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korrah silain
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Posted - 2015.06.30 08:37:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Im calling for all players who are actively playing FW. We have to show everyone that we the organised players are the ones that should be heard. We are so close to get team deploy but yet we wont get it cause of some forum warriors posting against it. They argue for the solo players in FW but i say screw them! Together we can show whos really in charge of FW cause we the people who organise to get this whole thing every day kickstarted are those that should be listen to.
So my call is very simple:
stop playing FW, do not kickstart it, let the timer stay on 0:00 for all four factions. Without us the Q-Syncers it wouldnt be up in the first place. We have a powerfull tool at our hands and that is denial of FW matches so that the solo palyers are exposed as that what they are and that is cannonfodder and generally beeing useless. Dont play any FW matches for 2 days that should make it clear that we want Platoons to be aible to join FW matches.
If you are a CEO of a corp or even a alliance leader who supports this then send out a mail to your corp/alliance members to notify them to not kickstart FW. I know that im asking alot with this but we have to give CCP a signal from within the game that what they are doing is wrong.
A fair time span should be from tomorrows downtime till the 2nd of july (thursday) .
I AGREE THE WAY I PLAY THE GAME IS THE ONLY VALID WAY TO HAVE FUN PLAYING! EVERYONE ELSE IS PLAYING WRONG MY SQUADDIE BROTHERS WE MUST RISE UP AGAINST THOSE WHO HAVE THE AUDACITY TO ENJOY PLAYING SOLO! THEYBARE HERETICS, AND THEY ARE WRONG! THE LIGHT OF TRUE FUN MUST BE FOISTED UPON THEM AND IF THEY REFUSE TO OPEN THEIR EYES TO THIS WORDERFUL PURE LIGHT, WE MUSG BANISH THEM TO THE PITS OF THE PUBS, AND BAR THEM FROM LOYALTY STORE EQUIPMENT FOR TEY ARE CLEARLY UNDEAERVING AND WRONG, AND DO NOT KNOW HOW TO APPRECIATE THIS GAME AS IT IS MEANT TO BE PLAYED! RISE MY BROTHERS
*note the preceding was sarcastic commentary on the op* |
korrah silain
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Posted - 2015.06.30 08:52:00 -
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Starlight Burner wrote:Mejt0 wrote:Good. More people for pubs and PC.
Get it in your head. FW ain't PC. Why do you want to make it as competetive as PC? FW is better than PC for some people like me?
Meaning..? |
korrah silain
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Posted - 2015.06.30 09:00:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:korrah silain wrote:Starlight Burner wrote:Mejt0 wrote:Good. More people for pubs and PC.
Get it in your head. FW ain't PC. Why do you want to make it as competetive as PC? FW is better than PC for some people like me? Meaning..? I can only speak for myself but I have the same feeling that FW is already better than and can be far better than PC. How can anyone really vest interest in 1 - 2 battles a day that happen at a certain time and if you are not able to be on at that time you have nothing else. Staking the entire game experience on a hour or so a day at a scheduled time seems a bit odd to me.
Mmmmmkay here's the thing though If you do that you are effectivly barring people who prefer to play solo, or just feel like soloing from aquiring lps. That's a problem as that is the only way to aquire lps.
If you do this you may as well make team deploy a requirement for fw. Do ya see how that kinda...alienates some people? |
korrah silain
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Posted - 2015.06.30 09:10:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:
There has been some miscommunication here.
The first quote was saying pretty close to the same thing you are saying that FW should not be like PC and should be open to people. My mistake for not really seeing what you were asking there.
Ah yes well then glad I didn't get too snarky then lol
What I really was asking was his meaning of "people like me" |
korrah silain
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Posted - 2015.06.30 09:44:00 -
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Starlight Burner wrote:
DUST514 is a Tactical Team based shooter. The ' solo ' mindset in FW & PC is handicapping yourself. That is your own choice of not playing the game with a team.
Right because you can't use scouts SOLO tactically, or coordinate loosly with blueberry's to create flanking positions on the main fight, no tactics require you to be with a squad, go away with your false dichotomy bullschise fallacy. |
korrah silain
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Posted - 2015.06.30 09:54:00 -
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Starlight Burner wrote:korrah silain wrote:Starlight Burner wrote:
DUST514 is a Tactical Team based shooter. The ' solo ' mindset in FW & PC is handicapping yourself. That is your own choice of not playing the game with a team.
Right because you can't use scouts SOLO tactically, or coordinate loosly with blueberry's to create flanking positions on the main fight, no tactics require you to be with a squad, go away with your false dichotomy bullschise fallacy. No, because you're suggesting turning FW into a casual fest. Combat in DUST 514 is tactical and squad-based, and rewards you for playing as a team.SourceYou are handicapping yourself for not being a part of a squad or team.
No I'm not proposing anything YOU ar proposing changing something and barring PLAYERS from having fun the way they chose.you are proposing an unnecessary elevation of competitiveness to a game that already has a toxicly low player base, and you are ignoring the fact that you ARE ALWAYS ON A TEAM!
So let me put it this way: why should the game mode change, how would the game bennifit? If your answer is itz moar competertive! Then just go play pc because it is unfair to bar players who don't WANT that high level of competitiveness from the LP currency system, and if you refuse to acknowledge that you are being intellectually dishonest. |
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Posted - 2015.06.30 10:27:00 -
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Starlight Burner wrote:korrah silain wrote:Starlight Burner wrote:korrah silain wrote:Starlight Burner wrote:
DUST514 is a Tactical Team based shooter. The ' solo ' mindset in FW & PC is handicapping yourself. That is your own choice of not playing the game with a team.
Right because you can't use scouts SOLO tactically, or coordinate loosly with blueberry's to create flanking positions on the main fight, no tactics require you to be with a squad, go away with your false dichotomy bullschise fallacy. No, because you're suggesting turning FW into a casual fest. Combat in DUST 514 is tactical and squad-based, and rewards you for playing as a team.SourceYou are handicapping yourself for not being a part of a squad or team. No I'm not proposing anything YOU ar proposing changing something and barring PLAYERS from having fun the way they chose.you are proposing an unnecessary elevation of competitiveness to a game that already has a toxicly low player base, and you are ignoring the fact that you ARE ALWAYS ON A TEAM! So let me put it this way: why should the game mode change, how would the game bennifit? If your answer is itz moar competertive! Then just go play pc because it is unfair to bar players who don't WANT that high level of competitiveness from the LP currency system, and if you refuse to acknowledge that you are being intellectually dishonest. barring PLAYERS from having funNo, as I stated, you can solo but you are handicapping yourself for not working with / being a part of a squad / team. why should the game mode change
FW, in it's current state has many problems. The FW community has politely asked, aggressively asked and demanded multiple changes over 2+ years. Currently, for once, FW is getting touched again. The topic currently is Squad Sizes. Right now, there are teams that are queing into Factional Warfare to earn their reputation amongst x faction, obtain LP, and affect EVE Online. Such teams can be found in but not limited to State Task Force or Lucent Echilion (I think I spelled that wrong? Never joined their chat). These players organize into teams to better coordinate themselves instead of going into a match with randoms who either, do not communicate or want to ' solo '. how would the game bennifit?Teams and people are willing to squad up and get work done, something you seem to be against, will be able to que up all at once. Not only does this create a easier atmosphere to work in but not only but also includes:
- Not having to back out of a FW match, leaving x side lopsided
- Smoother transition between matches
- Less need for dedicated channels
it is unfair to bar players who don't WANT that high level of competitiveness So, organized teamwork is unfair? Is that what you are claiming?
no what i am claiming is that i have apprehensions that this will lead to a mentality simmaler to pcs:run proto run full squads or be stomped mercilessly. this is fine for pc because territorry, etc, hell i would have no problem with it in fw if fw wasnt the only way to earn lp, but it is. ergo you are running the risk of putting that content behind another high wall of performance, which is one of the things keeping this game from building a playerbase.
i would also like to point out that the smoother transitions and less need for dedicated channels arguments are concerns that only really apply to squads, and the not having to back out argument could be fixed in different ways i am sure. those two points illustrate that you are entirely unconcerned with pushing other players out of content. anyway its late here i will come back when im more capable of elloquence. |
korrah silain
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Posted - 2015.06.30 10:45:00 -
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Starlight Burner wrote:@Korrah
entirely unconcerned with pushing other players out of content. anyway its late here i will come back when im more capable of elloquence.
That is correct. If you, the player, are not wanting to achieve a higher level of reward which require you to try more or cooperate with others, then this game mode is not for you.
Just like in EVE Online, if I want State Protectorate things from their LP store, I can only earn that LP by being enlisted in FW and doing FW things. Unfortunatly, I can not earn State Protectorate LP because my corporation is not enlisted, nor will be enlisted in the near future, into Caldari Factional Warfare.
With this PC Kredits thing coming, there might be things I want from the PC store; however, since i choose not to participate in PC, I will never earn or be able to get such things from the store.
Your argument of barring out players based on that statement, is invalid.
ok i lied, last post.
it is not invalid because eve and dust are two completely different games, in eve you can circumvent such limitations by becoming a merchant, or miner, or whatever the hell and trading with other players, in dust we have three game modes, and so very few players, if we push enough into a tiny limiting corner of pubs(who cant gain access to the full spectrum of equipment) they will just leave, especially considering that limitation doesnt go both ways, allowing people who do squad to get dirt cheap proto gear and stomp in pubs leading to frustration and exodus. what im saying is dont compare this tiny game with limited content to eve because thats ******* munchingly stupid. ugh i had another point but...ugh i cant remember right now...
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