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Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 442	Posted - 2015.05.19 22:05:00 - [1] - Quote You what it's missing? A fear factor. Heavies are known to tank and shred you with hmgs or one hit your lav and wipe you out Assaults are known for quickly and effectively taking out targets Scouts are known for their deadly knives and shotguns. Logis- aren't really fighters but we all hate jumpy mass drivers. Commandos? Aside from the minmatar and gallente with good av, they suck, can't stack as much hp as assaults, can't rep as quick, can't run as fast, can't hack as fast, and kill as fast, any jump as high, They suck and have really no fear factor. Plus they are SUPER SQUISHY. So what can be done about them? Idk. That's up for everyone to decide. Keep in mind that the main focus would be caldar and amarr commandos as the min/gal are effective at av 48th Special Operations Force Twitter-@48SOF Weekly YES OR NO
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 7	Posted - 2015.05.19 22:08:00 - [2] - Quote More stamina and stamina regen, more main tank (Caldari shield regen / gallente armour regen / Minmatar speed? / Amarr armor hp). Maybe increase the 2% per level of damage to 3%? This way, Assaults have no chance of catching up to a commando xk.0
gthing SUKANIGADK ITAL1AN MAF1A 3	Posted - 2015.05.19 22:10:00 - [3] - Quote More speed/reps.
P14GU3 UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E 1	Posted - 2015.05.19 22:17:00 - [4] - Quote More speed is a must with those hitboxes. I feel like each race could use a buff to its respective tank as well, just slightly though. Gal would get more armor regen, amarr more base armor, cal more base shield and min should get shield regen as I don't like buffing its speed twice. The alternative to giving them more tank is an extra slot. Do two of these three things and I think commandos will be a real threat and start to move out of, or at least really shine at support. 'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
tal mrak-thanl Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1	Posted - 2015.05.19 22:23:00 - [5] - Quote So... You want commandos to be OP AF? Kden. "Flush them out? We sure will mate, flush em down the toilet like the turds they are."-- Eros Adonai, pushing the SD.
Melchiah ARANeAE The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 605	Posted - 2015.05.19 22:45:00 - [6] - Quote Give The Calmando a bonus to Explosives as well (as they arguably use missiles more than the Minmatar) and add a light laser AV weapon. Now all commandos are very versatile and can take on both infantry and vehicles effectively with the same fit. We want cake and tea.
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 445	Posted - 2015.05.19 22:46:00 - [7] - Quote tal mrak-thanl wrote: So... You want commandos to be OP AF? Kden. Op? I can wipe 3 of them in a row with only assault scrambler pistols. They suck. And I kinda regret ever skilling into them 48th Special Operations Force Twitter-@48SOF Weekly YES OR NO
Golden Day Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1	Posted - 2015.05.19 22:48:00 - [8] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: tal mrak-thanl wrote: So... You want commandos to be OP AF? Kden. Op? I can wipe 3 of them in a row with only assault scrambler pistols. They suck. And I kinda regret ever skilling into them If you can do that it means you were problay facing unskilled commando players. Im just a glorified blueberry
Oswald Rehnquist 1	Posted - 2015.05.19 23:01:00 - [9] - Quote Maybe this isn't optimal or preferred by the community but... Cloaks + Low profile sigs + second equipment slot Make it a fat scout that harasses at a distance. Below 28 dB
Cody Sietz Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 4	Posted - 2015.05.19 23:16:00 - [10] - Quote You give up way to much for some extra damage and ehp. The base vs most other suits are kind of awful. Slow, low stamina, poor self healing factor and absolutely no eWar and with no chance of changing it due to low slot count. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire

Kierkegaard Soren Eridani Light Horse Battalion 815	Posted - 2015.05.19 23:21:00 - [11] - Quote 1) Speed. Tank is second highest in the game. It's the hitbox and the sluggishness that kills you. 2) A third suit bonus. People seem to forget that it's a specialist suit, in the same tier as assaults, sentinels and scouts, and whilst those suits enjoy three bonuses (typically, one fitting and two unique), the commando is left with just two. An EWAR themed bonus would be helpful. 3) Speaking of which, EWAR. Worst in the game, excluding sentinels, who don't really need it; if they turn a corner and it's full of reds, well...HMG, right? On the other hand, commandos can be seen by everyone and can see nothing, save a sentinel at close range. Which is not optimal to say the least. And they can't sacrifice slots for EWAR modules because they have the lowest slot count in the game. 4) Which they need for reps and biotic so. Specifically, cardiacs. The commando is at its best when it's used as a marauder that flanks, harasses enemy positions and targets vehicles. Speed is needed, but so too is stamina. They do need to be able to move around the battlefield for sustained periods of time so that they can bring their weapon load outs to the right fight. Stamina regen on commandos is shockingly bad. 5) I do really like the cloak idea. I don't think it should be a scout-only piece of equipment. Giving them an extra equipment slot and the third bonus as a cloak fitting bonus would make the commando a unique suit to play with. Strategic movement, surprise attacks with AV load outs, and the opportunity to make good on that massive melee strike? Yes please. Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing."
The Eristic Dust 90210 979	Posted - 2015.05.19 23:57:00 - [12] - Quote Some combo of: + a bit of speed + a large amount of stamina & stamina regen + much improved scan precision and THE HIGHEST scan radius + noticeably more main tank regen + second equipment + maybe one slot Cloak is an interesting one, too, but they're mostly too slow and scannable to use it effectively as they are. Would be excellent for repositioning as a Calmando, though. Reality is the original Rorschach. Verily! So much for all that.
tal mrak-thanl Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1	Posted - 2015.05.20 00:00:00 - [13] - Quote It's almost as if yall are forgetting that commandos carry two light weapons. Any buff to the commando will make it op as hell. Now don't get me wrong, I'm totally onboard for making commandos op, I run em all the time :) "Flush them out? We sure will mate, flush em down the toilet like the turds they are."-- Eros Adonai, pushing the SD.
Kierkegaard Soren Eridani Light Horse Battalion 817	Posted - 2015.05.20 00:12:00 - [14] - Quote You can only use one gun at a time, though. And for that, the commando loses a grenade, which are incredibly useful for all sorts of reasons I'm sure you're aware of. Two Lights gives the commando enhanced tactical flexibility. It does not give it more firepower. Again, only one gun at a time can be used, and in a firefight you have to factor in more than just your gun; how fast and manoeuvrable are you? How easy are you to hit? How much of a hit can you take? And how fast can you repair after? In all but the HP aspect, the commando is found severely lacking. Against average opponents it can shine, but what suit can't? Throw it a proto min assault, however, and it will be melted in a fraction of a second, and the assault will have barely been scratched. Now, to be fair, it's not an assault suit, so it shouldn't perform well in the assault role, but still: it's not great at killing stuff. The best commandos I've seen are those that are rocking laser rifles (to make up for the lack of speed and to keep nimbler suits at bay) and dedicated AV platforms, mostly minmandos, because hey guess what - they're the quickest commando and they get to rock combat rifles and swarms. Delicious. It's the only one that works really well. The rest are pretty poor. And it's mainly due to the fact that it's a poorly conceived idea and a badly executed suit design. If you want to fix the commando just rip it all up and start again from scratch. Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing."
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 1	Posted - 2015.05.20 00:20:00 - [15] - Quote Remove commandos, free up resources, give assaults 2 light weapon slots, and their respective commando bonuses. Fixed.
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 1	Posted - 2015.05.20 00:39:00 - [16] - Quote tal mrak-thanl wrote: It's almost as if yall are forgetting that commandos carry two light weapons. Any buff to the commando will make it op as hell. Now don't get me wrong, I'm totally onboard for making commandos op, I run em all the time :) The only reason you think that is because you run MinComs...which aren't OP: Combat Rifles are, however. Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
Sennina Sovereign ROGUE RELICS 67	Posted - 2015.05.20 00:52:00 - [17] - Quote From my experience with that Calmando, halve its recharge delay and depleted recharge delay. RECHARGE DELAY OLD: 8 seconds; NEW: 4 seconds DEPLETED RECHARGE DELAY OLD: 6 seconds; NEW: 3 seconds Also can we give it a shield rep of 40 hp. That'd be nice.
Thokk Nightshade Montana Militia 836	Posted - 2015.05.20 01:01:00 - [18] - Quote It is a heavy suit. Let it use heavy weapons. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
Thokk Nightshade Montana Militia 836	Posted - 2015.05.20 01:02:00 - [19] - Quote Sennina Sovereign wrote: From my experience with that Calmando, halve its recharge delay and depleted recharge delay. RECHARGE DELAY OLD: 8 seconds; NEW: 4 seconds DEPLETED RECHARGE DELAY OLD: 6 seconds; NEW: 3 seconds Also can we give it a shield rep of 40 hp. That'd be nice. This. So much yes to this. Agree 100% Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 449	Posted - 2015.05.20 01:23:00 - [20] - Quote tal mrak-thanl wrote: It's almost as if yall are forgetting that commandos carry two light weapons. Any buff to the commando will make it op as hell. Now don't get me wrong, I'm totally onboard for making commandos op, I run em all the time :) You realize the only way you could possible make them op that way would be for the gallente and minmatar to have a better option than av right? The amarr only hav 3 weapons, of which all are ....meh.... On commandos. And calmandos are mostly used for sniping. 48th Special Operations Force Twitter-@48SOF Weekly YES OR NO

GeorgeN76 Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 47	Posted - 2015.05.20 01:24:00 - [21] - Quote They def need more speed & stamina Scouts and Swarms
Scheneighnay McBob And the ButtPirates 6	Posted - 2015.05.20 01:26:00 - [22] - Quote Assaults and logis having a fear factor? ***** please. Commandos have nasty all-around damage. If the guns don't get you, the melee will. Some details can be ignored
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 449	Posted - 2015.05.20 01:37:00 - [23] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Assaults and logis having a fear factor? ***** please. Commandos have nasty all-around damage. If the guns don't get you, the melee will. Melee on a commando? Never heard of it. My dual scrambler pistols always kill them before they can even reload or get near me. * pulls out scrambler pistol and headshot a him, then waste to mags of ammo destroying the commando and laughing at his crappy useless dropsuit. 48th Special Operations Force Twitter-@48SOF Weekly YES OR NO
Kierkegaard Soren Eridani Light Horse Battalion 822	Posted - 2015.05.20 01:43:00 - [24] - Quote If you see the commando coming, then it's just too easy to step away and plug that fat head of his full of holes. Give them a cloak, however, and that haymaker suddenly becomes a high risk/high reward weapon in the commandos arsenal. They'd be the other side of the coin to the scout role; both are capable of moving into positions that other suits can't, but whereas the scout attacks quickly with burst alpha damage before withdrawing in haste, the commando unleashes a punishing stream of damage from a flanking position, or blaps an entrenched tank with a shot to its weaker rear plating, and isn't afraid to take some return fire in the process. A thinking man's assault suit, if you will. Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing."
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 1	Posted - 2015.05.20 01:57:00 - [25] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: It is a heavy suit. Let it use heavy weapons. I suggested this months ago and there was much hate. "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 7	Posted - 2015.05.20 02:29:00 - [26] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: It is a heavy suit. Let it use heavy weapons. I suggested this months ago and there was much hate. Dual Heavy Weapons? Assault HMG // Assault Forge Gun Combo. Lol
Vesta Opalus Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 725	Posted - 2015.05.20 02:41:00 - [27] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: You what it's missing? A fear factor. Heavies are known to tank and shred you with hmgs or one hit your lav and wipe you out Assaults are known for quickly and effectively taking out targets Scouts are known for their deadly knives and shotguns. Logis- aren't really fighters but we all hate jumpy mass drivers. Commandos? Aside from the minmatar and gallente with good av, they suck, can't stack as much hp as assaults, can't rep as quick, can't run as fast, can't hack as fast, and kill as fast, any jump as high, They suck and have really no fear factor. Plus they are SUPER SQUISHY. So what can be done about them? Idk. That's up for everyone to decide. Keep in mind that the main focus would be caldar and amarr commandos as the min/gal are effective at av WHAT IF we got rid of commandos, gave assaults 2 light weapons, took away those side arms, and made them the true assault/suppressors? And to balance them out against other dropsuits, take away the damage bonus. Give scouts/heavies a bonus to sidearms to make those counter the assaults light weapons? Look at it like this Assault- 2 light small bonus to both weapons. 1.racial bonus Scout- 1 light- 1 side arm. Side arm damage bonus (to counter second light weapons of assaults Heavy- 1 heavy, change their side arm to a light weapon or keep side arm of you feel it will be op. If you do give heavy light, give scout a second side arm. The last and final option would be to remove them. They are all effective at AV, the swarm bonus isnt THAT big of a deal. The problem is they are slow, fat, scannable, and with low HP, often they are run with AV or a sniper rifle alternate light weapon so you also have no "sidearm" when in ~half the fits commandos are used for. Im not sure how I would fix these suits, giving them all significantly better regen would be a good first step, all kinds of regen. Native armor reps, some decent shield regen (20-40 shp/s or so for all of them depending on which suit), and much quicker regen delays. The Cal Commando in particular needs a ~1-3 second depleted delay like the cal sentinel/scout.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 9	Posted - 2015.05.20 03:04:00 - [28] - Quote Checkout their usage rates: http://dust.thang.dk/market_historycategory.php Recommendation: +1 Low Slot (all races, all tiers) + PG/CPU Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
Francois Sanchez Prima Gallicus 441	Posted - 2015.05.20 10:45:00 - [29] - Quote What they need is extra survivability. They're fine in terms of damage and tactical role, the problem is simply how easy they are to kill. Survivability comes from two things : - The ability to avoid trouble - The ability to get out of trouble Commandos are the suckiest of all suits at both (even logis are better). They should get a buff in each of these categories. The first one can be achieved by an ewar buff, they need to be stealthier and have at least the scan precision of assaults. For the second one, a slight speed buff and a regen buff should be enough. Having the sentinel slot layout (so a fifth module) would also be justified. Sentinel has 1 heavy weapon and one sidearm, commando two light weapons. Fair Sentinel has grenades, commandos has equipment. Fair Sentinel has 5 modules, commandos 4. Why?
Stormblade Green KnightKiller's inc. 87	Posted - 2015.05.20 11:59:00 - [30] - Quote Okay a little info...... I love heavy class suits..... commando being one of the heavies I run......I have skilled into every weapon and every suit.... even though I go on sprees using commandos..... I gave up on the amarr commando and Caldari..... i couldn't find an effective fit for the amarr. The Caldari just had so little pg..... Overall the United problem with them is their slow speed,shield regain (for the minmitar and especially Caldari), Ewar is useless on them, and just the inability to really frontline using any of them. One might say... I'm very skilled... yet I'm his apprentice... So what does that say about my mentor?

Thokk Nightshade Montana Militia 838	Posted - 2015.05.20 13:32:00 - [31] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: It is a heavy suit. Let it use heavy weapons. I suggested this months ago and there was much hate. Dual Heavy Weapons? Assault HMG // Assault Forge Gun Combo. Lol Oh lord would that be awesome. but no, I was thinking allow them to have 1 heavy and 1 light slot. This gives literally every combo in the game possible OTHER than HMG/ Forge gun. Calmando with a forge gun / rail rifle? Yes please. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
cammando 007 Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 28	Posted - 2015.05.20 13:43:00 - [32] - Quote give two light weapon choices to Assault Assault SCr and Assault CR <--- done theres no need for a heavy or a scout role
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 123	Posted - 2015.05.20 13:43:00 - [33] - Quote OOOOOO Cloak with me rail riffle and shot gun CEO of LulKlz/ chat channel LulKlz, code 0000 <--- numbers
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 452	Posted - 2015.05.20 13:57:00 - [34] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: Joel II X wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: It is a heavy suit. Let it use heavy weapons. I suggested this months ago and there was much hate. Dual Heavy Weapons? Assault HMG // Assault Forge Gun Combo. Lol Oh lord would that be awesome. but no, I was thinking allow them to have 1 heavy and 1 light slot. This gives literally every combo in the game possible OTHER than HMG/ Forge gun. Calmando with a forge gun / rail rifle? Yes please. Then what would be the purpose of sentinels if commandos would beat them at their own game? 48th Special Operations Force Twitter-@48SOF Weekly YES OR NO
Ghost Steps G0DS AM0NG MEN New Eden's Heros 15	Posted - 2015.05.20 14:20:00 - [35] - Quote Take the basic heavy frames stats and set them the commando bonus and modules, thats it. Caldari scout bonus sucks but i like to honor my name.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 10	Posted - 2015.05.20 15:05:00 - [36] - Quote The speed of the commandos isn't up to par for the health they have. Up the hp value or speed. Not both at the same time however Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 508	Posted - 2015.05.20 15:14:00 - [37] - Quote Golden Day wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: tal mrak-thanl wrote: So... You want commandos to be OP AF? Kden. Op? I can wipe 3 of them in a row with only assault scrambler pistols. They suck. And I kinda regret ever skilling into them If you can do that it means you were problay facing unskilled commando players. Oh yeah totally. Commandos are usually very deadly, give them to a highly skilled player then you wouldn't have time to blink. Click me
Thokk Nightshade Montana Militia 839	Posted - 2015.05.20 17:41:00 - [38] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: Joel II X wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: It is a heavy suit. Let it use heavy weapons. I suggested this months ago and there was much hate. Dual Heavy Weapons? Assault HMG // Assault Forge Gun Combo. Lol Oh lord would that be awesome. but no, I was thinking allow them to have 1 heavy and 1 light slot. This gives literally every combo in the game possible OTHER than HMG/ Forge gun. Calmando with a forge gun / rail rifle? Yes please. Then what would be the purpose of sentinels if commandos would beat them at their own game? They would still have less HP, no splash damage bonus, etc. In a 1 v 1 with a Commando and Sentinel, at HMG range the Sentinel should beat the commando every time with all other things being equal (weapons, gun game, etc.) A commando isn't going to have 1400 + HP stacked on. The major thing this does is give the commando absolute versatility to make up for its deficiencies in ther areas (speed, shield regen, etc). Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
Vesta Opalus Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 728	Posted - 2015.05.20 17:52:00 - [39] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: They would still have less HP, no splash damage bonus, etc. In a 1 v 1 with a Commando and Sentinel, at HMG range the Sentinel should beat the commando every time with all other things being equal (weapons, gun game, etc.) A commando isn't going to have 1400 + HP stacked on. The major thing this does is give the commando absolute versatility to make up for its deficiencies in ther areas (speed, shield regen, etc). Dont forget grenades, in point defense or point assault grenades are A Big Deal
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.05.20 17:59:00 - [40] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: You realize the only way you could possible make them op that way would be for the gallente and minmatar to have a better option than av right? Seriously, stop it with the "Commando only good for carrying AV" bullshit... Only scrubs carry AV on a commando. What's that, Minmando can switch from combat rifle to mass driver... It's surprisingly more effective than your puny flaylock. Galmando can defend itself while sniping with a nice rifle, or get in on the action with a shotgun for those pesky scouts. Calmando don't care if you didn't drop to the first rifle round, they got a spare assault rail rifle for when you get close. There are a lot of useful light weapon combos that can help you screw over the other team, when they think they've got the upper hand... Use your imagination. Commando could use an extra slot, maybe 2... Then it can keep up with the other suits and do what it does best, which just happens to be everything.

Magnus Belmont Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.05.20 18:04:00 - [41] - Quote Play the reps and hit from a distance. Use the fact that you have two light weapons to run a continuous stream of bullets. I noticed I do better when I put two assault weapons on them. Onc for close & mid range, the other for mid & long range. True they are squishy, but their sustained damage output is pretty nice.
Fetti Ametat Security Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.05.20 18:11:00 - [42] - Quote The Commandos was built in a time where SP was very rare(190k SP per week). the commando is a good allrounder for new players. but since the SP reward was build up its unlikely useless. for a AV they stand the hole time on a roof with a forge gunner besides him its nice to refresh the ammo. the commands are not bad, but the most people use them wrong or expect to much from that suit. P.S. if the grammar f**** you up...learn german. quiek
KAKERLAKE 1990 BLACK-GUARD E.B.O.L.A. 0	Posted - 2015.05.20 18:17:00 - [43] - Quote besides a full skilled out commando made 30-40% extra dmg for a special type of weapons. thats murderously! P.S. If the grammar f** you up...learn german! quiek
QRT30 Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN 93	Posted - 2015.05.20 18:48:00 - [44] - Quote I have 14 proto suits but last month's I play mostly only commandos. If do you use them right they are very dangerous. Any buff will be apriciate. It's not the suit for newbe you have to max a lot of skills to be really competive with assaults or heavy. Only high alfa damage can safe your ass :) QRT30 - open beta vet with over 90 mln Sp or close beta newbie at Planetside 2 QRT300 - Amarr
Thokk Nightshade Montana Militia 840	Posted - 2015.05.20 20:18:00 - [45] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: They would still have less HP, no splash damage bonus, etc. In a 1 v 1 with a Commando and Sentinel, at HMG range the Sentinel should beat the commando every time with all other things being equal (weapons, gun game, etc.) A commando isn't going to have 1400 + HP stacked on. The major thing this does is give the commando absolute versatility to make up for its deficiencies in ther areas (speed, shield regen, etc). Dont forget grenades, in point defense or point assault grenades are A Big Deal I know I was forgrtting something. Thanks! Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
Thokk Nightshade Montana Militia 840	Posted - 2015.05.20 21:39:00 - [46] - Quote KAKERLAKE 1990 wrote: besides a full skilled out commando made 30-40% extra dmg for a special type of weapons. thats murderously! Please explain to me how you get 30-40%. I must be doing something wrong. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
Francois Sanchez Prima Gallicus 443	Posted - 2015.05.20 21:56:00 - [47] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: KAKERLAKE 1990 wrote: besides a full skilled out commando made 30-40% extra dmg for a special type of weapons. thats murderously! Please explain to me how you get 30-40%. I must be doing something wrong. I think he's comparing that to the base rifle without any skill whereas the commandos has his max bonus, proficiency 5 and damage mods. That's a wrong way to see the damage bonus as first the proficiency isn't useful all the time, and moreover any other suit can have proficiency maxed out too.
Thokk Nightshade Montana Militia 840	Posted - 2015.05.20 22:23:00 - [48] - Quote Francois Sanchez wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: KAKERLAKE 1990 wrote: besides a full skilled out commando made 30-40% extra dmg for a special type of weapons. thats murderously! Please explain to me how you get 30-40%. I must be doing something wrong. I think he's comparing that to the base rifle without any skill whereas the commandos has his max bonus, proficiency 5 and damage mods. That's a wrong way to see the damage bonus as first the proficiency isn't useful all the time, and moreover any other suit can have proficiency maxed out too. I was thinking that was his thought process. Suit proficiency + weapon proficiency + complex damage mods. The suit proficiency is the only thing that can't be replicated with any other suit. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
Russel Mendoza 7th air cav 127	Posted - 2015.05.20 23:42:00 - [49] - Quote They should up the damage bonus to 3 or even 5 for the fear factor. If thats not possible. then raise the scan on them. its suppose to suppress enemy. Cant suppress them if you cant see them coming. you get shot at the back coz your blind as a bat. They should also have unique anti av weapons for each race. gallente - plasma cannon minmatar - anti-av md caldari - swarm launcher amarr - lazer cannon Commando should be able to deal with infantry and vehicle alike. imho. I'm the biggest Dustard in the universe!!! Summoning technique "Gorgon no jutsu" Vehicle request accepted.
Flyingconejo Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1	Posted - 2015.05.21 00:00:00 - [50] - Quote Commandos were doomed the moment CCP decided they had to be heavy suits. Commandos should have been light suits, following the Black Eagle template.

Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 515	Posted - 2015.05.21 12:27:00 - [51] - Quote Flyingconejo wrote: Commandos were doomed the moment CCP decided they had to be heavy suits. Commandos should have been light suits, following the Black Eagle template. That makes even less sense. How do you supress enemies if you die from being farted on by a heavy Click me
KAKERLAKE 1990 BLACK-GUARD E.B.O.L.A. 1	Posted - 2015.05.21 17:34:00 - [52] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: Francois Sanchez wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: KAKERLAKE 1990 wrote: besides a full skilled out commando made 30-40% extra dmg for a special type of weapons. thats murderously! Please explain to me how you get 30-40%. I must be doing something wrong. I think he's comparing that to the base rifle without any skill whereas the commandos has his max bonus, proficiency 5 and damage mods. That's a wrong way to see the damage bonus as first the proficiency isn't useful all the time, and moreover any other suit can have proficiency maxed out too. I was thinking that was his thought process. Suit proficiency + weapon proficiency + complex damage mods. The suit proficiency is the only thing that can't be replicated with any other suit. yes, thats correct. play the amarr commando for example, even the standard could have 32% extra dmg for laser or scr. i think thats a lot. and you have even 600hp armor 250 shield. show me a standard suit without fitting that could handle this(besides heavys)... P.S. If the grammar skcuf you up...learn german! quiek


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