DUST Search - Why don't EVE pilots have war barges?

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

Squagga wrote:

I know you guys hate my good ideas. Cause you want shotguns to do more damage. But seriously, why don't EVE pilots have war barges, and bring us to the districts we fight for?

Warbarges are likely among the hundreds of various classes of vessels in the New Eden galaxy that are not rigged for capsuleer use nor is there any value in doing so.

Similar to plugging in a capsuleer into a station or star gate; there is no purpose for it it doesnt magically make either of those facilities run 10x better than a regularly crewed star gate or station and such ships are likely already normally crewed the way they are.

Ultimately warbarges are also one of those civilian ships that eve capsuleers also auto-filter out of their sensors readouts.

Likely these barges are several generations in technology back and would not be worth the ammo in shooting down; they're just getting extended life in our hands.

There is also a chance that the sudden procurement of many of these barges where at the behest of concord. One of Concords directives is the direct management and control of immortals to prevent them from being too destructive on the not so immortal people.

Warbarges likely hosts the black boxes all immortal soldiers have to which if you destroy said barge you kill said soldier permanently in theory as long as you kill all remaining instances of that soldier before he establishes a new black box.

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Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H No Context 788	Posted - 2015.06.02 05:19:00 - [31] - Quote We stoled em and CCP can't get it up. The CPM candidate we need, not the one we want. The candidate for the rest of us.
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.06.02 05:30:00 - [32] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: I would smart bomb camp the **** out of everyone's war barges. If warbarges have such low HP that smartbombs would be effective I'd fly to Iceland and fist everyone at CCP. The cup is not half empty as pacifists sayyyyyyyyy AIV member.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 23	Posted - 2015.06.02 10:16:00 - [33] - Quote Because they touch themselves at night? "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.02 10:22:00 - [34] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Because they touch themselves at night? hah. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens 1	Posted - 2015.06.02 10:27:00 - [35] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Because they touch themselves at night? Go do Dev stuff =ƒÿí=ƒÿñ=ƒÿú The Forums are a special place.
benandjerrys Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 151	Posted - 2015.06.02 11:04:00 - [36] - Quote Squagga wrote: benandjerrys wrote: Its going to happen. Accept this time we need YOUR support dust bunnies... I wanna believe you, but you're also creeping me out at the same time Lol. Unintended man. ...and to the other post about jump drives.... That thing would NEED it to catch up to you guys. Tread Locking Proficiency V
Scotty AI MatchMaker The Templis Dragonaurs Evil Syndicate Alliance. 80	Posted - 2015.06.02 12:19:00 - [37] - Quote Squagga wrote: I know you guys hate my good ideas. Cause you want shotguns to do more damage. But seriously, why don't EVE pilots have war barges, and bring us to the districts we fight for? Its a great idea but... what would a pilot have to do to earn the right to fly a warbarge? LP? be a part of an alliance? All can be manipulated and infiltrated. The solution is simpler. NPC controlled warbarge's that set off at a specific time. Fleets can co-ordinate with them or against, blockade runners carving a path through defence lines as we hope to make it to the planet in view, we have seen these CCP trailers and its very teasing of them. Having a warbarge enter a system could also effect the system's standings etc. having a pilot fly for us is putting our lives and the future of a district in there hands, having a NPC warbarge that brings FW EvE and Dust players closer would still need some form of reason for them to bother, either way its a great idea to be in a warbarge while the warbarge is flying through EvE space under attack by valkyres and bombers as its linebreakers punch a whole through a planets defence system to hopefully begin a landing phase. Watching capital ships fall from the heaven's on fire after being gutted by orbital defence platforms and cause some form of levelution as it crashes with the impact of an atomic funeral bomb is on my christmas list 'There is an art to dying, but its a dying art.'
Jack Boost Zarena Family 824	Posted - 2015.06.02 12:31:00 - [38] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Because they touch themselves at night? Seams Rattati was hacked... Not much time left...
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 6	Posted - 2015.06.02 12:37:00 - [39] - Quote Jack Boost wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Because they touch themselves at night? Seams Rattati was hacked... No, that definitely Rattati. He's a funny guy. Dust 514 Market Trello. The essential resource for trading in Dust.
Scotty AI MatchMaker The Templis Dragonaurs Evil Syndicate Alliance. 81	Posted - 2015.06.02 12:55:00 - [40] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Because they touch themselves at night? or during downtime 'There is an art to dying, but its a dying art.'

CPM Awox Mexican Justice League 274	Posted - 2015.06.02 13:25:00 - [41] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Because they touch themselves at night? Woah and now I can see no reason why I can't be a CPM. Killed again has Super-Ebola.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 23	Posted - 2015.06.02 15:02:00 - [42] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Because they touch themselves at night? Go do Dev stuff =ƒÿí=ƒÿñ=ƒÿú https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkC--5AVk1Y "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 6	Posted - 2015.06.02 15:06:00 - [43] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Because they touch themselves at night? Go do Dev stuff =ƒÿí=ƒÿñ=ƒÿú https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkC--5AVk1Y That explains a lot... Budum tssst "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.06.02 15:50:00 - [44] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Because they touch themselves at night? This implies that EVE players have someone else touching them. Let's be realistic here... Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Bri Bub Eternal Beings 226	Posted - 2015.06.02 16:08:00 - [45] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: deezy dabest wrote: I would smart bomb camp the **** out of everyone's war barges. If warbarges have such low HP that smartbombs would be effective I'd fly to Iceland and fist everyone at CCP. Rattati Approved!!! Be just and if you can't be just be arbitrary.
Marcus Stormfire G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 108	Posted - 2015.06.02 16:28:00 - [46] - Quote Clone D wrote: I'm still trying to figure out how to ram my warbarge into the enemy MCC. Heh, Forget ramming. The war barge is so large all you have to do is land it on top of a map and it will flatten everything. Battle over, Match is a draw. Only you win. -Marcus -I don't always kill Mercs with a sidearm, But when I do I use militia.
Balistyc Farshot OUTCAST MERCS General Tso's Alliance 193	Posted - 2015.06.02 18:34:00 - [47] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Because they touch themselves at night? wish I could +1 harder! (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! With the team chat gone, we need to really start leveraging the squad finder!
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC 1	Posted - 2015.06.02 18:44:00 - [48] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Because they touch themselves at night? Go do Dev stuff =ƒÿí=ƒÿñ=ƒÿú https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkC--5AVk1Y Utterly Disgusted GimmeDatSuhWeet isk We found a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank, all hail pope redblood the 6th
Scheneighnay McBob Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary 7	Posted - 2015.06.02 19:12:00 - [49] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: deezy dabest wrote: I would smart bomb camp the **** out of everyone's war barges. If warbarges have such low HP that smartbombs would be effective I'd fly to Iceland and fist everyone at CCP. Guesstimating size (based off the fact war barges carry MCCs, and there's the visible MCC door on the side, I would say a war barge is about the size of a Drake, but I could be wrong. Actually, googling a pic for the size of a Drake, a war barge is probably bigger. Rule 34.6.1: every parody will have a crossover
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 19	Posted - 2015.06.02 20:40:00 - [50] - Quote Squagga wrote: I know you guys hate my good ideas. Cause you want shotguns to do more damage. But seriously, why don't EVE pilots have war barges, and bring us to the districts we fight for? Warbarges are likely among the hundreds of various classes of vessels in the New Eden galaxy that are not rigged for capsuleer use nor is there any value in doing so. Similar to plugging in a capsuleer into a station or star gate; there is no purpose for it it doesnt magically make either of those facilities run 10x better than a regularly crewed star gate or station and such ships are likely already normally crewed the way they are. Ultimately warbarges are also one of those civilian ships that eve capsuleers also auto-filter out of their sensors readouts. Likely these barges are several generations in technology back and would not be worth the ammo in shooting down; they're just getting extended life in our hands. There is also a chance that the sudden procurement of many of these barges where at the behest of concord. One of Concords directives is the direct management and control of immortals to prevent them from being too destructive on the not so immortal people. Warbarges likely hosts the black boxes all immortal soldiers have to which if you destroy said barge you kill said soldier permanently in theory as long as you kill all remaining instances of that soldier before he establishes a new black box. CPM 1, Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= ADV HAVs =// Unlocked

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 19	Posted - 2015.06.02 20:43:00 - [51] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: THUNDERGROOVE wrote: deezy dabest wrote: I would smart bomb camp the **** out of everyone's war barges. If warbarges have such low HP that smartbombs would be effective I'd fly to Iceland and fist everyone at CCP. Guesstimating size (based off the fact war barges carry MCCs, and there's the visible MCC door on the side, I would say a war barge is about the size of a Drake, but I could be wrong. Actually, googling a pic for the size of a Drake, a war barge is probably bigger. Warbarges where guesstimated to be the size of a small capital ship. Battlecruisers would be be large enough to launch a wing of RDVs from any of its replaced turret facilities. Likely half size of a dreadnought (whose one bay can launch a very large mcc like vessel carrying thousands of drop troops) Warbarges are likely taking lessons from previous wars transport ships which where generally freighters but making them more lightweight and mobile for immortal soldier use. CPM 1, Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= ADV HAVs =// Unlocked
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 6	Posted - 2015.06.02 20:44:00 - [52] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Squagga wrote: I know you guys hate my good ideas. Cause you want shotguns to do more damage. But seriously, why don't EVE pilots have war barges, and bring us to the districts we fight for? Warbarges are likely among the hundreds of various classes of vessels in the New Eden galaxy that are not rigged for capsuleer use nor is there any value in doing so. Similar to plugging in a capsuleer into a station or star gate; there is no purpose for it it doesnt magically make either of those facilities run 10x better than a regularly crewed star gate or station and such ships are likely already normally crewed the way they are. Ultimately warbarges are also one of those civilian ships that eve capsuleers also auto-filter out of their sensors readouts. Likely these barges are several generations in technology back and would not be worth the ammo in shooting down; they're just getting extended life in our hands. There is also a chance that the sudden procurement of many of these barges where at the behest of concord. One of Concords directives is the direct management and control of immortals to prevent them from being too destructive on the not so immortal people. Warbarges likely hosts the black boxes all immortal soldiers have to which if you destroy said barge you kill said soldier permanently in theory as long as you kill all remaining instances of that soldier before he establishes a new black box. You are the only person I know who would go to this much trouble to craft a lore explanation to detail the lack of a previously promised feature. If nothing else, I admire your dedication. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
deezy dabest 2	Posted - 2015.06.02 20:51:00 - [53] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: THUNDERGROOVE wrote: deezy dabest wrote: I would smart bomb camp the **** out of everyone's war barges. If warbarges have such low HP that smartbombs would be effective I'd fly to Iceland and fist everyone at CCP. Guesstimating size (based off the fact war barges carry MCCs, and there's the visible MCC door on the side, I would say a war barge is about the size of a Drake, but I could be wrong. Actually, googling a pic for the size of a Drake, a war barge is probably bigger. If anything the MCC carries our warbarges. It is after all the ship which carries all of our clones and other supplies into battle. Best I can tell an actual warbarge would not need to be any larger than a destroyer to server its purpose.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 19	Posted - 2015.06.02 21:04:00 - [54] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: THUNDERGROOVE wrote: deezy dabest wrote: I would smart bomb camp the **** out of everyone's war barges. If warbarges have such low HP that smartbombs would be effective I'd fly to Iceland and fist everyone at CCP. Guesstimating size (based off the fact war barges carry MCCs, and there's the visible MCC door on the side, I would say a war barge is about the size of a Drake, but I could be wrong. Actually, googling a pic for the size of a Drake, a war barge is probably bigger. If anything the MCC carries our warbarges. It is after all the ship which carries all of our clones and other supplies into battle. Best I can tell an actual warbarge would not need to be any larger than a destroyer to server its purpose. MCCs are destroyer sized much larger than most eve frigates. The smallest ship that can deploy a frigate is a battleship just to give you guys ideas on sizes. Frigates are generally 747 sized. CPM 1, Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= ADV HAVs =// Unlocked
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 286	Posted - 2015.06.02 22:20:00 - [55] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: THUNDERGROOVE wrote: deezy dabest wrote: I would smart bomb camp the **** out of everyone's war barges. If warbarges have such low HP that smartbombs would be effective I'd fly to Iceland and fist everyone at CCP. Guesstimating size (based off the fact war barges carry MCCs, and there's the visible MCC door on the side, I would say a war barge is about the size of a Drake, but I could be wrong. Actually, googling a pic for the size of a Drake, a war barge is probably bigger. Warbarges where guesstimated to be the size of a small capital ship. Battlecruisers would be be large enough to launch a wing of RDVs from any of its replaced turret facilities. Likely half size of a dreadnought (whose one bay can launch a very large mcc like vessel carrying thousands of drop troops) Warbarges are likely taking lessons from previous wars transport ships which where generally freighters but making them more lightweight and mobile for immortal soldier use. Something like an Orca? xD Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper. Vehicle Re-vamp Proposal
jerrmy12 kahoalii G0DS AM0NG MEN New Eden's Heros 1	Posted - 2015.06.02 23:22:00 - [56] - Quote Squagga wrote: I know you guys hate my good ideas. Cause you want shotguns to do more damage. But seriously, why don't EVE pilots have war barges, and bring us to the districts we fight for? Because they touch themselves with thier decorative tile fetish Closed beta vet. Master troll. No lifer. Master lurker. Be sure to stay off my board normies
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 6	Posted - 2015.06.03 01:23:00 - [57] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: THUNDERGROOVE wrote: deezy dabest wrote: I would smart bomb camp the **** out of everyone's war barges. If warbarges have such low HP that smartbombs would be effective I'd fly to Iceland and fist everyone at CCP. Guesstimating size (based off the fact war barges carry MCCs, and there's the visible MCC door on the side, I would say a war barge is about the size of a Drake, but I could be wrong. Actually, googling a pic for the size of a Drake, a war barge is probably bigger. If anything the MCC carries our warbarges. It is after all the ship which carries all of our clones and other supplies into battle. Best I can tell an actual warbarge would not need to be any larger than a destroyer to server its purpose. MCCs are destroyer sized much larger than most eve frigates. The smallest ship that can deploy a frigate is a battleship just to give you guys ideas on sizes. Frigates are generally 747 sized. If I recall correctly an Orca is 1.5-2km long. Somewhere in that range at least. That's the size of a "Corporation WarBarge", so that should give you a better sense of scale. An Orca can carry quite a few Destroyers. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 6	Posted - 2015.06.03 01:25:00 - [58] - Quote CPM Awox wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Because they touch themselves at night? Woah and now I can see no reason why I can't be a CPM. Wait, I recognize your name! I was watching a video the other day where you AWOXed yourself into a team and then played loud music over comms in a PC so they couldn't coordinate. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
CPM Awox Mexican Justice League 281	Posted - 2015.06.03 01:42:00 - [59] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: CPM Awox wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Because they touch themselves at night? Woah and now I can see no reason why I can't be a CPM. Wait, I recognize your name! I was watching a video the other day where you AWOXed yourself into a team and then played loud music over comms in a PC so they couldn't coordinate. Want my autograph? Killed again has Super-Ebola.
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 6	Posted - 2015.06.03 01:44:00 - [60] - Quote CPM Awox wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: CPM Awox wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Because they touch themselves at night? Woah and now I can see no reason why I can't be a CPM. Wait, I recognize your name! I was watching a video the other day where you AWOXed yourself into a team and then played loud music over comms in a PC so they couldn't coordinate. Want my autograph? Can I trade that autograph for a free TK? I promise I'll use a Scrambler to the back of the head so it won't hurt too much. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector



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