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Guardian9
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Posted - 2015.08.07 17:28:00 -
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I serious, need tip.
Troll
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Tweaksz
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.08.07 17:29:00 -
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Guardian9 wrote:I serious, need tip.
Tape your thumbs to the stick and play like that for a whole day.
Pill Popping Madness!
FFS! Not every spanish speaker is Mexican, you may not be racist but you are ignorant as fuck.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
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Posted - 2015.08.07 17:33:00 -
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I should totally make a knifing guide...
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.08.07 17:36:00 -
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Guardian9 wrote:I serious, need tip.
Take tip, stick in target.
Repeat as necessary.
Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
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Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
873
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Posted - 2015.08.07 17:37:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:I should totally make a knifing guide...
1. hold knife
2. stick reds with pointy end
HA! beat you to it
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
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Posted - 2015.08.07 17:40:00 -
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This video helped me when I started knifing. It may be slightly outdated, but it will still be helpful.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.08.07 17:46:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:This video helped me when I started knifing. It may be slightly outdated, but it will still be helpful.
Learn from the real master 
Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
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Songs of Seraphim
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.08.07 17:47:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Guardian9 wrote:I serious, need tip. Take tip, stick in target. Repeat as necessary.
Oh, innuendos...
Achura Bloodline
State Loyalist
Fight the Gallente! Join Caldari FW!
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Dreis Shadowweaver
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
6
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Posted - 2015.08.07 17:48:00 -
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And then he wipes your entire squad. 
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
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Death Shadow117
Wolf Pack Special Forces
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Posted - 2015.08.07 17:49:00 -
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get 3 myofibs nd you don't need to
Duct tape fixes everything from weapons to suits and even tanks.
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Onesimus Tarsus
Vader's-Fist
3
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Posted - 2015.08.07 17:59:00 -
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Guardian9 wrote:I serious, need tip.
Stab clone with yes.
I have ONE PC match to my credit. ONE.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
12
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Posted - 2015.08.07 18:08:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:And then he wipes your entire squad.
With the old TT-3. With the firing situation presented to him, I expected nothing less. Was some good shooting.
That knifing though 
Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
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IceShifter Childhaspawn
Rebels New Republic
The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.08.07 18:35:00 -
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Macintosh gave a great lecture on knifing.
The basic idea is that you change your perspective to that of a stalker. Ambush in the 'cat hunting something' sense.
You also need to get much closer than one would think.
Use as a defense sidearm is based on closing distance and surprising the crap out of whomever is attacking you.
It's hard to beat up hundreds of armor piercing bullets using only your face...
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Dreis Shadowweaver
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
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Posted - 2015.08.07 18:39:00 -
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Knives work best when used as a sidearm, meaning that to get the most use out of them, you should also be running a light weapon. I use the ACR.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
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Aidualc
LATINOS KILLERS CORP
RUST415
515
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Posted - 2015.08.07 18:44:00 -
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Maybe if Nothi do a tutorial, everybody could learn how stab in Dust...
-- Ecce Initio -- Tomate Pote --
**Respectu, Honorem, Value, Unionem****
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.08.07 18:49:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Knives work best when used as a sidearm, meaning that to get the most use out of them, you should also be running a light weapon. I use the ACR.
While it should be like that, with enough skill, there is no need. I remember when I first skilled them to proto. They were extremely popular. I went 37/5 only using knives, no grenades no rifle, after like my 8th match using them.
CEO of 48SOF
Assault Gk.0-Scout Gk.0
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.08.07 18:51:00 -
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Y best tip to you, while the minmatar scout has the bonus to knives, use the Gallente scout. Use Kincat, ferroscale, rep, and dampener on lows, damage and precision on highs.
CEO of 48SOF
Assault Gk.0-Scout Gk.0
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VAHZZ
Vader's-Fist
6
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Posted - 2015.08.07 18:52:00 -
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You should study Hannibal Lecter to truly understand knives.
Director of Vader's Fist
Amarr Victor; Matari Taco Meat.
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Dreis Shadowweaver
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
6
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Posted - 2015.08.07 18:52:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:
Y best tip to you, while the minmatar scout has the bonus to knives, use the Gallente scout. Use Kincat, ferroscale, rep, and dampener on lows, damage and precision on highs.
^ Do not do this.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2015.08.07 19:13:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:
Y best tip to you, while the minmatar scout has the bonus to knives, use the Gallente scout. Use Kincat, ferroscale, rep, and dampener on lows, damage and precision on highs.
^ Do not do this.
I found the min scout to be better at knifing. Especially with heavies. |
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2015.08.07 19:15:00 -
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Personally on my main NK fit I run it as a primary with a BP as a side arm since it's got a punch and it's hard for enemies to tell where the BP fire is coming from. Throw on 3 KC's, one Precision, one jump, and one PG upgrade (advanced fit, you'll die a lot) and you're good to go.
Do not engage enemies straight on with that fit. There are many ways to do it, find the one that works for you. Remember it's good to stalk guys and get them when they're hacking :)
Edit: Also some maps / sockets are better than others for NK's. |
Dreis ShadowWeaver
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
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Posted - 2015.08.07 19:22:00 -
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Ares 514 wrote:Also some maps / sockets are better than others for NK's.
What ones do you think are best for knifing? For me, Line Harvest, Manus Peak and Ashlands are my favourites. I hate being forced into a CQC situation by the map, which is why I hate the Gal Research Facility. I need to get into CQC myself, not be forced into it.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
6
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Posted - 2015.08.07 19:27:00 -
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Don't feel bad about running a Cloak; it is an extremely useful piece of equipment, and it's the only thing that is consistent on all my Scout fits. Don't think that you're too good for the Cloak, and don't think that the Cloak is too good for you. Feel no shame when people call you a scrub for using it; they're just scrubs themselves for failing to counter it.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=181634
Some people may tell you that the Cloak is more of a hindrance than anything, but they're just not using it right. Heck, I could write a whole guide just on how to use the Cloak effectively.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
8
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Posted - 2015.08.07 19:32:00 -
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Put skill points into them.
Also, the Minmatar Scout.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2015.08.07 19:44:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Don't feel bad about running a Cloak; it is an extremely useful piece of equipment, and it's the only thing that is consistent on all my Scout fits. Don't think that you're too good for the Cloak, and don't think that the Cloak is too good for you. Feel no shame when people call you a scrub for using it; they're just scrubs themselves for failing to counter it. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=181634Some people may tell you that the Cloak is more of a hindrance than anything, but they're just not using it right. Heck, I could write a whole guide just on how to use the Cloak effectively.
Ha, my knifiing fits don't have cloaks, i go for speed. Except my new PC fit.... :) |
Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2
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Posted - 2015.08.07 19:47:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Ares 514 wrote:Also some maps / sockets are better than others for NK's. What ones do you think are best for knifing? For me, Line Harvest, Manus Peak and Ashlands are my favourites. I hate being forced into a CQC situation by the map, which is why I hate the Gal Research Facility. I need to get into CQC myself, not be forced into it.
I'm horrible with map names, since CCP couldn't put the one useful piece of info on deploying into a map (THE NAME!).
I like the city socket ones, the gal lag facility is definitely not a good NK one. The new surface research facility PC map is a great one and the CH one can be depending on who you're fighting. Sockets with cover and CRU's / supply depots make for good ones. I personally use my speed / precision to keep an eye out for enemies and murder them while they're focusing on something else. |
Radiant Pancake3
Destinys Immortals
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.08.07 21:28:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Don't feel bad about running a Cloak; it is an extremely useful piece of equipment, and it's the only thing that is consistent on all my Scout fits. Don't think that you're too good for the Cloak, and don't think that the Cloak is too good for you. Feel no shame when people call you a scrub for using it; they're just scrubs themselves for failing to counter it. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=181634Some people may tell you that the Cloak is more of a hindrance than anything, but they're just not using it right. Heck, I could write a whole guide just on how to use the Cloak effectively.
I... am strictly Anti Cloak... so :P I do pretty decent without it... trained a person how to knife without a cloak... he said it was like he was neutered... But in the end he got the hang of it... and thus was even more deadly. :)
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Varoth Drac
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.08.07 21:45:00 -
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There are many nuances that you are better off figuring out yourself. As far as simple tips for beginners go, I'll try some:
1) Basic knives are rubbish. Advanced are usable, proto are much better. These differences are much more pronounced than with rifles (though not as bad as they used to be). I often use advanced.
2) Try to stab people in the back before being spotted, preferably when they are stationary. For this you need stealth (dampeners, cloak if you can), and speed (kincat). My optimal fit is a Min scout with two dampeners and a kincat.
3) It's easiest to stab people when they are hacking. Stalk your prey and wait for the best time to attack. Don't give away your presence until you strike. Most targets, except heavies, are difficult to knife when they are running away from you, as the knives tend to miss.
4) Practice when best to charge, and when best to use quick slashes. Killing targets instantly with charged swipes is best, but not always the most practical. Be ready to finish targets with your light weapon if they move out of range after your initial hit.
I hope this helps. |
Dreis Shadowweaver
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
6
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Posted - 2015.08.07 21:55:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:3) It's easiest to stab people when they are hacking. Stalk your prey and wait for the best time to attack. Don't give away your presence until you strike. Most targets, except heavies, are difficult to knife when they are running away from you, as the knives tend to miss.
I remember back when I was new and inexperienced, I sucked so badly that I waited by our homepoint THE ENTIRE MATCH just so I could stab one guy when he came to hack it. Ahh, those were the days... 
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3
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Posted - 2015.08.07 22:12:00 -
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Knifing is more about patience, strategy and baiting opponents into following you than it is about making blind rushes at whatever you may be fighting.
Usually attempting to run at people with knives gets you killed very quickly.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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