indeed. And as such, we are discussing the utility derived from whatever monetary or time investment a person makes into Dust or it's perceived value. I haven't spent money on the game in quite some time, let alone played it in months, but I still derive utility from lurking the forums and seeing what is updated from time to time. I perceive it to be more valuable, in the long run, than other games, so here I am without a biomassed character. Others may not see it as such and they can leave on a whim or biomass, but that may not be a smart or rational choice to make given the future is ultimately always uncertain. TLDR: don't burn bridges and get your dopamine fixes Prepare your angus
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2015.09.27 18:15:00 - [43] - Quote Lol, EVE has always been a game that rejects 90% of its player base. That's why they can never raise their customer base very much and most players are just passing through. Only the diehard swampass nerdcorps stick to that game for any length of time. Anybody that already has a first life doesn't need a game that is based on a second life. Seriously, the people like the Mittani that get famous and a lot of gamers look up to is just pathetic in my eyes. How in the world can you put so much time into a video game to get to the point these guys do? It's a sickness. I feel for their families. I spent only one eighth the time on EVE and it was enough to begin effecting my family life. Also, thisGÇª https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VbYNLmtAMAw As is mentioned on posts for that youtube video, the EVE community is toxic. The game promotes that behavior to its detriment and this game was becoming just as toxic right up to the point it got cancelled and all the jerkwads either left or no longer had any real reason to worry about anything. So, yeah. You and I are counted out. Real encouraging isn't it! CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
benandjerrys Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 796	Posted - 2015.09.27 19:03:00 - [44] - Quote I'm not leaving due to "sandbox" politics if a player steals from me fine! I deserved it. When the company that facilitates this does though thru its apathy and delivery of a poor product... (Mind you if we had another 10 ratattis then it wouldnt)Let me sum this up. It's a product outsourced by china a lag leaden pos on a dead console after this holiday season. A good old fashioned... Scam. ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content Advisor Vader's-Fist
7th Son 7 Hakuna Matatah Inc 1	Posted - 2015.09.27 19:29:00 - [45] - Quote benandjerrys wrote: I'm not leaving due to "sandbox" politics if a player steals from me fine! I deserved it. When the company that facilitates this does though thru its apathy and delivery of a poor product... (Mind you if we had another 10 ratattis then it wouldnt)Let me sum this up. It's a product outsourced by china a lag leaden pos on a dead console after this holiday season. A good old fashioned... Scam. Buy Aurum Today!, I feel you, I hit that wall myself recently. Performance of the game gets thrown to the wayside but there's something new to buy in the market every other day, it's bs man. Let's not forget that CCP completely shut down talking about Legion. I was taught that company's wanted loyal customers but the way CCP is handling this game seems like they just want money because Valkyrie was an expensive game to make. Regardless I enjoy and love the players here (most of you anyway,lol), but not CCP and the way they are currently going about things. Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 18	Posted - 2015.09.28 00:42:00 - [46] - Quote DUST's theme song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynx26LJ1YC4 Ripley Riley: > Post Hotfix Foxour Gallente Assault: > DakkadakkadakkadakkaFREEDOMdakkadakka
benandjerrys Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 799	Posted - 2015.09.28 01:54:00 - [47] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Lol, EVE has always been a game that rejects 90% of its player base. That's why they can never raise their customer base very much and most players are just passing through. Only the diehard swampass nerdcorps stick to that game for any length of time. Anybody that already has a first life doesn't need a game that is based on a second life. Seriously, the people like the Mittani that get famous and a lot of gamers look up to is just pathetic in my eyes. How in the world can you put so much time into a video game to get to the point these guys do? It's a sickness. I feel for their families. I spent only one eighth the time on EVE and it was enough to begin effecting my family life. Also, thisGÇª https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VbYNLmtAMAw As is mentioned on posts for that youtube video, the EVE community is toxic. The game promotes that behavior to its detriment and this game was becoming just as toxic right up to the point it got cancelled and all the jerkwads either left or no longer had any real reason to worry about anything. So, yeah. You and I are counted out. Real encouraging isn't it! It is supposed to be an absolute "simulation of anarchy" now some people may take this too seriously but actually having consequences for your actions (some months long mistakes) appealed to me the end game only reached by risking trusting others never grows old but the execs destroyed this version. ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content Advisor Vader's-Fist
KGB Sleep 1	Posted - 2015.09.28 02:04:00 - [48] - Quote Hey you can play both for free. eve let's you earn plex, and just resist buying Aur for Dust. Go dormant for awhile until the next thing. I'm sure you can still make appearances on the podcasts as well. Good luck. Because beer, that's why.
benandjerrys Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 799	Posted - 2015.09.28 02:04:00 - [49] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: DUST's theme song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynx26LJ1YC4 Lmao cat I think this is more fitting What leaving should of been like: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WzNVmZfNoa8 What was reality: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RxPZh4AnWyk ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content Advisor Vader's-Fist
137H4RGIC Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 530	Posted - 2015.09.28 03:59:00 - [50] - Quote You know, you could host your own tournament in their favor. CCP is big on community events. While its not a big shiny thing that the EVE Devs are offering, at least you could hold a big prize to the winning team. Or something. I'm sure tournament isn't something hard to come up with. And it would shake the latter, as it were, to let the guys higher up know that we're still here. Or Even better.... In defiance. Start holding public executions of all Amarrian DUST Mercenaries, in protest that those who fight with guns in their hands will never be forgotten. Because we fight where it counts. Watching from the shadows. Always there, yet never seen.

benandjerrys Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden 804	Posted - 2015.09.28 13:14:00 - [51] - Quote 137H4RGIC wrote: You know, you could host your own tournament in their favor. CCP is big on community events. While its not a big shiny thing that the EVE Devs are offering, at least you could hold a big prize to the winning team. Or something. I'm sure tournament isn't something hard to come up with. And it would shake the latter, as it were, to let the guys higher up know that we're still here. Or Even better.... In defiance. Start holding public executions of all Amarrian DUST Mercenaries, in protest that those who fight with guns in their hands will never be forgotten. Because we fight where it counts. Already posted this here but bears repeating in response to 134h4rgic. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ld1nTIH-hwM Maybe that and the episode 65 of biomassed http://biomassed.net/2015/08/03/episode-65-loredec/ Inspired the Amarr event but who really knows. I do like where that idea you had is going but its not worth the time if the footwork isn't made by not one but a whole group of people... But I think that's the last bit of interactive lore this community will ever get. It's a waste really. Tony Gonzalez did such a great job with Templar One and all https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=55512 Then again we should of seen this coming even prior to 5/14/2013 since EvE and Tony went their separate ways after. ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content Advisor Vader's-Fist
IVIaster LUKE 967	Posted - 2015.09.28 13:25:00 - [52] - Quote I has crowbar, will travel? You need? Port? shakes head Anybody have spare tickets for the nope train going to fuckthatshitsville?
137H4RGIC Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 532	Posted - 2015.09.28 14:40:00 - [53] - Quote Hey, nice video! Watching from the shadows. Always there, yet never seen.
benandjerrys Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden 804	Posted - 2015.09.28 15:22:00 - [54] - Quote 137H4RGIC wrote: Hey, nice video! I wrote the text mopp did the audio visual Vader's provided the input/content. ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content Advisor Vader's-Fist
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet RUST415 424	Posted - 2015.09.28 20:05:00 - [55] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: I wouldn't go just yet. I too have spent hundreds of dollars on this game and thousands of hours as well, I even went so far as to give my money away and start biomassing. But then I thought about the everything I gambled on this game, my real life money and time. I'm not going to throw away my investment just yet, and I suggest you don't either. Take a break if you must but don't count Dust 514 out of the equation just yet. CCP is working on something, I can't tell you what, but I know deep down they are working on something that will change the future of Dust 514 and the fps game industry. We're not dead yet. See you star side mercenary. Agreed! Even if there is a port or reboot of any sort down the road if you biomass you've got nothing. Granted we've put time and money into the game for fun each of our characters is special. I like the weapons, skins, and skills that I've gone for. I'm sure CCP is doing something but as an outsider it seems like they have fewer resources than at the start and are doing the best with what they've got. Like BlazikenxX said if your feeling burnt out just take a break. I've been playing MGS ground zeroes before I start the phantom pain. I'll still play dust but we all need mini breaks.
benandjerrys Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden 804	Posted - 2015.09.29 01:10:00 - [56] - Quote It's more of a wait and see type of thing been logging on to give out loot. Bons and kubos PLC was given out last night, bout 20 each. ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content Advisor Vader's-Fist
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2015.09.29 04:27:00 - [57] - Quote TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: I wouldn't go just yet. I too have spent hundreds of dollars on this game and thousands of hours as well, I even went so far as to give my money away and start biomassing. But then I thought about the everything I gambled on this game, my real life money and time. I'm not going to throw away my investment just yet, and I suggest you don't either. Take a break if you must but don't count Dust 514 out of the equation just yet. CCP is working on something, I can't tell you what, but I know deep down they are working on something that will change the future of Dust 514 and the fps game industry. We're not dead yet. See you star side mercenary. Agreed! Even if there is a port or reboot of any sort down the road if you biomass you've got nothing. Granted we've put time and money into the game for fun each of our characters is special. I like the weapons, skins, and skills that I've gone for. I'm sure CCP is doing something but as an outsider it seems like they have fewer resources than at the start and are doing the best with what they've got. Like BlazikenxX said if your feeling burnt out just take a break. I've been playing MGS ground zeroes before I start the phantom pain. I'll still play dust but we all need mini breaks. A great refresher is to either find some kids or have your kids play this game. You'll laugh at how big a lol this game is. My son goes into a match and says, "What am I supposed to do?" I tell him, "See that red letter A? You have to get to that and hack it." He says, "Through all those red guys?" Yep. Then he says, "Heck with that" and proceeds to screw around by just running and shooting and exploring. And people wonder why players give up and/or leave gamesGÇª CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
benandjerrys Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden 820	Posted - 2015.09.29 16:17:00 - [58] - Quote My kids HAAAATE this game ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content Advisor Vader's-Fist
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 974	Posted - 2015.09.29 16:22:00 - [59] - Quote Ralis Sharn wrote: Hate to see another long term player leave. I enjoyed reading your posts and hope to see you back someday. o7 They leave. They cry. They whine. They yearn for attention. "I've been a customer for X amount of years". Seriously bro, if you didn't leave after Rogue Wedding, you're dedicated until the PS3 explodes. Stop the pity party Leave without words Group hugs are fantastically lame benandjerrys done this before...like Cuse Town, he will cry, sober up and then return to play. They always come back. Many left without a word said and they never returned Saying what's on people's minds
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6	Posted - 2015.09.29 16:28:00 - [60] - Quote benandjerrys wrote: It's more of a wait and see type of thing been logging on to give out loot. Bons and kubos PLC was given out last night, bout 20 each. I will say that you're far less likely to have people ***** about yet another departure thread this way. Everyone loves free stuff. I honestly do understand where you're coming from as well. I just made a thread about the newest Scope News Report that just made me bitter about the 2013 FanFest presentation we all remember. I'm just going to keep doing my daily logins and Warbarge claims without actually playing for the time being. At least that way I'm getting the maximum possible amount of Passive SP gain so if the game does migrate, I'll have made some progress. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector



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