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fragmentedhackslash
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.18 17:29:00 -
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So much alike many veterans and also new players, we all have had the same experiences right?
Well I'm calling out the whole lot. CCP,the DevTeam and lolCPM for not doing their fkn job.
I'm in Australia, which is currently an 'unsupported region' this is because who ever made the call, was lazy. Simple as that. Oceanic was shut what near a year ago now? Why? you may ask... it was shut for the simple reason of laziness.
Oceanic was proliferated by cheaters, CCP are well, well aware of this because I was the only one constantly reporting all killboosters. It was terrible, aside from PC locking and 'stun lock' (which no one believed me about for 16 months) Oceanic and the cheating there was game breaking. So instead of stopping the mechanics, they shut the region.
At the time I had 2IC of an Australian based corp and had direct tactical command of over 600 players, 900 players in affiliated corps. The day Oceanic shut, it all disappeared. That day. 8 premier Australain based corps closed that week, and never recovered. Australian player base disintergrated.
DO YOUR FKN JOB CCP.
lolCPM has done absolutly nothing positive for this game. Nothing. I litterally quote here 'We could NOT be bothered fixing the lag'. Seriously? The one thing that the community has been screaming for is smooth gameplay. 3 years later, and 90% of the player base has left, we still put up with this shite? Not me. Playing from Australia, I need to talk to Tokyo, *because apparently that is just north of Sydney* then talk to the region I deploy into, then to Iceland, back to deployed region, back to Tokyo and then to my region, then to console. This is NOT acceptable. If you look at how many Australians that there were and how many there is now in the DUST 514 playerbase you would realise that we got absoultly shat upon. Fk That. You know what is even worse? Asian killboosters that used to decimate Oceanic STILL do it on Tokyo Automatic and Asian region, when it runs, if ever. Asian region has not had a connectable and live match apart from domination for what 2 months now? I litterally just spent 6 hours testing this. Not a single match on Asia region. Guess that happens when you don't do your job.
DO YOUR FKN JOB CPM.
DevTeam
Removed all protoype vehicals, Old tanks and Logistics dropships. No reason given. This is pathetic. Freely allowed killboosting, warpoint boosting, wall hacks from under the map, and PC locking for 3 years AND all this STILL OCCURS! w.t.f. Removed Lag City from PC rotation, obvious, haven't done so for public matches. Minmatar scout and Minmatar Logistics. STILL the only suits NEVER to have their base stats equalused, over two years, not even touched once. This is pathetic.
DO YOUR FKN JOB DEVTEAM.
Seriously. There have been very basic, very basic things that the commubity have been asking for to fix and re-implement for years now. How's about time to start doing it?
~frag Negative Feedback
[49FYD FRAG] INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR
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Deputy Ivanna JakinUnoff
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Posted - 2015.06.18 17:35:00 -
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Take a deep breath. It may all be true. But your delivery will fall on deaf ears because of sore Egos.
If you rant is over, delete it or take the inevitable involuntary vacation coming your way. Do it before someone quotes you.
I'm not the CPBM that you need or want, But the one you deserve.
McLovin for CPBM2
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
663
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Posted - 2015.06.18 17:35:00 -
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Jesus Christ....... Calm down. Have a Quafe and talk it out in a nicer manner with CCP.
CEO of 48th Special Operations Force
Twitter-@48SOF
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Robert Conway
Concordiat Mercenaries
405
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Posted - 2015.06.18 18:18:00 -
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CCP, if you can find it in your generous heart, try not to ban him for long. He is just frustrated. :- /
Yassavi Approved. -Aero Yassavi
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Darkstalker Astrea
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2015.06.18 19:24:00 -
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My jerky jerk reaction to this is :
RESOURCES
As in this team has LIMITED RESOURCES
You kinda have to trust CCP on server issues. I'm willing to bet that if keeping a server active was more cost effective than not, it would be active.
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VAHZZ
Corrosive Synergy No Context
2
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Posted - 2015.06.18 19:26:00 -
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YOUR TEARS ARE DELICIOUS!
GÖ˘ Scouts United - Join the Scout channel. GÖ˘
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Count- -Crotchula
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.18 19:53:00 -
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mmm i like a nice cup of quafe. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6
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Posted - 2015.06.18 20:10:00 -
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And this children is how you write a post that will just **** CCP off and make them ignore everything you just said.
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
Dust514 // Podcast & Blog
www.biomassed.net
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Deputy Ivanna JakinUnoff
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Posted - 2015.06.18 20:37:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:And this children is how you write a post that will just **** CCP off and make them ignore everything you just said.
Instead of stating the obvious,,,does the OP have any valid points? Maybe he isnt good at expressing him self or so frustrated that he just needed to vent.
You have never felt like that?
I kinda expected more of a political answer from you being that you want to be CPM2. Might have been good to nonchalantly put some of your agenda out there. Maybe a little less trolly next time.
I'm not the CPBM that you need or want, But the one you deserve.
McLovin for CPBM2
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Indianna Pwns
TERRA R1SING New Eden's Heros
149
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Posted - 2015.06.18 20:47:00 -
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To all those lecturing the OP on how to better conduct himself, just take a step back and remember he's an aussie.
They literally tell it how it is and couldn't care less if your offended. Swearing is as natural as breathing to them, just count yourselves lucky he didn't drop the C bomb
Doesn't make his opinion any less valid. |
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
5
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Posted - 2015.06.18 20:53:00 -
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Hey man.
I don't know where you got that quote from the CPM but it seems false and I'd love to see proof because that's not how the CPM should be speaking to the community.
I can't even begin to understand how frustrating it might have been to have the Oceanic server shut down.
My only comparison would be when red wedding happened and I was at fanfest and I came back and my corp and many others I had friends in all packed up and left the game en masse over the next 2 weeks.
I lost almost all my closest advisors and directors in a sweep of change i was unprepared for.
It hurt a lot to log on for the next few weeks, and some of those people I had no other way to contact because stupid PSN limiting the friends list :(
I can't pretend to tell you that we can bring back the Oceanic server.
But I can tell you that if there's a lot of support for it, our job is to push that common agenda to CCP, even if we know the chances are slim to nil.
So if there are many others out there that would like the Oceanic server back please try to rally support around threads like this and make noise.
The squeaky wheel get the grease and I wouldn't be here if you hadn't made this thread.
Sure, it may have been more efficacious in rallying support for your cause if it wasn't poorly written emotion, but that's why I advise you to go find whoever you can, and get people to support the change.
Have a good one man.
Founder & CEO of Fatal Absolution
Skype: Zatara.Rought Email: Zatara.Forever@gmail
official pawn of ArkenaKirkMerc
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ROMULUS H3X
research lab
558
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Posted - 2015.06.18 20:59:00 -
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Truth is being spoken no matter the construct or delivery.
FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS
PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH
ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!
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Deputy Ivanna JakinUnoff
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Posted - 2015.06.18 21:02:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Hey man.
I don't know where you got that quote from the CPM but it seems false and I'd love to see proof because that's not how the CPM should be speaking to the community.
I can't even begin to understand how frustrating it might have been to have the Oceanic server shut down.
My only comparison would be when red wedding happened and I was at fanfest and I came back and my corp and many others I had friends in all packed up and left the game en masse over the next 2 weeks.
I lost almost all my closest advisors and directors in a sweep of change i was unprepared for.
It hurt a lot to log on for the next few weeks, and some of those people I had no other way to contact because stupid PSN limiting the friends list :(
I can't pretend to tell you that we can bring back the Oceanic server.
But I can tell you that if there's a lot of support for it, our job is to push that common agenda to CCP, even if we know the chances are slim to nil.
So if there are many others out there that would like the Oceanic server back please try to rally support around threads like this and make noise.
The squeaky wheel get the grease and I wouldn't be here if you hadn't made this thread.
Sure, it may have been more efficacious in rallying support for your cause if it wasn't poorly written emotion, but that's why I advise you to go find whoever you can, and get people to support the change.
Have a good one man.
Maybe Pokey should take a page outta the Book of Princess on how to chill out a thread instead of troll.
I'm not the CPBM that you need or want, But the one you deserve.
McLovin for CPBM2
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Deputy Ivanna JakinUnoff
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Posted - 2015.06.18 21:03:00 -
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Indianna Pwns wrote:To all those lecturing the OP on how to better conduct himself, just take a step back and remember he's an aussie. They literally tell it how it is and couldn't care less if your offended. Swearing is as natural as breathing to them, just count yourselves lucky he didn't drop the C bomb Doesn't make his opinion any less valid.
Wasnt lecturing him,,,I didnt wanna see him get the Sandal for 2 weeks or more for telling the truth. You have to play their game or they just give you a vacation.
I'm not the CPBM that you need or want, But the one you deserve.
McLovin for CPBM2
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
5
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Posted - 2015.06.18 21:11:00 -
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ROMULUS H3X wrote:Truth is being spoken no matter the construct or delivery.
It's a matter of efficaciousness in the delivery of the message.
Founder & CEO of Fatal Absolution
Skype: Zatara.Rought Email: Zatara.Forever@gmail
official pawn of ArkenaKirkMerc
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fragmentedhackslash
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
370
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Posted - 2015.06.18 21:12:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Hey man.
I don't know where you got that quote from the CPM but it seems false and I'd love to see proof because that's not how the CPM should be speaking to the community.
I can't even begin to understand how frustrating it might have been to have the Oceanic server shut down.
My only comparison would be when red wedding happened and I was at fanfest and I came back and my corp and many others I had friends in all packed up and left the game en masse over the next 2 weeks.
I lost almost all my closest advisors and directors in a sweep of change i was unprepared for.
It hurt a lot to log on for the next few weeks, and some of those people I had no other way to contact because stupid PSN limiting the friends list :(
I can't pretend to tell you that we can bring back the Oceanic server.
But I can tell you that if there's a lot of support for it, our job is to push that common agenda to CCP, even if we know the chances are slim to nil.
So if there are many others out there that would like the Oceanic server back please try to rally support around threads like this and make noise.
The squeaky wheel get the grease and I wouldn't be here if you hadn't made this thread.
Sure, it may have been more efficacious in rallying support for your cause if it wasn't poorly written emotion, but that's why I advise you to go find whoever you can, and get people to support the change.
Have a good one man.
I will remind you of something?
ALL Australian based players, from the day OCEANIC was dropped as a supported region have suffered rolling disconnects in their Merc querters standing there doing nothing, in the middle of matches that they just dumped a million into the fight we get rolling disconnects, we can't even connect to voice communications without rolling disconnects, let alone engage in PC Battles.
I run RAZORWORK, a now 12 year old EvE side channel that I still can't administer DUST side for lack of UI tools, no matter, I still ran for 2 years 'PayDirt' the only DUST RADIO channel thay offered fittings advice, a weekly talkback programme, tactics and deployment techniques, squad mechanic overvies for infantry and vehical Squad leads, basic tutorials etc.
This was my community contribution. On top of Tactical Command of 900 affiliated players. RAZORWORK rarely, rarely came out of Delayed (aka local, where everyone is invisable until they type) because it was the go to place for vets and new players alike to X up and kill stuff.
Now I can't even transmit voice communications to my own corp members in squad let alone anything else.
So tell me, how should I engage with the community when I like the rest of my regions plaayer base, litterally can't talk to each other? That was sarcastic by the way. Asking a CPM how to engage with other players starts by actually playing this game.
At least you didnt tell me I was wrong. Emotional, fk yes, I've had enough of this bullshite. Wrong? No.
[49FYD FRAG] INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
5
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Posted - 2015.06.18 21:31:00 -
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Why is it that when i connected to the EU servers to go look for EU talent...I never experienced any of those issues you just described?
Of course i wouldn't tell you you're wrong. <3
I understand the conundrum of having your server silenced and then being given the suggestion to rally a cause to change things.
But that's the best and most tried and true way of getting changes implemented.
If someone has a better idea then by all means don't listen to this old geyser.
I'm just trying to offer help. =)
Founder & CEO of Fatal Absolution
Skype: Zatara.Rought Email: Zatara.Forever@gmail
official pawn of ArkenaKirkMerc
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fragmentedhackslash
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
372
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Posted - 2015.06.18 21:38:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:ROMULUS H3X wrote:Truth is being spoken no matter the construct or delivery.
It's a matter of efficaciousness in the delivery of the message.
Ok. Anyone know what this means?
Simple English please. I come from a convict country that was stopen land by Englands democracy.
Efficaciou... what the entire flux?
Suppose, that and completly disregarding any of the statements I made in regard of the OP and turning it straight around into an 'we might do our jobs but the chance is nil' remind sme of the binary Legion crap. Speaking of? How's that working out? oh it's binary.
*SMACKS MY HEAD.
again, you didnt say I was wrong, all you did was misdirection Didn't work, Won't work. New CPM motto right there.
[49FYD FRAG] INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR
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REDBACK96USMC
NORTH K0REA
208
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Posted - 2015.06.18 22:00:00 -
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I hate to tell you, but after looking at the pipes coming out of Australia to the rest of the world. You're ****** regardless. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary
7
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Posted - 2015.06.18 22:01:00 -
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Haven't seen you in a while.
Did you just get done with another ban or what?
Rule 34.6.1: every parody will have a crossover
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fragmentedhackslash
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.18 22:08:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Haven't seen you in a while.
Did you just get done with another ban or what?
No I don't waste my time in the garbage dump these forums have turned into unless I'm pushed into saying the blaringly obvious.
[49FYD FRAG] INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2015.06.18 22:33:00 -
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fragmentedhackslash wrote:So much alike many veterans and also new players, we all have had the same experiences right?
Well I'm calling out the whole lot. CCP,the DevTeam and lolCPM for not doing their fkn job.
I'm in Australia, which is currently an 'unsupported region' this is because who ever made the call, was lazy. Simple as that. Oceanic was shut what near a year ago now? Why? you may ask... it was shut for the simple reason of laziness.
Oceanic was proliferated by cheaters, CCP are well, well aware of this because I was the only one constantly reporting all killboosters. It was terrible, aside from PC locking and 'stun lock' (which no one believed me about for 16 months) Oceanic and the cheating there was game breaking. So instead of stopping the mechanics, they shut the region.
At the time I had 2IC of an Australian based corp and had direct tactical command of over 600 players, 900 players in affiliated corps. The day Oceanic shut, it all disappeared. That day. 8 premier Australain based corps closed that week, and never recovered. Australian player base disintergrated.
DO YOUR FKN JOB CCP.
lolCPM has done absolutly nothing positive for this game. Nothing. I litterally quote here 'We could NOT be bothered fixing the lag'. Seriously? The one thing that the community has been screaming for is smooth gameplay. 3 years later, and 90% of the player base has left, we still put up with this shite? Not me. Playing from Australia, I need to talk to Tokyo, *because apparently that is just north of Sydney* then talk to the region I deploy into, then to Iceland, back to deployed region, back to Tokyo and then to my region, then to console. This is NOT acceptable. If you look at how many Australians that there were and how many there is now in the DUST 514 playerbase you would realise that we got absoultly shat upon. Fk That. You know what is even worse? Asian killboosters that used to decimate Oceanic STILL do it on Tokyo Automatic and Asian region, when it runs, if ever. Asian region has not had a connectable and live match apart from domination for what 2 months now? I litterally just spent 6 hours testing this. Not a single match on Asia region. Guess that happens when you don't do your job.
DO YOUR FKN JOB CPM.
DevTeam
Removed all protoype vehicals, Old tanks and Logistics dropships. No reason given. This is pathetic. Freely allowed killboosting, warpoint boosting, wall hacks from under the map, and PC locking for 3 years AND all this STILL OCCURS! w.t.f. Removed Lag City from PC rotation, obvious, haven't done so for public matches. Minmatar scout and Minmatar Logistics. STILL the only suits NEVER to have their base stats equalused, over two years, not even touched once. This is pathetic.
DO YOUR FKN JOB DEVTEAM.
Seriously. There have been very basic, very basic things that the commubity have been asking for to fix and re-implement for years now. How's about time to start doing it?
~frag Negative Feedback
I think you need to calm down. Here, play some Splatoon.
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TechMechMeds
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
6
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Posted - 2015.06.18 23:53:00 -
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If they did their job then you'd be banned and this thread would be locked.
Be happy lol.
I am GJRs Renfield.
You heard it here first, I told you so.
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Protocake JR
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
1
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Posted - 2015.06.18 23:58:00 -
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Crikey...
I never knew it was that bad. Supported.
Y-axis sensitivity: 100%
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Kinky Fat Bastard
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
27
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Posted - 2015.06.19 00:05:00 -
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Have you run out of sheep? |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
172
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Posted - 2015.06.19 00:12:00 -
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fragmentedhackslash wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:ROMULUS H3X wrote:Truth is being spoken no matter the construct or delivery.
It's a matter of efficaciousness in the delivery of the message. Ok. Anyone know what this means? Simple English please. I come from a convict country that was stolen land by Englands democracy. Efficaciou... what the entire flux? Suppose, that and completly disregarding any of the statements I made in regard of the OP and turning it straight around into an 'we might do our jobs but the chance is nil' remind sme of the binary Legion crap. Speaking of? How's that working out? oh it's binary. *SMACKS MY HEAD. again, you didnt say I was wrong, all you did was misdirection Didn't work, Won't work. New CPM motto right there. He's telling you that if you don't say things the way CPM wants to hear it they will ignore you outright, as they feel this is justified since CCP outright ignores them. Or do I'd assume.
You should be easier on CPM, they do voice up a lot against CCP, but what can you do when CCP constantly replies with, 'Can't" |
fragmentedhackslash
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.19 00:25:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:fragmentedhackslash wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:ROMULUS H3X wrote:Truth is being spoken no matter the construct or delivery.
It's a matter of efficaciousness in the delivery of the message. Ok. Anyone know what this means? Simple English please. I come from a convict country that was stolen land by Englands democracy. Efficaciou... what the entire flux? Suppose, that and completly disregarding any of the statements I made in regard of the OP and turning it straight around into an 'we might do our jobs but the chance is nil' remind sme of the binary Legion crap. Speaking of? How's that working out? oh it's binary. *SMACKS MY HEAD. again, you didnt say I was wrong, all you did was misdirection Didn't work, Won't work. New CPM motto right there. He's telling you that if you don't say things the way CPM wants to hear it they will ignore you outright, as they feel this is justified since CCP outright ignores them. Or so I'd assume. You should be easier on CPM, they do voice up a lot against CCP, but what can you do when CCP constantly replies with, 'Can't"
That is exactly.the kind of.mentality that allows slack.
No more. it is a group effort.
The dedicated players are still here, no one listens to them.
The majority of CPM doesnt even play Dust. So why should CCP take on board their views.
CCP failed in their efforts with CPM, good ideal didnt work, and the now extreamly limited payroll Dust has is broken into split shifts of EvE and Dust.
The majority of Dust work that is actually under way has, and is BREAKFIX. If it is broken, fix it. Like the squad problem the other day, that was possibly two if not one tech working on it. Not a team.
SLACK.
NO MORE.
[49FYD FRAG] INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
172
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Posted - 2015.06.19 00:32:00 -
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fragmentedhackslash wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:fragmentedhackslash wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:ROMULUS H3X wrote:Truth is being spoken no matter the construct or delivery.
It's a matter of efficaciousness in the delivery of the message. Ok. Anyone know what this means? Simple English please. I come from a convict country that was stolen land by Englands democracy. Efficaciou... what the entire flux? Suppose, that and completly disregarding any of the statements I made in regard of the OP and turning it straight around into an 'we might do our jobs but the chance is nil' remind sme of the binary Legion crap. Speaking of? How's that working out? oh it's binary. *SMACKS MY HEAD. again, you didnt say I was wrong, all you did was misdirection Didn't work, Won't work. New CPM motto right there. He's telling you that if you don't say things the way CPM wants to hear it they will ignore you outright, as they feel this is justified since CCP outright ignores them. Or so I'd assume. You should be easier on CPM, they do voice up a lot against CCP, but what can you do when CCP constantly replies with, 'Can't" That is exactly.the kind of.mentality that allows slack. No more. it is a group effort. The dedicated players are still here, no one listens to them. The majority of CPM doesnt even play Dust. So why should CCP take on board their views. CCP failed in their efforts with CPM, good ideal didnt work, and the now extreamly limited payroll Dust has is broken into split shifts of EvE and Dust. The majority of Dust work that is actually under way has, and is BREAKFIX. If it is broken, fix it. Like the squad problem the other day, that was possibly two if not one tech working on it. Not a team. SLACK. NO MORE. Turn your guns in the right direction, i'm a much louder poster then you are, and i am telling you you're screaming at a wall. You're friendly firing for no reason on CPM when they actively suggest and do everything you want them too. But they can't even reply with how CCP responded.
It's not being laxed, it's me accepting the situation for what it is. I've already tried screaming at CCP on these forums on my main, SoTa, and it got me nothing but banned and frustrates the people who are trying to get the positive change you want but get hit in the back of the head by confused people who want more change then logic.
I'm glad you made this thread, honestly, we need more of 'em. CCP gets relaxed when the community does, and the ONLY TIMES CCP HAS EVER LISTENED TO US IS WHEN WE CAPS LOCK AND SPAM THREADS.
MELEE GLITCH? RAGE.
BROKEN MECHANICS AND WEAPONS? RAGE
HAVE ANY OF YOU SEEN THE COMMUNITY INPUT GET IMPLIMENTED WITHOUT RAGE? PLZ, LINK ME ONE TIME THEY HAVE, BECAUSE i CAN lINK SEVERAL EVENTS THAT WE DONT GET ******* HEARD TILL WE GET ******* MAD.
So I do support you OP, fully. But CPM aren't at fault. |
Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
713
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Posted - 2015.06.19 01:46:00 -
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CCP is keeping this game alive long enough so Hilmar has enough pocket change. That's about it Im sure
Click me
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
5
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Posted - 2015.06.19 03:46:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:fragmentedhackslash wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:ROMULUS H3X wrote:Truth is being spoken no matter the construct or delivery.
It's a matter of efficaciousness in the delivery of the message. Ok. Anyone know what this means? Simple English please. I come from a convict country that was stolen land by Englands democracy. Efficaciou... what the entire flux? Suppose, that and completly disregarding any of the statements I made in regard of the OP and turning it straight around into an 'we might do our jobs but the chance is nil' remind sme of the binary Legion crap. Speaking of? How's that working out? oh it's binary. *SMACKS MY HEAD. again, you didnt say I was wrong, all you did was misdirection Didn't work, Won't work. New CPM motto right there. He's telling you that if you don't say things the way CPM wants to hear it they will ignore you outright, as they feel this is justified since CCP outright ignores them. Or so I'd assume. You should be easier on CPM, they do voice up a lot against CCP, but what can you do when CCP constantly replies with, 'Can't"
No, but close?
That particular part meant that CCP is more likely to listen to your cries if they are well thought out posts that eschew rage.
It's not about saying things the way I want them to be said...lol otherwise I'd just have passed over this thread and ignored it.
I don't mind looking through the emotion for the point, but you're going to turn a lot more heads if they take you seriously and rage filled "CCP **** YOU, CPM **** YOU" posts aren't really the best way the entice people to do what you want.
I'm here trying to help him and he's telling me I have an ulterior agenda of misdirection.
Founder & CEO of Fatal Absolution
Skype: Zatara.Rought Email: Zatara.Forever@gmail
official pawn of ArkenaKirkMerc
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fragmentedhackslash
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.19 05:35:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:fragmentedhackslash wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:ROMULUS H3X wrote:Truth is being spoken no matter the construct or delivery.
It's a matter of efficaciousness in the delivery of the message. Ok. Anyone know what this means? Simple English please. I come from a convict country that was stolen land by Englands democracy. Efficaciou... what the entire flux? Suppose, that and completly disregarding any of the statements I made in regard of the OP and turning it straight around into an 'we might do our jobs but the chance is nil' remind sme of the binary Legion crap. Speaking of? How's that working out? oh it's binary. *SMACKS MY HEAD. again, you didnt say I was wrong, all you did was misdirection Didn't work, Won't work. New CPM motto right there. He's telling you that if you don't say things the way CPM wants to hear it they will ignore you outright, as they feel this is justified since CCP outright ignores them. Or so I'd assume. You should be easier on CPM, they do voice up a lot against CCP, but what can you do when CCP constantly replies with, 'Can't" No, but close? That particular part meant that CCP is more likely to listen to your cries if they are well thought out posts that eschew rage. It's not about saying things the way I want them to be said...lol otherwise I'd just have passed over this thread and ignored it. I don't mind looking through the emotion for the point, but you're going to turn a lot more heads if they take you seriously and rage filled "CCP **** YOU, CPM **** YOU" posts aren't really the best way the entice people to do what you want. I'm here trying to help him and he's telling me I have an ulterior agenda of misdirection.
Mate, let me get one thing clear.
Never, in your career, ever mis quote me.
If you didnt mind looking threw the emotion of what you presumed I was conveying, teo things would of happend, maybe three.
1. You would of done your job. Not mis qouted me as saying FK CCP FK CPM FK DEVS, and actually quoted me as saying DO YOUR FKN JOBS. See you missed the key part of that. DO YOUR JOB. The fact I have to explain that to you, is bizarre and strange.
2. Instead of biasing your own personal experience, investigated what I have said in depth to each point and if not timely, appropriated a thorough response.
3. AND A BIG MAYBE.
DONE YOUR JOB.
Instead you dodged everything I said and glazed it over as I can't comment so I'll smokescreen.
There is three parts to this OP, CCP, CPM AND DEV. Each with an experienced players concern of the joke that this game is to a particular player base.
Each and every critical team, CCP, CPM AND DEV, Have failed to do their job.
Simple.
Now, if you actually have any indepth response or input on the specific points brought up, I look foward to your favorable reply, if not, don't waste my fkn time.
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Racro 01 Arifistan
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.06.19 06:42:00 -
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Indianna Pwns wrote:To all those lecturing the OP on how to better conduct himself, just take a step back and remember he's an aussie. They literally tell it how it is and couldn't care less if your offended. Swearing is as natural as breathing to them, just count yourselves lucky he didn't drop the C bomb Doesn't make his opinion any less valid.
ironically this sum's up what us Australians do...quite sad but true.
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.06.19 07:36:00 -
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fragmentedhackslash wrote:
DO YOUR FKN JOBS.
Simple.
This is all you've really said so far. I've condensed it a bit.
Let's start at the beginning shall we? CCP Shanghai was given programming rights to create Dust 514 because China has laws requiring schematics, and core data mechanics to be shared with the country in order to sell within its borders. (Which is why China is the leading producer of counterfeit goods. It's actually promoted by law to an extent.)
Having never really had a console in their country prior to this because of that law, CCP Shanghai had very, very, very little knowledge of anything console related. They started out with a much more robust game engine, and tried to make a lot of things happen. However, they found out that it only worked on their test computers, while client consoles could not handle it, and many broke down. After that they changed the engine over to Unreal, and basically had to start all over again implementing and processing details.
Much of this experimental venture caused a lot of problems, and over the years they began to realize how much work it would be just to maintain a live shooter, because no one in CCP had actually run a live server before. You may say "EvE", but that is a falsehood made to look like it's "live". The reality is that the game is slowed down whenever players interact with an area, and they called it "Time Dilation" as a result. So in Dust... all these bullet, item, and player calculations were causing problems that they had to actually start sorting out, because no one want to play a shooter, where everything slows down matrix style just so that the server can run a bunch of unneeded calculations.
As those systems were going in play, the money for supporting the servers was hit because they were now forced to spend it on training and fixing errors. Eventually the Oceanic servers population seemed to be plummeting, and participation was being reported at an all time low. They began to see monetary strain from keeping so many servers open at once, that they started looking at what they could cut back. The Oceanic server took a hit.
It's only been just a few months back, that asset optimization was something that CCP began to take seriously, and learn about. Hence now we are in a period where all our digital assets such as suits and vehicles, are being reduced to a basic set of models with skins. Once this data compression finally gets underway, they may start seeing improvements with the connections, and a reduction to the cost of operation.
-- As for the other things such as tanks? The names and frames were changed out because isolationist (only played one side and did not care about the other) AV or Tank users were complaining a lot, and CCP were reacting to their unstable complaints. It wasn't until they started talking to people who play BOTH Tank and AV that they began to get real balance, and as a result, there was a large discussion in these forums that happened to rework the layout of Tank and AV systems.
As for constantly telling someone to "Do their job." You could probably Dowload the Unreal engine for yourself and see what it takes to make and align assets. Seriously, it's free to use. Go apeshit on it.
I prefer using Blender + GIMP + Unity, but hey, first hand experience is always useful.
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU
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Michael-J-Fox Richards
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
400
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Posted - 2015.06.19 07:39:00 -
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On redtube lately i've gotten into these videos from girlsoutwest.com its austrailian girls
alts are for sissies. too legit, too legit to quit.
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2015.06.19 11:28:00 -
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There's an awful lot of tender feelings being displayed in this thread, tender feeling of CCP, tender feelings of CPM, along with the message that tender feelings trump the data/facts in the OP's message.
There were a lot of quality points in the OP's message, and questions that the entire community has wanted answers to for a long time, and the OP's frustration is more than a little understandable. Furthermore there were no personal attacks in the OP.
Everybody has their own take on this based on culture and life experience, but from my own personal point of view i don't expect tender feelings to do much for the game. Tbh i expect them to do less than nothing.
PSN: RationalSpark
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XxGhazbaranxX
Eternal Beings
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Posted - 2015.06.19 11:41:00 -
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There there my child. It will all be over soon.
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
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Posted - 2015.06.19 14:52:00 -
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I approve this message
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demonkiller 12
TERRA R1SING New Eden's Heros
756
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Posted - 2015.06.19 15:38:00 -
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fragmentedhackslash wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Hey man.
I don't know where you got that quote from the CPM but it seems false and I'd love to see proof because that's not how the CPM should be speaking to the community.
I can't even begin to understand how frustrating it might have been to have the Oceanic server shut down.
My only comparison would be when red wedding happened and I was at fanfest and I came back and my corp and many others I had friends in all packed up and left the game en masse over the next 2 weeks.
I lost almost all my closest advisors and directors in a sweep of change i was unprepared for.
It hurt a lot to log on for the next few weeks, and some of those people I had no other way to contact because stupid PSN limiting the friends list :(
I can't pretend to tell you that we can bring back the Oceanic server.
But I can tell you that if there's a lot of support for it, our job is to push that common agenda to CCP, even if we know the chances are slim to nil.
So if there are many others out there that would like the Oceanic server back please try to rally support around threads like this and make noise.
The squeaky wheel get the grease and I wouldn't be here if you hadn't made this thread.
Sure, it may have been more efficacious in rallying support for your cause if it wasn't poorly written emotion, but that's why I advise you to go find whoever you can, and get people to support the change.
Have a good one man. I will remind you of something? ALL Australian based players, from the day OCEANIC was dropped as a supported region have suffered rolling disconnects in their Merc querters standing there doing nothing, in the middle of matches that they just dumped a million into the fight we get rolling disconnects, we can't even connect to voice communications without rolling disconnects, let alone engage in PC Battles. I run RAZORWORK, a now 12 year old EvE side channel that I still can't administer DUST side for lack of UI tools, no matter, I still ran for 2 years 'PayDirt' the only DUST RADIO channel thay offered fittings advice, a weekly talkback programme, tactics and deployment techniques, squad mechanic overvies for infantry and vehical Squad leads, basic tutorials etc. This was my community contribution. On top of Tactical Command of 900 affiliated players. RAZORWORK rarely, rarely came out of Delayed (aka local, where everyone is invisable until they type) because it was the go to place for vets and new players alike to X up and kill stuff. Now I can't even transmit voice communications to my own corp members in squad let alone anything else. So tell me, how should I engage with the community when I like the rest of my regions plaayer base, litterally can't talk to each other? That was sarcastic by the way. Asking a CPM how to engage with other players starts by actually playing this game. At least you didnt tell me I was wrong. Emotional, fk yes, I've had enough of this bullshite. Wrong? No. I probably have the most time in this game as any australian player, not even joking before studying i was jobless and played close to 16 hours a day, i have never once had these "rolling disconnects" nor have I ever had an issue with coms (only when everyone else is as well), PC lags and sucks for everyone so youre not special in that department, i also find it hard to believe there was 900 australian players in a single alliance/coalition, maybe 100 each with 8 alts. It sounds like a few things, youve probably spilt a few too many VBs on your PS3/Mic and your net probably just sucks... is australian internet after-all, and once again, never had a problem talking to people on any other server, from any other region, all over the world
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castba
Rogue Instincts Evil Syndicate Alliance.
949
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Posted - 2015.06.19 15:46:00 -
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Protocake JR wrote:Crikey...
I never knew it was that bad. Supported. Maybe for some, but not for all if us.
"When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti
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Indianna Pwns
TERRA R1SING New Eden's Heros
153
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Posted - 2015.06.19 16:36:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:Indianna Pwns wrote:To all those lecturing the OP on how to better conduct himself, just take a step back and remember he's an aussie. They literally tell it how it is and couldn't care less if your offended. Swearing is as natural as breathing to them, just count yourselves lucky he didn't drop the C bomb Doesn't make his opinion any less valid. ironically this sum's up what us Australians do...quite sad but true.
I know, recently moved back to the UK after living there for two years. I find it really refreshing.
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
206
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Posted - 2015.06.19 16:42:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:fragmentedhackslash wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:ROMULUS H3X wrote:Truth is being spoken no matter the construct or delivery.
It's a matter of efficaciousness in the delivery of the message. Ok. Anyone know what this means? Simple English please. I come from a convict country that was stolen land by Englands democracy. Efficaciou... what the entire flux? Suppose, that and completly disregarding any of the statements I made in regard of the OP and turning it straight around into an 'we might do our jobs but the chance is nil' remind sme of the binary Legion crap. Speaking of? How's that working out? oh it's binary. *SMACKS MY HEAD. again, you didnt say I was wrong, all you did was misdirection Didn't work, Won't work. New CPM motto right there. He's telling you that if you don't say things the way CPM wants to hear it they will ignore you outright, as they feel this is justified since CCP outright ignores them. Or so I'd assume. You should be easier on CPM, they do voice up a lot against CCP, but what can you do when CCP constantly replies with, 'Can't" No, but close? That particular part meant that CCP is more likely to listen to your cries if they are well thought out posts that eschew rage. It's not about saying things the way I want them to be said...lol otherwise I'd just have passed over this thread and ignored it. I don't mind looking through the emotion for the point, but you're going to turn a lot more heads if they take you seriously and rage filled "CCP **** YOU, CPM **** YOU" posts aren't really the best way the entice people to do what you want. I'm here trying to help him and he's telling me I have an ulterior agenda of misdirection. This is all really pointless to begin with, it doesn't matter if CCP comes to read it because that's what CPM is for. Your job is to take our input and present them constructively to CCP.
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Darken-Sol
Intruder Excluder
1
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Posted - 2015.06.19 18:28:00 -
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ROMULUS H3X wrote:Truth is being spoken no matter the construct or delivery.
silence is also truth
Crush them
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
10
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Posted - 2015.06.19 18:47:00 -
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Even if you had a point to be made about the Oceanic server being shut down, you choose to vent your frustration with a ranty badpost rather than appeal to reason. If you had even spent a moment reading Rattati's posts or Cross Atu's 'Feedback in a Crowd Source Environment' you would know that rants and emotional diarrhea won't get you anywhere. In fact, since OP is a rant you might get banned or at the very least the OP will get locked.
First, delete this thread. Quickly, before it gets you in trouble.
Second, take the same general concept of the thread but remove the swearing, exaggeration, and useless emotional nonsense.
Now you are ready to post.
@Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
5
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Posted - 2015.06.19 20:04:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote: This is all really pointless to begin with, it doesn't matter if CCP comes to read it because that's what CPM is for. Your job is to take our input and present them constructively to CCP.
Have fun :)
We present community sentiment on an issue.
So if I say hey there's a lot of community support for "X" and that community support is one dude's sperging making unsubstantiated attacks on the CPM among other accusations...then they aren't likely to listen.
They aren't likely to listen now because there's been aussie players that came in and contested the rolling disconnects..meaning it's not a pervasive issue that affects all players in that area until more opinions are gathered.
As I said from the beginning...if this is an issue then you need to rally a bunch of aussie players who experience this and I suggest getting a lot of people together to demonstrate large group support for this grievance/issue/etc.
But I've made my point and I'll let the thread take it's course.
Cheers
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Skype: Zatara.Rought Email: Zatara.Forever@gmail
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Grease Spillett
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
861
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Posted - 2015.06.19 21:13:00 -
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This post really goes to show how someone feels out of ignorance from how corporate works. I can definitely say that most people in the player community know how to play the game but have no idea the full extent of what it has taken to make it. I'm not gonna tell anyone how to do their jobs or to do them. If this game was my baby if go insane trying to make it perfect. That's probably where everyone is at top to bottom.
Next time you see me, bring more friends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBM5hM5LdDw
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
208
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Posted - 2015.06.19 21:56:00 -
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Fanfest 2014 - I think it's pretty clear how often we're honestly heard, so what does it really matter if his input is frustrated or not, CCP will do what it wants when it wants because it wanted.
Let the man vent, lol. I still stand by it's more effective then not. |
Cody Sietz
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
4
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Posted - 2015.06.19 22:56:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:ROMULUS H3X wrote:Truth is being spoken no matter the construct or delivery.
It's a matter of efficaciousness in the delivery of the message. There is truth to that.
You can see some people here who are out right in agreement with the OP but just have a issue with how he said it(though, tbh, it's not that bad and I can easily understand why he is frustrated)
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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