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FUCKKING TANK
G0DS AM0NG MEN New Eden's Heros
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Posted - 2015.05.29 20:18:00 -
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This isn't in any way a hate post against CCP, but I would however like to point out the pure fact that you've buffed scramblers and pretty much everything else that does shield damage. ANY weapon in this game does ridiculous shield damage as it is and I will die from a ******* MILITIA SUIT RUNNING AN ScR. This game does not have the appeal to many users anymore specifically because now all you have to do is slap a scrambler on any suit and its instantly better than almost any other weapon. Please explain why you have not touched combat rifles, buffed scramblers, buffed assault rifles, and nerfed rail rifles? That instantly screws all caldari assaults and makes it so we have to stack armor plates just to kill a advanced amarr assault. There is no logic in this and is why I'm really considering quitting this game (Im sure I'm not the only one either). And for all you Amarr assaults, Ive ran the Amarr assault Ak.0 for a long time so don't tell me that I don't know this or don't know that about them because I do. I can pull out my opus assault and wreck pretty much any caldari or any other race for that matter and I don't have a single point into Amarr assault or ScR. Don't tell me its my internet connection, because I only lag when it comes to the meat grinder. I would also like to suggest that if you don't intend on nerfing the ridiculously over powered laser weapons, then at leased restore the Rail Rifle to where it was before you took a dump on it, give caldari a chance to fight back instead of just having to flop over and die instantly. Ive respeced 7 times and I'm done. Ive spend $500 on this game and I've been play constantly for 3 years now and this is just ridiculous. I also will be providing VISUAL PROOF of just how powerful the ScR is.
_______________________ Scrambler stats http://imgur.com/TD62D8c _______________________
_______________________ Rail Rifle stats http://imgur.com/E7f6KgL _______________________
Now with this being said, why does the ScR do MORE BASE DAMAGE IN ARMOR THAN A RAIL RIFLE? You may say. "Oh well that's simple, the ScR is a semi auto weapon." Well lets be honest, a charge shot or a few rapid succession shots will do the trick every time, and that not even counting the aScR. Plus the fact that a RR's aim is so terrible that after a few seconds of firing you have to stop and start again, but IT GETS EVEN BETTER. The RR had a damage nerf, a increase in kick, a range nerf, AND A CHARGE UP TIME NERF. While the scrambler is sitting untouched along with THE LASER RIFLE WHICH JUST HAS TO TOUCH A CAL ASSAULT AND HES DEAD. The TTK on laser weapons is much like playing CoD. If you even remotely care about the Caldari Assault then you will fix this please. Youve been provided with visual proof and if you still don't believe me, go make a cal assault fit and throw yourself into the mix and watch as you get steam rolled over, and over, and over again. And if thats not enough proof, I will start recording my gameplay to show real time visual proof to the entire community so that people can't say that I'm lying (not a threat in any way shape or form just trying to prove that this problem exists).
Time is our real enemy
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Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary
7
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Posted - 2015.05.29 20:19:00 -
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Something that minor won't lose vets
Aloha snackbar
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FUCKKING TANK
G0DS AM0NG MEN New Eden's Heros
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Posted - 2015.05.29 20:21:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Something that minor won't lose vets
that minor? Some people can't afford to respec all the time or just like cal assault. So why should they be forced to spend real money to accommodate the mistakes that aren't their fault?
Time is our real enemy
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Stupid Blueberry
Escrow Removal and Acquisition No Context
1
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Posted - 2015.05.29 20:25:00 -
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FUCKKING TANK wrote:This isn't in any way a hate post against CCP, but I would however like to point out the pure fact that you've buffed scramblers and pretty much everything else that does shield damage. ANY weapon in this game does ridiculous shield damage as it is and I will die from a ******* MILITIA SUIT RUNNING AN ScR. This game does not have the appeal to many users anymore specifically because now all you have to do is slap a scrambler on any suit and its instantly better than almost any other weapon. Please explain why you have not touched combat rifles, buffed scramblers, buffed assault rifles, and nerfed rail rifles? That instantly screws all caldari assaults and makes it so we have to stack armor plates just to kill a advanced amarr assault. There is no logic in this and is why I'm really considering quitting this game (Im sure I'm not the only one either). And for all you Amarr assaults, Ive ran the Amarr assault Ak.0 for a long time so don't tell me that I don't know this or don't know that about them because I do. I can pull out my opus assault and wreck pretty much any caldari or any other race for that matter and I don't have a single point into Amarr assault or ScR. Don't tell me its my internet connection, because I only lag when it comes to the meat grinder. I would also like to suggest that if you don't intend on nerfing the ridiculously over powered laser weapons, then at leased restore the Rail Rifle to where it was before you took a dump on it, give caldari a chance to fight back instead of just having to flop over and die instantly. Ive respeced 7 times and I'm done. Ive spend $500 on this game and I've been play constantly for 3 years now and this is just ridiculous. I also will be providing VISUAL PROOF of just how powerful the ScR is. _______________________ Scrambler stats http://imgur.com/TD62D8c_______________________ _______________________ Rail Rifle stats http://imgur.com/E7f6KgL_______________________ Now with this being said, why does the ScR do MORE BASE DAMAGE IN ARMOR THAN A RAIL RIFLE? You may say. "Oh well that's simple, the ScR is a semi auto weapon." Well lets be honest, a charge shot or a few rapid succession shots will do the trick every time, and that not even counting the aScR. Plus the fact that a RR's aim is so terrible that after a few seconds of firing you have to stop and start again, but IT GETS EVEN BETTER. The RR had a damage nerf, a increase in kick, a range nerf, AND A CHARGE UP TIME NERF. While the scrambler is sitting untouched along with THE LASER RIFLE WHICH JUST HAS TO TOUCH A CAL ASSAULT AND HES DEAD. The TTK on laser weapons is much like playing CoD. If you even remotely care about the Caldari Assault then you will fix this please. Youve been provided with visual proof and if you still don't believe me, go make a cal assault fit and throw yourself into the mix and watch as you get steam rolled over, and over, and over again. And if thats not enough proof, I will start recording my gameplay to show real time visual proof to the entire community so that people can't say that I'm lying (not a threat in any way shape or form just trying to prove that this problem exists).
Thank you. Btw you should run cal logi instead. Its like people laugh too hard when they see me so it ruins their aim or something.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
Blueberry smokin' that crack y'all
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7th Son 7
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.05.29 20:34:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Something that minor won't lose vets
I disagree, making Caldari get eatin up at their own game is bs. Caldari are becoming the laughing stock of this game quick. If you don't see that, I don't know what to say.
Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
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Songs of Seraphim
Negative-Feedback.
1
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Posted - 2015.05.29 21:06:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Something that minor won't lose vets I disagree, making Caldari get eatin up at their own game is bs. Caldari are becoming the laughing stock of this game quick. If you don't see that, I don't know what to say.
What happened to HTFU?
I run Caldari suits nonstop, I still excel.
If I had more time on my hands, I'd jot numbers down and put them on a spreadsheet for the head Dev to see. Shields are hard-mode. But you all gotta harden the **** up.
Caldari Loyalist
Join Caldari FW via Kirjuun Saaja
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FUCKKING TANK
G0DS AM0NG MEN New Eden's Heros
5
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Posted - 2015.05.29 21:28:00 -
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Songs of Seraphim wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Something that minor won't lose vets I disagree, making Caldari get eatin up at their own game is bs. Caldari are becoming the laughing stock of this game quick. If you don't see that, I don't know what to say. What happened to HTFU? I run Caldari suits nonstop, I still excel. If I had more time on my hands, I'd jot numbers down and put them on a spreadsheet for the head Dev to see. Shields are hard-mode. But you all gotta harden the **** up.
You looked at the stats posted in the pictures right?
Time is our real enemy
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The Desired Angel
EVE'S Best Evil Syndicate Alliance.
7
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Posted - 2015.05.29 21:57:00 -
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I think lasers are fine as they are, they require a good amount of skill as it's easy to hide behind something before the damage builds up. On the other hand, scramblers seem to be quite effective against shields and armor alike, with me witnessing and experiencing my armor disappearing in no time.
Despite these things, I still do alright in my calmando on my alt, it's just one of those things you gotta adapt to. |
Varoth Drac
Dead Man's Game
929
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Posted - 2015.05.29 22:03:00 -
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You can't compare auto and semi auto on paper dps, because it doesn't accurately represent in game dps.
Better to compare the scrambler rifle to the Tac AR. The Tac AR has higher dps, and yet people don't complain about that. People are just jumping on a bandwagon to get the scrambler rifle nerfed. |
Songs of Seraphim
Negative-Feedback.
1
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Posted - 2015.05.29 22:15:00 -
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FUCKKING TANK wrote:Songs of Seraphim wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Something that minor won't lose vets I disagree, making Caldari get eatin up at their own game is bs. Caldari are becoming the laughing stock of this game quick. If you don't see that, I don't know what to say. What happened to HTFU? I run Caldari suits nonstop, I still excel. If I had more time on my hands, I'd jot numbers down and put them on a spreadsheet for the head Dev to see. Shields are hard-mode. But you all gotta harden the **** up. You looked at the stats posted in the pictures right?
I know both of these stats without looking at your image. Not being cocky or condescending, I've just played with and against these rifles.
There isn't going to be a rifle pass in a while, so, at the moment, there isn't much we can do. So if you aren't up to shield tank, use a different suit.
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Join Caldari FW via Kirjuun Saaja
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Back and Forth
8
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Posted - 2015.05.29 22:18:00 -
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FUCKKING TANK wrote:This isn't in any way a hate post against CCP, but I would however like to point out the pure fact that you've buffed scramblers and pretty much everything else that does shield damage. ANY weapon in this game does ridiculous shield damage as it is and I will die from a ******* MILITIA SUIT RUNNING AN ScR. This game does not have the appeal to many users anymore specifically because now all you have to do is slap a scrambler on any suit and its instantly better than almost any other weapon. Please explain why you have not touched combat rifles, buffed scramblers, buffed assault rifles, and nerfed rail rifles? That instantly screws all caldari assaults and makes it so we have to stack armor plates just to kill a advanced amarr assault. There is no logic in this and is why I'm really considering quitting this game (Im sure I'm not the only one either). And for all you Amarr assaults, Ive ran the Amarr assault Ak.0 for a long time so don't tell me that I don't know this or don't know that about them because I do. I can pull out my opus assault and wreck pretty much any caldari or any other race for that matter and I don't have a single point into Amarr assault or ScR. Don't tell me its my internet connection, because I only lag when it comes to the meat grinder. I would also like to suggest that if you don't intend on nerfing the ridiculously over powered laser weapons, then at leased restore the Rail Rifle to where it was before you took a dump on it, give caldari a chance to fight back instead of just having to flop over and die instantly. Ive respeced 7 times and I'm done. Ive spend $500 on this game and I've been play constantly for 3 years now and this is just ridiculous. I also will be providing VISUAL PROOF of just how powerful the ScR is. _______________________ Scrambler stats http://imgur.com/TD62D8c_______________________ _______________________ Rail Rifle stats http://imgur.com/E7f6KgL_______________________ Now with this being said, why does the ScR do MORE BASE DAMAGE IN ARMOR THAN A RAIL RIFLE? You may say. "Oh well that's simple, the ScR is a semi auto weapon." Well lets be honest, a charge shot or a few rapid succession shots will do the trick every time, and that not even counting the aScR. Plus the fact that a RR's aim is so terrible that after a few seconds of firing you have to stop and start again, but IT GETS EVEN BETTER. The RR had a damage nerf, a increase in kick, a range nerf, AND A CHARGE UP TIME NERF. While the scrambler is sitting untouched along with THE LASER RIFLE WHICH JUST HAS TO TOUCH A CAL ASSAULT AND HES DEAD. The TTK on laser weapons is much like playing CoD. If you even remotely care about the Caldari Assault then you will fix this please. Youve been provided with visual proof and if you still don't believe me, go make a cal assault fit and throw yourself into the mix and watch as you get steam rolled over, and over, and over again. And if thats not enough proof, I will start recording my gameplay to show real time visual proof to the entire community so that people can't say that I'm lying (not a threat in any way shape or form just trying to prove that this problem exists).
I don't know what this big problem that is losing veterans is nor will i ever find out because walls of text are scary.
Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
10
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Posted - 2015.05.29 22:19:00 -
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FUCKKING TANK wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Something that minor won't lose vets that minor? Some people can't afford to respec all the time or just like cal assault. So why should they be forced to spend real money to accommodate the mistakes that aren't their fault? Constant respecs are just FotM chasing.
Be patient. Rattati meantioned wanting to wait and do all the rifle and/or weapon balancing in one go.
If his data shows problem weapons they will get fixed in time.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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se7enSAINTSVII
1
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Posted - 2015.05.29 22:20:00 -
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FUCKKING TANK wrote:This isn't in any way a hate post against CCP, but I would however like to point out the pure fact that you've buffed scramblers and pretty much everything else that does shield damage. ANY weapon in this game does ridiculous shield damage as it is and I will die from a ******* MILITIA SUIT RUNNING AN ScR. This game does not have the appeal to many users anymore specifically because now all you have to do is slap a scrambler on any suit and its instantly better than almost any other weapon. Please explain why you have not touched combat rifles, buffed scramblers, buffed assault rifles, and nerfed rail rifles? That instantly screws all caldari assaults and makes it so we have to stack armor plates just to kill a advanced amarr assault. There is no logic in this and is why I'm really considering quitting this game (Im sure I'm not the only one either). And for all you Amarr assaults, Ive ran the Amarr assault Ak.0 for a long time so don't tell me that I don't know this or don't know that about them because I do. I can pull out my opus assault and wreck pretty much any caldari or any other race for that matter and I don't have a single point into Amarr assault or ScR. Don't tell me its my internet connection, because I only lag when it comes to the meat grinder. I would also like to suggest that if you don't intend on nerfing the ridiculously over powered laser weapons, then at leased restore the Rail Rifle to where it was before you took a dump on it, give caldari a chance to fight back instead of just having to flop over and die instantly. Ive respeced 7 times and I'm done. Ive spend $500 on this game and I've been play constantly for 3 years now and this is just ridiculous. I also will be providing VISUAL PROOF of just how powerful the ScR is.
_______________________ .
this is the exact reason i skilled out of my pro caldari assault cos milita twats were taking out all my shield with MULITIA this is so stupid.
i am guilty i do use pro scram and pro amaar assault and its crazy just the other day i took out a caldari sentinel ck.0 shields out 800+ shield with just one charge shot now thats stupid.
shield users have to deal with fluxes op shield annihilating weapons, and shield itself which is just a pile of bull crap.
SHIELD NEED SOME LOVE RIGHT NOW CCP and you better give it some or else or else ILL SLIDE-TACKLE YOUR MUM RATTATI, U HEARD
BendNOVA or Be Sliced and Diced
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Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary
7
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Posted - 2015.05.29 22:41:00 -
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FUCKKING TANK wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Something that minor won't lose vets that minor? Some people can't afford to respec all the time or just like cal assault. So why should they be forced to spend real money to accommodate the mistakes that aren't their fault? Not everybody is a **** who tries to respec to chase the FotM
Aloha snackbar
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
1
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Posted - 2015.05.29 22:52:00 -
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OP says he has ran an assault AK.0 for awhile, then said he has no skills in amarr assault or scrambler. So which is it? Can't be both..
I'm inclined to disbelieve everything you said at this point. Chalking this up as another butthurt post...
Edit: he also said the scrambler hasn't been touched ever. What was that old ROF again? Get your facts straight before going on your next rant.
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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7th Son 7
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.05.29 22:57:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:OP says he has ran an assault AK.0 for awhile, then said he has no skills in amarr assault or scrambler. So which is it? Can't be both..
I'm inclined to disbelieve everything you said at this point. Chalking this up as another butthurt post...
Edit: he also said the scrambler hasn't been touched ever. What was that old ROF again? Get your facts straight before going on your next rant.
He also said he respeced 7 times. You must have missed that, so maybe it's you we should'nt believe.
Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
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FUCKKING TANK
G0DS AM0NG MEN New Eden's Heros
5
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Posted - 2015.05.29 23:04:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:OP says he has ran an assault AK.0 for awhile, then said he has no skills in amarr assault or scrambler. So which is it? Can't be both..
I'm inclined to disbelieve everything you said at this point. Chalking this up as another butthurt post...
Edit: he also said the scrambler hasn't been touched ever. What was that old ROF again? Get your facts straight before going on your next rant.
I respecced genius and the scrambler that i have now is all a basic OPUS ASSAULT. Im full Caldari Assault and mando now. Pay attention to text before you try and be so skeptical.
Time is our real enemy
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
1
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Posted - 2015.05.30 12:57:00 -
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Ha, that was a big fuckin wall of text. Honestly, I didn't even try and read it all. Maybe learn some line breaks?
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
714
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Posted - 2015.05.30 13:34:00 -
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Dude, there has been plenty of threads that claim CCP will lose vets if they remove/nerf/buff X. While some have left, many have returned. CCP is not worrying about the extortion tactic. Every dev knows the big money doesn't come from the vets anyway.
Saying what's on people's minds
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.05.30 14:01:00 -
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China called they want their wall back.
Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
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deezy dabest
2
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Posted - 2015.05.30 14:54:00 -
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Actual vets are specialized into 5+ suits and 3+ weapons so I do not think they really care.
Misleading titles do not help your case.
Also SO MANY LOLs at the fact that you are comparing the stats of the ScR with 3 damage mods on it to the stats of the rail rifle with zero damage mods on it.
Step your trolls up man that is just weak sauce. |
lowdevil
Savage Bullet RUST415
77
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Posted - 2015.05.30 15:09:00 -
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You only lag on one map?! you must not know what latency is. It causes almost every glitch in this game. Ever notice some people just don't take damage the way they should? latency sir. Scramblers are funny cause when you try to use them like a rifle and aim they don't do as much damage as when you just run up to someone and just mash the button while strafing like a 4year old. Eliminate all aim assist and see who reins supreme, hackers aside. (they don't count, they're not real players, just insecure scrubs).
of course you could just start using the op weapon and stop complaining like the cool kids. That hamster they have fixing bugs broke the wheel already from overuse. When the wheel is fixed he can start at bug 1 in a never ending pile. |
Cody Sietz
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
4
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Posted - 2015.05.30 15:10:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Something that minor won't lose vets Actually, the fact that we haven't had a major balancing pass in awhile really does make me wanna quit the game sometimes.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
1
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Posted - 2015.05.30 15:37:00 -
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Before you spontaneously explode i'd advise you to look at all of the rifle stats. Here's the assault vairants, because the Assauly scramblers had the buff to damage. Without damage mods, jesus.
Ishukone Assault Rail Rifle: Base DPS: 420m Vs Shield: 378 Vs Armor: 462 Effective range 97m Optimal: 72m
Carthum Assault ScR
Base DPS: 494 Vs Shield: 592 Vs Armor: 395 Effective range 88m Optimal: 55 m
Six kin Assault Combat rifle:
Base DPS: 436 Vs Shield: 371 Vs Armor: 502 Effective range : 79M Optimal: 62 m
Duvolle AR Base DPS: 453 Vs Shield: 498 Vs Armor: 408 Effective range 70m Optimal: 40m
Can you tell the trend boys and girls? Range in inversley prportional to DPS. Scramblers seem out of wack vs shields, but every other weapon destoyes it vs Armor.
You have a 17 m range advantage with the Rail rifle. In a straight fight at 72 m RR Optimal,
the Carthum Assault/ Ishukune RR Base damage: 328 /420 Vs shields: 394 /378 Vs Armor 262 / 462
So, Mr. Hardcore vet, at long rage the RR still has the advantage.
duvolle does 156 base damge at 72 m. ACR does 269 base damage at 72m. RR does 420 base damage.
Please caldari victims, please just shut up.
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
"I sometimes wonder why I share stuff "- CCP Rattati
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Pocket Rocket Girl
Psygod9
425
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Posted - 2015.05.30 15:54:00 -
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FUCKKING TANK wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Something that minor won't lose vets that minor? Some people can't afford to respec all the time or just like cal assault. So why should they be forced to spend real money to accommodate the mistakes that aren't their fault?
ive been seeing a increase of cal asult suit with 500+ shields so yeah just because you can show us stats it doesnt reflect actual combat data ,player style ,or skill .
Moo?
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Le Moo?
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bastille123
20
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Posted - 2015.05.30 16:17:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2794530#post2794530
i told ya ....
no matter how good an online game may be. if the comunity is crap the game is crap
-ghost from closed beta-
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.05.30 16:19:00 -
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Real issue that veterans face is a lack of content. Many of us have already completely maxxed out everything in Dropsuit Upgrades, maxxed out our favored weapons, and some dropsuits. There's no-where left to progress except into other specializations we either don't care for or simply aren't good with.
Trust me. I'm sitting on about 75,000,000 SP right now.
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.05.30 16:37:00 -
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Let's summarise what we got.
ScR is better than any other gun in this game. It utterly destroys everything on its path. It's godlike.
Yet i see a problem here. Why 90% of slayers use a/CR and a/RR?
Don't they know that ScR is better! Ow man. I hope they won't read this. I'm sure everybody will use ScR after readinig your post! [sarcasm]
Loyal to The State
Supporter of : Guristas and The Khanid Kingdom
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu
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FUCKKING TANK
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
8
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Posted - 2015.06.01 20:03:00 -
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The reason that I'm comparing the ScR with 3 complex damage mods on it is because thats what pretty much every amaro assault would run, and the caldari fit, with 600+shields still doesn't even stand a chance. Go play caldari for a few matches and just see how quickly you get rolled. by everything, a MLT aScR will destroy your shields and half your armor just by walking across the fking street. so until you tell caldari's to stop bitching then why don't you go try it out your self. And my title is not mis leading, I've respected 7 times and have every fkin pack there is to get on this game so my next question is, why should i have to spend yet even more money on this game because ccp makes something op?? I shouldn't when I've already given them well over $600. Its not my fault when a weapon or suit gets balanced wrong. Have you noticed that all you have to do anymore is stick a scrambler on any suit and it will win? Just go on protofits.com and see for yourselves. I'm done trying to explain things to people who don't even know what its like to get @$$ FK'D by literally everything no matter how much shields you stack. Good luck in your future endeavors.
Time is our real enemy
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Her Chosen
Grade No.2
292
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Posted - 2015.06.01 20:08:00 -
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Look around, Buttercup...
The vets have left a long time ago...
bi-polar
Latest Upload
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Squagga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
689
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Posted - 2015.06.01 21:01:00 -
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They just "nerf'd" scramblers. It would be a lot more likely to get a buff to shields, like countless other people are making threads about this, every day
Shields, the silent killer.
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
1
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Posted - 2015.06.01 21:19:00 -
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FUCKKING TANK wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Something that minor won't lose vets that minor? Some people can't afford to respec all the time or just like cal assault. So why should they be forced to spend real money to accommodate the mistakes that aren't their fault? Cause this is Dust514.
That is how it always works, skill into something, CCP deploys the Nerf Hammer of Doom, and you look at the now worthless expenditure of ISK (for the books and better gear) and SP that costs 38k AUR to retrieve. This is not new behavior. I have been here since the closed Beta and it is a definite pattern. The resets in the Beta made sense and we did get resets when the game changed very dramatically out from under us (although one was only because of a near revolt). But we never have seen returned SP/ISK for a single weapon class getting Nerf Hammered.
I am skilled heavy into assault rifles, Nerf Hammered so many times I have lost track. Rail Rifles, Scrambler Rifles, Sniper Rifles. Not yet, SOON(tm), and ... you got it - Nerf Hammered at least twice (maybe three times now).
CCP Rattati says the Scrambler Rifle Nerf Hammer is coming BTW. So chill out a bit, everybody down here in the dust gets Nerf Hammered sooner or later.
On a realistic note your complaint about Militia suits make little sense to me, no insult intended:
Assume X value for damage (any weapon), then added in the 5% bonus damage for playing WarbargeVille. Next comes the Proficiency bonus 5*5% against whatever. The bonus to CPU/PG allows better gear to be fitted (salvage gear or box presents) to a cheap suit. (X*1.05)+(X*1.25) = Yep, that sucker is gonna hurt you and they don't need a PRO/OFF Scramble Rifle to do it.
A PRO level tank driver can cause a lot of trouble in a Sica or a Soma, same is true for PRO Mercs in MLT suits.
My favorite tank is a Lightning. Just sayin.
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy No Context
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Posted - 2015.06.01 21:20:00 -
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inb4 scr defenders
Im just a glorified blueberry
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
1
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Posted - 2015.06.01 21:35:00 -
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Stop being bad.
The cup is not half empty as pacifists sayyyyyyyyy
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Archduke Ferd1nand
Nos Nothi
510
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Posted - 2015.06.01 21:58:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:inb4 scr defenders Too late.
The "Don't nerf me; it takes skills to put SP into the most overpowered weapon in the game" brigade has already arrived.
BRB, looking for socks
PSN: tommygunboy2080
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Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary
7
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Posted - 2015.06.01 22:16:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Actual vets are specialized into 5+ suits and 3+ weapons so I do not think they really care.
Misleading titles do not help your case.
Also SO MANY LOLs at the fact that you are comparing the stats of the ScR with 3 damage mods on it to the stats of the rail rifle with zero damage mods on it.
Step your trolls up man that is just weak sauce. I **** you not, when I graduated basic training, my platoon's motto was "That's all weak sauce"
But while the thread itself is completely idiotic, it does have some truth as far as racial balance. Amarr are armor tanks: they can afford to throw on 3 damage mods. Caldari can't.
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Protocake JR
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
1
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Posted - 2015.06.01 23:56:00 -
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Oh look, this thread again.
Cal Assault + RR is not as bad as people say it is (I run it 50% of the time). If it's the worst suit, it's by a very small margin.
The amount of scrubs with Scramblers running around is astounding, there are only a handful of people out there that really make the Scrambler look overpowered. If you are constantly getting slayed my militias using Scrs then you probably aren't very good, to be honest.
My verdict is that you respec back into a logi and/or scout suit and focus on non killing support roles because no rifle buff/nerf will make you perform any better.
Y-axis sensitivity: 100%
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Vitharr Foebane
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2015.06.02 01:22:00 -
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OP claims LR is overpowered... Credibility gone...
Amarr Omnisoldier: Assault, Commando, Logistics, Scout, Sentinel at V
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WeapondigitX V7
The Exemplars
420
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Posted - 2015.06.02 01:25:00 -
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caldari is hard mode because of game and map design.
caldari need to be long range to survive, however there rail rifles have too much recoil to properly utilize there long range strengths. there shield regen delays can be overcome but that leaves you without damps and other utility mods. having a balance or regen and hp works ok (70 hp regen and 370-400 shields) with low regen delays,
However there are barely any objectives that are out in the open anymore. makes it hard for caldari to defend objectives (caldari are still useful though). Having hackable sub objectives that do small things like creating anomaly portals or a set time would be interesting. Placing those sub objectives in the open would give caldari some more usefulness, they would have more things to defend in a way that they can do well.
Giving caldari assaults slightly better default shield delay stats might help, but I would support another idea more:
caldari shields have a damage threshold that needs to be overcome (roughly 15hp) in order to stop shield regeneration. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
19
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Posted - 2015.06.02 01:27:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote:Before you spontaneously explode i'd advise you to look at all of the rifle stats. Here's the assault vairants, because the Assauly scramblers had the buff to damage. Without damage mods, jesus.
Ishukone Assault Rail Rifle: Base DPS: 420m Vs Shield: 378 Vs Armor: 462 Effective range 97m Optimal: 72m
Carthum Assault ScR
Base DPS: 494 Vs Shield: 592 Vs Armor: 395 Effective range 88m Optimal: 55 m
Six kin Assault Combat rifle:
Base DPS: 436 Vs Shield: 371 Vs Armor: 502 Effective range : 79M Optimal: 62 m
Duvolle AR Base DPS: 453 Vs Shield: 498 Vs Armor: 408 Effective range 70m Optimal: 40m
Can you tell the trend boys and girls? Range in inversley prportional to DPS. Scramblers seem out of wack vs shields, but every other weapon destoyes it vs Armor.
You have a 17 m range advantage with the Rail rifle. In a straight fight at 72 m RR Optimal,
the Carthum Assault/ Ishukune RR Base damage: 328 /420 Vs shields: 394 /378 Vs Armor 262 / 462
So, Mr. Hardcore vet, at long rage the RR still has the advantage.
duvolle does 156 base damge at 72 m. ACR does 269 base damage at 72m. RR does 420 base damage.
Please caldari victims, please just shut up.
<3 U Tesfa.
"Crush all who complain!"
- Arkena Wyrnspire
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Nachos
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Posted - 2015.06.02 02:43:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:FUCKKING TANK wrote: WALL OF TEXT
I don't know what this big problem that is losing veterans is nor will i ever find out because walls of text are scary.
we all know that your ugly am scout face is scary....
zor's alt
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy No Context
4
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Posted - 2015.06.02 04:17:00 -
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Songs of Seraphim wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Something that minor won't lose vets I disagree, making Caldari get eatin up at their own game is bs. Caldari are becoming the laughing stock of this game quick. If you don't see that, I don't know what to say. What happened to HTFU? I run Caldari suits nonstop, I still excel. If I had more time on my hands, I'd jot numbers down and put them on a spreadsheet for the head Dev to see. Shields are hard-mode. But you all gotta harden the **** up. My KDR with shield suits has gone up methinks... Its a weird occurrence. I play less aggressively and more with my head, which let's me spend less time respawning and more time killing people at range.
Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons
I am the Anti-FoTM
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All Gucci
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
254
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Posted - 2015.06.02 05:27:00 -
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FUCKKING TANK wrote:The reason that I'm comparing the ScR with 3 complex damage mods on it is because thats what pretty much every amaro assault would run, and the caldari fit, with 600+shields still doesn't even stand a chance. Go play caldari for a few matches and just see how quickly you get rolled. by everything, a MLT aScR will destroy your shields and half your armor just by walking across the fking street. so until you tell caldari's to stop bitching then why don't you go try it out your self. And my title is not mis leading, I've respected 7 times and have every fkin pack there is to get on this game so my next question is, why should i have to spend yet even more money on this game because ccp makes something op?? I shouldn't when I've already given them well over $600. Its not my fault when a weapon or suit gets balanced wrong. Have you noticed that all you have to do anymore is stick a scrambler on any suit and it will win? Just go on protofits.com and see for yourselves. I'm done trying to explain things to people who don't even know what its like to get @$$ FK'D by literally everything no matter how much shields you stack. Good luck in your future endeavors.
The ScR/Amarr assault were the first things I ever skilled into and It took me a while to learn how to properly use my weapon that includes learning how to track targets and shoot, and avoiding over heating and taking 50 damage. (none of you cry babies ever acknowledge this) which is also more than the hp difference between cal/gal assault and amarr assault. and just 25 hp away from min assault. the weapon isn't as user friendly as all the other weapon that shave off a portion of thier health for going past the clip/overheat ooh wait they don't..... but I do see where you coming from because I have become a beast with this thing. for 85% of my dust career I have used a basic scr on a ferro scaled adv amarr assault and have gotten some of my best games, 60/0 being one of them. so I have some insight also into your claims, yes it is a good weapon but it is just that. a good weapon. the player on the end makes the gun theirs. with that being said I've had similar result with the cr/acr and arr. recently I have found myself using my ck 0 assault a lot ever since I found out its the perfect suit for my core nades and sheild tanking feels like god mode in 1v1 situation with cover/escape and even better snipers don't bother me or kill me as much. my weekly and month are at 5.05 and 7.something lol not sure the exact number and i don't feel like getting up to find them. but I have done this cal assault "hard mode" and its not that hard lol 4 complex sheild / 1 Complex energizer / 3 complex regulators/Ishukune arr/cores is my ideal fit. I've been doing so well that some of our corp mates have asked for my fit and tips on how to approach calass.... not sure if it worked for them though lol I've come across a couple scr but only been instant killed by a charge shot from some random ass area that I could've sworn I checked what all this means is you are just not doing it right because any score is possible with any weapon and suit. if I can pick up sheild tanking and excel at it you also can... just play to its strength and watch the killfeed for viziam/carthum scr... you will want to engage them only if you have the jump on them. I use a core nade or two for these guys if you don't believe me instead of me recording a video we could squad and I'll get most kills if no other try hards like sax or crystal are with us.
Director / Slayer / Emperor
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nelo kazuma
Ecce Initio RLC. RUST415
236
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Posted - 2015.06.02 07:13:00 -
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One of the main if not main issue is the amount of sp needed to be put into any of the cal suits to make them viable I have over 50 skilled into cal suits I own all proto except cal scout. Ive capped out biotics in all categorys precision damp range all capped all equipment hacking lvl 5 now rr at lvl 5 in everything except pg fitting which Is 4 the list goes on armor and shield capped in every category also. So my cal suits are awesome but for new players who are just starting its very difficult to make viable fits.
Now With every other suit n race n weapon its much easier from start to finish. Allot of it is shield vs armor. Other is weapon effectiveness of weapons against shield. Rr armor dmg nerf was overdone main reason for its complaint was armor was alpha at the time and its meant to be the alpha armor weapon but community complaints trumphed a reasonable solution to it. When shield weapons out trumph armor weapons in armor dmg it should be obvious there is an issue.
Armor is way easier to skill into and are easier to fit. shield modules take up to much room and with cal cpu and pg being low across all the suits it hard to even fit them unless ur capped in cpu pg dropsuit upgrades and some even into pg fitting on certain weapons.
Now that being said if u can grind it out and skill Into whats necessary for your suit any cal suit is awesome its not for the faint of heart and its not easy but its one of the most dangerous races of the game just not many of us out there but those of us who know how to run em are a force to be reckoned with. Especially well known at that.
FOR THE STATE ^(-_-) Cal Loyalist For Life
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V1RONXSS
X-SENSE Security
51
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Posted - 2015.06.02 07:29:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:Dude, there has been plenty of threads that claim CCP will lose vets if they remove/nerf/buff X. While some have left, many have returned. CCP is not worrying about the extortion tactic. Every dev knows the big money doesn't come from the vets anyway.
There no big money at all, depends ofcourse what you call big money... But shields need to be fixed, C.A. is poor Dust.
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Lost Apollo
90
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Posted - 2015.07.04 04:51:00 -
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Songs of Seraphim wrote:
If I had more time on my hands, I'd jot numbers down and put them on a spreadsheet for the head Dev to see. Shields are hard-mode. But you all gotta harden the **** up.
I have spec'd into 5 CAL Logi/Assault
I barely have any armor (look at my signature lol) and I usually have between 450 and 550 shields and I usually do ok. I am not the best player but I have been on top, I have been on bottom. I run regulators on the armor side. I run the breach AR on my assault and ARR on my assault.
My armor is weak, but my shields are relentless.
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Tech Ohm Eaven
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.07.04 05:11:00 -
[47] - Quote
FUCKKING TANK wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Something that minor won't lose vets that minor? Some people can't afford to respec all the time or just like cal assault. So why should they be forced to spend real money to accommodate the mistakes that aren't their fault?
Tl,dr version qq qq qq qq qqq qqqqqqqqqqqq whaaaaaaa lasers qqqqqqqqqqqqqqq
B i t c h ._._._._.Please
You have no idea what a powerfull laser is
It used to be a laser was able to kill 8 clones in one swipe
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BARAGAMOS
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
45
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Posted - 2015.07.04 08:12:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:Dude, there has been plenty of threads that claim CCP will lose vets if they remove/nerf/buff X. While some have left, many have returned. CCP is not worrying about the extortion tactic. Every dev knows the big money doesn't come from the vets anyway.
Have you seen the server numbers....players are leaving. It's the same guys night after night. Some new guys show up, but they leave after a couple weeks of the stupid match making with officers...
So his point is valid. There is at least one of these threads a day on here, so if some is saying it how many are thinking it.
As for the Scrambler; I'm a low SP guy that just gets destroyed by it. My weapon can't kill before I get three shot killed in my Cal suits that are useless. I see and shot them first only to be insta jibbed by a gun that if you think is fair you're either an idiot or its your current FTM.
As for the guys commenting on a wall of text, try reading and get some education before you comment on others. That at least semilegitimizes your stupidity. |
deezy dabest
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
2
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Posted - 2015.07.04 08:22:00 -
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BARAGAMOS wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:Dude, there has been plenty of threads that claim CCP will lose vets if they remove/nerf/buff X. While some have left, many have returned. CCP is not worrying about the extortion tactic. Every dev knows the big money doesn't come from the vets anyway. Have you seen the server numbers....players are leaving. It's the same guys night after night. Some new guys show up, but they leave after a couple weeks of the stupid match making with officers... So his point is valid. There is at least one of these threads a day on here, so if some is saying it how many are thinking it. As for the Scrambler; I'm a low SP guy that just gets destroyed by it. My weapon can't kill before I get three shot killed in my Cal suits that are useless. I see and shot them first only to be insta jibbed by a gun that if you think is fair you're either an idiot or its your current FTM. As for the guys commenting on a wall of text, try reading and get some education before you comment on others. That at least semilegitimizes your stupidity.
http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust
It really does tell a sad story. We are in the middle of the normal "an update is coming" spike in combination with school being out for lots of people but at the rate PS4s are starting to sell and the games coming out for the PS4 the future is looking pretty grim.
Remove NPC orbitals from FW. -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest.
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Scotty AI MatchMaker
WarRavens D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2015.07.04 12:48:00 -
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oh are we waking up now? ive been banging on about how the Caldari are being purposely watered down so it affects FW for a long time now, yes true state loyalist players still go postal using Cal tech but tbh its either someone didnt realise a Gal player can pack a scrambler or its been done on purpose to influence the game FW wise. Im actually suprised the bolt pistol hasnt been nerfed into oblivion yet,
'There is an art to dying, but its a dying art.'
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KGB Sleep
Inner.Hell
1
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Posted - 2015.07.04 13:34:00 -
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The Devs broke all the Caldari stuff.
-CaLogi -Shields -Rail Rilfe -Forge Guns (nerfed splash too much) -Calsault bonus. -CalScout
All of this was protested by a number of full time Caldari players who just wanted to spec pure Caldari and have it be viable.
A lot of them did leave, esp after they broke the rail rifles, cloak and the Calscouts.
Just some bad balance passes is all, but hey what matters is fun and right now it isn't fun to be Caldari. They aren't up to par.
Meanwhile, everything else runs rampant and we have bunnies leaping buildings and hitting for 600+. How is that ok?
C'mon. Stop with the "everything gets its moment in the sun" model and fix it already.
Because beer, that's why.
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Tech Ohm Eaven
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.07.04 16:11:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:The Devs broke a lot of the Caldari stuff.
-CaLogi -Shields -Rail Rilfe -Forge Guns (nerfed splash too much) -Calsault bonus. -CalScout
All of this was protested by a number of full time Caldari players who just wanted to spec pure Caldari and have it be viable.
A lot of them did leave, esp after they broke the rail rifles, cloak and the Calscouts.
Just some bad balance passes is all, but hey what matters is fun and right now it isn't fun to be Caldari. They aren't up to par.
Meanwhile, everything else runs rampant and we have bunnies leaping buildings and hitting for 600+. How is that ok?
C'mon. Stop with the "everything gets its moment in the sun" model and fix it already. Are lasers back to kill 8 clones in one swipe? Till then i do not see the everything gets its moment in the sun
Are massdrivers back to kill in two or one hit?
Are flaylocks back to ohk?
Well?
Back to Ps4 games Laterz |
Tech Ohm Eaven
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.07.04 16:20:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:BARAGAMOS wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:Dude, there has been plenty of threads that claim CCP will lose vets if they remove/nerf/buff X. While some have left, many have returned. CCP is not worrying about the extortion tactic. Every dev knows the big money doesn't come from the vets anyway. Have you seen the server numbers....players are leaving. It's the same guys night after night. Some new guys show up, but they leave after a couple weeks of the stupid match making with officers... So his point is valid. There is at least one of these threads a day on here, so if some is saying it how many are thinking it. As for the Scrambler; I'm a low SP guy that just gets destroyed by it. My weapon can't kill before I get three shot killed in my Cal suits that are useless. I see and shot them first only to be insta jibbed by a gun that if you think is fair you're either an idiot or its your current FTM. As for the guys commenting on a wall of text, try reading and get some education before you comment on others. That at least semilegitimizes your stupidity. http://eve-offline.net/?server=dustIt really does tell a sad story. We are in the middle of the normal "an update is coming" spike in combination with school being out for lots of people but at the rate PS4s are starting to sell and the games coming out for the PS4 the future is looking pretty grim. Yup
Theres fallout four, fallout shelter, battlefront, blops 3, and more and more games comeing Plus starting 2016 more and no games are sorry folks but no ps3 360 version only Ps4 or xbox none |
Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
347
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Posted - 2015.07.04 17:11:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Tesfa Alem wrote:Before you spontaneously explode i'd advise you to look at all of the rifle stats. Here's the assault vairants, because the Assauly scramblers had the buff to damage. Without damage mods, jesus.
Ishukone Assault Rail Rifle: Base DPS: 420m Vs Shield: 378 Vs Armor: 462 Effective range 97m Optimal: 72m
Carthum Assault ScR
Base DPS: 494 Vs Shield: 592 Vs Armor: 395 Effective range 88m Optimal: 55 m
Six kin Assault Combat rifle:
Base DPS: 436 Vs Shield: 371 Vs Armor: 502 Effective range : 79M Optimal: 62 m
Duvolle AR Base DPS: 453 Vs Shield: 498 Vs Armor: 408 Effective range 70m Optimal: 40m
Can you tell the trend boys and girls? Range in inversley prportional to DPS. Scramblers seem out of wack vs shields, but every other weapon destoyes it vs Armor.
You have a 17 m range advantage with the Rail rifle. In a straight fight at 72 m RR Optimal,
the Carthum Assault/ Ishukune RR Base damage: 328 /420 Vs shields: 394 /378 Vs Armor 262 / 462
So, Mr. Hardcore vet, at long rage the RR still has the advantage.
duvolle does 156 base damge at 72 m. ACR does 269 base damage at 72m. RR does 420 base damage.
Please caldari victims, please just shut up.
<3 U Tesfa.
Ahh, math. Looks good on paper right?
On the field, that math means squat.
First, most scr users use the volley technique. Charge followed by spam.
So we up your vs shields dps to 794 and 262 armor dps is still more than enough to finish the job on 85% of cal suits.
Tested myself in fw on a lvl V calsent, charge does 390-410 at 60 meters with max resistances... Pair that with a recoil that climbs gently and predictably; your math means jack.
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SgtNONECK WASSSUP
0uter.Heaven
265
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Posted - 2015.07.04 17:22:00 -
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TL;DR scr is op and rr is up. The rr is fine dps wise it might need something done to the normal version but the assault is fine. The scrambler needs a dmg nerf. Or ccp needs to buff the cr/ar/rr to compete with its dps. |
BARAGAMOS
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
47
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Posted - 2015.07.04 17:34:00 -
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Devadander wrote:True Adamance wrote:Tesfa Alem wrote:Before you spontaneously explode i'd advise you to look at all of the rifle stats. Here's the assault vairants, because the Assauly scramblers had the buff to damage. Without damage mods, jesus.
Ishukone Assault Rail Rifle: Base DPS: 420m Vs Shield: 378 Vs Armor: 462 Effective range 97m Optimal: 72m
Carthum Assault ScR
Base DPS: 494 Vs Shield: 592 Vs Armor: 395 Effective range 88m Optimal: 55 m
Six kin Assault Combat rifle:
Base DPS: 436 Vs Shield: 371 Vs Armor: 502 Effective range : 79M Optimal: 62 m
Duvolle AR Base DPS: 453 Vs Shield: 498 Vs Armor: 408 Effective range 70m Optimal: 40m
Can you tell the trend boys and girls? Range in inversley prportional to DPS. Scramblers seem out of wack vs shields, but every other weapon destoyes it vs Armor.
You have a 17 m range advantage with the Rail rifle. In a straight fight at 72 m RR Optimal,
the Carthum Assault/ Ishukune RR Base damage: 328 /420 Vs shields: 394 /378 Vs Armor 262 / 462
So, Mr. Hardcore vet, at long rage the RR still has the advantage.
duvolle does 156 base damge at 72 m. ACR does 269 base damage at 72m. RR does 420 base damage.
Please caldari victims, please just shut up.
<3 U Tesfa. Ahh, math. Looks good on paper right? On the field, that math means squat. First, most scr users use the volley technique. Charge followed by spam. So we up your vs shields dps to 794 and 262 armor dps is still more than enough to finish the job on 85% of cal suits. Tested myself in fw on a lvl V calsent, charge does 390-410 at 60 meters with max resistances... Pair that with a recoil that climbs gently and predictably; your math means jack.
Dude anecdotal evidence is an idiots reply. ON PAPER is the reality. The numbers bear out over a large sample, which 1000s of players in 100s a day produce. So get some education so that you don't take up forum space because your pet gun needs nerfed. Bottom line, Check my other posts. I run Cal assault and the scram accounts for over 85% of my deaths over the last 2 weeks. That's a real number with real indications. And the OP is right. I get melted all day from Militia scrams. The rate of fire, rate, and dmg is way over the top and even worse on a shield suit.
No one enjoys getting three shot killed by somebody you already put 2-3 bullets into and that's what happens all day. Watch the kill board sometime. Count the Scram kills ( I know we established math is not your strong suit), but when in a game one gun type makes up the majority of kills there is an issue. Just look at the deployment screen and notice all the same suits geared Scrams and the one or two guys in cal get up. |
Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
787
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Posted - 2015.07.04 17:55:00 -
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God forbid someone doesn't complain about the scrambler......
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
787
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Posted - 2015.07.04 17:57:00 -
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By the way, the correct comparison for the ScR is the Tac AR as it's the only other tactical rifle in game. Do your math again and you will see a huge difference
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
787
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Posted - 2015.07.04 17:59:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:You can't compare auto and semi auto on paper dps, because it doesn't accurately represent in game dps.
Better to compare the scrambler rifle to the Tac AR. The Tac AR has higher dps, and yet people don't complain about that. People are just jumping on a bandwagon to get the scrambler rifle nerfed. THANK YOU!
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SgtNONECK WASSSUP
0uter.Heaven
265
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Posted - 2015.07.04 18:49:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:You can't compare auto and semi auto on paper dps, because it doesn't accurately represent in game dps.
Better to compare the scrambler rifle to the Tac AR. The Tac AR has higher dps, and yet people don't complain about that. People are just jumping on a bandwagon to get the scrambler rifle nerfed. THANK YOU!
I agree and the tac is easier to use lol... |
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.07.04 19:11:00 -
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Jokes aside we all know that ScR is doing better than it should.
I'm using it for a year now. So i know what i'm talking.
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
787
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Posted - 2015.07.04 19:19:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Jokes aside we all know that ScR is doing better than it should.
I'm using it for a year now. So i know what i'm talking. Yeah, you can feel it especially when up close
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DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
8
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Posted - 2015.07.04 21:32:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:China called they want their wall back. You are a savage.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Alaika Arbosa
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2015.07.04 22:23:00 -
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Post on your main?
I won't dodge another silver bullet
Just to save a little face
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Mex-0
Corrosive Synergy
757
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Posted - 2015.07.04 22:28:00 -
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FUCKKING TANK wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Something that minor won't lose vets that minor? Some people can't afford to respec all the time or just like cal assault. So why should they be forced to spend real money to accommodate the mistakes that aren't their fault? Aw yiss... let the butthurt flow through you..
If I insult you in some way, it's probably by accident.
probably.
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Zan Azikuchi
G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance
187
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Posted - 2015.07.05 02:12:00 -
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Songs of Seraphim wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Something that minor won't lose vets I disagree, making Caldari get eatin up at their own game is bs. Caldari are becoming the laughing stock of this game quick. If you don't see that, I don't know what to say. What happened to HTFU? I run Caldari suits nonstop, I still excel. If I had more time on my hands, I'd jot numbers down and put them on a spreadsheet for the head Dev to see. Shields are hard-mode. But you all gotta harden the **** up.
I agree, it's hard-mode and you need to harden up, but when you got a bunch of player's coming here and getting destroyed EASILY, it hurt's NPE, it hurt's the game.
One entire community that's never played before, shouldn't be limited to playing Gallente or Amarr suit's, all the suit's should be capable without trying hard, and if you try hard, you should excel.
When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
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