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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.08.09 22:24:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:Sat through a game where this one tank was surviving everything... and I mean every ******* thing. A **** ton of AV and even another proto tank... I throw 3 lai dais and a Proto PLC shot, he shoved that **** off like nothing... That was around the time when my team mates through their PLC's and SL and ****, not a ******* dent. Then a Proto tank of our team came in. The guy barely even winced. Went back to his redline, and did it all again a minute later... WTF? There was like 5+ guys doing AV, and not even a dent? Come on....
Tanks aren't OP.
The source of the unbalance lies in two kinds of modules.
Passive Heavy Armour Repairers which offer active module levels of repair per second value with no down time or upkeep requirements.
Prolific Damage resistance modules, aka Armour and Shield Hardeners. Yes I said both as both lead to massive inconsistencies in eHP levels.
HAV should never have focused on eHP, it was very unhealthy for balance. Rather they should have focused on Raw HP and modified/ mitigated damage through the use of smaller active resistances and repairs/boosts.
40% Shield and Armour Hardeners are making HAV vastly too difficult to remove from the field while having comparatively low shield and armour buffers (around 4000 where once 6000-7000 were possible) leads to HAV often times being too weak while active modules are down and behaviour that is more or less reviled by the wider community but necessary if you want to survive.
EDIT- Also good to see you back Wyrm did you kick the Bloodborne. DKS2 Addiction?
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.08.09 22:42:00 -
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Kierkegaard Soren wrote:Shield tanks are underperforming both objectively and when compaired to armour tanks. All the modules pertaining to shield tanking need to be looked at again at the very least. So they're not OP.
Armour tanks are performing far too well. Double-hardener/rep/scanner configuration is unplayable for infantry, and once you do start to put a dent into them they're fast enough to GTFO, rep up and reset the hardeners. Then they pile back in and wreck face ad infinitum.
Now, if armour plating had a massive drag on your acceleration and reps would reduce your top speed (they're tremendously powerful, and passive, so why not make them draw on the main reactor at the cost of power being dsiverted from drive engines?) then you can make armour tanks into a "commit-to-the-death" stand and deliver battle tank, vacating a space for shield tanks to assume the role of agile fast attackers.
Ironically they are better than they were last build though and back then there were over powered by comparison.
As for your assertions that armour tanks and shield tanks need to be hedged into arbitrary roles you have to remember that the Caldari are the masters of siege warfare. They are the stand and deliver shield based version of the Amarr. Slower even than the Amarr but as tanked as they come.
Also you ideas about higher armour values decreasing the repair amounts..... are.... kind of silly.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.08.09 23:12:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:True Adamance wrote:
EDIT- Also good to see you back Wyrm did you kick the Bloodborne. DKS2 Addiction?
Yeah Bloodborne didn't last long though, made 4 builds and stopped playing. Currently hooked with Destiny, and trying Planetside 2. But everytime I play PS2 I think of Dust.  I have 7.5m SP to spend right now, think I'm gonna go Caldari Scout and Rail Rifle.
I lost interest after one build..... just wasn't my cup of tea. I might go back to Destiny once TTK comes out and I can throw fire hammers at people but PS2 never sold itself for me. Especially since I was put on the UK servers by default with whom I have a god awful connection.
FFXIV is my main game now alongside War Thunder Ground Forces.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.08.10 02:28:00 -
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Cloak Dog wrote:Louis Domi wrote:Sat through a game where this one tank was surviving everything... and I mean every ******* thing. A **** ton of AV and even another proto tank... I throw 3 lai dais and a Proto PLC shot, he shoved that **** off like nothing... That was around the time when my team mates through their PLC's and SL and ****, not a ******* dent. Then a Proto tank of our team came in. The guy barely even winced. Went back to his redline, and did it all again a minute later... WTF? There was like 5+ guys doing AV, and not even a dent? Come on.... Dust514
None of you pansies have seen a real tank before!
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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