Tanks aren't OP.

Tanks were seriously nerfed a long time ago, to the point of useless. If people are saying they're OP atm then they should be working as intended...

This exaggeration on your part rather heavily implies that you must be a very craptacular shot. I find no problem destroying or evicting tanks with my Militia Forge setup.

Do you have video footage of this? Or a time reference of some kind.

We cannot infer anything from what you're claiming here without some kind of time reference.

Example: I can shoot a guy and do a total of 4,500 damage to him, ----over the course of 10 minutes...
Then come here and complain that the guy took more than 4,500 damage to kill...

But then they were seriously buffed a while ago... to the point of Godliness... They have not been brought down much from then...

Sat through a game where this one tank was surviving everything... and I mean every ******* thing. A **** ton of AV and even another proto tank... I throw 3 lai dais and a Proto PLC shot, he shoved that **** off like nothing... That was around the time when my team mates through their PLC's and SL and ****, not a ******* dent. Then a Proto tank of our team came in. The guy barely even winced. Went back to his redline, and did it all again a minute later... WTF? There was like 5+ guys doing AV, and not even a dent? Come on....

Shield tanks are underperforming both objectively and when compaired to armour tanks. All the modules pertaining to shield tanking need to be looked at again at the very least. So they're not OP.

Armour tanks are performing far too well. Double-hardener/rep/scanner configuration is unplayable for infantry, and once you do start to put a dent into them they're fast enough to GTFO, rep up and reset the hardeners. Then they pile back in and wreck face ad infinitum.

Now, if armour plating had a massive drag on your acceleration and reps would reduce your top speed (they're tremendously powerful, and passive, so why not make them draw on the main reactor at the cost of power being dsiverted from drive engines?) then you can make armour tanks into a "commit-to-the-death" stand and deliver battle tank, vacating a space for shield tanks to assume the role of agile fast attackers.

Tanks aren't OP...the modules that they use is a whole different story though.

I knew that was coming... I even put it in the title.. I can only blame myself...

Essentially this.

Sat through a game where this one tank was surviving everything... and I mean every ******* thing. A **** ton of AV and even another proto tank... I throw 3 lai dais and a Proto PLC shot, he shoved that **** off like nothing... That was around the time when my team mates through their PLC's and SL and ****, not a ******* dent. Then a Proto tank of our team came in. The guy barely even winced. Went back to his redline, and did it all again a minute later... WTF? There was like 5+ guys doing AV, and not even a dent? Come on....

EDIT- Also good to see you back Wyrm did you kick the Bloodborne. DKS2 Addiction?

Yeah Bloodborne didn't last long though, made 4 builds and stopped playing. Currently hooked with Destiny, and trying Planetside 2. But everytime I play PS2 I think of Dust. I have 7.5m SP to spend right now, think I'm gonna go Caldari Scout and Rail Rifle.

Use Packed Lai Dai's. Packed Lai Dai's are devastating to tanks.

Sat through a game where this one tank was surviving everything... and I mean every ******* thing. A **** ton of AV and even another proto tank... I throw 3 lai dais and a Proto PLC shot, he shoved that **** off like nothing... That was around the time when my team mates through their PLC's and SL and ****, not a ******* dent. Then a Proto tank of our team came in. The guy barely even winced. Went back to his redline, and did it all again a minute later... WTF? There was like 5+ guys doing AV, and not even a dent? Come on....

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OMFG.

Ok, I'm going to have a rant here.

Tanks are absolute ****. They really are. I can't tell me how much it pisses me off when I lose my 200K ISK Tank to freaking Militia Swarms. It's absolutely ridiculous. There is basically no discernible damage difference between Militia and Proto Swarms. They all ******* destroy me.

People complain about ******* double hardened Tanks, but you know what? THAT IS LITERALLY THE ONLY VIABLE FIT. Seriously, I can't do **** if I'm not double hardened, because, oh look, ******* Militia Swarms. Then you've got the long-ass cooldown where I'm doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to help my team.

Installations are a freaking joke because they literally shut down AN ENTIRE ******* AREA because they fire automatically, so I genuinely have to spend half the match trying to destroy the things. That's half the match I'm not doing anything useful.

If there are any other Tanks on the field, you can kiss your chances of being productive goodbye. Why? Well, you'll now have to spend the rest of the match trying to destroy each other. You're having ABSOLUTELY NO IMPACT on infantry or the outcome of the match. You exist solely to destroy each other. THAT'S IT! That's all you're doing! It's so pointless! It's as if the battle raging is completely separate from you.

If, by some miracle, there are no other Tanks on the field, you may retreat to your redline (after having spent half the match mindlessly shooting at Installations) to switch to a Blaster Tank. But hey, LOOK OUT FOR THOSE MILITIA SWARMS! They shoot from further than you can render, and you can't tell where they're coming from!

The driving controls are so confounded that any sort of maneuverability is absolutely impossible. The Tanks are so big that you won't be able to touch any AVers because they hide themselves in tiny nooks and crannies.

Oh, what's that? Why don't I get closer, you say? Well, then you've got the problem of ******* AV GRENADES.

These things are stupidly OP. Shockingly, they're even more OP than Swarms. Especially the Lai Dai Packed AV Grenades. All three of them can be thrown before you can even get your hardeners up. They'll pop a Proto Tank in THREE SECONDS FLAT. You know what the worst thing is, though? Lai Dai Packed AV Grenades cost 23,610 ISK. Proto Tanks cost several million ISK. DO YOU SEE THE DISCREPANCY HERE?!?!

People complain about Proto Tanks, but that's literally the only tier that can stand a chance against infantry.

OBs are another thing. As a Tanker, you need to CONSTANTLY be moving at all times because you never know when someone's going to drop an OB on you because they can see you from the FREAKING OVERHEAD MAP, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. Enjoy getting insta-popped.

You know what the saddest thing is? I get a higher K/D on my infantry alt than on my Tanking main. That really says something about the state of Tanks.

If I see an enemy Proto Tank on the field, I have to leave the match. A Proto Tank will beat any other tiered Tank EVERY SINGLE TIME. There's literally nothing that can be done to kill it if you're not also in a Proto Tank. I will die every single time. The discrepancy in performance between how a Standard Tank compares with a Proto Tank, and how a Standard Dropsuit compares with a Proto Dropsuit, is absolutely staggering. With Tanks, it really is go Proto or go home.

THE NEXT TIME YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT 'OP TANKS', YOU SHOULD THINK TWICE, BECAUSE US TANKERS HAVE IT FAR, FAR HARDER THAN YOU INFANTRY CAN EVEN BEGIN TO COMPREHEND.

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Commandos, that's another thing.

People say 'hurr durr using AV means we can't fight other infantry', but that's absolute BS because they can just use Commando suits.

I'm not saying that Commando suiss are inherently OP (they kinda are), but it's peoples' attitudes that are annoying. People just don't seem to care about how unfair it is for Tankers. They don't appreciate all the time, effort and ISK that goes into this role.

Yes, Tanking is a role. How could you say that something that costs over 20M SP and countless ISK to get to full Proto isn't a role?!?!

Call me a cab.

Well when you have 5+ guys doing continual AV damage and him just shrugging it off.. I understand what you mean, but he took on multiple AV and even a proto tank and still was shrugging this off... At once

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OMFG.

Ok, I'm going to have a rant here.

Tanks are absolute ****. They really are. I can't tell me how much it pisses me off when I lose my 200K ISK Tank to freaking Militia Swarms. It's absolutely ridiculous. There is basically no discernible damage difference between Militia and Proto Swarms. They all ******* destroy me.

People complain about ******* double hardened Tanks, but you know what? THAT IS LITERALLY THE ONLY VIABLE FIT. Seriously, I can't do **** if I'm not double hardened, because, oh look, ******* Militia Swarms. Then you've got the long-ass cooldown where I'm doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to help my team.

Installations are a freaking joke because they literally shut down AN ENTIRE ******* AREA because they fire automatically, so I genuinely have to spend half the match trying to destroy the things. That's half the match I'm not doing anything useful.

If there are any other Tanks on the field, you can kiss your chances of being productive goodbye. Why? Well, you'll now have to spend the rest of the match trying to destroy each other. You're having ABSOLUTELY NO IMPACT on infantry or the outcome of the match. You exist solely to destroy each other. THAT'S IT! That's all you're doing! It's so pointless! It's as if the battle raging is completely separate from you.

If, by some miracle, there are no other Tanks on the field, you may retreat to your redline (after having spent half the match mindlessly shooting at Installations) to switch to a Blaster Tank. But hey, LOOK OUT FOR THOSE MILITIA SWARMS! They shoot from further than you can render, and you can't tell where they're coming from!

The driving controls are so confounded that any sort of maneuverability is absolutely impossible. The Tanks are so big that you won't be able to touch any AVers because they hide themselves in tiny nooks and crannies.

Oh, what's that? Why don't I get closer, you say? Well, then you've got the problem of ******* AV GRENADES.

These things are stupidly OP. Shockingly, they're even more OP than Swarms. Especially the Lai Dai Packed AV Grenades. All three of them can be thrown before you can even get your hardeners up. They'll pop a Proto Tank in THREE SECONDS FLAT. You know what the worst thing is, though? Lai Dai Packed AV Grenades cost 23,610 ISK. Proto Tanks cost several million ISK. DO YOU SEE THE DISCREPANCY HERE?!?!

People complain about Proto Tanks, but that's literally the only tier that can stand a chance against infantry.

OBs are another thing. As a Tanker, you need to CONSTANTLY be moving at all times because you never know when someone's going to drop an OB on you because they can see you from the FREAKING OVERHEAD MAP, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. Enjoy getting insta-popped.

You know what the saddest thing is? I get a higher K/D on my infantry alt than on my Tanking main. That really says something about the state of Tanks.

If I see an enemy Proto Tank on the field, I have to leave the match. A Proto Tank will beat any other tiered Tank EVERY SINGLE TIME. There's literally nothing that can be done to kill it if you're not also in a Proto Tank. I will die every single time. The discrepancy in performance between how a Standard Tank compares with a Proto Tank, and how a Standard Dropsuit compares with a Proto Dropsuit, is absolutely staggering. With Tanks, it really is go Proto or go home.

THE NEXT TIME YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT 'OP TANKS', YOU SHOULD THINK TWICE, BECAUSE US TANKERS HAVE IT FAR, FAR HARDER THAN YOU INFANTRY CAN EVEN BEGIN TO COMPREHEND.

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Sat through a game where this one tank was surviving everything... and I mean every ******* thing. A **** ton of AV and even another proto tank... I throw 3 lai dais and a Proto PLC shot, he shoved that **** off like nothing... That was around the time when my team mates through their PLC's and SL and ****, not a ******* dent. Then a Proto tank of our team came in. The guy barely even winced. Went back to his redline, and did it all again a minute later... WTF? There was like 5+ guys doing AV, and not even a dent? Come on....

Use Packed Lai Dai's. Packed Lai Dai's are devastating to tanks.

Tanks are not op. They are expensive.

Losing 1 is not viable. Unless their militia.

Imagine losing millions in a single match. Thats just.

Padwan, do you know the ways of the RE Truck, AKA Bomb truck, AKA Jihad LAV? This is a powerful tool in the fight against tanks.

Commandos, that's another thing.

People say 'hurr durr using AV means we can't fight other infantry', but that's absolute BS because they can just use Commando suits.

I'm not saying that Commando suiss are inherently OP (they kinda are), but it's peoples' attitudes that are annoying. People just don't seem to care about how unfair it is for Tankers. They don't appreciate all the time, effort and ISK that goes into this role.

Yes, Tanking is a role. How could you say that something that costs over 20M SP and countless ISK to get to full Proto isn't a role?!?!

Tanks were seriously nerfed a long time ago, to the point of useless. If people are saying they're OP atm then they should be working as intended...

Eh a commando suit might give you a small chance against infantry, if you survive long enough to switch weapons. But AV suits are generally glass cannons, it's like rushing up with a sniper fit. You have to do as much dmg as possible with your high slots and be fast enough to try and keep up with a tank over rough terrain. Generally you understand that no amount of armor will help you against a tank, they take down sentinels just as fast as any other drop suit really.

While a back up weapon does help, it doesn't help a ton. Plus you have to pay for that extra light weapon, and they are not cheap. On average you can expect 40k + for a proto weapon, at least 8k for advanced. This can bump your AV fit to 100k easily, for something that more than likely will die trying to kill a tank, or die right afterwards to infantry.

Yet people complain their 200k tanks die after they slaughter 20 or 30 people and few AV's get together and take them out?

This is what ******** tankers actually believe.

Lol thank you for posting that. Dem tears are tasty. And by you posting that and being a tanker..I assume you have the same tears. Good to know.

First of all the only reason your talking about tanks is because my post was legitimate, and any post I post gets talked about for two weeks. I made a valid point why some AV weapons are pretty powerful. Not my fault your team was trying to bust a proto tank with milita AV Try driving a proto tank, you won't last two matches. One more thing, double hardener tanks are a must. You swarmers force us to have them. So a tip to av, your tierd of seeing double hardened tanks. Stop complaining that tanks are" op". Honestly I should run for cpm2 lol. Sorry for wall of text this is from my phone.