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korrah silain
True Illuminate
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Posted - 2015.06.30 09:54:00 -
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Starlight Burner wrote:korrah silain wrote:Starlight Burner wrote: DUST514 is a Tactical Team based shooter. The ' solo ' mindset in FW & PC is handicapping yourself. That is your own choice of not playing the game with a team.
Right because you can't use scouts SOLO tactically, or coordinate loosly with blueberry's to create flanking positions on the main fight, no tactics require you to be with a squad, go away with your false dichotomy bullschise fallacy. No, because you're suggesting turning FW into a casual fest. Combat in DUST 514 is tactical and squad-based, and rewards you for playing as a team.SourceYou are handicapping yourself for not being a part of a squad or team. No I'm not proposing anything YOU ar proposing changing something and barring PLAYERS from having fun the way they chose.you are proposing an unnecessary elevation of competitiveness to a game that already has a toxicly low player base, and you are ignoring the fact that you ARE ALWAYS ON A TEAM! So let me put it this way: why should the game mode change, how would the game bennifit? If your answer is itz moar competertive! Then just go play pc because it is unfair to bar players who don't WANT that high level of competitiveness from the LP currency system, and if you refuse to acknowledge that you are being intellectually dishonest. |
Starlight Burner
Arrary of Clusters
309
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Posted - 2015.06.30 10:03:00 -
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korrah silain wrote:Starlight Burner wrote:korrah silain wrote:Starlight Burner wrote: DUST514 is a Tactical Team based shooter. The ' solo ' mindset in FW & PC is handicapping yourself. That is your own choice of not playing the game with a team.
Right because you can't use scouts SOLO tactically, or coordinate loosly with blueberry's to create flanking positions on the main fight, no tactics require you to be with a squad, go away with your false dichotomy bullschise fallacy. No, because you're suggesting turning FW into a casual fest. Combat in DUST 514 is tactical and squad-based, and rewards you for playing as a team.SourceYou are handicapping yourself for not being a part of a squad or team. No I'm not proposing anything YOU ar proposing changing something and barring PLAYERS from having fun the way they chose.you are proposing an unnecessary elevation of competitiveness to a game that already has a toxicly low player base, and you are ignoring the fact that you ARE ALWAYS ON A TEAM! So let me put it this way: why should the game mode change, how would the game bennifit? If your answer is itz moar competertive! Then just go play pc because it is unfair to bar players who don't WANT that high level of competitiveness from the LP currency system, and if you refuse to acknowledge that you are being intellectually dishonest. barring PLAYERS from having fun No, as I stated, you can solo but you are handicapping yourself for not working with / being a part of a squad / team.
why should the game mode change FW, in it's current state has many problems. The FW community has politely asked, aggressively asked and demanded multiple changes over 2+ years. Currently, for once, FW is getting touched again. The topic currently is Squad Sizes. Right now, there are teams that are queing into Factional Warfare to earn their reputation amongst x faction, obtain LP, and affect EVE Online. Such teams can be found in but not limited to State Task Force or Lucent Echilion (I think I spelled that wrong? Never joined their chat). These players organize into teams to better coordinate themselves instead of going into a match with randoms who either, do not communicate or want to ' solo '.
how would the game bennifit? Teams and people are willing to squad up and get work done, something you seem to be against, will be able to que up all at once. Not only does this create a easier atmosphere to work in but not only but also includes:
- Not having to back out of a FW match, leaving x side lopsided
- Smoother transition between matches
- Less need for dedicated channels
it is unfair to bar players who don't WANT that high level of competitiveness So, organized teamwork is unfair? Is that what you are claiming?
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deezy dabest
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
2
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Posted - 2015.06.30 10:15:00 -
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Starlight Burner wrote:
it is unfair to bar players who don't WANT that high level of competitiveness So, organized teamwork is unfair? Is that what you are claiming?
Giving a huge benefit to players who already have an advantage to the point of making the game mode unplayable to anyone that does not organize at the exact same level is not balancing anything.
In all seriousness how many game modes are we suppose to have that are exclusive to only people that can organize a 16 man team? Lets just go ahead and lock pubs to 16 people as well and put the game in the ground.
I want organization and I want to be able to play all day when I want to which FW provides. It provides that because anyone is free to join even when they are solo and enter knowing they are probably going to get banged right in the head if they are on the wrong side.
Remove NPC orbitals from FW. -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest.
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Starlight Burner
Arrary of Clusters
309
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Posted - 2015.06.30 10:24:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Starlight Burner wrote:
it is unfair to bar players who don't WANT that high level of competitiveness So, organized teamwork is unfair? Is that what you are claiming?
Giving a huge benefit to players who already have an advantage to the point of making the game mode unplayable to anyone that does not organize at the exact same level is not balancing anything. In all seriousness how many game modes are we suppose to have that are exclusive to only people that can organize a 16 man team? Lets just go ahead and lock pubs to 16 people as well and put the game in the ground. I want organization and I want to be able to play all day when I want to which FW provides. It provides that because anyone is free to join even when they are solo and enter knowing they are probably going to get banged right in the head if they are on the wrong side. Game modes protecting unorganized players:
- Skirmish
- Ambush
- Domination
- Acquisition
Games modes with unprotected safety for unorganized players:
- Factional Warfare
- Planetary Conquest
Exactly how much of DUST514 do you want to be casually ' soloable ' without a team or coordinately working together? Because what you're asking for, is barring out the option for players to do what the game is designed for. DUST 514 is tactical and squad-based, and rewards you for playing as a team.Source
Once you're ready to step into Factional Warfare or Planetary Conquest, you as the player, must understand that you are entering a higher level of competition. Which, for your own sake, you will squad up with others and eventually form a team and counter your enemy. Thus, promoting more team / squad work and helps lead to ' End Game Content ' being Planetary Conquest.
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korrah silain
True Illuminate
84
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Posted - 2015.06.30 10:27:00 -
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Starlight Burner wrote:korrah silain wrote:Starlight Burner wrote:korrah silain wrote:Starlight Burner wrote: DUST514 is a Tactical Team based shooter. The ' solo ' mindset in FW & PC is handicapping yourself. That is your own choice of not playing the game with a team.
Right because you can't use scouts SOLO tactically, or coordinate loosly with blueberry's to create flanking positions on the main fight, no tactics require you to be with a squad, go away with your false dichotomy bullschise fallacy. No, because you're suggesting turning FW into a casual fest. Combat in DUST 514 is tactical and squad-based, and rewards you for playing as a team.SourceYou are handicapping yourself for not being a part of a squad or team. No I'm not proposing anything YOU ar proposing changing something and barring PLAYERS from having fun the way they chose.you are proposing an unnecessary elevation of competitiveness to a game that already has a toxicly low player base, and you are ignoring the fact that you ARE ALWAYS ON A TEAM! So let me put it this way: why should the game mode change, how would the game bennifit? If your answer is itz moar competertive! Then just go play pc because it is unfair to bar players who don't WANT that high level of competitiveness from the LP currency system, and if you refuse to acknowledge that you are being intellectually dishonest. barring PLAYERS from having funNo, as I stated, you can solo but you are handicapping yourself for not working with / being a part of a squad / team. why should the game mode change
FW, in it's current state has many problems. The FW community has politely asked, aggressively asked and demanded multiple changes over 2+ years. Currently, for once, FW is getting touched again. The topic currently is Squad Sizes. Right now, there are teams that are queing into Factional Warfare to earn their reputation amongst x faction, obtain LP, and affect EVE Online. Such teams can be found in but not limited to State Task Force or Lucent Echilion (I think I spelled that wrong? Never joined their chat). These players organize into teams to better coordinate themselves instead of going into a match with randoms who either, do not communicate or want to ' solo '. how would the game bennifit?Teams and people are willing to squad up and get work done, something you seem to be against, will be able to que up all at once. Not only does this create a easier atmosphere to work in but not only but also includes:
- Not having to back out of a FW match, leaving x side lopsided
- Smoother transition between matches
- Less need for dedicated channels
it is unfair to bar players who don't WANT that high level of competitiveness So, organized teamwork is unfair? Is that what you are claiming? no what i am claiming is that i have apprehensions that this will lead to a mentality simmaler to pcs:run proto run full squads or be stomped mercilessly. this is fine for pc because territorry, etc, hell i would have no problem with it in fw if fw wasnt the only way to earn lp, but it is. ergo you are running the risk of putting that content behind another high wall of performance, which is one of the things keeping this game from building a playerbase.
i would also like to point out that the smoother transitions and less need for dedicated channels arguments are concerns that only really apply to squads, and the not having to back out argument could be fixed in different ways i am sure. those two points illustrate that you are entirely unconcerned with pushing other players out of content. anyway its late here i will come back when im more capable of elloquence. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.06.30 10:28:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:
I want organization and I want to be able to play all day when I want to which FW provides. It provides that because anyone is free to join even when they are solo and enter knowing they are probably going to get banged right in the head if they are on the wrong side.
In some respects this is exactly why Dust should never really have an impact on EVE FW for any reason. We're just likely to **** it up for them.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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Starlight Burner
Arrary of Clusters
309
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Posted - 2015.06.30 10:34:00 -
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@Korrah entirely unconcerned with pushing other players out of content. anyway its late here i will come back when im more capable of elloquence.
That is correct. If you, the player, are not wanting to achieve a higher level of reward which require you to try more or cooperate with others, then this game mode is not for you.
Just like in EVE Online, if I want State Protectorate things from their LP store, I can only earn that LP by being enlisted in FW and doing FW things. Unfortunatly, I can not earn State Protectorate LP because my corporation is not enlisted, nor will be enlisted in the near future, into Caldari Factional Warfare.
With this PC Kredits thing coming, there might be things I want from the PC store; however, since i choose not to participate in PC, I will never earn or be able to get such things from the store.
Your argument of barring out players based on that statement, is invalid.
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korrah silain
True Illuminate
85
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Posted - 2015.06.30 10:45:00 -
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Starlight Burner wrote:@Korrah entirely unconcerned with pushing other players out of content. anyway its late here i will come back when im more capable of elloquence.
That is correct. If you, the player, are not wanting to achieve a higher level of reward which require you to try more or cooperate with others, then this game mode is not for you.
Just like in EVE Online, if I want State Protectorate things from their LP store, I can only earn that LP by being enlisted in FW and doing FW things. Unfortunatly, I can not earn State Protectorate LP because my corporation is not enlisted, nor will be enlisted in the near future, into Caldari Factional Warfare.
With this PC Kredits thing coming, there might be things I want from the PC store; however, since i choose not to participate in PC, I will never earn or be able to get such things from the store.
Your argument of barring out players based on that statement, is invalid. ok i lied, last post. it is not invalid because eve and dust are two completely different games, in eve you can circumvent such limitations by becoming a merchant, or miner, or whatever the hell and trading with other players, in dust we have three game modes, and so very few players, if we push enough into a tiny limiting corner of pubs(who cant gain access to the full spectrum of equipment) they will just leave, especially considering that limitation doesnt go both ways, allowing people who do squad to get dirt cheap proto gear and stomp in pubs leading to frustration and exodus. what im saying is dont compare this tiny game with limited content to eve because thats ******* munchingly stupid. ugh i had another point but...ugh i cant remember right now...
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J0LLY R0G3R
Negative-Feedback.
3
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Posted - 2015.06.30 13:36:00 -
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Lol XD
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
6
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Posted - 2015.06.30 14:02:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Good. More people for pubs and PC.
Get it in your head. FW ain't PC. Why do you want to make it as competetive as PC? FW IS competetive in EVE, and since Dust FW matches can have a huge impact on system capture in EVE, I think it's quite reasonable to want to take it more seriously than it is taken now.
You do realize that the lack of an organized Caldari channel for several months meant that every time the Caldari Militia would attempt to take a system in EVE, the match-generating script in Dust would put most of the Caldari-Gallente matches there, and the more organized Gallente teams would win over and over?
This puts the Planetary Capture modifier deep into the negatives and makes it absolutely impossible to capture a system before the Gallente Militia puts a small gang together and runs them out.
Dust FW mechanics are actually HARMING FW participation in EVE, guys.
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.06.30 15:58:00 -
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Everybody argues. Nice. Something's happening.
Again, FW already due to qsyncs is limited to a small group. But you can still go in there solo/in a small squad. Won't 8 man squad be enough? People will qsync anyway because they enjoy free and easy LP.
People don't understand that PC should be the place where you take things seriously. It's limited by time. It's supposed to be that.
You're trying to make from FW a PC. Gamemode available only to a certain group. How are new players suppose to get their LP items, cheaper gear and APEX suits if they won't be capable of doing anything in FW due to qsyncs/team deploy?
Now they can be put in a fair battle. Not always, but also it's not impossible. With team deploy newer players, solo players, players from smaller squads wouldn't be able to win in FW. FW would more than now turn into : join a platoon or never queue for it.
In conclusion. FW should be semi-competetive. It should demand more than from pubs but not as much as PC does. There's no place for newer/not as good players in PC. Do you want FW to be like this? Available only to better players?
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Member of State Protectorate //
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
11
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Posted - 2015.06.30 16:24:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Mejt0 wrote:Good. More people for pubs and PC.
Get it in your head. FW ain't PC. Why do you want to make it as competetive as PC? FW IS competetive in EVE, and since Dust FW matches can have a huge impact on system capture in EVE, I think it's quite reasonable to want to take it more seriously than it is taken now. You do realize that the lack of an organized Caldari channel for several months meant that every time the Caldari Militia would attempt to take a system in EVE, the match-generating script in Dust would put most of the Caldari-Gallente matches there, and the more organized Gallente teams would win over and over? This puts the Planetary Capture modifier deep into the negatives and makes it absolutely impossible to capture a system before the Gallente Militia puts a small gang together and runs them out. Dust FW mechanics are actually HARMING FW participation in EVE, guys. Dont say EVE. Do you know how much DUST players and Rattati shriek in fear whenever you say EVE?
Instead, just propose the things and when they finally get implemented, then tell them is was inspired by EVE. Hearts will be consumed in fear at the very thought.
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.06.30 16:27:00 -
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I dont care about those neckbeards who play eve like if it is a religion.
Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
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Starlight Burner
Arrary of Clusters
310
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Posted - 2015.06.30 17:05:00 -
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korrah silain wrote:Starlight Burner wrote:@Korrah Stuff ok i lied, last post. it is not invalid because eve and dust are two completely different games, in eve you can circumvent such limitations by becoming a merchant, or miner, or whatever the hell and trading with other players, in dust we have three game modes, and so very few players, if we push enough into a tiny limiting corner of pubs(who cant gain access to the full spectrum of equipment) they will just leave, especially considering that limitation doesnt go both ways, allowing people who do squad to get dirt cheap proto gear and stomp in pubs leading to frustration and exodus. what im saying is dont compare this tiny game with limited content to eve because thats ******* munchingly stupid. ugh i had another point but...ugh i cant remember right now... Not true, you trade or buy that said gear for isk. Once again, it's you, the player, fault for not squadding up and / or cooperating with a squad / team against the enemy. So, because you choose not to work with others, your statement is still invalid.
You are handicapping only yourself to prevent you from reaching a obtainable goal.
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Starlight Burner
Arrary of Clusters
310
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Posted - 2015.06.30 17:07:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote: FW should be semi-competetive. It should demand more than from pubs but not as much as PC does. There's no place for newer/not as good players in PC. Do you want FW to be like this? Available only to better players?
Team Deploy in FW is not preventing only allowing better players. It does the opposite and encourages people to squad and work as a team more.
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Balistyc Farshot
MONSTER SYNERGY
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Posted - 2015.06.30 17:27:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:danthrax martin wrote:... And everyone thought VAHZZ was weird... Oh, i love you, you think this is weirder than me... Oh the things i could show you...
Vahzz! Pants back on! There are children. That's not loco, that's being cavalier with your finances and not getting your free desert. Loco Vahzz
"Dying with your rep tool out - the logi-flasher!"
Who hasn't been caught by a cute little female scout doing this?
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Squagga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
837
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Posted - 2015.06.30 17:55:00 -
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I can't believe this is three pages long. I didn't even read the last two. Throwing tantrums isn't usually the best way, to get what you want. We'll probably get this for FW soon anyways
Shields, the silent killer.
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VAHZZ
Corrosive Synergy No Context
3
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Posted - 2015.06.30 18:07:00 -
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Balistyc Farshot wrote:VAHZZ wrote:danthrax martin wrote:... And everyone thought VAHZZ was weird... Oh, i love you, you think this is weirder than me... Oh the things i could show you... Vahzz! Pants back on! There are children. That's not loco, that's being cavalier with your finances and not getting your free desert. Loco Vahzz
YOU WANT LOCO!!?! HUH!? I will show you loco, and I will rock the very foundation of your comprehension on the word!! I will show you!! All your shitt are belong to us!! Fire up the python fudgers, we are going to crazy town. LLAST I DEMAND THE CALL BE MADE! |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
2
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Posted - 2015.06.30 18:21:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:Balistyc Farshot wrote:VAHZZ wrote:danthrax martin wrote:... And everyone thought VAHZZ was weird... Oh, i love you, you think this is weirder than me... Oh the things i could show you... Vahzz! Pants back on! There are children. That's not loco, that's being cavalier with your finances and not getting your free desert. Loco Vahzz YOU WANT LOCO!!?! HUH!? I will show you loco, and I will rock the very foundation of your comprehension on the word!! I will show you!! All your shitt are belong to us!! Fire up the python fudgers, we are going to crazy town. LLAST I DEMAND THE CALL BE MADE!
Drop that OB Llast....drop it.... |
Balistyc Farshot
MONSTER SYNERGY
245
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Posted - 2015.06.30 18:37:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:VAHZZ wrote:Balistyc Farshot wrote:VAHZZ wrote:danthrax martin wrote:... And everyone thought VAHZZ was weird... Oh, i love you, you think this is weirder than me... Oh the things i could show you... Vahzz! Pants back on! There are children. That's not loco, that's being cavalier with your finances and not getting your free desert. Loco Vahzz YOU WANT LOCO!!?! HUH!? I will show you loco, and I will rock the very foundation of your comprehension on the word!! I will show you!! All your shitt are belong to us!! Fire up the python fudgers, we are going to crazy town. LLAST I DEMAND THE CALL BE MADE! Drop that OB Llast....drop it....
Hey, Tunnel Snakes Rule! Keep those dirty fudge pythons away from here!
BTW - I feel sorry for DAAA Beast. If you get a mic those PCs will get real fun. You just need CatMerc to turn it to 11
"Dying with your rep tool out - the logi-flasher!"
Who hasn't been caught by a cute little female scout doing this?
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2015.06.30 19:11:00 -
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Dropped
RELEASE THE VAHZZ
MOAR Ladders
SpadeGǪ Remember your Warbarge
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VAHZZ
Corrosive Synergy No Context
3
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Posted - 2015.06.30 19:12:00 -
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Balistyc Farshot wrote: BTW - I feel sorry for DAAA Beast. If you get a mic those PCs will get real fun. You just need CatMerc to turn it to 11
Beast: "Vahzz! Quit singing Shake It Off in Gollums voice and get that point!" Me: "Baby I'm just gonna shake, shake, shake. Shake it Off, Shake it Off. Whooo whooo WHOOOOO!" vahzz (shotgun) stupid red +50
We are hacking the Clone Reanimation Unit.
We are hacking objective blahblahblah
Me: " I never miss a beat! Mm mm I am lighting up my feeet! Uh huh Im lighting up those feeets! Uh huh"
EDIT: FINALLY! LOCO TIME! |
VAHZZ
Corrosive Synergy No Context
3
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Posted - 2015.06.30 19:35:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Dropped RELEASE THE VAHZZ
*the silence before the storm*.... |
Balistyc Farshot
MONSTER SYNERGY
248
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Posted - 2015.06.30 20:34:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:Balistyc Farshot wrote: BTW - I feel sorry for DAAA Beast. If you get a mic those PCs will get real fun. You just need CatMerc to turn it to 11
Beast: "Vahzz! Quit singing Shake It Off in Gollums voice and get that point!" Me: "Baby I'm just gonna shake, shake, shake. Shake it Off, Shake it Off. Whooo whooo WHOOOOO!" vahzz (shotgun) stupid red +50 We are hacking the Clone Reanimation Unit. We are hacking objective blahblahblah Me: " I never miss a beat! Mm mm I am lighting up my feeet! Uh huh Im lighting up those feeets! Uh huh" EDIT: FINALLY! LOCO TIME!
This ^^ needs to be in your recruitment thread! I am going to have to figure out how to get Monster Synergy to hang with Corrosive Synergy!
"Dying with your rep tool out - the logi-flasher!"
Who hasn't been caught by a cute little female scout doing this?
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2015.06.30 21:03:00 -
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/still queues into FW
Remember, I'm on the fence on the subject.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.06.30 22:56:00 -
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I support this demonstration. Will signal my friends to consider the same as well.
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.06.30 23:29:00 -
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korrah silain wrote:
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Mmmmmkay here's the thing though If you do that you are effectivly barring people who prefer to play solo, or just feel like soloing from aquiring lps. That's a problem as that is the only way to aquire lps. If you do this you may as well make team deploy a requirement for fw. Do ya see how that kinda...alienates some people?
Now why do people think that having a FW team deploy OPTION would forbid solo players from entering FW entirely???
Because no one to my knowledge has suggested it to be a requirement, before this person above sarcastically trying to smear the team possibility.
True, a solo player won't fit on side A if Side A is already full so the queue times can be longer. But that can happen already with q-syncing teams and even in cases of solo players filling up side A. Solo player CAN still queue and be searching for next match.
The big questions which I urge anti-teamsters to answer: What is wrong in the system which puts full FW team A vs full FW team B???
Because that would mean the solo players wouldn't be primarily going against full teams (or qsyncs as it is currently!)
Wouldn't that what solo players would truly want - a FW game which consists of 14+ soloers on BOTH sides???
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Balistyc Farshot
MONSTER SYNERGY
248
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Posted - 2015.07.01 14:09:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:korrah silain wrote:
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Mmmmmkay here's the thing though If you do that you are effectivly barring people who prefer to play solo, or just feel like soloing from aquiring lps. That's a problem as that is the only way to aquire lps. If you do this you may as well make team deploy a requirement for fw. Do ya see how that kinda...alienates some people?
Now why do people think that having a FW team deploy OPTION would forbid solo players from entering FW entirely???Because no one to my knowledge has suggested it to be a requirement, before this person above sarcastically trying to smear the team possibility. True, a solo player won't fit on side A if Side A is already full so the queue times can be longer. But that can happen already with q-syncing teams and even in cases of solo players filling up side A. Solo player CAN still queue and be searching for next match. The big questions which I urge anti-teamsters to answer: What is wrong in the system which puts full FW team A vs full FW team B???Because that would mean the solo players wouldn't be primarily going against full teams (or qsyncs as it is currently!) Wouldn't that what solo players would truly want - a FW game which consists of 14+ soloers on BOTH sides???
Woah woah! You and your logic get out of here. You are going to make the anti-teamsters come in here and cry.
The anti-teamsters don't realize that even the big FW channels need fill ins. It is never a perfect 16. But they are so scared due to the PC model and the STUPID RINGERS! (Yes that is the problem), they think the same thing will happen in FW. LP isn't worth enough for that to happen. As long as the payout is low and KDR is not guaranteed, FW with 16 merc deploys would not be a problem. There is no incentive!!!!
Agree to this or I get the real teamsters union to come break your legs.
"Dying with your rep tool out - the logi-flasher!"
Who hasn't been caught by a cute little female scout doing this?
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The KTM DuKe
0uter.Heaven
394
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Posted - 2015.07.01 14:33:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Im calling for all players who are actively playing FW. We have to show everyone that we the organised players are the ones that should be heard. We are so close to get team deploy but yet we wont get it cause of some forum warriors posting against it. They argue for the solo players in FW but i say screw them! Together we can show whos really in charge of FW cause we the people who organise to get this whole thing every day kickstarted are those that should be listen to.
So my call is very simple: stop playing FW, do not kickstart it, let the timer stay on 0:00 for all four factions. Without us the Q-Syncers it wouldnt be up in the first place. We have a powerfull tool at our hands and that is denial of FW matches so that the solo palyers are exposed as that what they are and that is cannonfodder and generally beeing useless. Dont play any FW matches for 2 days that should make it clear that we want Platoons to be aible to join FW matches.
If you are a CEO of a corp or even a alliance leader who supports this then send out a mail to your corp/alliance members to notify them to not kickstart FW. I know that im asking alot with this but we have to give CCP a signal from within the game that what they are doing is wrong.
A fair time span should be from tomorrows downtime till the 2nd of july (thursday) . Wow, you act like a hero, the funniest thing is that a turbopad user is tryng to balance a game, it s like put a terrorist as defence leader of a country under attack. Oh nevermind my country is already at it
The official commando points farmer of 0uter.Heaven ; I don't need team deploy for FW.
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ColdBlooded Max
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2015.07.01 14:38:00 -
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just stop playing the game and maybe they will fix's it ? |
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