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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.26 18:21:00 -
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from over 500HP damage down to 375HP. If you havent realised its only 2hp more damage then a thale while still only have a single shot before reload. Thats quite a significant nerf if you ask me which nobody was asking for.
Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.05.26 18:24:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:from over 500HP damage down to 375HP. If you havent realised its only 2hp more damage then a thale while still only have a single shot before reload. Thats quite a significant nerf if you ask me which nobody was asking for.
Are you serious it got nerfed? Ugh. Never used one yet, to afraid to loose them and they got nerfed. Come on ccp. WHY?
48th Special Operations Force
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tal mrak-thanl
Corrosive Synergy
1
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Posted - 2015.05.26 18:25:00 -
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Goddamit. I never got to use the one I've got. I hate dust so much right now.
Director - Corrosive Synergy
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.26 18:28:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:from over 500HP damage down to 375HP. If you havent realised its only 2hp more damage then a thale while still only have a single shot before reload. Thats quite a significant nerf if you ask me which nobody was asking for. Are you serious it got nerfed? Ugh. Never used one yet, to afraid to loose them and they got nerfed. Come on ccp. WHY?
Yeah ive went into my inventory (it shows now up there) and i press triangle it says it deals 375HP damage. Previously it dealt like 550 HP damage per shot. So yes it got ninja nerfed.
Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
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JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
1
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Posted - 2015.05.26 18:42:00 -
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NOOOOO THOSE ******* CRACKHEADS!!! **** YOU PLAYERS WHO CALL NERF ON A RODON SNIPER RIFLE!!!
**** the thales = trash.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! Die YOU SHADOW BEING IN THE DARK!!!
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bastille123
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Posted - 2015.05.26 18:44:00 -
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well no surprise there cosidering 80% of this comunity hates sniper rifles in general
no matter how good an online game may be. if the comunity is crap the game is crap
-ghost from closed beta-
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Sned TheDead
Failures inc.
295
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Posted - 2015.05.26 18:47:00 -
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aww man I was saving mine....
whelp that must mean they increased the drop rate right?
Right?
Riiight?
probably not....
Cleaning up the mess everyone leaves behind :)
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VAHZZ
The Nerf Herders
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Posted - 2015.05.26 18:47:00 -
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I'm a coming a herding
Bruh
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
804
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Posted - 2015.05.26 18:48:00 -
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OHK is ... still OHK.
But you can't AV now :P
Not much time left...
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The Eristic
Art.of.Death
992
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Posted - 2015.05.26 18:52:00 -
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This seems a pointless nerf.
Reality is the original Rorschach.
Verily! So much for all that.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.05.26 18:53:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:OHK is ... still OHK.
But you can't AV now :P
375 isn't enough to OHK anything except EWAR scouts and militia mediums.
The damage and having one shot was the thing that made it shine, and now, it's gone. GG, you made a good sniper rifle useless. |
Supernus Gigas
The Cooked Goose Coalition
1
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Posted - 2015.05.26 18:56:00 -
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Well there goes any value the Roden Sniper Rifle would have had.
Went from a relatively unique sniper rifle to a piece of **** no one's going to want.
FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVING CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!
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demens grimwulff
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.05.26 18:56:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Jack Boost wrote:OHK is ... still OHK.
But you can't AV now :P 375 isn't enough to OHK anything except EWAR scouts and militia mediums. The damage and having one shot was the thing that made it shine, and now, it's gone. GG, you made a good sniper rifle useless.
Does it still have the higher than normal headshot modifier? If so, learn to head shot... also, damage mods. You're a sniper, you won't need shields.
As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
7
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Posted - 2015.05.26 18:59:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:Joel II X wrote:Jack Boost wrote:OHK is ... still OHK.
But you can't AV now :P 375 isn't enough to OHK anything except EWAR scouts and militia mediums. The damage and having one shot was the thing that made it shine, and now, it's gone. GG, you made a good sniper rifle useless. Does it still have the higher than normal headshot modifier? If so, learn to head shot... also, damage mods. You're a sniper, you won't need shields.
Because getting headshots on a moving target on a game that has enough frames per second to count on your hands is easy.
Why use the Roden now when you have a Thale's? |
Keeriam Miray
Nos Nothi
503
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Posted - 2015.05.26 19:03:00 -
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You ppl forgetting that Roden is new PROTO variant & should be available in NPC market. Fix & nerf was expected.
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Supernus Gigas
The Cooked Goose Coalition
1
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Posted - 2015.05.26 19:09:00 -
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Keeriam Miray wrote:Fix & nerf was expected.
No, no it wasn't.
Go find me some forums posts where people complain about the damage of the Roden Sniper or any evidence that it was 'broken' in any way.
This is jut another "lol y the fuk not?" pointless change no one asked for, just like removing splash damage from Forge Guns.
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Squagga
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
644
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Posted - 2015.05.26 19:15:00 -
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Hahahahahahahaha
Shields, the silent killer.
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demens grimwulff
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
359
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Posted - 2015.05.26 19:16:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:
Because getting headshots on a moving target on a game that has enough frames per second to count on your hands is easy.
Why use the Roden now when you have a Thale's?
Honestly, some of the snipers I play with, those that do it fervently, can get headshots on moving targets. Albeit, maybe 10-20% of the time, but enough to matter and bring up the point (i.e. above background noise). As well, snipers, to be useful to a team, do a couple of tasks
1) point control (target is stationary; if a scout, a damage mod or two will 1 shot them regardless of placement)
2) lay of the land information and troop maneuvers (damage not necessary here, but zoom helps)
3) help remove enemies from the battlefield during large pushes... you can do this by killing, or what might be a solely unique idea that you're missing, damaging one or two of them enough that your assaults can easily kill them, stagger the push so that less filter in at once giving the assaults an easier time, or causing them to partially halt the push and retreat
I still see the use for the Rodens.
As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
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Patt MaCrotch
Dem Durrty Boyz
General Tso's Alliance
120
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Posted - 2015.05.26 19:16:00 -
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WTF?! This was my "go to" for the homos that sit up with a Forge on a high point and snipe. OHK it was, now it is worthless. I have 5, will sell as soon as we can. Might as well put 4 damage mods on a Thale and have the full clip. |
demens grimwulff
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
359
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Posted - 2015.05.26 19:20:00 -
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Patt MaCrotch wrote:WTF?! This was my "go to" for the homos that sit up with a Forge on a high point and snipe. OHK it was, now it is worthless. I have 5, will sell as soon as we can. Might as well put 4 damage mods on a Thale and have the full clip.
Depending on the way damage mods and damage increases (wb and prof) are applied, the Rodens can still do over 2100 damage in one shot to said heavies... still highly valuable
As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
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Count- -Crotchula
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.26 19:36:00 -
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500hp with ONE SHOT? as standard? without 5 complex damage mods and prof 5? REALLY?
and it didn't need to be brought in line with other rifles? now it's more powerful than a thale but was nerfed?
you people...............are what is wrong with this game!!!! |
Supernus Gigas
The Cooked Goose Coalition
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Posted - 2015.05.26 19:45:00 -
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Count- -Crotchula wrote:500hp with ONE SHOT? as standard? without 5 complex damage mods and prof 5? REALLY?
and it didn't need to be brought in line with other rifles? now it's more powerful than a thale but was nerfed?
you people...............are what is wrong with this game!!!!
It only has one round in it's magazine.
You can only shoot once, then you have to reload.
That's what made it unique; Very high damage, but you have to reload after every shot.
Why don't you make sure you know what you're talking about before you start being all dramatic.
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
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Posted - 2015.05.26 19:51:00 -
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I'd argue that they are rarer than a Thale's, seeing you can get a Thales out of EoM (albeight rare), strongboxes, and Exp Lab. Rosen's? Only from Exp Lab.
Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons
First to PM me with common name wins
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.05.26 19:51:00 -
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There was never a proper pass done on the roden I fear this is just a bandaid until we have time to address it directly.
CPM 1, Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
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bastille123
17
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Posted - 2015.05.26 19:59:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:There was never a proper pass done on the roden I fear this is just a bandaid until we have time to address it directly.
thats the thing trough bandaid for what exactly? a 1 shot reload weapon that had a justified damage for it , not only that but more is even more rare than a thale and yet it got a ```bandaid-¦-¦-¦-¦ from a fuctioning/ viable weapon to now almost useless sniper rifle(it still has 1 shot per mag)
no matter how good an online game may be. if the comunity is crap the game is crap
-ghost from closed beta-
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
7
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Posted - 2015.05.26 21:24:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:Joel II X wrote:
Because getting headshots on a moving target on a game that has enough frames per second to count on your hands is easy.
Why use the Roden now when you have a Thale's?
Honestly, some of the snipers I play with, those that do it fervently, can get headshots on moving targets. Albeit, maybe 10-20% of the time, but enough to matter and bring up the point (i.e. above background noise). As well, snipers, to be useful to a team, do a couple of tasks 1) point control (target is stationary; if a scout, a damage mod or two will 1 shot them regardless of placement) 2) lay of the land information and troop maneuvers (damage not necessary here, but zoom helps) 3) help remove enemies from the battlefield during large pushes... you can do this by killing, or what might be a solely unique idea that you're missing, damaging one or two of them enough that your assaults can easily kill them, stagger the push so that less filter in at once giving the assaults an easier time, or causing them to partially halt the push and retreat I still see the use for the Rodens.
1) I meant difficult, not impossible.
2) there's nothing a Thale's can't do better than a Rodens now, which is what I was emphasizing.
For IWS, no. Bandaid for what exactly? If it broke, don't fix it. |
Stormblade Green
KnightKiller's inc.
88
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Posted - 2015.05.26 21:27:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:from over 500HP damage down to 375HP. If you havent realised its only 2hp more damage then a thale while still only have a single shot before reload. Thats quite a significant nerf if you ask me which nobody was asking for.
I think 1 shooting a full Ehp stacked amarr sentinel comes to mind........
One might say... I'm very skilled... yet I'm his apprentice... So what does that say about my mentor?
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2015.05.26 21:29:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:There was never a proper pass done on the roden I fear this is just a bandaid until we have time to address it directly.
Why did you think it needed addressing at all? Is the game flooded with Roden sniper rifles?
Thank you Council of wedontevenPlaythegaMe |
demens grimwulff
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
359
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Posted - 2015.05.26 21:31:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:
1) I meant difficult, not impossible.
2) there's nothing a Thale's can't do better than a Rodens now, which is what I was emphasizing.
For IWS, no. Bandaid for what exactly? If it broke, don't fix it.
Now, see, here is where your logic is flawed.
To assume there should be a shining light amongst every weapon tree is wrong... the Roden is still very useful as a one shot weapon, but to assume it has to be flat out better thanks to an ultra-high damage is wrong. The same logic should be applied to the SCR and aSCR as well, but sadly, those aren't on the current to-do.
However, with the current lowering of damage, the weapon should have been made more available and maybe given a 2nd round in the clip, but it wouldn't be something I would, personally complain about and say the weapon is dead / no longer useful in any situation (as some have said in here). With damage mods and prof, and the ultra high head shot modifier, it is still a one shot weapon... just don't expect it to come from a body shot.
As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
1
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Posted - 2015.05.26 21:43:00 -
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Well I got to use it once, as someone who generally dislikes snipping in this game it seemed fine by me.
Acquisition is terrible, matchmaking is terrible, your game is still riddled with bugs, you should feel bad.
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Diablo Gamekeeper
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
No Context
278
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Posted - 2015.05.26 21:50:00 -
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And i now delete Dust off of my PS3. The rarest weapon (besides Balac Sniper/SMG) gets nerfed. No reason for the nerf either.
I have DESTROYED CCP Rattati
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tal mrak-thanl
Corrosive Synergy
1
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Posted - 2015.05.26 21:57:00 -
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I'm pretty much at that point myself. That gun has been sitting in my inventory for a month, just waiting for the right map, with the right 'mood', and me in the right frame of mind.
Director - Corrosive Synergy
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demens grimwulff
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
360
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Posted - 2015.05.26 21:58:00 -
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Diablo Gamekeeper wrote:And i now delete Dust off of my PS3. The rarest weapon (besides Balac Sniper/SMG) gets nerfed. No reason for the nerf either.
As owner of some Balac SMGS thanks to the squad cup tournament I can tell you that they are garbage.
Bad comparison.
your rush to delete is absolutely hilarious though
As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
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Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
No Context
765
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Posted - 2015.05.26 22:04:00 -
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Wow, a post brings up the Roden and it's nothing but positive for sniping. No negative posts about snipers?
You'd think thr Roden would inspire more than average hate posts for sniping.
It must be MAGICAL!
The CPM candidate we need, not the one we want. The candidate for the rest of us.
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tal mrak-thanl
Corrosive Synergy
1
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Posted - 2015.05.26 22:06:00 -
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Director - Corrosive Synergy
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Radiant Pancake3
Y.A.M.A.H
No Context
79
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Posted - 2015.05.26 22:10:00 -
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Luckly I am spared this pain of having a "OHK" Sniper nerfed. Why I am spared this pain? Because I have an even greater pain. The Roden Sniper and the Balac Sniper are the Snipers I do not hold in my possession. 
I am the Clown of Ass or am I the Ass of Clown... o.O
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Radiant Pancake3
Y.A.M.A.H
No Context
79
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Posted - 2015.05.26 22:14:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Wow, a post brings up the Roden and it's nothing but positive for sniping. No negative posts about snipers?
You'd think thr Roden would inspire more than average hate posts for sniping.
It must be MAGICAL!
As badly as it you may want to have a negative post about sniping this will not be one. Mainly you see snipers "Redline Snipe" this is why most snipers have a bad name. This is why I only redline snipe if I know there's a tactical side to it. Other than that I snipe in mountains or somewhere not that far but far from A or any other point. If there is a tactical advantage I usually snipe At the edge of the red border. :3  
I am the Clown of Ass or am I the Ass of Clown... o.O
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Knightshade Belladonna
Kentucky Fried Clones
1
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Posted - 2015.05.26 22:18:00 -
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it's the only one where I die at 500m from, so it has that still I guess... or was that nerfed as well? |
Knightshade Belladonna
Kentucky Fried Clones
1
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Posted - 2015.05.26 22:19:00 -
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Diablo Gamekeeper wrote:And i now delete Dust off of my PS3. The rarest weapon (besides Balac Sniper/SMG) gets nerfed. No reason for the nerf either.
lol, bye bye
weak reason to leave, but won't try and stop you |
thehellisgoingon
MONSTER SYNERGY
486
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Posted - 2015.05.26 22:46:00 -
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To everyone that saves these "rare" weapons I lol'd at you. Not with you.
If you used it while it's hot good 4 u.
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MrShooter01
Ustio Mercenary Squadron
1
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Posted - 2015.05.26 23:03:00 -
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Patt MaCrotch wrote:WTF?! This was my "go to" for the homos that sit up with a Forge on a high point and snipe. OHK it was, now it is worthless. I have 5, will sell as soon as we can. Might as well put 4 damage mods on a Thale and have the full clip.
pssst
i'm gonna let you in on a secret
rooftop forge campers can also be killed in one hit with a forge gun
don't tell anyone ok |
Booby Tuesdays
Bad Mother Thukkers
1
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Posted - 2015.05.26 23:09:00 -
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It's funny, I actually used the Rodens for the first time, before I ever even used a Thales. There is zero reason to use a Roden now, lol. It was my go to during FW q-sync stomps.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.05.27 00:31:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:
Now, see, here is where your logic is flawed.
To assume there should be a shining light amongst every weapon tree is wrong... the Roden is still very useful as a one shot weapon, but to assume it has to be flat out better thanks to an ultra-high damage is wrong. The same logic should be applied to the SCR and aSCR as well, but sadly, those aren't on the current to-do.
However, with the current lowering of damage, the weapon should have been made more available and maybe given a 2nd round in the clip, but it wouldn't be something I would, personally complain about and say the weapon is dead / no longer useful in any situation (as some have said in here). With damage mods and prof, and the ultra high head shot modifier, it is still a one shot weapon... just don't expect it to come from a body shot.
What is your source for the ultra high head shot damage modifier?
I thought that Roden counted to the same category as Ishukone and Thale's (the 'baseline' sniper).
Granted, haven't botherd to check the game although I still could the the recordings.
Surely you agree that if even that headshot modifier is the same, then the Thale is 99,5% of times better than Roden now.
(only +0,5% advantage on only very first shot)
Looking at both sides of the coin.
Even Aurum one.
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Genral69 death
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
298
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Posted - 2015.05.27 00:57:00 -
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The roden
When first release, it did 900 damage I was told
When I first used it 550 damage and its sensitivity was alot like the thale's
2 weeks after I used I, nurfed again. Way to sensitive to even get a decent headshot
Maybe a month after that massive damage nurf. It now does 2 more damage than a thale's .
So not only have you nerfed it, you have made it worthless. That's right, a weapon you could only obtain from your experimental lab completely worthless . Infact this gun now has less damage than a charge sniper but with a 3rd of the clip.
So we've go from one shotting medium frames to one shotting logi's (that's if they don't have 1 amor plate on)
As you can tell I'm a little bit pissed off, but yet again they have gone to far. Nerfing a weapon that is very rare in the first place
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.05.27 01:13:00 -
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I have a very dualistic view on this Roden nerf.
Understandable:
- Apparently it was released by accident into live environment. As IWS said, without full testing.
- OHK things are a sensitive issue.
Not understandable (at all)
- There were no complaints
- The nerf is stupendously high, it is virtually same damage as Thale's. Even some benefit (like 25 damage) should've been left.
- The Roden was even before nerf not as good as Thale's. Why?
It was better than Thale's in not-so-wide scenario of OHKing a target which had more HP than Thale can deliver - but not that much HP that Roden couldn't finish him. For example, Roden was nice in killing combat scouts which would start to evade like crazy after 1 hit. But, for most times, when shooting heavies the Thale's was better.
Looking at both sides of the coin.
Even Aurum one.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
19
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Posted - 2015.05.27 02:09:00 -
[46] - Quote
well at least its listed in assets now; no longer bugged there.
CPM 1, Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= ADV HAVs =// Unlocked
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demens grimwulff
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
369
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Posted - 2015.05.27 02:38:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:What is your source for the ultra high head shot damage modifier?
I thought that Roden counted to the same category as Ishukone and Thale's (the 'baseline' sniper).
Granted, haven't botherd to check the game although I still could the the recordings.
Surely you agree that if even that headshot modifier is the same, then the Thale is 99,5% of times better than Roden now.
(only +0,5% advantage on only very first shot)
Testing the weapon; we usually do such things when they come out.
Like I said, I think if you were to actually use it for what it is needed for, it is still useful. I don't think this is the "omfg CCP nerf hammer to strong?!?!?!?!" moment that everyone is making it out to be.
As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
7
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Posted - 2015.05.27 04:04:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:Joel II X wrote:
1) I meant difficult, not impossible.
2) there's nothing a Thale's can't do better than a Rodens now, which is what I was emphasizing.
For IWS, no. Bandaid for what exactly? If it broke, don't fix it.
Now, see, here is where your logic is flawed. To assume there should be a shining light amongst every weapon tree is wrong... the Roden is still very useful as a one shot weapon, but to assume it has to be flat out better thanks to an ultra-high damage is wrong. The same logic should be applied to the SCR and aSCR as well, but sadly, those aren't on the current to-do. However, with the current lowering of damage, the weapon should have been made more available and maybe given a 2nd round in the clip, but it wouldn't be something I would, personally complain about and say the weapon is dead / no longer useful in any situation (as some have said in here). With damage mods and prof, and the ultra high head shot modifier, it is still a one shot weapon... just don't expect it to come from a body shot.
Except, it wasn't BETTER. It was DIFFERENT.
It was better at dealing raw damage in a single hit, but you're not going to kill a Sentinel with it unless it was a headshot.
The Thale's was (and now is) better at killing tanked up targets because it was able to deal damage faster because it didn't have to reload after every shot.
Also, if you have it a second shot, not only would it still be useless compared to a Thale's (again because similar damage and lol 4 shots more per reload), but you would take out its originality. It was supposed to be a high risk, high reward sniper (miss a shot or not killing them instantly usually meant they would get away). This is why it was rare.
Let me say this one more time, so that you understand....
Roden is now very close in damage difference to a Thale's per shot, with 4 less shots per clip. Anything a Roden can do, a Thale's, Charge, or even a tactical can do better.
Recon? Choose any sniper.
Assassination and point defence? Thale's.
Popping uplinks? Any sniper, really.
Those are the only things viable for a Sniper, and literally almost every other sniper rifle in the game can outperform the once lethal, original Sniper Rifle. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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demens grimwulff wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:What is your source for the ultra high head shot damage modifier?
I thought that Roden counted to the same category as Ishukone and Thale's (the 'baseline' sniper).
Granted, haven't botherd to check the game although I still could the the recordings.
Testing the weapon; we usually do such things when they come out. Like I said, I think if you were to actually use it for what it is needed for, it is still useful. I don't think this is the "omfg CCP nerf hammer to strong?!?!?!?!" moment that everyone is making it out to be.
While testing the weapon - I usually document everything and are able to present facts.
According to video evidence on Warlords 1.1 hotfix:
Thale's Sniper Rifle has a headshot modifier of 286%.
http://oi61.tinypic.com/69m4g5.jpg
Roden Sniper Rifle has a headshot modifier of 286%
http://oi61.tinypic.com/f3dd20.jpg
Also, I made a quick test to show that the Warlods 1.1.2 Roden has still the same modifier as in 1.1 - it was NOT buffed.
http://oi60.tinypic.com/29olqq1.jpg
Looking at both sides of the coin.
Even Aurum one.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.05.27 14:10:00 -
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So, as the headshot modifier's are the same we all can agree that Roden has no benefits to Thale's.
Assuming no one considers extra +0,5% damage a valid exchange for being a single shot only weapon.
Anyone thinking so, please do raise your hand and tell us under your own name how much you like making that trade.
Looking at both sides of the coin.
Even Aurum one.
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BEAST ESD1
Y.A.M.A.H
No Context
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Posted - 2015.05.27 14:47:00 -
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yea I was willing to pay 10 mil for one but not now thanks CCP you save me some ISK
I once stop a microwave on zero.
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BEAST ESD1
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No Context
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Posted - 2015.05.27 14:56:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:The nerf was too drastic. It will go to 425-450 in the next hotfix. Spread the news.
I once stop a microwave on zero.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.05.27 15:19:00 -
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BEAST ESD1 wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:The nerf was too drastic. It will go to 425-450 in the next hotfix. Spread the news.
yeah that is cool.
(source for those who did not see https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2792562#post2792562)
Looking at both sides of the coin.
Even Aurum one.
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Reallusion GrimSleeper
Need Permission to Die LLC
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Posted - 2015.07.09 03:12:00 -
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Just give the Roden a 500x headshot modifier OR make it shoot 3 bullets (showing 3 lines at same time would be an awesome effect by the way)
Problem solved.
I still like my idea for an EMP sniper rifle though.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=204258&find=unread
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Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.09 03:18:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:There was never a proper pass done on the roden I fear this is just a bandaid until we have time to address it directly. Why did you think it needed addressing at all? Is the game flooded with Roden sniper rifles? Thank you Council of wedontevenPlaythegaMe
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DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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tal mrak-thanl wrote:Goddamit. I never got to use the one I've got. I hate dust so much right now.
Yes, yes... Feel the hatred, let it fuel you.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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