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maybe deadcatz
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Posted - 2015.07.31 16:58:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Agreed with Ripley, Joel, and Adipem.
If you REALLY want to go scout, as soon as possible, I would suggest skilling into Dampeners first thing, then running your Assault dampened. You can get close enough in terms of dampening to have a scoutly play style, while still retaining the HP of an Assault. You can run Militia SGs and still be pretty deadly.
At that point, you can work on the necessary SP of scouts, like speed, stamina, hacking etc. It really is SP intensive, so just be aware beforehand.
I think its like almost 20 mill for cores,dampening,and a scout suit to level 5 right? I have like 6mill invested in weapons.
Need a speedy bro scout? Mail me,comes with shotgun and 20 pound bag of catnip for teh clonocide.(teh fak,cannot spell)
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.07.31 17:10:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Agreed with Ripley, Joel, and Adipem.
If you REALLY want to go scout, as soon as possible, I would suggest skilling into Dampeners first thing, then running your Assault dampened. You can get close enough in terms of dampening to have a scoutly play style, while still retaining the HP of an Assault. You can run Militia SGs and still be pretty deadly.
At that point, you can work on the necessary SP of scouts, like speed, stamina, hacking etc. It really is SP intensive, so just be aware beforehand. I think its like almost 20 mill for cores,dampening,and a scout suit to level 5 right? I have like 6mill invested in weapons.
Something like that. And that's without a suit or gun(s).
To do well, a Scout needs those Core Skills up more so than other infantry units. A newbro can kick arse while running Assault and leveling up his Core Skills. Can't do the same in a Scout suit.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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maybe deadcatz
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Posted - 2015.07.31 17:19:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Agreed with Ripley, Joel, and Adipem.
If you REALLY want to go scout, as soon as possible, I would suggest skilling into Dampeners first thing, then running your Assault dampened. You can get close enough in terms of dampening to have a scoutly play style, while still retaining the HP of an Assault. You can run Militia SGs and still be pretty deadly.
At that point, you can work on the necessary SP of scouts, like speed, stamina, hacking etc. It really is SP intensive, so just be aware beforehand. I think its like almost 20 mill for cores,dampening,and a scout suit to level 5 right? I have like 6mill invested in weapons. Something like that. And that's without a suit or gun(s). To do well, a Scout needs those Core Skills up more so than other infantry units. A newbro can kick arse while running Assault and leveling up his Core Skills. Can't do the same in a Scout suit.
Ive got around 25 mil. Kincats maxed armour,sheilds,pg,cpu,almost got damps and the scout ak.0 thats maybe 17 mill? Proto assault rifles,combat rifles,shotguns,novas,submachine guns,and nearly at scrambler pistols(with all weapons have at least 3 points in relaods,ammo capacity,sharpshooter*if available and proficency at 3 for most weapons. Some spare suits. Basic minmando and the meduim amarr roles(logi,assault,all at two points) hm. Might need to check again.
Need a speedy bro scout? Mail me,comes with shotgun and 20 pound bag of catnip for teh clonocide.(teh fak,cannot spell)
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.07.31 18:06:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Joel II X wrote:Then back before it's too late!
In all seriousness, most people would be used to playing assault. It's the most basic of roles simply because it's only to kill stuff wherever, making pushes on enemy lines. The difference between Assaults and other mediums such as the frames and logistics of a small trade off in mobility for increased armor and shields. You also get down to one equipment slot.
Assaults also get a fitting bonus to weapons to fit better modules, and even help their racial rifles and some sidearms.
Scouts are good for solo play only when you get Dampeners. A scanned scout is a dead scout. Go assault. It costs less SP to get into. Scanned doesnt mean dead. Lay a trap. They might know your position but they dont know what you might be packing. Ive had so many situations were i get scanned and the idiot who scans me thinks im an easy target(its always a O.H,or NF guy) goes in thinking im a low ehp scout and hes right. But what he doesnt know is that im packing a shotgun,run 9.64m a second,and have 212 (base amarr scout hp with full armour skill)armour that reps at the adv amour repair level.(adv reps.) Then he thinks he can spray with his combat rifle and get me. Of course as i mentioned,9.64m in a small room. Close the distance with a serpentine appraoch pattern to break the AA hes so reliant on and bam. Dead enemy. Works 80% of the time(sometimes my passives dont pick the guy up and im not ready yet,or its a supertanked amarr assault.)
"getting scanned as a scout doesn't mean you're dead"
Lol okay. Tell that to 15 incoming blueberries. You may kill 10, but you won't get rid of all the bullets and wounds.
Scouts United
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Posted - 2015.07.31 19:48:00 -
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Arcann wrote:What is a good starting build
Should I go Assualt or Scout
Currently leaning towards scout
Star with assault. Unlock armor, shield, Power grid and CPU upgrades and go from there. |
maybe deadcatz
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Posted - 2015.07.31 20:33:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Joel II X wrote:Then back before it's too late!
In all seriousness, most people would be used to playing assault. It's the most basic of roles sim:ply because it's only to kill stuff wherever, making pushes on enemy lines. The difference between Assaults and other mediums such as the frames and logistics of a small trade off in mobility for increased armor and shields. You also get down to one equipment slot.
Assaults also get a fitting bonus to weapons to fit better modules, and even help their racial rifles and some sidearms.
Scouts are good for solo play only when you get Dampeners. A scanned scout is a dead scout. Go assault. It costs less SP to get into. Scanned doesnt mean dead. Lay a trap. They might know your position but they dont know what you might be packing. Ive had so many situations were i get scanned and the idiot who scans me thinks im an easy target(its always a O.H,or NF guy) goes in thinking im a low ehp scout and hes right. But what he doesnt know is that im packing a shotgun,run 9.64m a second,and have 212 (base amarr scout hp with full armour skill)armour that reps at the adv amour repair level.(adv reps.) Then he thinks he can spray with his combat rifle and get me. Of course as i mentioned,9.64m in a small room. Close the distance with a serpentine appraoch pattern to break the AA hes so reliant on and bam. Dead enemy. Works 80% of the time(sometimes my passives dont pick the guy up and im not ready yet,or its a supertanked amarr assault.) "getting scanned as a scout doesn't mean you're dead" Lol okay. Tell that to 15 incoming blueberries. You may kill 10, but you won't get rid of all the bullets and wounds.
Thats what my apex dragon scout's 'hateshard' remote explosives,dual complex kincats,and advanced armour reps are for.
Need a speedy bro scout? Mail me,comes with shotgun and 20 pound bag of catnip for teh clonocide.(teh fak,cannot spell)
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.07.31 21:03:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Joel II X wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Joel II X wrote:Then back before it's too late!
In all seriousness, most people would be used to playing assault. It's the most basic of roles sim:ply because it's only to kill stuff wherever, making pushes on enemy lines. The difference between Assaults and other mediums such as the frames and logistics of a small trade off in mobility for increased armor and shields. You also get down to one equipment slot.
Assaults also get a fitting bonus to weapons to fit better modules, and even help their racial rifles and some sidearms.
Scouts are good for solo play only when you get Dampeners. A scanned scout is a dead scout. Go assault. It costs less SP to get into. Scanned doesnt mean dead. Lay a trap. They might know your position but they dont know what you might be packing. Ive had so many situations were i get scanned and the idiot who scans me thinks im an easy target(its always a O.H,or NF guy) goes in thinking im a low ehp scout and hes right. But what he doesnt know is that im packing a shotgun,run 9.64m a second,and have 212 (base amarr scout hp with full armour skill)armour that reps at the adv amour repair level.(adv reps.) Then he thinks he can spray with his combat rifle and get me. Of course as i mentioned,9.64m in a small room. Close the distance with a serpentine appraoch pattern to break the AA hes so reliant on and bam. Dead enemy. Works 80% of the time(sometimes my passives dont pick the guy up and im not ready yet,or its a supertanked amarr assault.) "getting scanned as a scout doesn't mean you're dead" Lol okay. Tell that to 15 incoming blueberries. You may kill 10, but you won't get rid of all the bullets and wounds. Thats what my apex dragon scout's 'hateshard' remote explosives,dual complex kincats,and advanced armour reps are for.
You know they scan your remotes too  .
Honestly you can damp, have speed and hp while running in a gal scout.
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Posted - 2015.07.31 21:04:00 -
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YUUKI TERUMI wrote:Arcann wrote:What is a good starting build
Should I go Assualt or Scout
Currently leaning towards scout Learn how to use a scout and then do the same with an assault
Lord, if that don't preach.
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maybe deadcatz
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Posted - 2015.07.31 21:20:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Joel II X wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Joel II X wrote:Then back before it's too late!
In all seriousness, most people would be used to playing assault. It's the most basic of roles sim:ply because it's only to kill stuff wherever, making pushes on enemy lines. The difference between Assaults and other mediums such as the frames and logistics of a small trade off in mobility for increased armor and shields. You also get down to one equipment slot.
Assaults also get a fitting bonus to weapons to fit better modules, and even help their racial rifles and some sidearms.
Scouts are good for solo play only when you get Dampeners. A scanned scout is a dead scout. Go assault. It costs less SP to get into. Scanned doesnt mean dead. Lay a trap. They might know your position but they dont know what you might be packing. Ive had so many situations were i get scanned and the idiot who scans me thinks im an easy target(its always a O.H,or NF guy) goes in thinking im a low ehp scout and hes right. But what he doesnt know is that im packing a shotgun,run 9.64m a second,and have 212 (base amarr scout hp with full armour skill)armour that reps at the adv amour repair level.(adv reps.) Then he thinks he can spray with his combat rifle and get me. Of course as i mentioned,9.64m in a small room. Close the distance with a serpentine appraoch pattern to break the AA hes so reliant on and bam. Dead enemy. Works 80% of the time(sometimes my passives dont pick the guy up and im not ready yet,or its a supertanked amarr assault.) "getting scanned as a scout doesn't mean you're dead" Lol okay. Tell that to 15 incoming blueberries. You may kill 10, but you won't get rid of all the bullets and wounds. Thats what my apex dragon scout's 'hateshard' remote explosives,dual complex kincats,and advanced armour reps are for. You know they scan your remotes too . Honestly you can damp, have speed and hp while running in a gal scout.
Decoy remotes. And i would run the gal scout but the allure of the battleskirt and the extra stamina feels better.
And i can fit for a lot of diffrent things.
Need a speedy bro scout? Mail me,comes with shotgun and 20 pound bag of catnip for teh clonocide.(teh fak,cannot spell)
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Varoth Drac
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.07.31 22:47:00 -
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Ok, so on page 1 I suggested shotgun scout as a difficult but rewarding role for a new player. Let me defend this suggestion.
Firstly, I should have said, if you are regularly getting the "you've been scanned" message, switch to a different suit. Consider fitting a profile dampener to keep yourself hidden. Some suits or particularly strong scanners will still scan you however. Also skirmish is a better game mode for scouts.
I still think the role is viable with low sp. Yes, without damps and skills, you will be scanned by proto scanners, Gal logi or otherwise. However, a new player up against a team using proto scanners is unlikely to be able to contribute very much anyway.
Also, if you take into account the success rate of new players, proto scanners are not common enough in pub matches for it to be a problem occasionally switching to another suit, like a frontline for example.
Yes some people will passively scan the player, but again, it's not common enough for scout to be a bad choice.
In many matches a new player could sneak around in a light suit without being scanned.
Also, the shotgun is an excellent weapon for new players. Yes the extreme short range makes it difficult, but the sheer power and alpha, even at militia level, is great for getting kills against the odds. With low sp you don't want to get into a head to head slogging match with a higher sp assault, with more damage and hp, and probably better strafing skill too. Better to shotgun them in the back before they can retaliate. |
mystic 777
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.31 23:00:00 -
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Stick with the militia grade suits for now. The recent patches give you all the available slots to work with.
Focus on your core upgrades (armor / shield / electronics / engineering) and get operation up to level 4 on either Assault or Combat Rifle (or both), and sharpshooter up to 3 on whichever you chose.
You can do weapons first, might be more fun that way just so you can hit your targets easier.
Either way, ONLY after the core upgrades and weapons are leveled up, then you'll begin to realize the potential for the higher tiered suits. Otherwise you'll be wanting to respec in about 3 months after you learn the hard way. |
Arcann
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.31 23:37:00 -
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Thank you all for this valuable information.
Play Assault first and than Scout, after a few million I will play Scout.
Destiny is a lie. Fate is the falsest of hopes. I am beyond prophecy. I forge my own path by making difficult choices.
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maybe deadcatz
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Posted - 2015.07.31 23:43:00 -
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Arcann wrote:Thank you all for this valuable information.
Play Assault first and than Scout, after a few million I will play Scout.
Kixk some proto arse for me. The mancave burned down and the ps3 isnt back from the insurance guys het
Need a speedy bro scout? Mail me,comes with shotgun and 20 pound bag of catnip for teh clonocide.(teh fak,cannot spell)
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