Agreed, so 3/3/4 for equipment, especially since I am also thinking of making the jack of all trades, basic mediums to have 2 eq.


Why not take downgrade the light weapon from CA to sidearm and leave the EQ? that's what I was thinking.

I strongly disagree.

Logistic suits are primarily about carrying equipment.

Giving up any equipment slot when your primary function is to carry equipment seems like an entirely poor and irrational choice to me.

And giving up the Light Weapon slot for a Sidearm slot in order to have an extra High/Low slot on a Logistics Suit which primary Equipment require the least amount of time in-hands seems like an even worse choice to me.

Hmm, I mean, sure... so, Cal logi would have an extra module slot, standard equipment progression, and only a sidearm...? That would certainly differentiate it. Best defense, worst offense, same equipment potential. This might be a balance nightmare, but still, intriquing.

Though I am not sure why it couldn't just have the standard logi slots numbers (so, same as gal and min)... It would be simpler, but perhaps also more boring ;)

I guess my only question is will the scouts lose the extra equipment slot if this goes through? It was given to them for the sole purpose of showing off the shiny new content way back when.

Just throwing this out there

Amarr logi is

3 HS / 1 L / 1 S /1G /3 EQ /4 LS

Instead of removing a low slot or the side arm, i propose trading the high slot

2 HS / 1 L / 1 S / 1 G / 4 EQ / 4 LS

Unless anybody can tell me what the third high can be used for on an armor suit, i think thats the best trade.

Absolutely. No logi should have only 2 equipment slots, not when scouts and potentially medium frames will match them on that.

However... there is a problem with the idea that the Amarr logi would have full equipment count AND its sidearm at standard and adv, if the other logis only get their full equipment count at proto. This would once again lead to the issue where while even if the different racial logis would be fairly balanced at proto tier, at lower tiers some of them would be comparatively better than others of the same tier... We have that now with the wonky module slot progression, and the whole point was to get rid of that issue finally.

Really, the only way I can see to address both those issues fairly is giving all Logis their full equipment slot count across all tiers.

For reasons already stated, the Amarr Logi should lose its sidearm. Slot layout should conform within racial and class boundaries. Either all logis should be 3E + S or none of them. There is a place for 3E + S but it should just become its own suit with its own, much clearer role.

All of this fighting is just a symptom of a deeper problem. Logistics has no clear role, and so everyone is commenting with their own bias and definition of what their version of a Logistics should be.

Rattati, define what role a Logistics should have in battle, and then you will get more relevant feedback. Until then, you will just get bickering and a flood of tears as forum warriors fight to the death over which vision of what a Logistics 'should be' is more correct.

As an aside, 'Support' is too general of an answer for what Logistics should be doing.

If 'Equipment' is the answer, then you need to consider how racial bonuses are fighting against that role definition. If you are thinking that 'equipment' is the Logistics role (I disagree and think that is still too general of a definition myself but its workable) then you need to remove or at least significantly mitigate the effect that racial bonuses have on that role.