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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Back and Forth
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Posted - 2015.06.30 06:10:00 -
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I don't see a realistic way for us to keep our sp or more so isk.
At least I'm personally not counting on it.
I do believe there will be a progression system that will transfer some and limited amount of stuff from dust to legion but I don't think it will transfer a lot
Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll hurt you.
I'm kind of a big deal.
Get Dust ISK Here
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deezy dabest
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.06.30 06:15:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:I don't see a realistic way for us to keep our sp or more so isk.
I hope you are wrong.
If you are correct I am going to be pretty mad that I stuck with my outdated PS3 for as long as I did. Specially since I made the decision to not even play the planetside closed beta because having a ps3 and ps4 would be too big of a conflict for me.
<<< is wondering if I really did screw myself by sticking with this game in the capacity I did.
Remove NPC orbitals from FW. -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest.
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KGB Sleep
Inner.Hell
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Posted - 2015.06.30 06:30:00 -
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Hmm? Academy stomp on a new platform?
Sign me up and give me an Elite pack for my service.
Because beer, that's why.
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korrah silain
True Illuminate
83
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Posted - 2015.06.30 08:48:00 -
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I think it would be a pointless idea as there will always be vets and noobs, that said what I would be more...lets use the term upset rather than "genital rippingly infuriated" about would be if I lost my bpos and such. |
Starlight Burner
Arrary of Clusters
308
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Posted - 2015.06.30 09:15:00 -
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Indianna Pwns wrote:saxonmish wrote:I would be on black ops 3 if they wiped my char You'd be back, don't deny it I can promise you, I will not log back in if they did that ****.
CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation
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Thank you for DUST
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demonkiller 12
TERRA R1SING New Eden's Heros
818
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Posted - 2015.06.30 10:27:00 -
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imagine all you want cause it aint happening, the ip for legion was dropped |
Scheneighnay McBob
Penumbra or something
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Posted - 2015.06.30 19:39:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:imagine all you want cause it aint happening, the ip for legion was dropped the name "Project" Legion was dropped.
Doesn't mean ****. Could be that it's no longer a project, or that they decided on a different name.
Not caring about KD
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BATSHlT Crazy
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2015.06.30 19:44:00 -
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If my 87m sp and 675m isk were wiped I would burn this mother down.
Honestly, first phone call is sony, to see how far back I can get money returned for being lied to. |
benandjerrys
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
195
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Posted - 2015.06.30 19:59:00 -
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A special item is in order... Grandfathered in. My skinweaves, Templars, toxins, dragonflys, quafes, drens, covenants, mlt bpos, skins, valors, ravens, svers are just like the tech 2 bpos I enjoy in EvE.
ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR
Let's bring back Dust/EvE cross content
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy No Context
1
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Posted - 2015.06.30 21:08:00 -
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Squagga wrote:So many other sequel games get developed for, at the time, next gen consoles. There's no reason why they can't do it, and it's not money. CCP is just cheap and lazy. Sorry about the fact that I'm not sorry
I see it more like, they are confused because they dont know what fix first. Run for money through skins/boosters etc. is understandable, for more work you need more money.
"Caller of the Monolith"
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deezy dabest
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.06.30 21:15:00 -
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BATSHlT Crazy wrote:If my 87m sp and 675m isk were wiped I would burn this mother down.
Honestly, first phone call is sony, to see how far back I can get money returned for being lied to.
I mentioned this the other day when someone tried to have that conversation.
In Eve CCP deals directly with the credit card companies who will allow them time to fight the charge back and since it is digital goods which they have proof that that person is online using them they will generally win.
In Dust CCP's money is at the mercy of Sony who does not give a damn about letting CCP fight it because they only care about their own image and the fact that they are not going to fight the charge back with the credit card company or ultimately take the hit on the charge back and charge back fees. CCP learned this lesson in a big way after the FF disaster. It is very possible that this is why they are so quiet because another flood of charge backs to Sony would likely spell disaster for any future console plans by CCP.
Remove NPC orbitals from FW. -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.06.30 21:38:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:BATSHlT Crazy wrote:If my 87m sp and 675m isk were wiped I would burn this mother down.
Honestly, first phone call is sony, to see how far back I can get money returned for being lied to. I mentioned this the other day when someone tried to have that conversation. In Eve CCP deals directly with the credit card companies who will allow them time to fight the charge back and since it is digital goods which they have proof that that person is online using them they will generally win. In Dust CCP's money is at the mercy of Sony who does not give a damn about letting CCP fight it because they only care about their own image and the fact that they are not going to fight the charge back with the credit card company or ultimately take the hit on the charge back and charge back fees. CCP learned this lesson in a big way after the FF disaster. It is very possible that this is why they are so quiet because another flood of charge backs to Sony would likely spell disaster for any future console plans by CCP.
Which can only mean one thing. They will not likely not wipe out our stats even if they ported it over to the PC or other platform.
Keep in mind that CCP constantly told veteran players that they want to transfer their progress, assets, and even their names to Project Legion if it ever gets off the ground. That encouraged a lot of players to invest more though a great many more left the game due to the Rouge Wedding.
Honestly, I would be ok with starting over but on one condition.
Proper compensation of equal or greater value. I would want compensation for my time invested. And that is the hard part to figure out. What kind of compensation would any of you be happy with at this point? Would CCP even be able to deliver on that compensation? Also keep in mind that what may be proper compensation to you may not be proper to someone else. That just complicates things.
Which is why in all honesty I believe that a reset is never going to happen. To do so carries too many risks. The best way to go about it is to keep to the original plan of transferring our progress over to the next platform. It's easier and less messy for CCP.
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Indianna Pwns
TERRA R1SING New Eden's Heros
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Posted - 2015.06.30 22:44:00 -
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I'm not talking about a ports of dust or dust 2.0. I'm talking about 'project legion' which will be a separate entity to dust 514. People need to remember that any real life money and time invested in Dust 514 potentially stays with Dust 514.
If CCP want to make a new different game learning from past mistakes you are not immediately entitled to have all your progression in dust transferred over.
For example what if the devs decided they wanted to completely rework how progression works. Should their hands be tied because people have invested time into their dust 514 merc and might get upset if they cant transfer their SP across? What if the devs decide that BPO's would be bad for the economy in legion and decide they wont be available in the game. Should dust vets be able to bring all their BPO's across?
Just food for thought.
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD RUST415
960
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Posted - 2015.06.30 23:40:00 -
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MrCriminal High Power wrote:If I wanted to start again I would make a alt.
This
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Thokk Nightshade
Montana Militia
948
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Posted - 2015.07.01 00:08:00 -
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What is we were given 100 standard variants of each weapon that we could name? 1 set per acct. 1 name universal across the board. For example, if I chose Nightshade, I would get 100 std. variant "Nightshade" Rail Rifles, "Nightshade" Combat Rifles, HMG's, Bolt Pistols, etc. That or a militia BPO variant with the same naming system. Militia weapons cost, what, 500 ISK? So in the long run the ISK bonus is negligible compared to brand new players and is something to identify us as a vet.
I also feel we should get a specific skin identifying us as a PS3 vet. Something
I am only at about 31 Mil SP & 40 Mil ISK so I am not taking NEAR the hit some of you are.
But would something like this be close to sufficient? The only advantage you would have is saving a bit of ISK on weapons but we have something to signify who we are and what we came from.
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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DiGreatDestroyer
Grupo de Asalto Chacal Rise Of Legion.
85
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Posted - 2015.07.01 00:08:00 -
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I would still play as long as i had the console its being ported to.
Ive come to a point where im mature enough to realize that If this game is to be successfull we have to have a complet reset, of SP and ISK. Im willing to accept that, because i want this game to live. And i wont think i wasted nor my money nor my time, because i have made some wonderfulls friends in this game, and at the end of the day, thats all that matters
What must, will occur today, but there will always be a tomorrow
Lo que deba, pasara hoy, pero siempre habra un mañana
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Jaztech
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.01 00:16:00 -
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How about the money we spent on this game? |
Scheneighnay McBob
Penumbra or something
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Posted - 2015.07.01 00:35:00 -
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Jaztech wrote:How about the money we spent on this game? How about you don't post on an alt?
Not caring about KD
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet RUST415
255
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Posted - 2015.07.01 19:33:00 -
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Indianna Pwns wrote:So lets imagine legion happens and dust moves to PC,PS4, ZX Spectrum, whatever. You log in and discover that your characters progression has been wiped and everyone has been reverted back to noob status. The devs announce that they decided to wipe the slate clean and completely start again with the progression and the economy. I personally wouldn't mind even though my main currently has 35 mil SP and just over 130 mil ISK. Pros - Assuming a reboot brought an influx of new players the community wouldn't start off split between old high SP players and noobs. - The economy could be properly managed this time as everyone would start poor again as opposed to another divide of the have and the have nots. - You wouldn't be fighting the same people day in day out which would be the case if you progression moved over. Think about it, assuming CCP would be smart enough to separate noobs and vets this time, you'd just end up fighting the same small group of players you are now while all the low SP players would get that glorious new game experience of a community ranking up together. - The game would be new and fresh again. Tired of your ugly ass Minmatar prison... err I mean quarters? Nows your chance to switch race. - I cant stress this enough...the community wont be split day one between bitter vets and noobs. - Devs are free to make changes to how progression works without having to accommodate players with 100 mill SP. Cons - Your current progression would be lost (I know people have put a lot of time and money into their character) - Devs would have to think of a way to reward vets for their loyalty to Dust without breaking game balance (Perhaps unique skins or Quarters for every 10 mil SP a dust merc has). - The knowledge that you would rage and throw a tantrum but them calm down and fall in line How would you react? and would you still play if you had to start again? Absolutely not. I would never play any derivative of a game from CCP again. With all the time and money I've put into this for Aurum, boosters, weapon packs. Not to forget the 86 million SP I have accrued wich is still far less than people who have played from day one. Do you remember fanfest and how project Legion scared a large chunk of the player base off? This would be in the same ballpark. I also pose you a question. Do you think they reset the SP for players in eve? There are people that have played for years. If I start playi eve tomorrow do you feel everyone else should be reset to 0? I think not. |
SgtNONECK WASSSUP
0uter.Heaven
232
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Posted - 2015.07.01 19:35:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:I would be on black ops 3 if they wiped my char 100% agree |
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet RUST415
255
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Posted - 2015.07.01 19:36:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:The game would eventually have to be balanced for extreme gaps in skill points, such as the case now. Resetting would only be a temporary stopgap. So why don't they do that in eve? |
TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet RUST415
255
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Posted - 2015.07.01 19:47:00 -
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Indianna Pwns wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Mejt0 wrote:I can only see pros. You would earn what you want anyway.
If they would let you keep old stats (sp) it would be very unbalanced from the start. In other words, NPE would suck as much as now.
Ps. I would be pleasant with unique tittle and a skin. I was reset enough times in closed beta..do it again and I won't come back..all that time grinding wasted, yeah that'd be cool. I guess if it were ported I might try it..but ps5 will be out next year I totally understand why you would feel that way, but remember this would essentially be a different game. Hopefully it would feel fresh and different enough that it wouldn't be such a grind for you. You mean the game Dust was supposed to be which essentially scared off much of the player base because they thought they'd be wasting their time? Good idea. Hemorrhage off more players. |
Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.07.01 19:51:00 -
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I wouldn't mind, as long as I get to keep my BPOs and officers. Leveling up was most fun part of this game for me. Having passed the 40mill level means I don't really have to put SP in many other skills, as I already have them at a good level. Well, for a player that doesn't cross train much.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
8
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Posted - 2015.07.01 19:53:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Jaztech wrote:How about the money we spent on this game? How about you don't post on an alt? Alt or not, he has a point.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Penumbra or something
7
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Posted - 2015.07.01 20:01:00 -
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SgtNONECK WASSSUP wrote:saxonmish wrote:I would be on black ops 3 if they wiped my char 100% agree Leave Dust if you consider playing that ****. Legion won't be a lobby shooter anyway.
Not caring about KD
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Tech Ohm Eaven
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.07.01 20:02:00 -
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Problem is theres no real corporation headquarters to raid and fight over , no real corporation plazas to sell items from, no real corporation plazas to raid and fight over,etc At the end of the day ccp provided no carrots other than sp |
TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet RUST415
255
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Posted - 2015.07.01 20:24:00 -
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knight guard fury wrote:i wouldnt mind if they wiped everything but id prefer if they would just wipe all of our isk for everything so atleast that way we can still have our sp, but we would just have to regain our isk since sp took time, money and many many hours to get. Losing the isk is nothing. It's losng My SP-representative of my time and BPOs that I find unacceptable. |
TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet RUST415
255
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Posted - 2015.07.01 20:26:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Hmm...
Personally, I find that grinding itself is fun: it's even more fun than actually having all the SP. If the new game was exactly that - a brand new and completely different new game - then there would be less pressure on CCP to refund everyone for Boosters and Aurum too... Fanfest Legion announcement = players leaving. |
Louis Domi
Tugastroy
955
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Posted - 2015.07.01 20:27:00 -
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Take away a trained vets some 40 million+ sp, what does that leave you with? Someone who can probably still kick you ass. If everyones has same sp then we all have same gear. So experienced vets would still have advantage |
VAHZZ
Corrosive Synergy No Context
3
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Posted - 2015.07.01 20:28:00 -
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I wouldn't mind, but I would like it if Closed/Open Beta testera get something special. Like a BPO suit or something special. Idk.
And the money back that i spent on this game. |
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