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demens grimwulff
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Posted - 2015.05.26 18:56:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Jack Boost wrote:OHK is ... still OHK.
But you can't AV now :P 375 isn't enough to OHK anything except EWAR scouts and militia mediums. The damage and having one shot was the thing that made it shine, and now, it's gone. GG, you made a good sniper rifle useless.
Does it still have the higher than normal headshot modifier? If so, learn to head shot... also, damage mods. You're a sniper, you won't need shields.
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Posted - 2015.05.26 19:16:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:
Because getting headshots on a moving target on a game that has enough frames per second to count on your hands is easy.
Why use the Roden now when you have a Thale's?
Honestly, some of the snipers I play with, those that do it fervently, can get headshots on moving targets. Albeit, maybe 10-20% of the time, but enough to matter and bring up the point (i.e. above background noise). As well, snipers, to be useful to a team, do a couple of tasks
1) point control (target is stationary; if a scout, a damage mod or two will 1 shot them regardless of placement)
2) lay of the land information and troop maneuvers (damage not necessary here, but zoom helps)
3) help remove enemies from the battlefield during large pushes... you can do this by killing, or what might be a solely unique idea that you're missing, damaging one or two of them enough that your assaults can easily kill them, stagger the push so that less filter in at once giving the assaults an easier time, or causing them to partially halt the push and retreat
I still see the use for the Rodens.
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Posted - 2015.05.26 19:20:00 -
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Patt MaCrotch wrote:WTF?! This was my "go to" for the homos that sit up with a Forge on a high point and snipe. OHK it was, now it is worthless. I have 5, will sell as soon as we can. Might as well put 4 damage mods on a Thale and have the full clip.
Depending on the way damage mods and damage increases (wb and prof) are applied, the Rodens can still do over 2100 damage in one shot to said heavies... still highly valuable
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Posted - 2015.05.26 21:31:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:
1) I meant difficult, not impossible.
2) there's nothing a Thale's can't do better than a Rodens now, which is what I was emphasizing.
For IWS, no. Bandaid for what exactly? If it broke, don't fix it.
Now, see, here is where your logic is flawed.
To assume there should be a shining light amongst every weapon tree is wrong... the Roden is still very useful as a one shot weapon, but to assume it has to be flat out better thanks to an ultra-high damage is wrong. The same logic should be applied to the SCR and aSCR as well, but sadly, those aren't on the current to-do.
However, with the current lowering of damage, the weapon should have been made more available and maybe given a 2nd round in the clip, but it wouldn't be something I would, personally complain about and say the weapon is dead / no longer useful in any situation (as some have said in here). With damage mods and prof, and the ultra high head shot modifier, it is still a one shot weapon... just don't expect it to come from a body shot.
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Posted - 2015.05.26 21:58:00 -
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Diablo Gamekeeper wrote:And i now delete Dust off of my PS3. The rarest weapon (besides Balac Sniper/SMG) gets nerfed. No reason for the nerf either.
As owner of some Balac SMGS thanks to the squad cup tournament I can tell you that they are garbage.
Bad comparison.
your rush to delete is absolutely hilarious though
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Posted - 2015.05.27 02:38:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:What is your source for the ultra high head shot damage modifier?
I thought that Roden counted to the same category as Ishukone and Thale's (the 'baseline' sniper).
Granted, haven't botherd to check the game although I still could the the recordings.
Surely you agree that if even that headshot modifier is the same, then the Thale is 99,5% of times better than Roden now.
(only +0,5% advantage on only very first shot)
Testing the weapon; we usually do such things when they come out.
Like I said, I think if you were to actually use it for what it is needed for, it is still useful. I don't think this is the "omfg CCP nerf hammer to strong?!?!?!?!" moment that everyone is making it out to be.
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