DUST Search - The bolt pistol without self proclaimed bias.

Sicerly Yaw wrote:

JARREL THOMAS wrote:

The bolt pistol is OP Aeon was not biased.

I suggest waiting for strafing update then reduce headshot AA or bring it back to the way it was before the buff.

Please come here and suggest ideas for fixing this horrifically broken weapon.

the ion pistol does way more damage
the Scrambler pistol has an insane head shot multiplier
the flaylock does area damage that can kill mutiple targets if they are close together
the NK's do enough charged up dmg that can take out most heavies

why must the BP be the only one to be singled out?
the BP is hardly OP and saying that the AA is broken does not make the BP OP

you can easily avoid being hit by it and you have almost a full second to kill your target if they shot you once and you survived

people are always looking for excuses to nerf caldari weaponry, if you are close enough to get hit by the bolt pistol without them having to aim then you deserved that death, and if you got killed by it at range then you were probably standing around which means you probably deserved that death also

those head shots that aren't accounted for as far as it being your fault can be ruled as a skilled player or pure luck

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JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 711	Posted - 2015.06.18 16:27:00 - [1] - Quote The bolt pistol is OP Aeon was not biased. I suggest waiting for strafing update then reduce headshot AA or bring it back to the way it was before the buff. Please come here and suggest ideas for fixing this horrifically broken weapon. Caldari Loyalist. ( -í° -£-û -í°) They see me rollin they Hating (..) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (..)
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 6	Posted - 2015.06.18 16:40:00 - [2] - Quote It's a pocket sniper that shouldn't have AA in the first place. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Songs of Seraphim Negative-Feedback. 1	Posted - 2015.06.18 16:43:00 - [3] - Quote Odd thing about it: It has horrible or no AA when you're in aim-down sights. Still land those head shots though. Achura Bloodline Caldari Loyalist Join Caldari FW
Dreis ShadowWeaver 0uter.Heaven 4	Posted - 2015.06.18 16:46:00 - [4] - Quote Songs of Seraphim wrote: Odd thing about it: It has horrible or no AA when you're in aim-down sights. Still land those head shots though. I get more headshots with the thing whilst hipfiring rather than being ADS. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
Songs of Seraphim Negative-Feedback. 1	Posted - 2015.06.18 16:51:00 - [5] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: Songs of Seraphim wrote: Odd thing about it: It has horrible or no AA when you're in aim-down sights. Still land those head shots though. I get more headshots with the thing whilst hipfiring rather than being ADS. #360noscopeheadshot420blazeitfeggit Achura Bloodline Caldari Loyalist Join Caldari FW
2Berries Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 892	Posted - 2015.06.18 16:54:00 - [6] - Quote Nobody believed me when i said the caldari frontline suit was op. Assault RR, bolt pistol, uplinks, quick charging shields-all for the price of FREE! Evening Boys, Hows the water?
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.18 16:58:00 - [7] - Quote I think only the hipfire should be nerfed.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.06.18 17:14:00 - [8] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: I think only the hipfire should be nerfed. AA is a lot more effective at hipfire but magnetism is still completely off the charts. There's a video on YouTube where a guy is actually hitting the ground next to a enemy and its still hitting the enemy. Not even close to his body. He switches to other weapons and it doesn't happen. This is a problem. A high damage weapon with more power than a sniper rifle should not have that much magnetism. Imagine if the Plasma Cannon has that level of magnetism? Imagine the Scrambler, especially the scrambler. Dear god. TUNNEL SNAKES RULE!
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.06.18 17:20:00 - [9] - Quote Recommendation: Take a look Aim Assist magnetism/adhesion settings as it relates to the Bolt Pistol. They might be set incorrectly. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
maybe deadcatz Horizons' Edge No Context 182	Posted - 2015.06.18 17:31:00 - [10] - Quote bolt pistols are damn nuts. you could have 300 plus shield and its like wapow! and then you get popped. its a shame. caldari weapons perform far better than the actual suits, at least shield wise, ive seen my assault rail rifle punching through shields and sawing through Armour. no wonder i wonder i see rail riffles wielded by gal assaults.(ive melted them with the standard assault rail rifle only 2 points in operations.) bolt pistols are damn crutchy as ****. stupid seeking bolts. you can kill a tank with a bolt pistol almost. Ewar? What's that? Some kind of new crutch? Learn how to use your eyes and ears you maggots. Battelskirts for the win!!

Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 663	Posted - 2015.06.18 17:37:00 - [11] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: Songs of Seraphim wrote: Odd thing about it: It has horrible or no AA when you're in aim-down sights. Still land those head shots though. I get more headshots with the thing whilst hipfiring rather than being ADS. AA is less effective while ads. CEO of 48th Special Operations Force Twitter-@48SOF
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 294	Posted - 2015.06.18 17:38:00 - [12] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: The bolt pistol is OP Aeon was not biased. I suggest waiting for strafing update then reduce headshot AA or bring it back to the way it was before the buff. Please come here and suggest ideas for fixing this horrifically broken weapon. the ion pistol does way more damage the Scrambler pistol has an insane head shot multiplier the flaylock does area damage that can kill mutiple targets if they are close together the NK's do enough charged up dmg that can take out most heavies why must the BP be the only one to be singled out? the BP is hardly OP and saying that the AA is broken does not make the BP OP you can easily avoid being hit by it and you have almost a full second to kill your target if they shot you once and you survived people are always looking for excuses to nerf caldari weaponry, if you are close enough to get hit by the bolt pistol without them having to aim then you deserved that death, and if you got killed by it at range then you were probably standing around which means you probably deserved that death also those head shots that aren't accounted for as far as it being your fault can be ruled as a skilled player or pure luck
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 714	Posted - 2015.06.18 17:51:00 - [13] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: The bolt pistol is OP Aeon was not biased. I suggest waiting for strafing update then reduce headshot AA or bring it back to the way it was before the buff. Please come here and suggest ideas for fixing this horrifically broken weapon. the ion pistol does way more damage the Scrambler pistol has an insane head shot multiplier the flaylock does area damage that can kill mutiple targets if they are close together the NK's do enough charged up dmg that can take out most heavies why must the BP be the only one to be singled out? the BP is hardly OP and saying that the AA is broken does not make the BP OP you can easily avoid being hit by it and you have almost a full second to kill your target if they shot you once and you survived people are always looking for excuses to nerf caldari weaponry, if you are close enough to get hit by the bolt pistol without them having to aim then you deserved that death, and if you got killed by it at range then you were probably standing around which means you probably deserved that death also those head shots that aren't accounted for as far as it being your fault can be ruled as a skilled player or pure luck I only said AA no Nerf to the weapon itself making this weapon require skill and not just point click +50 And besides all the other pistols, nks are completely different, have flaws the BP has charge time that's a little flaw for range AA and damage. Caldari Loyalist. ( -í° -£-û -í°) They see me rollin they Hating (..) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (..)
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 707	Posted - 2015.06.18 17:53:00 - [14] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: The bolt pistol is OP Aeon was not biased. I suggest waiting for strafing update then reduce headshot AA or bring it back to the way it was before the buff. Please come here and suggest ideas for fixing this horrifically broken weapon. the ion pistol does way more damage the Scrambler pistol has an insane head shot multiplier the flaylock does area damage that can kill mutiple targets if they are close together the NK's do enough charged up dmg that can take out most heavies why must the BP be the only one to be singled out? the BP is hardly OP and saying that the AA is broken does not make the BP OP you can easily avoid being hit by it and you have almost a full second to kill your target if they shot you once and you survived people are always looking for excuses to nerf caldari weaponry, if you are close enough to get hit by the bolt pistol without them having to aim then you deserved that death, and if you got killed by it at range then you were probably standing around which means you probably deserved that death also those head shots that aren't accounted for as far as it being your fault can be ruled as a skilled player or pure luck 1.Ion pistol has abysmal range 2.you should have seen the ScP when it was first introduced as suppose to current (use the burst scp and comeback) 3.that is IF they are close together, you can't kill anyone in one shot, it's like a mini MD 4.Nova knives are only useful on faster suits Click me
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.18 17:54:00 - [15] - Quote Heard it speculated that the reason it might have oddities in its magnetism is that it checks where you're aiming when you start to spool a shot instead of when the shot is fired. Light rails pull some of this weird behaviour as well. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.18 17:55:00 - [16] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Varoth Drac wrote: I think only the hipfire should be nerfed. AA is a lot more effective at hipfire but magnetism is still completely off the charts. There's a video on YouTube where a guy is actually hitting the ground next to a enemy and its still hitting the enemy. Not even close to his body. He switches to other weapons and it doesn't happen. This is a problem. A high damage weapon with more power than a sniper rifle should not have that much magnetism. Imagine if the Plasma Cannon has that level of magnetism? Imagine the Scrambler, especially the scrambler. Dear god. If I get an ads headshot with the bolt pistol it always seems like the sight is correctly over the head. So ads magnetism doesn't seem like a problem to me. Hipfire magnetism could well be a different story however.
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 295	Posted - 2015.06.18 18:12:00 - [17] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Varoth Drac wrote: I think only the hipfire should be nerfed. AA is a lot more effective at hipfire but magnetism is still completely off the charts. There's a video on YouTube where a guy is actually hitting the ground next to a enemy and its still hitting the enemy. Not even close to his body. He switches to other weapons and it doesn't happen. This is a problem. A high damage weapon with more power than a sniper rifle should not have that much magnetism. Imagine if the Plasma Cannon has that level of magnetism? Imagine the Scrambler, especially the scrambler. Dear god. the plasma cannon has more splash damage then the BP has direct damage the scrambler rifle is broken and does more damage then the BP when charged the BP has to spool up every time before it fires and only has 4 shots per clip
maybe deadcatz Horizons' Edge No Context 183	Posted - 2015.06.18 18:15:00 - [18] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Varoth Drac wrote: I think only the hipfire should be nerfed. AA is a lot more effective at hipfire but magnetism is still completely off the charts. There's a video on YouTube where a guy is actually hitting the ground next to a enemy and its still hitting the enemy. Not even close to his body. He switches to other weapons and it doesn't happen. This is a problem. A high damage weapon with more power than a sniper rifle should not have that much magnetism. Imagine if the Plasma Cannon has that level of magnetism? Imagine the Scrambler, especially the scrambler. Dear god. If I get an ads headshot with the bolt pistol it always seems like the sight is correctly over the head. So ads magnetism doesn't seem like a problem to me. Hipfire magnetism could well be a different story however. scrambler has some weird crap with how it works. Ewar? What's that? Some kind of new crutch? Learn how to use your eyes and ears you maggots. Batteskirts for the win!!
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 709	Posted - 2015.06.18 18:23:00 - [19] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Varoth Drac wrote: I think only the hipfire should be nerfed. AA is a lot more effective at hipfire but magnetism is still completely off the charts. There's a video on YouTube where a guy is actually hitting the ground next to a enemy and its still hitting the enemy. Not even close to his body. He switches to other weapons and it doesn't happen. This is a problem. A high damage weapon with more power than a sniper rifle should not have that much magnetism. Imagine if the Plasma Cannon has that level of magnetism? Imagine the Scrambler, especially the scrambler. Dear god. the plasma cannon has more splash damage then the BP has direct damage the scrambler rifle is broken and does more damage then the BP when charged the BP has to spool up every time before it fires and only has 4 shots per clip 1.you're comparing a cannon to a pistol 2.Ratman confirmed he is going to tweak the ScR that leave bolt pistol as the only broken one in the future. 3.Balance Click me
Powerh8er Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 827	Posted - 2015.06.18 18:26:00 - [20] - Quote Its just an annoying gun to get killed by, a troll weapon. other sidearms are more effective, atleast in my hands. Have you got anymore exploding carrots?

Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 710	Posted - 2015.06.18 18:27:00 - [21] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: Its just an annoying gun to get killed by, a troll weapon. other sidearms are more effective, atleast in my hands. Teach me the magsec pls Click me
Dreis ShadowWeaver 0uter.Heaven 4	Posted - 2015.06.18 18:29:00 - [22] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Recommendation: Take a look Aim Assist magnetism/adhesion settings as it relates to the Bolt Pistol. They might be set incorrectly. I may be incorrect, but I think I remember reading a forum post once that explained that the Bolt Pistol had high magnetism to compensate for it's poor hit detection. If that's the case, maybe the magnetism could be reduced providing the hit detection gets looked at. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
Llast 326 An Arkhos 7	Posted - 2015.06.18 19:08:00 - [23] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: Heard it speculated that the reason it might have oddities in its magnetism is that it checks where you're aiming when you start to spool a shot instead of when the shot is fired. Light rails pull some of this weird behaviour as well. Well that is interesting, and very testableGÇª Not at home at the moment. Anybody else willing to give it a go? MOAR Ladders SpadeGÇª Remember your Warbarge
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.06.18 19:13:00 - [24] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: Heard it speculated that the reason it might have oddities in its magnetism is that it checks where you're aiming when you start to spool a shot instead of when the shot is fired. Light rails pull some of this weird behaviour as well. Well that is interesting, and very testableGÇª Not at home at the moment. Anybody else willing to give it a go? That might also explain why the RR does not hit sometimes when you are clearly on the target and still expending ammo. TUNNEL SNAKES RULE!
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 9	Posted - 2015.06.18 19:18:00 - [25] - Quote Just set the hipfire AA values slightly higher than the ADS. Done. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 715	Posted - 2015.06.18 19:26:00 - [26] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: Heard it speculated that the reason it might have oddities in its magnetism is that it checks where you're aiming when you start to spool a shot instead of when the shot is fired. Light rails pull some of this weird behaviour as well. Well that is interesting, and very testableGÇª Not at home at the moment. Anybody else willing to give it a go? That might also explain why the RR does not hit sometimes when you are clearly on the target and still expending ammo. Possibly Caldari Loyalist. ( -í° -£-û -í°) They see me rollin they Hating (..) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (..)
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.18 19:30:00 - [27] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: Heard it speculated that the reason it might have oddities in its magnetism is that it checks where you're aiming when you start to spool a shot instead of when the shot is fired. Light rails pull some of this weird behaviour as well. Well that is interesting, and very testableGÇª Not at home at the moment. Anybody else willing to give it a go? That might also explain why the RR does not hit sometimes when you are clearly on the target and still expending ammo. Are you talking about the 'ghost firing'? Where it looks like you're firing but you're not and you aren't expending ammo, cause I notice that most often when I stop firing and attempt to re-fire again, which leads me to believe it's a server/client disagreement. I could be talking about something different though as I'm kind of tired. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 9	Posted - 2015.06.18 19:32:00 - [28] - Quote Doesn't happen woth the forge, but that's an actual projectile, not hitscan. Heavy rail turrets as well. I remember when the heavy rail projectile moved slow enough that it could be clearly tracked. Failure to fire outright happens a lot, as do delayed shots. Same with heavy rails. If you catch it on a bad lag spot the flaylock will act like it's possessed in bad lag. Hitscan weapons don't ghost fire but they might seek the initial charge points. I will test after work tonight if someone reminds me. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
2Berries Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 892	Posted - 2015.06.18 19:34:00 - [29] - Quote Leave it the f*uck alone & call it the caldari answer to the ScR. Evening Boys, Hows the water?
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 715	Posted - 2015.06.18 20:10:00 - [30] - Quote 2Berries wrote: Leave it the f*uck alone & call it the caldari answer to the ScR. No, balance is needed the scr will be fixed so will this Caldari Loyalist. ( -í° -£-û -í°) They see me rollin they Hating (..) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (..)



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