Dust 514. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. You must watch your step.

Did they somehow hack into your account and trade them away when you weren't looking? No? You say you willing selected GIVE item and didn't get what was expected in return? Sorry friend that's not theft. It seriously sucks I agree and CCP should get us a proper trading system asap but let's not go crazy pretending this is something it's not. Next you'll try convincing me that piracy is something other than stealing **** on the high seas.

Between yesterday and today Ive lost 15mil isk and 2 skins. 15 Mil to Ali lol99 and 2 skins to a David L33 who is working wth whiteguy pasty white.

For the person who mistakenly sees this as theft and not fraud (and for the person who has exhausted all options save copy and pasting legal framework). The words "fraud by misrepresentation" came to mind, so I googled it to make sure.

"Fraud by Misrepresentation (or fraudulent misrepresentation) under Section 2 Fraud Act 2006

Section 2 Fraud Act 2006 sets out the framework of the classic fraud offence. The offence usually consists of some sort of dishonest statement made to gain something or so that someone else makes a loss. This offence is one that will often apply to an offence committed in business. The four necessary elements that must be proved in order to result in a conviction are:

A representation must be made
The representation must be known to be false
The representation must be dishonestly made
The person making the representation must intend to gain something, or intend that the person receiving it loses something"

Perhaps we should have an insterstellar court of justice?

and in that universe scamming is a legit form of progression. The mechanic was placed exactly with the intent in mind that players could get scammed and would need to use third parties or other trust systems to trade.

We got the tool to interact with each other - now it's up to us to play nice. That's true sandbox, and fighting against it blows my mind. It's one of the very few things CCP has done right.

No, it's theft. Fraud is a specific form of theft. Scamming is also theft, but in Eve it's specifically allowed, I've not seen such an exemption in any of the Dust Terms of Use allowing it though.

I'd suggest you raise a ticket, there's nothing in the Terms of Service or Rules of Conduct to allow it and if the trade mechanic is broken and is how this was done, then they may return your stuff.

Stuff

This is particularly relevant to this: http://www.buzzfeed.com/jonstone/make-love-not-warcraft#.xqy4xwveny

God I hope that's a joke, as it could have rather frightening implications for EvE in particular, but many other online games....

Of course, if something like this does end up happening, be it in 2 years, 5 years or 10 years then EvE, or whatever takes its place if it's not around any more will probably cry as their customer base of loyal sociopaths evaporates when the first court case comes through. Could be pretty funny.....

Not going to happen. First off, Eve Online is played globally. How will you even convince the country to even charge the player if the developers were the ones that allowed it in the first place? Do you have any idea how many players in Eve steal and scam? You can safely assume almost all of them barring the new players. And even the new players will eventually turn to the dark side of Eve. You will have to practically arrest everyone who plays Eve Online because everything in Eve is tied somehow to real-world cash via the PLEX system.

That's why it would be funny. :) Though to answer your question, the same way Microsoft and Google and Apple keep getting screwed by the EU for unfair business practices/lack of ethics. You operate globally, you have to abide by the laws of the country you're operating it. Don't get me wrong, it would only apply to people from the specific country, I can't see anyone but the US trying for extradition over something like that, but that would just make it funnier.

Like I said, it would be hysterical.

Though I have been playing EvE for over 6 years and I have yet to scam anyone. Ganked a few times. Never scammed.

This thread makes my day, as i have recently settled a fraudulent claims/failure to produce suit involving my farm and the feed mill i used to buy from.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

Fraud at times can be theft, and fraud at times, will not be theft.

As well as theft at times can have fraudulent roots, where as other times is just straight boosting something.

If you have to argue for days about it, i suggest you go to law school.

And finally,

LOLOLOLOLOL.

Law school doesn't teach you jack **** about what happens when you become a victim of scamming and theft in a game that allows it because the devs allow it. We are talking about outliers here. Or as I call it, the grey areas of the video game industry. Is it really punishable in the real world when you commit a crime in a game that clearly allows it like Eve Online? If I were to scam you right now or rob your player corporation's ISK and assets in Eve, will that mean you can file charges against me in the real world court?

Unlike actual real-world farms like you mentioned, laws are not clearly defined when it comes to in-game shenanigans like you see here in Dust or Eve. Even if the law becomes updated later on to make them clearly defined, would the law accommodate for developers who actually allow such shenanigans in their games?