DUST Search - A controversal topic.

Indianna Pwns wrote:

So lets imagine legion happens and dust moves to PC,PS4, ZX Spectrum, whatever. You log in and discover that your characters progression has been wiped and everyone has been reverted back to noob status.

The devs announce that they decided to wipe the slate clean and completely start again with the progression and the economy.

I personally wouldn't mind even though my main currently has 35 mil SP and just over 130 mil ISK.

Pros
- Assuming a reboot brought an influx of new players the community wouldn't start off split between old high SP players and noobs.
- The economy could be properly managed this time as everyone would start poor again as opposed to another divide of the have and the have nots.
- You wouldn't be fighting the same people day in day out which would be the case if you progression moved over. Think about it, assuming CCP would be smart enough to separate noobs and vets this time, you'd just end up fighting the same small group of players you are now while all the low SP players would get that glorious new game experience of a community ranking up together.
- The game would be new and fresh again. Tired of your ugly ass Minmatar prison... err I mean quarters? Nows your chance to switch race.
- I cant stress this enough...the community wont be split day one between bitter vets and noobs.
- Devs are free to make changes to how progression works without having to accommodate players with 100 mill SP.

Cons
- Your current progression would be lost (I know people have put a lot of time and money into their character)
- Devs would have to think of a way to reward vets for their loyalty to Dust without breaking game balance (Perhaps unique skins or Quarters for every 10 mil SP a dust merc has).
- The knowledge that you would rage and throw a tantrum but them calm down and fall in line Lol

How would you react? and would you still play if you had to start again?

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Indianna Pwns TERRA R1SING New Eden's Heros 164	Posted - 2015.06.29 22:04:00 - [1] - Quote So lets imagine legion happens and dust moves to PC,PS4, ZX Spectrum, whatever. You log in and discover that your characters progression has been wiped and everyone has been reverted back to noob status. The devs announce that they decided to wipe the slate clean and completely start again with the progression and the economy. I personally wouldn't mind even though my main currently has 35 mil SP and just over 130 mil ISK. Pros - Assuming a reboot brought an influx of new players the community wouldn't start off split between old high SP players and noobs. - The economy could be properly managed this time as everyone would start poor again as opposed to another divide of the have and the have nots. - You wouldn't be fighting the same people day in day out which would be the case if you progression moved over. Think about it, assuming CCP would be smart enough to separate noobs and vets this time, you'd just end up fighting the same small group of players you are now while all the low SP players would get that glorious new game experience of a community ranking up together. - The game would be new and fresh again. Tired of your ugly ass Minmatar prison... err I mean quarters? Nows your chance to switch race. - I cant stress this enough...the community wont be split day one between bitter vets and noobs. - Devs are free to make changes to how progression works without having to accommodate players with 100 mill SP. Cons - Your current progression would be lost (I know people have put a lot of time and money into their character) - Devs would have to think of a way to reward vets for their loyalty to Dust without breaking game balance (Perhaps unique skins or Quarters for every 10 mil SP a dust merc has). - The knowledge that you would rage and throw a tantrum but them calm down and fall in line How would you react? and would you still play if you had to start again?
Moochie Cricket Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.06.29 22:28:00 - [2] - Quote The game would eventually have to be balenced for extreme gaps in skill points, such as the case now. Resetting would only be a temporary stopgap. Caldari Tribute Montage
MrCriminal High Power 63	Posted - 2015.06.29 22:28:00 - [3] - Quote If I wanted to start again I would make a alt. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ¤.°n+ín+ƒGÿåGùÅ°.LASERS BTCH!!!!!! El Diablo 666
Indianna Pwns TERRA R1SING New Eden's Heros 164	Posted - 2015.06.29 22:39:00 - [4] - Quote Obviously my post is only semi serious. I was more coming from a scenario where the game was rebranded and and large sweeping changes where made (i.e legion) instead of a simple port of what we have now. I feel like this game is so broken and it's reputation so tarnished that a clean break and a fresh start is required.
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.29 22:44:00 - [5] - Quote I can only see pros. You would earn what you want anyway. If they would let you keep old stats (sp) it would be very unbalanced from the start. In other words, NPE would suck as much as now. Ps. I would be pleasant with unique tittle and a skin. Loyal to The State Member of State Protectorate // Belongs to Patriots power bloc Civire Bloodline
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1	Posted - 2015.06.29 22:46:00 - [6] - Quote I would be on black ops 3 if they wiped my char SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
Indianna Pwns TERRA R1SING New Eden's Heros 165	Posted - 2015.06.29 22:49:00 - [7] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I would be on black ops 3 if they wiped my char You'd be back, don't deny it
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy No Context 1	Posted - 2015.06.29 22:50:00 - [8] - Quote I want ZX spectrum sinclair "gummy" version :p "Caller of the Monolith"
Radiant Pancake3 Destinys Immortals Rise Of Legion. 228	Posted - 2015.06.29 22:53:00 - [9] - Quote Indianna Pwns wrote: So lets imagine legion happens and dust moves to PC,PS4, ZX Spectrum, whatever. You log in and discover that your characters progression has been wiped and everyone has been reverted back to noob status. The devs announce that they decided to wipe the slate clean and completely start again with the progression and the economy. I personally wouldn't mind even though my main currently has 35 mil SP and just over 130 mil ISK. Pros - Assuming a reboot brought an influx of new players the community wouldn't start off split between old high SP players and noobs. - The economy could be properly managed this time as everyone would start poor again as opposed to another divide of the have and the have nots. - You wouldn't be fighting the same people day in day out which would be the case if you progression moved over. Think about it, assuming CCP would be smart enough to separate noobs and vets this time, you'd just end up fighting the same small group of players you are now while all the low SP players would get that glorious new game experience of a community ranking up together. - The game would be new and fresh again. Tired of your ugly ass Minmatar prison... err I mean quarters? Nows your chance to switch race. - I cant stress this enough...the community wont be split day one between bitter vets and noobs. - Devs are free to make changes to how progression works without having to accommodate players with 100 mill SP. Cons - Your current progression would be lost (I know people have put a lot of time and money into their character) - Devs would have to think of a way to reward vets for their loyalty to Dust without breaking game balance (Perhaps unique skins or Quarters for every 10 mil SP a dust merc has). - The knowledge that you would rage and throw a tantrum but them calm down and fall in line How would you react? and would you still play if you had to start again? The way I see it. Free Respec without getting your SP back. :3 I am the Clown of Ass or am I the Ass of Clown... o.O Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Minmatar Loyalist Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ
Jammeh McJam XxAMBUSH FTWxX General Tso's Alliance 298	Posted - 2015.06.29 22:56:00 - [10] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: I can only see pros. You would earn what you want anyway. If they would let you keep old stats (sp) it would be very unbalanced from the start. In other words, NPE would suck as much as now. Ps. I would be pleasant with unique tittle and a skin. However if you give it a while, we'll be in exactly the same position as we are now. It doesn't take long to get more SP and isk "We may be small and disorganized, but we're still gonna kill you" - Intergalactic Super Friends MAG ~ Raven vet

Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 5	Posted - 2015.06.29 22:58:00 - [11] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: I can only see pros. You would earn what you want anyway. If they would let you keep old stats (sp) it would be very unbalanced from the start. In other words, NPE would suck as much as now. Ps. I would be pleasant with unique tittle and a skin. I was reset enough times in closed beta..do it again and I won't come back..all that time grinding wasted, yeah that'd be cool. I guess if it were ported I might try it..but ps5 will be out next year Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro püépü¬püƒpü»tºüpü«pâèpââpâêpéÆsÉ+püäpü+püÖ
Balistyc Farshot MONSTER SYNERGY 240	Posted - 2015.06.29 23:03:00 - [12] - Quote I would be happy with a skin and quarters. I would expect to have some way to identify my fellow vets "Name Tag". Lastly, not asking but would subjugate the haters, Provide the first round of districts to the vet winners of some fight in Dust. "Dying with your rep tool out - the logi-flasher!" Who hasn't been caught by a cute little female scout doing this?
Indianna Pwns TERRA R1SING New Eden's Heros 166	Posted - 2015.06.29 23:05:00 - [13] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Mejt0 wrote: I can only see pros. You would earn what you want anyway. If they would let you keep old stats (sp) it would be very unbalanced from the start. In other words, NPE would suck as much as now. Ps. I would be pleasant with unique tittle and a skin. I was reset enough times in closed beta..do it again and I won't come back..all that time grinding wasted, yeah that'd be cool. I guess if it were ported I might try it..but ps5 will be out next year I totally understand why you would feel that way, but remember this would essentially be a different game. Hopefully it would feel fresh and different enough that it wouldn't be such a grind for you.
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 5	Posted - 2015.06.29 23:10:00 - [14] - Quote Indianna Pwns wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Mejt0 wrote: I can only see pros. You would earn what you want anyway. If they would let you keep old stats (sp) it would be very unbalanced from the start. In other words, NPE would suck as much as now. Ps. I would be pleasant with unique tittle and a skin. I was reset enough times in closed beta..do it again and I won't come back..all that time grinding wasted, yeah that'd be cool. I guess if it were ported I might try it..but ps5 will be out next year I totally understand why you would feel that way, but remember this would essentially be a different game. Hopefully it would feel fresh and different enough that it wouldn't be such a grind for you. True..my fear with a port to ps4 is that it's decent but not worthy of a 10 year game..it's already 3 years in and I'm sure the ps5 is being worked on then we'd need another port..but I'm not a fan of PC gaming for fps's so idk I guess any choice is better than dust on PS3...signed =ƒÿ¡ Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro püépü¬püƒpü»tºüpü«pâèpââpâêpéÆsÉ+püäpü+püÖ
Squagga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 836	Posted - 2015.06.30 00:49:00 - [15] - Quote So many other sequel games get developed for, at the time, next gen consoles. There's no reason why they can't do it, and it's not money. CCP is just cheap and lazy. Sorry about the fact that I'm not sorry Shields, the silent killer.
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 744	Posted - 2015.06.30 01:11:00 - [16] - Quote NO THANK YOU. I PUT WORK INTO MY CLONE. I MIGHT NOT BE ON LEADERBOARDS (I don't play too much cuz school and more.) BUT I HAVE SKILL AND LITS OF INVERTED SP AND ISK. NO THANK YOU. I AINT STARTING ALL KVER AGAIN. CEO of 48th Special Operations Force Twitter-@48SOF
Sned TheDead Failures inc. 377	Posted - 2015.06.30 01:38:00 - [17] - Quote eh what eves. I'd like to think my time was not wasted, but I spent one year on this game, and am more than willing to spend another, and another. I must be addicted to the grind, or the people. either way take my skills? I'll earn em' back. take my suits? I'll buy em' back. in the end, I have way too much fun with this game to let something as silly as SP dissuade me from starting again. Its all about effort and if we fight we can have everything we have now, and more then. Cleaning up the mess everyone leaves behind :)
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 853	Posted - 2015.06.30 01:41:00 - [18] - Quote Dude, there is not enough hoes and drugs in the world to console me after that. MY CPM2 PLATFORM
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 1	Posted - 2015.06.30 01:46:00 - [19] - Quote "Oh, you spent money on boosters? Screw you, thanks for the money to support the game but we have no respect for your investment of time, effort nor money." That's basically what a wipe would amount to. Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 7	Posted - 2015.06.30 01:46:00 - [20] - Quote Nope, they don't take away the sp from the vets in eve every time a release happens to ease the pains of being a new player. Instead they direct you to threads,corporations, and advice to get you through the grind. As I see it would correctly simulate the basis of EvE online on the ground "join the knowledgeable or suffer a lone". "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."

Got That Dodi RestlessSpirits 35	Posted - 2015.06.30 01:52:00 - [21] - Quote As much work as this game needs from a game play and balance perspective, I feel they would have to reset. Vets would be given something, but I don't think they would keep much, if anything, SP/equipment wise. If SP/Equipment did translate easily into a new version of Dust somewhere else, we would be basically looking at a port, pretty much the same game we have now.
Boot Booter Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.30 02:03:00 - [22] - Quote I've put a lot of time and money into this game however I wouldn't mind starting over as long as I was given something cool and unique to replace the 70 mil sp and hundreds of dollars of my moneys. I think it'd be fun to level the playing field and race towards having the best gear again.
knight guard fury Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2015.06.30 02:06:00 - [23] - Quote i wouldnt mind if they wiped everything but id prefer if they would just wipe all of our isk for everything so atleast that way we can still have our sp, but we would just have to regain our isk since sp took time, money and many many hours to get. Kin of the Vherokior tribe and warrior of the republic Self proclaimed minmatar lore master
JIMvc2 Consolidated Dust 1	Posted - 2015.06.30 02:08:00 - [24] - Quote I would go to StarWars Battlefront if all my assets and stuff was Erased >:/ I only purchased a Toxin BPO, Quafe Cal scout, Min heavy, and the Veteran pack. If that can't be transferred = I"LL BE PISSED = I don't like it when I'm angry. Why did the white girl cross the road? To get to Starbucks. <-- My GF will kill me if I ask her that lol :)
Scheneighnay McBob Penumbra or something 7	Posted - 2015.06.30 02:30:00 - [25] - Quote I personally don't give a damn. However, here's what I'm sure of: It's been confirmed that Dust vets will definitely be beta participants, probably closed beta at that. When Dust left beta, there was an SP wipe a week or 2 before release. However, that still meant testers were a week or 2 ahead. I really don'y care at this point. I've got 3 years worth of experience backing me up, I'll do well with or without my ****. Not caring about KD
Tech Ohm Eaven Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 1	Posted - 2015.06.30 02:31:00 - [26] - Quote Indianna Pwns wrote: So lets imagine legion happens and dust moves to PC,PS4, ZX Spectrum, whatever. You log in and discover that your characters progression has been wiped and everyone has been reverted back to noob status. The devs announce that they decided to wipe the slate clean and completely start again with the progression and the economy. I personally wouldn't mind even though my main currently has 35 mil SP and just over 130 mil ISK. Pros - Assuming a reboot brought an influx of new players the community wouldn't start off split between old high SP players and noobs. - The economy could be properly managed this time as everyone would start poor again as opposed to another divide of the have and the have nots. - You wouldn't be fighting the same people day in day out which would be the case if you progression moved over. Think about it, assuming CCP would be smart enough to separate noobs and vets this time, you'd just end up fighting the same small group of players you are now while all the low SP players would get that glorious new game experience of a community ranking up together. - The game would be new and fresh again. Tired of your ugly ass Minmatar prison... err I mean quarters? Nows your chance to switch race. - I cant stress this enough...the community wont be split day one between bitter vets and noobs. - Devs are free to make changes to how progression works without having to accommodate players with 100 mill SP. Cons - Your current progression would be lost (I know people have put a lot of time and money into their character) - Devs would have to think of a way to reward vets for their loyalty to Dust without breaking game balance (Perhaps unique skins or Quarters for every 10 mil SP a dust merc has). - The knowledge that you would rage and throw a tantrum but them calm down and fall in line How would you react? and would you still play if you had to start again? Maaaaybe Thats if fols wee bored with other ps4 games Even then a few weeks after and the newberries are gonna scream that they are being protostomped Three weekends to protostomping for closed beta vets who understand how to get sp
Dreis ShadowWeaver 0uter.Heaven 4	Posted - 2015.06.30 02:39:00 - [27] - Quote Hmm... Personally, I find that grinding itself is fun: it's even more fun than actually having all the SP. If the new game was exactly that - a brand new and completely different new game - then there would be less pressure on CCP to refund everyone for Boosters and Aurum too... Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
D4GG3R 0uter.Heaven 1	Posted - 2015.06.30 02:46:00 - [28] - Quote 115 mil sp down the drain.... self harm would come shortly after I'm pretty plain. I watch anime for the boobs
jpmannu 105	Posted - 2015.06.30 04:29:00 - [29] - Quote 35 mil SP is nothing.
deezy dabest Evil Syndicate Alliance. 2	Posted - 2015.06.30 05:00:00 - [30] - Quote There is a lot of people with a lot of real money involved in their SP and now even directly in their ISK so I can only imagine a wipe going very badly for the launch on whatever platform it may be. I would probably buy a PS4 for Dust but I would definitely wait for confirmation from many players on CCP having handled it right before I blow a few hundred bucks on a platform that I have absolutely zero use for otherwise. Remove NPC orbitals from FW. -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest.



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