I would even go as far as removing enemy names from the killfeed.

PC should be hard. It is too easy to figure out an opposing teams strategy just by who they bring in. It would add a whole new dimension of strategy and deception. Imagine coming across an enemy and not knowing whether it is Kalente or King Thunderbolt, or if you are even going up against a full 16. Maybe they only sent 10 B team mercs in to make noise and keep you at that district while the A team hits the real target. You would never know.

If you wanted to get crazy, maybe incorporate raiding districts with rewards granting you the intel?

We have actually discussed this, even for pubs. You can see the list after the match.

We have actually discussed this, even for pubs. You can see the list after the match.

Maybe not PC and FW matches because people use actual, you know, strategies in those.

But for Pub matches I quite like the idea for the reason that Aeon mentioned. Stops people checking out the player list and deciding it'll easy or hard and promptly sodding off if its the latter.

I think it is a novel suggestion and one that would shake things up in the battle preparation for sure but... It doesn't really make sense to me that there would be no advance intel on the composition of the other team... Sure, maybe knowing actual merc names is something that doesn't need to me obvious at the outset of a battle but at least knowing the tags/corps that are involved seems like it should be within the grasp of technology 22,000 years in the future...

As an example, maybe think of it in terms of the movie Braveheart... You look across the battlefield to see the English force on one side and the Scottish, Irish and other contingents that are remarkable based on their attire, battle gear, flags...

I mean, IRL today we have technology that can read license plates from drones or satellites but in 22,000 years battle tech has diminished to having practically no intelligence in the minutes leading up to the fight? other than the attacking/defending corp's name which becomes meaningless with ringers particularly if you can't see at least the corp tags that are participating...

And if we are going to remove the player list from the warbage, you may as well just turn off the lights completely and have everyone bumping around in a big dark room since the recent removal of squad/team lists made it extremely difficulty to simply adjust how your team is allocated across squads... To completely remove player list will eliminate any possibility to moving squad members around...

I don't hate this idea, above are just some of my thoughts around the topic... Maybe it makes more sense in Pubs to reduce the reasons for people to quit the fight when they some big baddies that are about to push their teeth in...

We have actually discussed this, even for pubs. You can see the list after the match.

It is better that you keep this idea but for an other concept of battle. I propose to remove list of player for the wormhole space.
No alliee, no friend in the unknow space.
1 vs 31.
No alliee, no friend.

No HUD.

We have actually discussed this, even for pubs. You can see the list after the match.

We have actually discussed this, even for pubs. You can see the list after the match.

1) No issues from me here
2) Fundamentally disagree
3) Disagree

For suggestion 2, I personally believe that expense should always be part of the equation. Bleeding out your opponent's wallets - either in small scale skirmishes or as a War tactic - should be a viable victory condition. I think that the vast wallets of many players is a huge reason why stomping in proto suits is so prolific. Proto suits were still rare and very expensive (particularly heavies) before the asset wipe.

For suggestion 3, I think that we need alternative ways to make money, instead of giving more help to the losers. PvE, Player Trading, and Manufacturing come to mind. If players feel like they can fund some PvP action by doing some easier work on the side, then the disparity between winning and losing payouts seems more acceptable to me. If I've made 30 mil off of player trading, ISK will be "out of the equation" for as much of that 30m as I budget for PvP.

I think that alternative, lucrative methods of making money will reduce the strain of feeling like you need to make 500K in a pub match to break even after a loss.

Isn't one of the (sorta) useful traits of Dust knowing people's strategies and fits and using that information agaimst them? Perhaps from the in battle text, but letting teammates know about certain threats ie which tanker is the one with 2 reps v or the one with 2 hardeners, or which guy is running the alex hmg vs assault hmg vs burst hmg for heavies. I enjoy that strayegic element. Especially since most pc people have allianced up and removed removed what little espionage that could be done in Dust.

We have actually discussed this, even for pubs. You can see the list after the match.

You dont eliminate the problem by hiding who you are up against. Its then just going to be that when you die 3 times in a row you leave the match cause you have a general idea who you are up against. I could just run some router tools from my PC and highlight the IP's from prominent stompers/corps that do not belong to my region.

See 6 people from NA via IP check= leave battle
See 6 people from japan via IP check= leave battle

What you are about to do is just implement more scrubbery to the game and alienate your allready small playerbase.

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This whole thread, save for the OP and rattati's response pretty much disgusts me.

You dont eliminate the problem by hiding who you are up against.

that's pathetic.

That's really, incredibly pathetic.

People are b*tching nonstop about people leaving matches, I don't want to be put in matches too late, and the turn around and VEHEMENTLY argue against eliminating the intel that allows people to go "Huh, that'll be a challenge, since I want to stomp, not fight, I'm out."

This whole thread, save for the OP and rattati's response pretty much disgusts me. With the low playerbase, we aren't going to have good matchmaking precisely because of this attitude.

People screamed for good matchmaking and good fights. When the matchmaking works? people instantly b*tch out.

Pull off the bandaid and remove people's ability to easily spot challenges and evacuate. This crap is really getting old and not fun.