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Posted - 2012.06.12 21:44:00 -
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Bamboo4You wrote:
So its gonna be meant to be like a halo/resistance type game. Where you're gonna have to aim for the head and put some shots into that person before they're going down.
that kind of disappoints me but still I cant step away from the fact that this game sounds awesome. How we're going to be influencing what goes in EVE. I guess I'll have to get used to it then.
It isn't I guess (i am not a dev so I don't know) suppose to be a copy of ANY game, but yes you can definitely compare killing players in halo to killing players in dust. It might be tough to get use to for players use to the games similar to the ones you have experience playing. But hey never hurts trying it eh?
I agree with you completely on your second point about the potential of the game =) |
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Posted - 2012.06.12 22:23:00 -
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I played a couple more matches and I literally got like 1 kill per match. 0_0. I'm still horrible at this game. I can't seem to kill the other person before they run away or they get me first.
What skills do i have to upgrade so i can kill people easier? And how many shots should it normally take to kill someone. One clip? I just wanna know if I'm missing all my shots lol. |
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Posted - 2012.06.12 22:26:00 -
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Bamboo4You wrote:I played a couple more matches and I literally got like 1 kill per match. 0_0. I'm still horrible at this game. I can't seem to kill the other person before they run away or they get me first.
What skills do i have to upgrade so i can kill people easier? And how many shots should it normally take to kill someone. One clip? I just wanna know if I'm missing all my shots lol.
From the sound of it, I think you might be haha. I find it odd you are only getting 1 kill per match, make sure you are doing the same thing they are when they kill you. Like move around, hit and run, strafe etc. There are skills that upgrade your weapon damage, increase reload speed, etc etc. Almost anything you can do in game there is a skill that modifies that action.
It is hard to say what YOU individually need. Id say if you want more survivability train up Mechanics to IV and Shield augmentation I think it is to IV whichever one you need to increase your shield hp. |
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Posted - 2012.06.12 23:19:00 -
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counter logic wrote:Bamboo4You wrote:I played a couple more matches and I literally got like 1 kill per match. 0_0. I'm still horrible at this game. I can't seem to kill the other person before they run away or they get me first.
What skills do i have to upgrade so i can kill people easier? And how many shots should it normally take to kill someone. One clip? I just wanna know if I'm missing all my shots lol. From the sound of it, I think you might be haha. I find it odd you are only getting 1 kill per match, make sure you are doing the same thing they are when they kill you. Like move around, hit and run, strafe etc. There are skills that upgrade your weapon damage, increase reload speed, etc etc. Almost anything you can do in game there is a skill that modifies that action. It is hard to say what YOU individually need. Id say if you want more survivability train up Mechanics to IV and Shield augmentation I think it is to IV whichever one you need to increase your shield hp.
Ever thought about getting a heavy suit with an HMG, Bamboo? Could be it's more your style, and your survivability will certainly go up a little bit.
The militia heavy dropsuit has no skill requirement I think so you only need to train up for the HMG (weaponry 3, heavy machine gun operation 1) and you're good to go. Perhaps it will be easier to hit people if you're spewing out 30 bullets per second... just saying. ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png)
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Posted - 2012.06.13 00:52:00 -
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Lucas Gauss wrote:counter logic wrote:Bamboo4You wrote:I played a couple more matches and I literally got like 1 kill per match. 0_0. I'm still horrible at this game. I can't seem to kill the other person before they run away or they get me first.
What skills do i have to upgrade so i can kill people easier? And how many shots should it normally take to kill someone. One clip? I just wanna know if I'm missing all my shots lol. From the sound of it, I think you might be haha. I find it odd you are only getting 1 kill per match, make sure you are doing the same thing they are when they kill you. Like move around, hit and run, strafe etc. There are skills that upgrade your weapon damage, increase reload speed, etc etc. Almost anything you can do in game there is a skill that modifies that action. It is hard to say what YOU individually need. Id say if you want more survivability train up Mechanics to IV and Shield augmentation I think it is to IV whichever one you need to increase your shield hp. Ever thought about getting a heavy suit with an HMG, Bamboo? Could be it's more your style, and your survivability will certainly go up a little bit. The militia heavy dropsuit has no skill requirement I think so you only need to train up for the HMG (weaponry 3, heavy machine gun operation 1) and you're good to go. Perhaps it will be easier to hit people if you're spewing out 30 bullets per second... just saying. ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png)
I'm gonna finish up my training for assault rifle then move on to the hmg. I don't know whats with me but i've gotten a tiny bit better. Still, I can't seem to make kills I usually get assists and even if i do its a long marathon of hopping around and reloading while the other guy unloads. |
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Posted - 2012.06.13 00:52:00 -
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And also I know i'm part of the guristas but is there a way to change that? Do different factions have different skills or something? |
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Posted - 2012.06.13 01:41:00 -
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Bamboo4You wrote:And also I know i'm part of the guristas but is there a way to change that? Do different factions have different skills or something?
You can't change corp as far as I know, and you have been assigned to one randomly when you made the char. (although all the blood raiders seem to be coming from europe according to a thread on our corp forum)
But there is no difference between them, they don't have different skills or anything. Just some backstory if yer interested. |
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Posted - 2012.06.13 05:50:00 -
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bumping this cause its needed. |
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Posted - 2012.06.13 16:21:00 -
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Tal Kora wrote:bumping this cause its needed.
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Posted - 2012.06.13 18:53:00 -
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Added some info on player History in EVE and I will be adding shortly information explaining Corporations and Alliances. |
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Posted - 2012.06.13 19:27:00 -
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This seems like a good place to post this as it may assist new players and more experianced players as well. I am pretty much a full on assault trooper that assist his buddies and throws down some nanohives for the heavies and such. I WANT to wear full proto, full complex armor/shield, and top of the line equipment BUT, that **** costs crazy amounts of cashe. Currently with just full proto and complex shield and armor repair I am at near 35k or so. With top end nanohives, grenades, ect ect I will easily hit 40k.
In a match I get anywhere between 60-120k, and 120k being a VERY lucky match. How does this work? I read that it depends on the other players dropsuits and stuff? Whats that about. I played a match with the full proto and such and ensured I didn't die, I did great, got like 20 kills a no deaths, hacked the **** out of everything, it was awesome. But when the match was over I barely got 70k? If I died 2 times I would have pretty much gained nothing...that kinda sucks? I want to be able to get in a tank and maybe try out a dropship, but im not going to do it if I can barely afford my damn suit. Do I just have to not use proto suits and proto gear?
How is everyone else doing on the money factor, any tips and such on how to increase money flow? I could really use some advice and assistance on this and I think everyone could benefit on some money tips. |
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Posted - 2012.06.13 19:35:00 -
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Sclab wrote:This seems like a good place to post this as it may assist new players and more experianced players as well. I am pretty much a full on assault trooper that assist his buddies and throws down some nanohives for the heavies and such. I WANT to wear full proto, full complex armor/shield, and top of the line equipment BUT, that **** costs crazy amounts of cashe. Currently with just full proto and complex shield and armor repair I am at near 35k or so. With top end nanohives, grenades, ect ect I will easily hit 40k.
In a match I get anywhere between 60-120k, and 120k being a VERY lucky match. How does this work? I read that it depends on the other players dropsuits and stuff? Whats that about. I played a match with the full proto and such and ensured I didn't die, I did great, got like 20 kills a no deaths, hacked the **** out of everything, it was awesome. But when the match was over I barely got 70k? If I died 2 times I would have pretty much gained nothing...that kinda sucks? I want to be able to get in a tank and maybe try out a dropship, but im not going to do it if I can barely afford my damn suit. Do I just have to not use proto suits and proto gear?
How is everyone else doing on the money factor, any tips and such on how to increase money flow? I could really use some advice and assistance on this and I think everyone could benefit on some money tips.
Very reasonable concern. Right now the income levels are skewed for two reasons. One is that the modifier for the current reward equation is 4x to accelerate testing of higher end mods. Two there are no corporation battles aka contracts to take so the amount of overall ISK we have is very small in comparison to the Trillions of ISK in the EVE online economy.
So it is hard to say what will earn you the most money, I can have games where I use my expensive 30k a suit heavy and get like 30-40 kills and only die once or twice and only get 20-40k isk and on the flip side I can also earn upwards of 150k in a similar situation. Also using an assault militia suit (all free gear) I can earn the same amounts I do in my expensive suit. More in practicality because I don't lost ISK from dying with all free gear.
The best way to MAKE ISK right now is to use militia gear and just play well. Then when you have a good buffer of money just play your expensive toys and then maybe play some games with militia stuff to recoup any losses etc. That is your best bet right now until corp contracts are made a feature in the game and you can start racking up serious ISK. |
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Posted - 2012.06.13 19:44:00 -
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+1 For Sticky. Nice job Mr Logic |
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Posted - 2012.06.14 00:26:00 -
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What would you guys like me to touch on next? I have a copr/alliance post in the works but I would like some new player feedback on something that might be helpful to add =) |
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Posted - 2012.06.14 02:44:00 -
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Friendly bump.
Also, this thread deserves a sticky. |
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Posted - 2012.06.14 03:13:00 -
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Took me a while to find this thread again lol. Its very helpful.
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Posted - 2012.06.14 03:17:00 -
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*Doesn't see rule against bumping for sticky* Bump!
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Posted - 2012.06.14 03:20:00 -
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Miles Alari wrote: *Doesn't see rule against bumping for sticky* Bump!
There is a rule against bumping in the forum rules, but it is loosely enforced. But to be safe lets just talk instead.
I'll start.
HI! |
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Posted - 2012.06.14 03:57:00 -
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counter logic wrote:What would you guys like me to touch on next? I have a copr/alliance post in the works but I would like some new player feedback on something that might be helpful to add =)
I was thinking maybe something to teach some of the new players about why it takes forever to kill somebody in the game or something similar to that idk. Maybe some tips for them to get past the first couple of matches so they could level up skills.
The reason I'm saying this is because when I first played this game the thing that got to me most was the health. I was furious at how long it would take to kill ONE dude and since I was new I didn't know ANYTHING about skills, different tiers of guns, and how they would help me kill people easier.
If I was one of those BF3 or COD guys I would've probably just gave up on this game by then. The only thing that stopped me was the fact this game had so much potential and me being a M.A.G guy its one of the few games I know of on the ps3 market that has huge player battles.
Bottom line, let the noobs know that the misery does end and once you learn how to play the game its gonna be a great game! |
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Well, at least the first 6 posts of this thread were not eye-bleedingly painful like the 10-post-wall-of-text Manifesto posted by James315 in the Eve forums about how miners are the scourge of New Eden. |
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Posted - 2012.06.14 04:50:00 -
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Got to say thanks for all the info now time to go check out all the links |
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Cantus wrote:Well, at least the first 6 posts of this thread were not eye-bleedingly painful like the 10-post-wall-of-text Manifesto posted by James315 in the Eve forums about how miners are the scourge of New Eden.
Heh, I remember that. Was pretty damn funny.
So eh, still no sticky?
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:21:00 -
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:23:00 -
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Hi Counterlogic. I own Dust514.org. I have been very impressed by this thread!
please could you get in contact at [email protected]
I would like to have a chat with you :) |
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Thanks for the information. I'm a new in the EVE universe and this has help me to understand better the mechanics of the game. |
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Posted - 2012.06.14 16:50:00 -
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Thank goodness this exists. I'm a complete noob and this universe is as daunting is as it is intriguing. Couple that with my lack of experience with FPS games, if it wasn't for the rich background and seemingly endless customization and development, I probably would be too intimidated to get involved.
As a beginner, I'm curious about if player organized teams form. If so, how can I go about joining such a group. If I were an experienced player, I surely wouldn't want to have dead weight like myself as a member. What's the best way to go about getting better? The few times I've tried my hand at online shooters, I couldn't survive long enough to even become accustomed to the controls.
Can't believe this thread hasn't reached sticky status yet.
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counter logic wrote:Miles Alari wrote: *Doesn't see rule against bumping for sticky* Bump!
There is a rule against bumping in the forum rules, but it is loosely enforced. But to be safe lets just talk instead. I'll start. HI!
Hi!
I am squeeing about the mention of destroyers being used for orbital bombardment (then found someone else had beat me here on mentioning it! ^_^ ). I can fly larger ships -- I'm currently considering finishing Amarr Battleship-V for the sole purpose of adding Amarr to the races where I can fly the carrier and dreadnought (Gallente and Caldari), as I already have all of the capital weapons skills -- but I really do spend most of my time in rookie ships and frigates. If destroyers get a DUST 514 role, I may just spend a lot of time in them -- assuming that all of my game play isn't boots on the ground! :D
For those wondering about what planets do in EVE Online, a lot of the EVE manufacturing (and a lot of the starbase (POS) fuel) uses stuff from Planetary Interaction: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Planetary_interaction
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Posted - 2012.06.14 18:21:00 -
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K, so kalik I sent you an email about getting in touch.
As for the other post regarding team play and basically corporations/alliances. I am working on that but it may take a bit longer to get out as I am also currently studying for a computer science quiz at college >.< so bare with me!
I will also add something on tactics to try for beginners who are not used to having to go through shields and armor of an opponent to kill them!
Stay tuned and spread the word about this thread and lets see if we can't get it stickied! |
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Alexi Darkbloom wrote:Thank goodness this exists. I'm a complete noob and this universe is as daunting is as it is intriguing. Couple that with my lack of experience with FPS games, if it wasn't for the rich background and seemingly endless customization and development, I probably would be too intimidated to get involved.
As a beginner, I'm curious about if player organized teams form. If so, how can I go about joining such a group. If I were an experienced player, I surely wouldn't want to have dead weight like myself as a member. What's the best way to go about getting better? The few times I've tried my hand at online shooters, I couldn't survive long enough to even become accustomed to the controls.
Can't believe this thread hasn't reached sticky status yet.
The best way to get better is to be around experienced players willing to help you improve. From my experience in FPS, having familiar people watching your back makes things a lot easier. You know what their habits and style of play are and you can compliment each other better and shield each others weaknesses.
And of course, practice and LOTS of it! No one got any better without taking their hits like a good sport. Even if your Kill/Death Ratio starts off lopsided as hell, there is always ways to contribute towards your friends. Heck even a Kill/Death Ratio that yields more assists then kills is vital because it's more bullets taking down a target. Support characters are perhaps even more vital then guys like me who constantly attack and shoot the enemy because they keep guys like me at full strength and full on ammo.
In short do not get discouraged by your kill/death ratio. Ultimately what matters is completing the objective by any means. If your team does that alone then you have done well. |
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