DUST Search - To all FW players: stop playing FW if you want team deploy!

korrah silain wrote:

Starlight Burner wrote:

korrah silain wrote:

Starlight Burner wrote:

DUST514 is a Tactical Team based shooter. The ' solo ' mindset in FW & PC is handicapping yourself. That is your own choice of not playing the game with a team.

Right because you can't use scouts SOLO tactically, or coordinate loosly with blueberry's to create flanking positions on the main fight, no tactics require you to be with a squad, go away with your false dichotomy bullschise fallacy.

No, because you're suggesting turning FW into a casual fest.

Combat in DUST 514 is tactical and squad-based, and rewards you for playing as a team.Source

You are handicapping yourself for not being a part of a squad or team.

No I'm not proposing anything YOU ar proposing changing something and barring PLAYERS from having fun the way they chose.you are proposing an unnecessary elevation of competitiveness to a game that already has a toxicly low player base, and you are ignoring the fact that you ARE ALWAYS ON A TEAM!
So let me put it this way: why should the game mode change, how would the game bennifit? If your answer is itz moar competertive! Then just go play pc because it is unfair to bar players who don't WANT that high level of competitiveness from the LP currency system, and if you refuse to acknowledge that you are being intellectually dishonest.


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Starlight Burner Arrary of Clusters 307	Posted - 2015.06.30 08:51:00 - [1] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Good. More people for pubs and PC. Get it in your head. FW ain't PC. Why do you want to make it as competetive as PC? FW is better than PC for some people like me? CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today! Thank you for DUST
Starlight Burner Arrary of Clusters 308	Posted - 2015.06.30 09:27:00 - [2] - Quote korrah silain wrote: deezy dabest wrote: korrah silain wrote: Starlight Burner wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Good. More people for pubs and PC. Get it in your head. FW ain't PC. Why do you want to make it as competetive as PC? FW is better than PC for some people like me? Meaning..? I can only speak for myself but I have the same feeling that FW is already better than and can be far better than PC. How can anyone really vest interest in 1 - 2 battles a day that happen at a certain time and if you are not able to be on at that time you have nothing else. Staking the entire game experience on a hour or so a day at a scheduled time seems a bit odd to me. Mmmmmkay here's the thing though If you do that you are effectivly barring people who prefer to play solo, or just feel like soloing from aquiring lps. That's a problem as that is the only way to aquire lps. If you do this you may as well make team deploy a requirement for fw. Do ya see how that kinda...alienates some people? DUST514 is a Tactical Team based shooter. The ' solo ' mindset in FW & PC is handicapping yourself. That is your own choice of not playing the game with a team. CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today! Thank you for DUST
Starlight Burner Arrary of Clusters 309	Posted - 2015.06.30 09:48:00 - [3] - Quote korrah silain wrote: Starlight Burner wrote: DUST514 is a Tactical Team based shooter. The ' solo ' mindset in FW & PC is handicapping yourself. That is your own choice of not playing the game with a team. Right because you can't use scouts SOLO tactically, or coordinate loosly with blueberry's to create flanking positions on the main fight, no tactics require you to be with a squad, go away with your false dichotomy bullschise fallacy. No, because you're suggesting turning FW into a casual fest. Combat in DUST 514 is tactical and squad-based, and rewards you for playing as a team.Source You are handicapping yourself for not being a part of a squad or team. CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today! Thank you for DUST
Starlight Burner Arrary of Clusters 309	Posted - 2015.06.30 10:03:00 - [4] - Quote korrah silain wrote: Starlight Burner wrote: korrah silain wrote: Starlight Burner wrote: DUST514 is a Tactical Team based shooter. The ' solo ' mindset in FW & PC is handicapping yourself. That is your own choice of not playing the game with a team. Right because you can't use scouts SOLO tactically, or coordinate loosly with blueberry's to create flanking positions on the main fight, no tactics require you to be with a squad, go away with your false dichotomy bullschise fallacy. No, because you're suggesting turning FW into a casual fest. Combat in DUST 514 is tactical and squad-based, and rewards you for playing as a team.Source You are handicapping yourself for not being a part of a squad or team. No I'm not proposing anything YOU ar proposing changing something and barring PLAYERS from having fun the way they chose.you are proposing an unnecessary elevation of competitiveness to a game that already has a toxicly low player base, and you are ignoring the fact that you ARE ALWAYS ON A TEAM! So let me put it this way: why should the game mode change, how would the game bennifit? If your answer is itz moar competertive! Then just go play pc because it is unfair to bar players who don't WANT that high level of competitiveness from the LP currency system, and if you refuse to acknowledge that you are being intellectually dishonest. barring PLAYERS from having fun No, as I stated, you can solo but you are handicapping yourself for not working with / being a part of a squad / team. why should the game mode change FW, in it's current state has many problems. The FW community has politely asked, aggressively asked and demanded multiple changes over 2+ years. Currently, for once, FW is getting touched again. The topic currently is Squad Sizes. Right now, there are teams that are queing into Factional Warfare to earn their reputation amongst x faction, obtain LP, and affect EVE Online. Such teams can be found in but not limited to State Task Force or Lucent Echilion (I think I spelled that wrong? Never joined their chat). These players organize into teams to better coordinate themselves instead of going into a match with randoms who either, do not communicate or want to ' solo '. how would the game bennifit? Teams and people are willing to squad up and get work done, something you seem to be against, will be able to que up all at once. Not only does this create a easier atmosphere to work in but not only but also includes: Not having to back out of a FW match, leaving x side lopsided Smoother transition between matches Less need for dedicated channels it is unfair to bar players who don't WANT that high level of competitiveness So, organized teamwork is unfair? Is that what you are claiming? CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today! Thank you for DUST
Starlight Burner Arrary of Clusters 309	Posted - 2015.06.30 10:24:00 - [5] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Starlight Burner wrote: it is unfair to bar players who don't WANT that high level of competitiveness So, organized teamwork is unfair? Is that what you are claiming? Giving a huge benefit to players who already have an advantage to the point of making the game mode unplayable to anyone that does not organize at the exact same level is not balancing anything. In all seriousness how many game modes are we suppose to have that are exclusive to only people that can organize a 16 man team? Lets just go ahead and lock pubs to 16 people as well and put the game in the ground. I want organization and I want to be able to play all day when I want to which FW provides. It provides that because anyone is free to join even when they are solo and enter knowing they are probably going to get banged right in the head if they are on the wrong side. Game modes protecting unorganized players: Skirmish Ambush Domination Acquisition Games modes with unprotected safety for unorganized players: Factional Warfare Planetary Conquest Exactly how much of DUST514 do you want to be casually ' soloable ' without a team or coordinately working together? Because what you're asking for, is barring out the option for players to do what the game is designed for. DUST 514 is tactical and squad-based, and rewards you for playing as a team.Source Once you're ready to step into Factional Warfare or Planetary Conquest, you as the player, must understand that you are entering a higher level of competition. Which, for your own sake, you will squad up with others and eventually form a team and counter your enemy. Thus, promoting more team / squad work and helps lead to ' End Game Content ' being Planetary Conquest. CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today! Thank you for DUST
Starlight Burner Arrary of Clusters 309	Posted - 2015.06.30 10:34:00 - [6] - Quote @Korrah entirely unconcerned with pushing other players out of content. anyway its late here i will come back when im more capable of elloquence. That is correct. If you, the player, are not wanting to achieve a higher level of reward which require you to try more or cooperate with others, then this game mode is not for you. Just like in EVE Online, if I want State Protectorate things from their LP store, I can only earn that LP by being enlisted in FW and doing FW things. Unfortunatly, I can not earn State Protectorate LP because my corporation is not enlisted, nor will be enlisted in the near future, into Caldari Factional Warfare. With this PC Kredits thing coming, there might be things I want from the PC store; however, since i choose not to participate in PC, I will never earn or be able to get such things from the store. Your argument of barring out players based on that statement, is invalid. CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today! Thank you for DUST
Starlight Burner Arrary of Clusters 310	Posted - 2015.06.30 17:05:00 - [7] - Quote korrah silain wrote: Starlight Burner wrote: @Korrah Stuff ok i lied, last post. it is not invalid because eve and dust are two completely different games, in eve you can circumvent such limitations by becoming a merchant, or miner, or whatever the hell and trading with other players, in dust we have three game modes, and so very few players, if we push enough into a tiny limiting corner of pubs(who cant gain access to the full spectrum of equipment) they will just leave, especially considering that limitation doesnt go both ways, allowing people who do squad to get dirt cheap proto gear and stomp in pubs leading to frustration and exodus. what im saying is dont compare this tiny game with limited content to eve because thats ******* munchingly stupid. ugh i had another point but...ugh i cant remember right now... Not true, you trade or buy that said gear for isk. Once again, it's you, the player, fault for not squadding up and / or cooperating with a squad / team against the enemy. So, because you choose not to work with others, your statement is still invalid. You are handicapping only yourself to prevent you from reaching a obtainable goal. CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today! Thank you for DUST
Starlight Burner Arrary of Clusters 310	Posted - 2015.06.30 17:07:00 - [8] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: FW should be semi-competetive. It should demand more than from pubs but not as much as PC does. There's no place for newer/not as good players in PC. Do you want FW to be like this? Available only to better players? Team Deploy in FW is not preventing only allowing better players. It does the opposite and encourages people to squad and work as a team more. CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today! Thank you for DUST