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Indianna Pwns
TERRA R1SING
New Eden's Heros
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Posted - 2015.06.29 22:04:00 -
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So lets imagine legion happens and dust moves to PC,PS4, ZX Spectrum, whatever. You log in and discover that your characters progression has been wiped and everyone has been reverted back to noob status.
The devs announce that they decided to wipe the slate clean and completely start again with the progression and the economy.
I personally wouldn't mind even though my main currently has 35 mil SP and just over 130 mil ISK.
Pros
- Assuming a reboot brought an influx of new players the community wouldn't start off split between old high SP players and noobs.
- The economy could be properly managed this time as everyone would start poor again as opposed to another divide of the have and the have nots.
- You wouldn't be fighting the same people day in day out which would be the case if you progression moved over. Think about it, assuming CCP would be smart enough to separate noobs and vets this time, you'd just end up fighting the same small group of players you are now while all the low SP players would get that glorious new game experience of a community ranking up together.
- The game would be new and fresh again. Tired of your ugly ass Minmatar prison... err I mean quarters? Nows your chance to switch race.
- I cant stress this enough...the community wont be split day one between bitter vets and noobs.
- Devs are free to make changes to how progression works without having to accommodate players with 100 mill SP.
Cons
- Your current progression would be lost (I know people have put a lot of time and money into their character)
- Devs would have to think of a way to reward vets for their loyalty to Dust without breaking game balance (Perhaps unique skins or Quarters for every 10 mil SP a dust merc has).
- The knowledge that you would rage and throw a tantrum but them calm down and fall in line 
How would you react? and would you still play if you had to start again? |
Moochie Cricket
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.29 22:28:00 -
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The game would eventually have to be balenced for extreme gaps in skill points, such as the case now. Resetting would only be a temporary stopgap.
Caldari Tribute Montage
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MrCriminal High Power
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Posted - 2015.06.29 22:28:00 -
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If I wanted to start again I would make a alt.
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Indianna Pwns
TERRA R1SING
New Eden's Heros
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Posted - 2015.06.29 22:39:00 -
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Obviously my post is only semi serious. I was more coming from a scenario where the game was rebranded and and large sweeping changes where made (i.e legion) instead of a simple port of what we have now.
I feel like this game is so broken and it's reputation so tarnished that a clean break and a fresh start is required. |
Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.06.29 22:44:00 -
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I can only see pros.
You would earn what you want anyway.
If they would let you keep old stats (sp) it would be very unbalanced from the start.
In other words, NPE would suck as much as now.
Ps. I would be pleasant with unique tittle and a skin.
Loyal to The State
Member of State Protectorate //
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Civire Bloodline
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saxonmish
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1
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Posted - 2015.06.29 22:46:00 -
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I would be on black ops 3 if they wiped my char
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Indianna Pwns
TERRA R1SING
New Eden's Heros
165
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Posted - 2015.06.29 22:49:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:I would be on black ops 3 if they wiped my char
You'd be back, don't deny it 
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
1
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Posted - 2015.06.29 22:50:00 -
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I want ZX spectrum sinclair "gummy" version :p
"Caller of the Monolith"
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Radiant Pancake3
Destinys Immortals
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.06.29 22:53:00 -
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Indianna Pwns wrote:So lets imagine legion happens and dust moves to PC,PS4, ZX Spectrum, whatever. You log in and discover that your characters progression has been wiped and everyone has been reverted back to noob status. The devs announce that they decided to wipe the slate clean and completely start again with the progression and the economy. I personally wouldn't mind even though my main currently has 35 mil SP and just over 130 mil ISK. Pros - Assuming a reboot brought an influx of new players the community wouldn't start off split between old high SP players and noobs. - The economy could be properly managed this time as everyone would start poor again as opposed to another divide of the have and the have nots. - You wouldn't be fighting the same people day in day out which would be the case if you progression moved over. Think about it, assuming CCP would be smart enough to separate noobs and vets this time, you'd just end up fighting the same small group of players you are now while all the low SP players would get that glorious new game experience of a community ranking up together. - The game would be new and fresh again. Tired of your ugly ass Minmatar prison... err I mean quarters? Nows your chance to switch race. - I cant stress this enough...the community wont be split day one between bitter vets and noobs. - Devs are free to make changes to how progression works without having to accommodate players with 100 mill SP. Cons - Your current progression would be lost (I know people have put a lot of time and money into their character) - Devs would have to think of a way to reward vets for their loyalty to Dust without breaking game balance (Perhaps unique skins or Quarters for every 10 mil SP a dust merc has). - The knowledge that you would rage and throw a tantrum but them calm down and fall in line How would you react? and would you still play if you had to start again?
The way I see it. Free Respec without getting your SP back. :3 
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Jammeh McJam
XxAMBUSH FTWxX
General Tso's Alliance
298
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Posted - 2015.06.29 22:56:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:I can only see pros.
You would earn what you want anyway.
If they would let you keep old stats (sp) it would be very unbalanced from the start.
In other words, NPE would suck as much as now.
Ps. I would be pleasant with unique tittle and a skin.
However if you give it a while, we'll be in exactly the same position as we are now. It doesn't take long to get more SP and isk
"We may be small and disorganized, but we're still gonna kill you" - Intergalactic Super Friends
MAG ~ Raven vet
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
5
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Posted - 2015.06.29 22:58:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:I can only see pros.
You would earn what you want anyway.
If they would let you keep old stats (sp) it would be very unbalanced from the start.
In other words, NPE would suck as much as now.
Ps. I would be pleasant with unique tittle and a skin.
I was reset enough times in closed beta..do it again and I won't come back..all that time grinding wasted, yeah that'd be cool.
I guess if it were ported I might try it..but ps5 will be out next year
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Balistyc Farshot
MONSTER SYNERGY
240
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Posted - 2015.06.29 23:03:00 -
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I would be happy with a skin and quarters. I would expect to have some way to identify my fellow vets "Name Tag".
Lastly, not asking but would subjugate the haters, Provide the first round of districts to the vet winners of some fight in Dust.
"Dying with your rep tool out - the logi-flasher!"
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Indianna Pwns
TERRA R1SING
New Eden's Heros
166
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Posted - 2015.06.29 23:05:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Mejt0 wrote:I can only see pros.
You would earn what you want anyway.
If they would let you keep old stats (sp) it would be very unbalanced from the start.
In other words, NPE would suck as much as now.
Ps. I would be pleasant with unique tittle and a skin. I was reset enough times in closed beta..do it again and I won't come back..all that time grinding wasted, yeah that'd be cool. I guess if it were ported I might try it..but ps5 will be out next year
I totally understand why you would feel that way, but remember this would essentially be a different game. Hopefully it would feel fresh and different enough that it wouldn't be such a grind for you. |
Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.06.29 23:10:00 -
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Indianna Pwns wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Mejt0 wrote:I can only see pros.
You would earn what you want anyway.
If they would let you keep old stats (sp) it would be very unbalanced from the start.
In other words, NPE would suck as much as now.
Ps. I would be pleasant with unique tittle and a skin. I was reset enough times in closed beta..do it again and I won't come back..all that time grinding wasted, yeah that'd be cool. I guess if it were ported I might try it..but ps5 will be out next year I totally understand why you would feel that way, but remember this would essentially be a different game. Hopefully it would feel fresh and different enough that it wouldn't be such a grind for you.
True..my fear with a port to ps4 is that it's decent but not worthy of a 10 year game..it's already 3 years in and I'm sure the ps5 is being worked on then we'd need another port..but I'm not a fan of PC gaming for fps's so idk I guess any choice is better than dust on PS3...signed =ƒÿ¡
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Squagga
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.30 00:49:00 -
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So many other sequel games get developed for, at the time, next gen consoles. There's no reason why they can't do it, and it's not money. CCP is just cheap and lazy. Sorry about the fact that I'm not sorry
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
744
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Posted - 2015.06.30 01:11:00 -
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NO THANK YOU. I PUT WORK INTO MY CLONE. I MIGHT NOT BE ON LEADERBOARDS (I don't play too much cuz school and more.) BUT I HAVE SKILL AND LITS OF INVERTED SP AND ISK. NO THANK YOU. I AINT STARTING ALL KVER AGAIN.
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Sned TheDead
Failures inc.
377
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Posted - 2015.06.30 01:38:00 -
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eh what eves.
I'd like to think my time was not wasted, but I spent one year on this game, and am more than willing to spend another, and another.
I must be addicted to the grind, or the people.
either way take my skills? I'll earn em' back.
take my suits? I'll buy em' back.
in the end, I have way too much fun with this game to let something as silly as SP dissuade me from starting again.
Its all about effort and if we fight we can have everything we have now, and more then.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2015.06.30 01:41:00 -
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Dude, there is not enough hoes and drugs in the world to console me after that.
MY CPM2 PLATFORM
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
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Posted - 2015.06.30 01:46:00 -
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"Oh, you spent money on boosters? Screw you, thanks for the money to support the game but we have no respect for your investment of time, effort nor money."
That's basically what a wipe would amount to.
Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.06.30 01:46:00 -
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Nope, they don't take away the sp from the vets in eve every time a release happens to ease the pains of being a new player. Instead they direct you to threads,corporations, and advice to get you through the grind. As I see it would correctly simulate the basis of EvE online on the ground "join the knowledgeable or suffer a lone".
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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Got That Dodi
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2015.06.30 01:52:00 -
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As much work as this game needs from a game play and balance perspective, I feel they would have to reset. Vets would be given something, but I don't think they would keep much, if anything, SP/equipment wise.
If SP/Equipment did translate easily into a new version of Dust somewhere else, we would be basically looking at a port, pretty much the same game we have now. |
Boot Booter
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.06.30 02:03:00 -
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I've put a lot of time and money into this game however I wouldn't mind starting over as long as I was given something cool and unique to replace the 70 mil sp and hundreds of dollars of my moneys. I think it'd be fun to level the playing field and race towards having the best gear again. |
knight guard fury
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2015.06.30 02:06:00 -
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i wouldnt mind if they wiped everything but id prefer if they would just wipe all of our isk for everything so atleast that way we can still have our sp, but we would just have to regain our isk since sp took time, money and many many hours to get.
Kin of the Vherokior tribe and warrior of the republic
Self proclaimed minmatar lore master
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JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
1
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Posted - 2015.06.30 02:08:00 -
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I would go to StarWars Battlefront if all my assets and stuff was Erased >:/
I only purchased a Toxin BPO, Quafe Cal scout, Min heavy, and the Veteran pack.
If that can't be transferred = I"LL BE PISSED = I don't like it when I'm angry.
Why did the white girl cross the road? To get to Starbucks. <-- My GF will kill me if I ask her that lol :)
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Scheneighnay McBob
Penumbra or something
7
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Posted - 2015.06.30 02:30:00 -
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I personally don't give a damn.
However, here's what I'm sure of:
It's been confirmed that Dust vets will definitely be beta participants, probably closed beta at that.
When Dust left beta, there was an SP wipe a week or 2 before release. However, that still meant testers were a week or 2 ahead.
I really don'y care at this point. I've got 3 years worth of experience backing me up, I'll do well with or without my ****.
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Tech Ohm Eaven
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.06.30 02:31:00 -
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Indianna Pwns wrote:So lets imagine legion happens and dust moves to PC,PS4, ZX Spectrum, whatever. You log in and discover that your characters progression has been wiped and everyone has been reverted back to noob status. The devs announce that they decided to wipe the slate clean and completely start again with the progression and the economy. I personally wouldn't mind even though my main currently has 35 mil SP and just over 130 mil ISK. Pros - Assuming a reboot brought an influx of new players the community wouldn't start off split between old high SP players and noobs. - The economy could be properly managed this time as everyone would start poor again as opposed to another divide of the have and the have nots. - You wouldn't be fighting the same people day in day out which would be the case if you progression moved over. Think about it, assuming CCP would be smart enough to separate noobs and vets this time, you'd just end up fighting the same small group of players you are now while all the low SP players would get that glorious new game experience of a community ranking up together. - The game would be new and fresh again. Tired of your ugly ass Minmatar prison... err I mean quarters? Nows your chance to switch race. - I cant stress this enough...the community wont be split day one between bitter vets and noobs. - Devs are free to make changes to how progression works without having to accommodate players with 100 mill SP. Cons - Your current progression would be lost (I know people have put a lot of time and money into their character) - Devs would have to think of a way to reward vets for their loyalty to Dust without breaking game balance (Perhaps unique skins or Quarters for every 10 mil SP a dust merc has). - The knowledge that you would rage and throw a tantrum but them calm down and fall in line How would you react? and would you still play if you had to start again?
Maaaaybe
Thats if fols wee bored with other ps4 games
Even then a few weeks after and the newberries are gonna scream that they are being protostomped
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.06.30 02:39:00 -
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Hmm...
Personally, I find that grinding itself is fun: it's even more fun than actually having all the SP. If the new game was exactly that - a brand new and completely different new game - then there would be less pressure on CCP to refund everyone for Boosters and Aurum too...
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
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D4GG3R
0uter.Heaven
1
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Posted - 2015.06.30 02:46:00 -
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115 mil sp down the drain.... self harm would come shortly after
I'm pretty plain.
I watch anime for the boobs
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jpmannu
105
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Posted - 2015.06.30 04:29:00 -
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35 mil SP is nothing. |
deezy dabest
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.06.30 05:00:00 -
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There is a lot of people with a lot of real money involved in their SP and now even directly in their ISK so I can only imagine a wipe going very badly for the launch on whatever platform it may be.
I would probably buy a PS4 for Dust but I would definitely wait for confirmation from many players on CCP having handled it right before I blow a few hundred bucks on a platform that I have absolutely zero use for otherwise.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Back and Forth
8
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Posted - 2015.06.30 06:10:00 -
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I don't see a realistic way for us to keep our sp or more so isk.
At least I'm personally not counting on it.
I do believe there will be a progression system that will transfer some and limited amount of stuff from dust to legion but I don't think it will transfer a lot
Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll hurt you.
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deezy dabest
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
2
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Posted - 2015.06.30 06:15:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:I don't see a realistic way for us to keep our sp or more so isk.
I hope you are wrong.
If you are correct I am going to be pretty mad that I stuck with my outdated PS3 for as long as I did. Specially since I made the decision to not even play the planetside closed beta because having a ps3 and ps4 would be too big of a conflict for me.
<<< is wondering if I really did screw myself by sticking with this game in the capacity I did.
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KGB Sleep
Inner.Hell
1
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Posted - 2015.06.30 06:30:00 -
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Hmm? Academy stomp on a new platform?
Sign me up and give me an Elite pack for my service.
Because beer, that's why.
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korrah silain
True Illuminate
83
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Posted - 2015.06.30 08:48:00 -
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I think it would be a pointless idea as there will always be vets and noobs, that said what I would be more...lets use the term upset rather than "genital rippingly infuriated" about would be if I lost my bpos and such. |
Starlight Burner
Arrary of Clusters
308
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Posted - 2015.06.30 09:15:00 -
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Indianna Pwns wrote:saxonmish wrote:I would be on black ops 3 if they wiped my char You'd be back, don't deny it
I can promise you, I will not log back in if they did that ****.
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demonkiller 12
TERRA R1SING
New Eden's Heros
818
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Posted - 2015.06.30 10:27:00 -
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imagine all you want cause it aint happening, the ip for legion was dropped |
Scheneighnay McBob
Penumbra or something
7
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Posted - 2015.06.30 19:39:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:imagine all you want cause it aint happening, the ip for legion was dropped
the name "Project" Legion was dropped.
Doesn't mean ****. Could be that it's no longer a project, or that they decided on a different name.
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BATSHlT Crazy
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2015.06.30 19:44:00 -
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If my 87m sp and 675m isk were wiped I would burn this mother down.
Honestly, first phone call is sony, to see how far back I can get money returned for being lied to. |
benandjerrys
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
195
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Posted - 2015.06.30 19:59:00 -
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A special item is in order... Grandfathered in. My skinweaves, Templars, toxins, dragonflys, quafes, drens, covenants, mlt bpos, skins, valors, ravens, svers are just like the tech 2 bpos I enjoy in EvE.
ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
1
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Posted - 2015.06.30 21:08:00 -
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Squagga wrote:So many other sequel games get developed for, at the time, next gen consoles. There's no reason why they can't do it, and it's not money. CCP is just cheap and lazy. Sorry about the fact that I'm not sorry
I see it more like, they are confused because they dont know what fix first.
Run for money through skins/boosters etc. is understandable, for more work you need more money.
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deezy dabest
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
2
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Posted - 2015.06.30 21:15:00 -
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BATSHlT Crazy wrote:If my 87m sp and 675m isk were wiped I would burn this mother down.
Honestly, first phone call is sony, to see how far back I can get money returned for being lied to.
I mentioned this the other day when someone tried to have that conversation.
In Eve CCP deals directly with the credit card companies who will allow them time to fight the charge back and since it is digital goods which they have proof that that person is online using them they will generally win.
In Dust CCP's money is at the mercy of Sony who does not give a damn about letting CCP fight it because they only care about their own image and the fact that they are not going to fight the charge back with the credit card company or ultimately take the hit on the charge back and charge back fees. CCP learned this lesson in a big way after the FF disaster. It is very possible that this is why they are so quiet because another flood of charge backs to Sony would likely spell disaster for any future console plans by CCP.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2015.06.30 21:38:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:BATSHlT Crazy wrote:If my 87m sp and 675m isk were wiped I would burn this mother down.
Honestly, first phone call is sony, to see how far back I can get money returned for being lied to. I mentioned this the other day when someone tried to have that conversation. In Eve CCP deals directly with the credit card companies who will allow them time to fight the charge back and since it is digital goods which they have proof that that person is online using them they will generally win. In Dust CCP's money is at the mercy of Sony who does not give a damn about letting CCP fight it because they only care about their own image and the fact that they are not going to fight the charge back with the credit card company or ultimately take the hit on the charge back and charge back fees. CCP learned this lesson in a big way after the FF disaster. It is very possible that this is why they are so quiet because another flood of charge backs to Sony would likely spell disaster for any future console plans by CCP.
Which can only mean one thing. They will not likely not wipe out our stats even if they ported it over to the PC or other platform.
Keep in mind that CCP constantly told veteran players that they want to transfer their progress, assets, and even their names to Project Legion if it ever gets off the ground. That encouraged a lot of players to invest more though a great many more left the game due to the Rouge Wedding.
Honestly, I would be ok with starting over but on one condition.
Proper compensation of equal or greater value. I would want compensation for my time invested. And that is the hard part to figure out. What kind of compensation would any of you be happy with at this point? Would CCP even be able to deliver on that compensation? Also keep in mind that what may be proper compensation to you may not be proper to someone else. That just complicates things.
Which is why in all honesty I believe that a reset is never going to happen. To do so carries too many risks. The best way to go about it is to keep to the original plan of transferring our progress over to the next platform. It's easier and less messy for CCP.
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Indianna Pwns
TERRA R1SING
New Eden's Heros
176
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Posted - 2015.06.30 22:44:00 -
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I'm not talking about a ports of dust or dust 2.0. I'm talking about 'project legion' which will be a separate entity to dust 514. People need to remember that any real life money and time invested in Dust 514 potentially stays with Dust 514.
If CCP want to make a new different game learning from past mistakes you are not immediately entitled to have all your progression in dust transferred over.
For example what if the devs decided they wanted to completely rework how progression works. Should their hands be tied because people have invested time into their dust 514 merc and might get upset if they cant transfer their SP across? What if the devs decide that BPO's would be bad for the economy in legion and decide they wont be available in the game. Should dust vets be able to bring all their BPO's across?
Just food for thought.
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
960
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Posted - 2015.06.30 23:40:00 -
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MrCriminal High Power wrote:If I wanted to start again I would make a alt.
This
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Thokk Nightshade
Montana Militia
948
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Posted - 2015.07.01 00:08:00 -
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What is we were given 100 standard variants of each weapon that we could name? 1 set per acct. 1 name universal across the board. For example, if I chose Nightshade, I would get 100 std. variant "Nightshade" Rail Rifles, "Nightshade" Combat Rifles, HMG's, Bolt Pistols, etc. That or a militia BPO variant with the same naming system. Militia weapons cost, what, 500 ISK? So in the long run the ISK bonus is negligible compared to brand new players and is something to identify us as a vet.
I also feel we should get a specific skin identifying us as a PS3 vet. Something
I am only at about 31 Mil SP & 40 Mil ISK so I am not taking NEAR the hit some of you are.
But would something like this be close to sufficient? The only advantage you would have is saving a bit of ISK on weapons but we have something to signify who we are and what we came from.
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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DiGreatDestroyer
Grupo de Asalto Chacal
Rise Of Legion.
85
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Posted - 2015.07.01 00:08:00 -
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I would still play as long as i had the console its being ported to.
Ive come to a point where im mature enough to realize that If this game is to be successfull we have to have a complet reset, of SP and ISK. Im willing to accept that, because i want this game to live. And i wont think i wasted nor my money nor my time, because i have made some wonderfulls friends in this game, and at the end of the day, thats all that matters
What must, will occur today, but there will always be a tomorrow
Lo que deba, pasara hoy, pero siempre habra un mañana
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Jaztech
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2015.07.01 00:16:00 -
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How about the money we spent on this game? |
Scheneighnay McBob
Penumbra or something
7
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Posted - 2015.07.01 00:35:00 -
[48] - Quote
Jaztech wrote:How about the money we spent on this game?
How about you don't post on an alt?
Not caring about KD
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
RUST415
255
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Posted - 2015.07.01 19:33:00 -
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Indianna Pwns wrote:So lets imagine legion happens and dust moves to PC,PS4, ZX Spectrum, whatever. You log in and discover that your characters progression has been wiped and everyone has been reverted back to noob status. The devs announce that they decided to wipe the slate clean and completely start again with the progression and the economy. I personally wouldn't mind even though my main currently has 35 mil SP and just over 130 mil ISK. Pros - Assuming a reboot brought an influx of new players the community wouldn't start off split between old high SP players and noobs. - The economy could be properly managed this time as everyone would start poor again as opposed to another divide of the have and the have nots. - You wouldn't be fighting the same people day in day out which would be the case if you progression moved over. Think about it, assuming CCP would be smart enough to separate noobs and vets this time, you'd just end up fighting the same small group of players you are now while all the low SP players would get that glorious new game experience of a community ranking up together. - The game would be new and fresh again. Tired of your ugly ass Minmatar prison... err I mean quarters? Nows your chance to switch race. - I cant stress this enough...the community wont be split day one between bitter vets and noobs. - Devs are free to make changes to how progression works without having to accommodate players with 100 mill SP. Cons - Your current progression would be lost (I know people have put a lot of time and money into their character) - Devs would have to think of a way to reward vets for their loyalty to Dust without breaking game balance (Perhaps unique skins or Quarters for every 10 mil SP a dust merc has). - The knowledge that you would rage and throw a tantrum but them calm down and fall in line How would you react? and would you still play if you had to start again?
Absolutely not. I would never play any derivative of a game from CCP again. With all the time and money I've put into this for Aurum, boosters, weapon packs. Not to forget the 86 million SP I have accrued wich is still far less than people who have played from day one. Do you remember fanfest and how project Legion scared a large chunk of the player base off? This would be in the same ballpark. I also pose you a question. Do you think they reset the SP for players in eve? There are people that have played for years. If I start playi eve tomorrow do you feel everyone else should be reset to 0? I think not. |
SgtNONECK WASSSUP
0uter.Heaven
232
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Posted - 2015.07.01 19:35:00 -
[50] - Quote
saxonmish wrote:I would be on black ops 3 if they wiped my char
100% agree |
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
RUST415
255
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Posted - 2015.07.01 19:36:00 -
[51] - Quote
Moochie Cricket wrote:  The game would eventually have to be balanced for extreme gaps in skill points, such as the case now. Resetting would only be a temporary stopgap.
So why don't they do that in eve? |
TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
RUST415
255
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Posted - 2015.07.01 19:47:00 -
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Indianna Pwns wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Mejt0 wrote:I can only see pros.
You would earn what you want anyway.
If they would let you keep old stats (sp) it would be very unbalanced from the start.
In other words, NPE would suck as much as now.
Ps. I would be pleasant with unique tittle and a skin. I was reset enough times in closed beta..do it again and I won't come back..all that time grinding wasted, yeah that'd be cool. I guess if it were ported I might try it..but ps5 will be out next year I totally understand why you would feel that way, but remember this would essentially be a different game. Hopefully it would feel fresh and different enough that it wouldn't be such a grind for you.
You mean the game Dust was supposed to be which essentially scared off much of the player base because they thought they'd be wasting their time? Good idea. Hemorrhage off more players. |
Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
8
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Posted - 2015.07.01 19:51:00 -
[53] - Quote
I wouldn't mind, as long as I get to keep my BPOs and officers. Leveling up was most fun part of this game for me. Having passed the 40mill level means I don't really have to put SP in many other skills, as I already have them at a good level. Well, for a player that doesn't cross train much.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
8
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Posted - 2015.07.01 19:53:00 -
[54] - Quote
Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Jaztech wrote:How about the money we spent on this game? How about you don't post on an alt?
Alt or not, he has a point.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Penumbra or something
7
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Posted - 2015.07.01 20:01:00 -
[55] - Quote
SgtNONECK WASSSUP wrote:saxonmish wrote:I would be on black ops 3 if they wiped my char 100% agree
Leave Dust if you consider playing that ****. Legion won't be a lobby shooter anyway.
Not caring about KD
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Tech Ohm Eaven
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.07.01 20:02:00 -
[56] - Quote
Problem is theres no real corporation headquarters to raid and fight over , no real corporation plazas to sell items from, no real corporation plazas to raid and fight over,etc
At the end of the day ccp provided no carrots other than sp |
TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
RUST415
255
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Posted - 2015.07.01 20:24:00 -
[57] - Quote
knight guard fury wrote:i wouldnt mind if they wiped everything but id prefer if they would just wipe all of our isk for everything so atleast that way we can still have our sp, but we would just have to regain our isk since sp took time, money and many many hours to get.
Losing the isk is nothing. It's losng My SP-representative of my time and BPOs that I find unacceptable. |
TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
RUST415
255
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Posted - 2015.07.01 20:26:00 -
[58] - Quote
Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Hmm...
Personally, I find that grinding itself is fun: it's even more fun than actually having all the SP. If the new game was exactly that - a brand new and completely different new game - then there would be less pressure on CCP to refund everyone for Boosters and Aurum too...
Fanfest Legion announcement = players leaving. |
Louis Domi
Tugastroy
955
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Posted - 2015.07.01 20:27:00 -
[59] - Quote
Take away a trained vets some 40 million+ sp, what does that leave you with? Someone who can probably still kick you ass. If everyones has same sp then we all have same gear. So experienced vets would still have advantage |
VAHZZ
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
3
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Posted - 2015.07.01 20:28:00 -
[60] - Quote
I wouldn't mind, but I would like it if Closed/Open Beta testera get something special. Like a BPO suit or something special. Idk.
And the money back that i spent on this game. |
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
6
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Posted - 2015.07.01 20:36:00 -
[61] - Quote
VAHZZ wrote:I wouldn't mind, but I would like it if Closed/Open Beta testera get something special. Like a BPO suit or something special. Idk.
And the money back that i spent on this game.
Money back is a must or an aur refund
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Forced Death
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
982
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Posted - 2015.07.01 20:45:00 -
[62] - Quote
b-but my bpos
finally got a gallogi 5
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Indianna Pwns
TERRA R1SING
New Eden's Heros
187
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Posted - 2015.07.01 21:32:00 -
[63] - Quote
TIGER SHARK1501 wrote:knight guard fury wrote:i wouldnt mind if they wiped everything but id prefer if they would just wipe all of our isk for everything so atleast that way we can still have our sp, but we would just have to regain our isk since sp took time, money and many many hours to get. Losing the isk is nothing. It's losng My SP-representative of my time and BPOs that I find unacceptable.
But it's not dust 514, legion is legion. Two separate entities.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.07.02 00:05:00 -
[64] - Quote
Indianna Pwns wrote:
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stuff
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Few pointers:
Vets and toughguys aren't tough just because they have a lot of SP.
They are tough because they have
- Dedication
- Connections (ever heard those threads translatable as "teamwork is op" threads?)
- Mentality and adaptive ability
- Experiece in shooters and tactical shooters
- Knowledge on previous things and mechanics (and maybe maps)
not that I didn't even have to resort to using the controversial word 'skill'.
The point is you'd still be fighting the same people, maybe just with new character names. Except for those who would quit the game altogether.
Also, as you know, your post is on very theoretical level.
CCP was forced to make a promise on Fanfest 2014 that if Legion comes real there WILL be character transfer from Dust.
They really made that promise.
Of course, they can do the dousche move of calling the game "Leg-10N" and then they slither away from the promisive given to dust community,...
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.07.02 00:08:00 -
[65] - Quote
I gotta say, to sacrifice all those stacked booster benefits, all those grindy weekly caps, all ultra-grindy events...
For something cosmetic.
I would be very very unsatisfied.
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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VAHZZ
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
3
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Posted - 2015.07.02 00:10:00 -
[66] - Quote
Heimdallr69 wrote:VAHZZ wrote:I wouldn't mind, but I would like it if Closed/Open Beta testera get something special. Like a BPO suit or something special. Idk.
And the money back that i spent on this game. Money back is a must or an aur refund
I would love an AUR refund. |
thor424
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
544
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Posted - 2015.07.02 00:22:00 -
[67] - Quote
If they reset me there's a good chance you'd see my reaction on CNN |
KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.07.02 00:28:00 -
[68] - Quote
Jaztech wrote:How about the money we spent on this game?
That would do. That would REALLY do.
...But I know they would NEVER do that.
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
8
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Posted - 2015.07.02 00:38:00 -
[69] - Quote
VAHZZ wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:VAHZZ wrote:I wouldn't mind, but I would like it if Closed/Open Beta testera get something special. Like a BPO suit or something special. Idk.
And the money back that i spent on this game. Money back is a must or an aur refund I would love an AUR refund.
I'd be rich in AUR.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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Jaztech
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2015.07.02 00:38:00 -
[70] - Quote
Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Jaztech wrote:How about the money we spent on this game? How about you don't post on an alt?
Why not? |
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Got That Dodi
RestlessSpirits
37
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Posted - 2015.07.02 01:47:00 -
[71] - Quote
Heimdallr69 wrote:VAHZZ wrote:I wouldn't mind, but I would like it if Closed/Open Beta testera get something special. Like a BPO suit or something special. Idk.
And the money back that i spent on this game. Money back is a must or an aur refund
Aur refund could possibly be a thing, but CCP won't be giving any money back. As was covered a little over a year ago in the exciting EULA/ToS debates/threads anybody wanting any form of cash refund must take it up with Sony, CCP has a pretty iron clad setup in that regard. |
TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
RUST415
255
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Posted - 2015.07.02 20:54:00 -
[72] - Quote
Indianna Pwns wrote:TIGER SHARK1501 wrote:knight guard fury wrote:i wouldnt mind if they wiped everything but id prefer if they would just wipe all of our isk for everything so atleast that way we can still have our sp, but we would just have to regain our isk since sp took time, money and many many hours to get. Losing the isk is nothing. It's losng My SP-representative of my time and BPOs that I find unacceptable. But it's not dust 514, legion is legion. Two separate entities.
You don't listen very well so I shall state one last time.
The idea of Legion was what they wished Dust 514 to be. By doing so they abondon what the players have put into this game via time and money, both of which are important to me as a gamer. If they moved to Legion and player progress did not transfer I as a player would no longer partake in such a game because I would feel that what I put into Dust would have been wasted. I also would not purchase Aurum which is pumping money into CCP to keep the lights on so to speak even though in comparison Eve does that fully well. |
Balamob
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2015.07.02 22:50:00 -
[73] - Quote
They should reduce the gap between new players and vets, i think thats part of the plan with the powercore....
Assault ak.0, Sentinel ak.0, Scout ak.0.
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VikingKong iBUN
0uter.Heaven
443
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Posted - 2015.07.02 23:00:00 -
[74] - Quote
Heimdallr69 wrote:VAHZZ wrote:I wouldn't mind, but I would like it if Closed/Open Beta testera get something special. Like a BPO suit or something special. Idk.
And the money back that i spent on this game. Money back is a must or an aur refund
They already ran away with the money and spent it all on hookers and coke. There's no way you're getting it back now.
I would like a Gallente SMG.
TUNNEL SNAKES RULE
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