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saxonmish
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
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Posted - 2015.05.10 17:48:00 -
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Your a bi*ch.
SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
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Twelve Guage
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
581
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Posted - 2015.05.10 17:51:00 -
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I give your thread a 0 out of 10 However I laugh out loud so you can add a one to that score.
Sandwich maker LVL. 5
You've been like by Twelve Gauge = her grabbing your @$$.
My like button is back. C:<
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Droopy Bawlz
myrtle beach leap frogz
12
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Posted - 2015.05.10 17:51:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Your a bi*ch.
LOL JAJAJAJAJAJAJAAJAJAJ
Says the guy camping CRU's and posting youtube videos about it.
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Crimson ShieId
Horizons' Edge No Context
2597
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Posted - 2015.05.10 17:52:00 -
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Wouldn't mind the things so much if they didn't make passive scans completely irrelevant. Why Rattati thought it was a good idea to give a single piece of equipment the ability to scan the enemy team for your entire team, I'll never know.
My Plasma Cannon says "Hello" to your face~
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saxonmish
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1125
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Posted - 2015.05.10 17:53:00 -
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Droopy Bawlz wrote:saxonmish wrote:Your a bi*ch. LOL JAJAJAJAJAJAJAAJAJAJ Says the guy camping CRU's and posting youtube videos about it. GTFO
Hey man if they keep spawning im going to keep killing them
SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
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saxonmish
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1125
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Posted - 2015.05.10 17:54:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:Wouldn't mind the things so much if they didn't make passive scans completely irrelevant. Why Rattati thought it was a good idea to give a single piece of equipment the ability to scan the enemy team for your entire team, I'll never know.
theres nothing worse running solo vs a full pro squad and getting permascanned
SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
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Droopy Bawlz
myrtle beach leap frogz
12
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Posted - 2015.05.10 17:57:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Droopy Bawlz wrote:saxonmish wrote:Your a bi*ch. LOL JAJAJAJAJAJAJAAJAJAJ Says the guy camping CRU's and posting youtube videos about it. GTFO Hey man if they keep spawning im going to keep killing them
That is the fun part about running a Proto gall logi with 2 proto scanners at all times. Know where bishes like you are at.
AMIRITE? JAJAJAJAJAJA
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Yeeeuuuupppp
No Context
1035
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Posted - 2015.05.10 17:57:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Your a bi*ch. Fight me about it
Sheeba Sheeba
PSN: GMANCASH
"I played Dust so long i grew a f--king afro"
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saxonmish
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1125
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Posted - 2015.05.10 17:59:00 -
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Droopy Bawlz wrote:saxonmish wrote:Droopy Bawlz wrote:saxonmish wrote:Your a bi*ch. LOL JAJAJAJAJAJAJAAJAJAJ Says the guy camping CRU's and posting youtube videos about it. GTFO Hey man if they keep spawning im going to keep killing them That is the fun part about running a Proto gall logi with 2 proto scanners at all times. Know where bishes like you are at. AMIRITE? JAJAJAJAJAJA
but you already know where im at, just follow the dead bodies
SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
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Forced Death
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
803
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Posted - 2015.05.10 17:59:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Wouldn't mind the things so much if they didn't make passive scans completely irrelevant. Why Rattati thought it was a good idea to give a single piece of equipment the ability to scan the enemy team for your entire team, I'll never know. theres nothing worse running solo vs a full pro squad and getting permascanned yeah. thanks for doing that yesterday with your officer HMG and proto scan squad that permascanned us the entire time
11M SP
Gallente Logistics G/1 Series
Scout M/1 Series Assault M/1 Series
I'm doing something wrong
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
6308
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Posted - 2015.05.10 18:01:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:Wouldn't mind the things so much if they didn't make passive scans completely irrelevant. Why Rattati thought it was a good idea to give a single piece of equipment the ability to scan the enemy team for your entire team, I'll never know. Scanning is a double edged sword basically, on one side you have permanent passive scans and on the other you have partial scans of high precision. Its just one of those things that I like to refer to as "political conversations" it always ends with one side feeling like they got screwed over.
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LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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Vesta Opalus
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
682
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Posted - 2015.05.10 18:01:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Your a bi*ch.
Is this really a message to people using scanning, or is this actually a subtle troll aimed at grammar *****, you be the judge. |
Meisterjager Jagermeister
957
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Posted - 2015.05.10 18:03:00 -
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I prefer the term biotch.
I think I'll create a new character---Scanneronmish.
AKA - StarVenger- Horizons' Edge
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Spec Trinity
Eternal Beings
12
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Posted - 2015.05.10 18:03:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Your a bi*ch.
Where's my bucket..?
+ú+++¦-Å+¦ jø-à-Å-++¦+¦ +¦++ds..
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Regis Blackbird
DUST University Ivy League
857
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Posted - 2015.05.10 18:04:00 -
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I woulnt mind if using an active scanner Increaced your scan profile. You light up the entire enemy team, but by doing so you light up as well. |
Droopy Bawlz
myrtle beach leap frogz
14
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Posted - 2015.05.10 18:04:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Wouldn't mind the things so much if they didn't make passive scans completely irrelevant. Why Rattati thought it was a good idea to give a single piece of equipment the ability to scan the enemy team for your entire team, I'll never know. theres nothing worse running solo vs a full pro squad and getting permascanned
You are such a hypocrite.
How many of your g4y videos did you have multiple logis attached to your azz. repping and scanning.
GTFO here with that. Now it must be karma that you are on the forums QQ'ing about scans after countless videos off you destroying militia and news and stroking your epeen.
If you are that upset,,email Cuse Town333 and he will assist you. |
saxonmish
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1125
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Posted - 2015.05.10 18:05:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Wouldn't mind the things so much if they didn't make passive scans completely irrelevant. Why Rattati thought it was a good idea to give a single piece of equipment the ability to scan the enemy team for your entire team, I'll never know. Scanning is a double edged sword basically, on one side you have permanent passive scans and on the other you have partial scans of high precision. Its just one of those things that I like to refer to as "political conversations" it always ends with one side feeling like they got screwed over.
or you just have 1 gal logi with both types of scanner
SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
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saxonmish
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1125
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Posted - 2015.05.10 18:07:00 -
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Droopy Bawlz wrote:saxonmish wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Wouldn't mind the things so much if they didn't make passive scans completely irrelevant. Why Rattati thought it was a good idea to give a single piece of equipment the ability to scan the enemy team for your entire team, I'll never know. theres nothing worse running solo vs a full pro squad and getting permascanned You are such a hypocrite. How many of your g4y videos did you have multiple logis attached to your azz. repping and scanning. GTFO here with that. Now it must be karma that you are on the forums QQ'ing about scans after countless videos off you destroying militia and news and stroking your epeen. If you are that upset,,email Cuse Town333 and he will assist you.
but scanners are pointless, there is no need for them at all. we have stupidly good passive scans which are good enough.
SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
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DAAAA BEAST
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
1677
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Posted - 2015.05.10 18:14:00 -
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Quick ! Grab the Complex QQ Upgrade , we must fit all the QQ in one thread !
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SLENDER M4N
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
372
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Posted - 2015.05.10 18:17:00 -
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I see no problems with using an active scanner. I use them all the time.
KainNoBueno
I watch hentai for the plot
Part of the Hentai United Club
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Droopy Bawlz
myrtle beach leap frogz
22
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Posted - 2015.05.10 18:20:00 -
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DAAAA BEAST wrote:Quick ! Grab the Complex QQ Upgrade , we must fit all the QQ in one thread !
I think this one is maxed buddy. Need to upgrade to Complex buckets to hold more.
I never thought I would hear such whine from a pubstar (Sax). |
SoTa PoP
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
6832
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Posted - 2015.05.10 18:21:00 -
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I walk in expecting this to be a troll
i walk out realizing he actually means this.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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Forever ETC
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1060
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Posted - 2015.05.10 18:27:00 -
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Haha remember the days of the 360 scans? Then they nerfed them and created 24/7 passive scans. Now those are nerfed too... The QQ will never end.
PIE
Lasers4life
Oh am I part of a cure? Or am I part of the disease?
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Henrietta Unknown
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
1391
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Posted - 2015.05.10 18:27:00 -
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I gave up my scanner and fit precision enhancers on my logis to take advantage of their ridiculous scout abilities atm.
Passive scans on any other class (except Calscout) is screwed atm.
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ROMULUS H3X
research lab
519
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Posted - 2015.05.10 18:31:00 -
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haha, tears....
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
10021
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Posted - 2015.05.10 18:40:00 -
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Can complain all you want but the Gallente Logi is probably one of the most under-powered roles in the game. You don't even get WP rewards for scanning for the entire team so the only thing you really get out of that is FGP (feel good points).
Even still, with the way cooldowns are with those things, you basically have to run all scanners in your equipment slot if you want to maintain awareness on the enemy but that also means you take a gun out of your hand. I really can't stand it when people say that they invalidate passive scans because it really isn't the case - you can shoot while maintaining passive scans. Passive scans are also 360 degrees of coverage, constantly going. There's no cooldowns, angles, or visibility times and you're not having to hold it in your hand for it to work.
-Shrug- Try running dedicated Scan Gal Logi sometime, see how annoying that can get. Also, be sure to record your voice comms whenever you rage out at the fact that even with all skills level 5 and all prototype gear you can't scan down some Scouts that insta-gib you with a shotgun/nova knives.
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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Pocket Rocket Girl
Psygod9
369
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Posted - 2015.05.10 18:42:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Droopy Bawlz wrote:saxonmish wrote:Droopy Bawlz wrote:saxonmish wrote:Your a bi*ch. LOL JAJAJAJAJAJAJAAJAJAJ Says the guy camping CRU's and posting youtube videos about it. GTFO Hey man if they keep spawning im going to keep killing them That is the fun part about running a Proto gall logi with 2 proto scanners at all times. Know where bishes like you are at. AMIRITE? JAJAJAJAJAJA but you already know where im at, just follow the dead bodies
sorry can get into the academy lool
Moo?
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Le Moo?
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
1203
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Posted - 2015.05.10 18:45:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Wouldn't mind the things so much if they didn't make passive scans completely irrelevant. Why Rattati thought it was a good idea to give a single piece of equipment the ability to scan the enemy team for your entire team, I'll never know. theres nothing worse running solo vs a full pro squad and getting permascanned
Let's face it, you quit game after your second death like you always do. Maybe stick to redline sniping from now on |
Crimson ShieId
Horizons' Edge No Context
2598
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Posted - 2015.05.10 18:50:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Wouldn't mind the things so much if they didn't make passive scans completely irrelevant. Why Rattati thought it was a good idea to give a single piece of equipment the ability to scan the enemy team for your entire team, I'll never know. Scanning is a double edged sword basically, on one side you have permanent passive scans and on the other you have partial scans of high precision. Its just one of those things that I like to refer to as "political conversations" it always ends with one side feeling like they got screwed over.
If they hadn't nerfed scans, I'd still be fine with the scanners. Even with team scans, the short scan bursts are acceptable if there's something to compete with it, but sadly, there isn't at the moment. 40m is about the max you're going to get anymore, and for what you have to give up to get that, it just doesn't cut it. If cloaks didn't destroy your scanning ability, it might, but at the moment, there's just no reason to run passives while active scanners rule the fields.
My Plasma Cannon says "Hello" to your face~
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MrShooter01
Ustio Mercenary Squadron
1534
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Posted - 2015.05.10 18:51:00 -
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Sometimes, I like to use a gallogi fit I set up with 3x creodron flux scanners and just sit in a safe spot (the redline even, if the map is small enough) cycling between them while I split my attention on something else outside the game
I get no points for this, but the warm fuzzy feeling I get as the entire enemy team goes slowly insane from "YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED" blocking their screen is reward enough |
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Sergeant Sazu
Mantodea MC
474
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Posted - 2015.05.10 19:09:00 -
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No one wants to admit how powerful it is to watch someone's movement and orientation. All your gungame means so little when there are 3+ guns waiting for you around a corner.
A lot of strategy was taken from the game when active scanners were added.
[56.2m SP, Next skill: Minmatar Sentinel 5]
Veteran Assault - Expert Logibro - Aspiring Minja - Speedy Sentinel
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Crimson ShieId
Horizons' Edge No Context
2599
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Posted - 2015.05.10 19:20:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote:Sometimes, I like to use a gallogi fit I set up with 3x creodron flux scanners and just sit in a safe spot (the redline even, if the map is small enough) cycling between them while I split my attention on something else outside the game
I get no points for this, but the warm fuzzy feeling I get as the entire enemy team goes slowly insane from "YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED" blocking their screen is reward enough
I'm sending you my merc's therapy bill.
My Plasma Cannon says "Hello" to your face~
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
3916
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Posted - 2015.05.10 19:39:00 -
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:No one wants to admit how powerful it is to watch someone's movement and orientation. All your gungame means so little when there are 3+ guns waiting for you around a corner.
A lot of strategy was taken from the game when active scanners were added.
Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons
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(no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)
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Regnier Feros
Pielords
341
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Posted - 2015.05.10 20:40:00 -
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Quickly! Give me likes!
"You're like a she-male.. hates gym, doesn't know how to be alpha.. you'll stay in the friendzone for life" -Senpai
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SLENDER M4N
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
375
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Posted - 2015.05.10 20:43:00 -
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Regnier Feros wrote:Quickly! Give me likes! K
KainNoBueno
I watch hentai for the plot
Part of the Hentai United Club
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Regnier Feros
Pielords
341
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Posted - 2015.05.10 20:49:00 -
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SLENDER M4N wrote:Regnier Feros wrote:Quickly! Give me likes! K You will be rewarded later.
"You're like a she-male.. hates gym, doesn't know how to be alpha.. you'll stay in the friendzone for life" -Senpai
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
75
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Posted - 2015.05.10 20:56:00 -
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yup
CEO of LulKlz/ chat channel LulKlz, code 0000 <--- numbers
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Yeeeuuuupppp
No Context
1037
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Posted - 2015.05.10 20:56:00 -
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SLENDER M4N wrote:I see no problems with using an active scanner. I use them all the time. You don't see the problem because you aren't on the receiving end of the scans silly goose
Sheeba Sheeba
PSN: GMANCASH
"I played Dust so long i grew a f--king afro"
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1496
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Posted - 2015.05.10 20:58:00 -
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*looks at scanner*
Okay boss, I guess I will bring more gun game....
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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Lac Nokomis
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
79
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Posted - 2015.05.10 20:59:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Droopy Bawlz wrote:saxonmish wrote:Your a bi*ch. LOL JAJAJAJAJAJAJAAJAJAJ Says the guy camping CRU's and posting youtube videos about it. GTFO Hey man if they keep spawning im going to keep killing them
Love this attitude. No sarcasm. There's no need to save face in New Eden. |
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Varoth Drac
Dead Man's Game RUST415
828
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Posted - 2015.05.10 20:59:00 -
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If you want to avoid scans use profile dampeners. That said, I do think the Gal logi bonus should be to scan angle rather than precision. People should feel like they have the option to dampen below scans. At the moment it's too much of a sacrifice. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
18880
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Posted - 2015.05.10 21:03:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Droopy Bawlz wrote:saxonmish wrote:Your a bi*ch. LOL JAJAJAJAJAJAJAAJAJAJ Says the guy camping CRU's and posting youtube videos about it. GTFO Hey man if they keep spawning im going to keep killing them
Doesn't make you by your own logic any less of a *****.
However if you had left that self aggrandizing trash of "my skillz is better than your skillz" at the door perhaps you might have instead of making sweeping asinine statement attempted to break down the scanner in a constructive manner and presented something to CCP Rattati.......
"MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!"
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
9564
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Posted - 2015.05.10 21:09:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Wouldn't mind the things so much if they didn't make passive scans completely irrelevant. Why Rattati thought it was a good idea to give a single piece of equipment the ability to scan the enemy team for your entire team, I'll never know. theres nothing worse running solo vs a full pro squad and getting permascanned ^ this
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
9564
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Posted - 2015.05.10 21:25:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Can complain all you want but the Gallente Logi is probably one of the most under-powered roles in the game. You don't even get WP rewards for scanning for the entire team so the only thing you really get out of that is FGP (feel good points).
Even still, with the way cooldowns are with those things, you basically have to run all scanners in your equipment slot if you want to maintain awareness on the enemy but that also means you take a gun out of your hand. I really can't stand it when people say that they invalidate passive scans because it really isn't the case - you can shoot while maintaining passive scans. Passive scans are also 360 degrees of coverage, constantly going. There's no cooldowns, angles, or visibility times and you're not having to hold it in your hand for it to work.
-Shrug- Try running dedicated Scan Gal Logi sometime, see how annoying that can get. Also, be sure to record your voice comms whenever you rage out at the fact that even with all skills level 5 and all prototype gear you can't scan down some Scouts that insta-gib you with a shotgun/nova knives. So much is wrong with this. If it weren't Gallente unit doing it, you'd be on fire about permascan.
There's nothing UP about the GalLogi. I run it often, and it is straight up broken. I may not make much WP from scans, but I can permascan entire matches of Dom, Acq and Bush at 21dB at negligible risk. All by myself. For my entire team. My GalLogi's active scans are plainly broken, at 3 cPEs it's passive scans are as good as any scouts, and (unlike any recon scout) at 600+ HP it can hold its owns in a fight.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
976
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Posted - 2015.05.10 21:27:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:You're a bi*ch. Starts running around with a gal. logi and 3 creodron flux scanners.
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
9564
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Posted - 2015.05.10 21:33:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:saxonmish wrote:You're a bi*ch. Starts running around with a gal. logi and 3 creodron flux scanners. That's what I run. With 3 precision enhancers, a combat rifle, core locus nades + a hive and a bunch o brick. It is the lowest risk / highest reward recon unit Dust has ever seen.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Droopy Bawlz
myrtle beach leap frogz
47
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Posted - 2015.05.10 22:12:00 -
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Regnier Feros wrote:Quickly! Give me likes!
Are you a bad boy? |
Regnier Feros
Pielords
346
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Posted - 2015.05.10 22:27:00 -
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Droopy Bawlz wrote:Regnier Feros wrote:Quickly! Give me likes! Are you a h0rny boy? *gasp* HOW DID YOU KNOW?!
"You're like a she-male.. hates gym, doesn't know how to be alpha.. you'll stay in the friendzone for life" -Senpai
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Droopy Bawlz
myrtle beach leap frogz
53
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Posted - 2015.05.10 22:42:00 -
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Regnier Feros wrote:Droopy Bawlz wrote:Regnier Feros wrote:Quickly! Give me likes! Are you a h0rny boy? *gasp* HOW DID YOU KNOW?!
Oh Reigndeer,,,you soooo crazy, |
Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.Heaven Back and Forth
3817
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Posted - 2015.05.10 23:02:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:You're a bi*ch. Good, good: let the butthurt flow through you...
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
10636
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Posted - 2015.05.10 23:06:00 -
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Scanners need a falloff rate similar to how passive scans work.
I'd like to see that first.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
7402
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Posted - 2015.05.10 23:25:00 -
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You have been scanned.
Indefinitely.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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Droopy Bawlz
myrtle beach leap frogz
67
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Posted - 2015.05.11 00:08:00 -
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Regnier Feros wrote:Droopy Bawlz wrote:Regnier Feros wrote:Quickly! Give me likes! Are you a h0rny boy? *gasp* HOW DID YOU KNOW?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyWhY7etHWU
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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el OPERATOR
Capital Acquisitions LLC
1102
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Posted - 2015.05.11 00:16:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:saxonmish wrote:You're a bi*ch. Starts running around with a gal. logi and 3 creodron flux scanners. That's what I run. With 3 precision enhancers, a combat rifle, core locus nades + a hive and a bunch o brick. It is the slowest and highest profiled recon unit Dust has ever seen.
ftfy.
Open-Beta Vet.
Egbinger Original.
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
10036
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Posted - 2015.05.11 01:07:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Can complain all you want but the Gallente Logi is probably one of the most under-powered roles in the game. You don't even get WP rewards for scanning for the entire team so the only thing you really get out of that is FGP (feel good points).
Even still, with the way cooldowns are with those things, you basically have to run all scanners in your equipment slot if you want to maintain awareness on the enemy but that also means you take a gun out of your hand. I really can't stand it when people say that they invalidate passive scans because it really isn't the case - you can shoot while maintaining passive scans. Passive scans are also 360 degrees of coverage, constantly going. There's no cooldowns, angles, or visibility times and you're not having to hold it in your hand for it to work.
-Shrug- Try running dedicated Scan Gal Logi sometime, see how annoying that can get. Also, be sure to record your voice comms whenever you rage out at the fact that even with all skills level 5 and all prototype gear you can't scan down some Scouts that insta-gib you with a shotgun/nova knives. So much is wrong with this. If it weren't a Gallente unit doing it, you'd be on fire about permascan. There's nothing UP about the GalLogi. I run it often, and it is straight-up broken. I may not make much WP from scans, but I can permascan entire matches of Dom, Acq and Bush at negligible risk. All by myself. For my entire team. My GalLogi's 21 dB team-wide active scans are broken, at 3 cPEs it's passive scans are as good as any recon scouts -- and unlike a recon scout -- at 600+ HP it can hold its owns in a fight.
Lol, this post is full of dumb, even for you Adipem.
I really don't care about being permascanned. Go watch some of my videos and you'll see that I very rarely fit profile dampeners. I don't hide from my opponent, never have. Congrats, you can see me, now deal with me. Suppose your White Card in the Dust 514 Cards Against Humanity bit is spot on with the Ad Hominem though.
Congrats on being able to permascan in pubs. No, really, I'm impressed, so impressed that I'm just spilling over the brim with sarcasm. Also, you're a failure and an idiot if you're putting on PEs on a Gallente Logi, for real. Comparing the Gal Logi's recon ability to the Scout's is also some serious derp because they're designed for different things. You don't see Gallente Logi's running around with the ability to fit long-lasting cloaking devices, inherent low profiles, and fast movement speed. 600+ HP is great when you're standing still. Doesn't help worth a damn when you have to move. You're also not hiding from anyone, no matter how well you can see them.
But yanno, what would I know, I'm just a terribad Gallente roleplayer (even though I'm an Intaki secessionist who has proto Minmatar Commando/Assault/Logi and am working on Caldari Logi/Assault).
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
2745
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Posted - 2015.05.11 01:12:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Wouldn't mind the things so much if they didn't make passive scans completely irrelevant. Why Rattati thought it was a good idea to give a single piece of equipment the ability to scan the enemy team for your entire team, I'll never know. theres nothing worse running solo vs a full pro squad and getting permascanned Shared scans is the single biggest force multiplier in the game - i want it gone from pubs.
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
10038
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Posted - 2015.05.11 01:15:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:saxonmish wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Wouldn't mind the things so much if they didn't make passive scans completely irrelevant. Why Rattati thought it was a good idea to give a single piece of equipment the ability to scan the enemy team for your entire team, I'll never know. theres nothing worse running solo vs a full pro squad and getting permascanned Shared scans is the single biggest force multiplier in the game - i want it gone from pubs.
Assume that shared scans were done away with completely. What would you want that one Logistics suit's role to be instead? (I can't call it Gallente or Adipem will come in here flipping his lid)
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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Crimson ShieId
Horizons' Edge No Context
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Posted - 2015.05.11 01:19:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:saxonmish wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Wouldn't mind the things so much if they didn't make passive scans completely irrelevant. Why Rattati thought it was a good idea to give a single piece of equipment the ability to scan the enemy team for your entire team, I'll never know. theres nothing worse running solo vs a full pro squad and getting permascanned Shared scans is the single biggest force multiplier in the game - i want it gone from pubs. Assume that shared scans were done away with completely. What would you want that one Logistics suit's role to be instead? (I can't call it Gallente or Adipem will come in here flipping his lid)
There's really nothing else for the Gallente Logi. The scanner is their only piece of equipment at the moment. A nerf would be alright, but a buff to passive scans would be even better. Allow other suits to compete. Dodging scans isn't all that difficult, 2-3 dampeners hides you completely. I wouldn't mind seeing the skill changed either, let it be total time scanned, or scan radius or range, or all of the above. Would make something so powerful be a little easier to avoid, but at that point, if people still complained, they'd have only themselves to blame.
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.05.11 01:25:00 -
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Anyone got a problem with scanners + your team is pushed all over the place?
Here's the solution. Eqiup one shiny Amarr assault suit with Laser. Now fry them all.
Tip served.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
10640
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Posted - 2015.05.11 01:27:00 -
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It would be freaken awesome if we had an area damp field equipment.
It would work like a dampener, except over a certain area and it has a duration time and cool down period.
Great for pushing objectives where the enemy is entrenched.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.05.11 01:36:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:saxonmish wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Wouldn't mind the things so much if they didn't make passive scans completely irrelevant. Why Rattati thought it was a good idea to give a single piece of equipment the ability to scan the enemy team for your entire team, I'll never know. theres nothing worse running solo vs a full pro squad and getting permascanned Shared scans is the single biggest force multiplier in the game - i want it gone from pubs. Assume that shared scans were done away with completely. What would you want that one Logistics suit's role to be instead? (I can't call it Gallente or Adipem will come in here flipping his lid) There's really nothing else for the Gallente Logi. The scanner is their only piece of equipment at the moment. A nerf would be alright, but a buff to passive scans would be even better. Allow other suits to compete. Dodging scans isn't all that difficult, 2-3 dampeners hides you completely. I wouldn't mind seeing the skill changed either, let it be total time scanned, or scan radius or range, or all of the above. Would make something so powerful be a little easier to avoid, but at that point, if people still complained, they'd have only themselves to blame.
I dislike homogenization of battlefield roles.
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
2745
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Posted - 2015.05.11 01:40:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:saxonmish wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Wouldn't mind the things so much if they didn't make passive scans completely irrelevant. Why Rattati thought it was a good idea to give a single piece of equipment the ability to scan the enemy team for your entire team, I'll never know. theres nothing worse running solo vs a full pro squad and getting permascanned Shared scans is the single biggest force multiplier in the game - i want it gone from pubs. Assume that shared scans were done away with completely. What would you want that one Logistics suit's role to be instead? (I can't call it Gallente or Adipem will come in here flipping his lid) Not a clue, tbh, would really want to go back and re-read those threads. I've got nothing against the Gallogi bonus or shared scans, in principle. In FW and PC it belongs, and now that we have two tier matchmaking it's not as burningly critical an issue as it once was.
If i was modifying the Gallogi for pubs maybe require squadmates to be within a certain range of their Logis if they want to benefit from shared scans.
This is bringing back memories of how against tacnet-based equipment bonuses i was back then - information asymmetry is tremendously powerful in any situation.
But to answer your question, if the scanner bonus were removed from Gallogis, i suppose i'd want the bonus to be armor-based. Maybe split the repair tool bonus into range and rate and give one mostly to Min and one mostly to Gall. Or give Gall a flat-out bonus to all armor repair, be it from hives or repair tools.
*Braces for incoming flaming*
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
9574
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Posted - 2015.05.11 02:17:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Can complain all you want but the Gallente Logi is probably one of the most under-powered roles in the game. You don't even get WP rewards for scanning for the entire team so the only thing you really get out of that is FGP (feel good points).
Even still, with the way cooldowns are with those things, you basically have to run all scanners in your equipment slot if you want to maintain awareness on the enemy but that also means you take a gun out of your hand. I really can't stand it when people say that they invalidate passive scans because it really isn't the case - you can shoot while maintaining passive scans. Passive scans are also 360 degrees of coverage, constantly going. There's no cooldowns, angles, or visibility times and you're not having to hold it in your hand for it to work.
-Shrug- Try running dedicated Scan Gal Logi sometime, see how annoying that can get. Also, be sure to record your voice comms whenever you rage out at the fact that even with all skills level 5 and all prototype gear you can't scan down some Scouts that insta-gib you with a shotgun/nova knives. So much is wrong with this. If it weren't a Gallente unit doing it, you'd be on fire about permascan. There's nothing UP about the GalLogi. I run it often, and it is straight-up broken. I may not make much WP from scans, but I can permascan entire matches of Dom, Acq and Bush at negligible risk. All by myself. For my entire team. My GalLogi's 21 dB team-wide active scans are broken, at 3 cPEs it's passive scans are as good as any recon scouts -- and unlike a recon scout -- at 600+ HP it can hold its owns in a fight. Lol, this post is full of dumb, even for you Adipem. I really don't care about being permascanned. Go watch some of my videos and you'll see that I very rarely fit profile dampeners. I don't hide from my opponent, never have. Congrats, you can see me, now deal with me. Suppose your White Card in the Dust 514 Cards Against Humanity bit is spot on with the Ad Hominem though. Congrats on being able to permascan in pubs. No, really, I'm impressed, so impressed that I'm just spilling over the brim with sarcasm. Also, you're a failure and an idiot if you're putting on PEs on a Gallente Logi, for real. Comparing the Gal Logi's recon ability to the Scout's is also some serious derp because they're designed for different things. You don't see Gallente Logi's running around with the ability to fit long-lasting cloaking devices, inherent low profiles, and fast movement speed. 600+ HP is great when you're standing still. Doesn't help worth a damn when you have to move. You're also not hiding from anyone, no matter how well you can see them. But yanno, what would I know, I'm just a terribad Gallente roleplayer (even though I'm an Intaki secessionist who has proto Minmatar Commando/Assault/Logi and am working on Caldari Logi/Assault). EDIT: Couldn't help but bring this up because of how fail it is. With 3 cPEs on a Gal Logi you have 24db passive scans - sure - but that's over 19m. Are you freaggin high, dude? 19m is BS, if you haven't eyeballed them visually at 19m you need to seriously re-evaluate what kind of games you play I've run every iteration of Recon Scout since Beta; there has never been a lower risk / higher reward recon unit than today's GalLogi. It is absolutely overpowered.
As for the 3 cPEs on GalLogi, it sets my outer ring to 31dB, which is low enough to pickup undampened MinScouts out to 38 meters. I could fit more HP or myofibs, but I really haven't the need. I can kill just fine with 600-700 HP. I'm used to killing with half that.
Shoot scout with yes.
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MrShooter01
Ustio Mercenary Squadron
1538
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Posted - 2015.05.11 02:20:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:
Assume that shared scans were done away with completely. What would you want that one Logistics suit's role to be instead? (I can't call it Gallente or Adipem will come in here flipping his lid)
Tracking link equipment
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Weary Guy
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Posted - 2015.05.11 02:29:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Wouldn't mind the things so much if they didn't make passive scans completely irrelevant. Why Rattati thought it was a good idea to give a single piece of equipment the ability to scan the enemy team for your entire team, I'll never know. theres nothing worse running solo vs a full pro squad and getting permascanned
respect
Running solo, i no longer see you as a Pubstar...i run scans when i am not running a cloak on my scout (Ewar never works)
anyway, i expect some solo stomping videos soon! Roman837 and his squad are fun to stomp. Akhomi Cypher and Crazy Cat Lady never run solo...i stabbed them like 6 times in once...they returned with perma-scans 0uter.Heaven, FA and Capital Acquisition leave when they see opposition unless they bring a full squad Japanese corps stay in game (they so beastmode)
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Regnier Feros
Pielords
352
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Posted - 2015.05.11 02:47:00 -
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LMAO
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
10043
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Posted - 2015.05.11 03:02:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:saxonmish wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Wouldn't mind the things so much if they didn't make passive scans completely irrelevant. Why Rattati thought it was a good idea to give a single piece of equipment the ability to scan the enemy team for your entire team, I'll never know. theres nothing worse running solo vs a full pro squad and getting permascanned Shared scans is the single biggest force multiplier in the game - i want it gone from pubs. Assume that shared scans were done away with completely. What would you want that one Logistics suit's role to be instead? (I can't call it Gallente or Adipem will come in here flipping his lid) Not a clue, tbh, would really want to go back and re-read those threads. I've got nothing against the Gallogi bonus or shared scans, in principle. In FW and PC it belongs, and now that we have two tier matchmaking it's not as burningly critical an issue as it once was. If i was modifying the Gallogi for pubs maybe require squadmates to be within a certain range of their Logis if they want to benefit from shared scans. This is bringing back memories of how against tacnet-based equipment bonuses i was back then - information asymmetry is tremendously powerful in any situation. But to answer your question, if the scanner bonus were removed from Gallogis, i suppose i'd want the bonus to be armor-based. Maybe split the repair tool bonus into range and rate and give one mostly to Min and one mostly to Gall. Or give Gall a flat-out bonus to all armor repair, be it from hives or repair tools. *Braces for incoming flaming*
It's not a terrible idea. Fits with their combat philosophy. I like the idea of requiring squad-mates to be within a certain range to benefit from shared scans though, not gonna lie. Just seems to make more sense. Although, as a sniper, I kind of worry that there'd be a limitation in the tactical viability of a Scanner + Sniper combo.
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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Pocket Rocket Girl
Psygod9
382
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Posted - 2015.05.11 04:01:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Can complain all you want but the Gallente Logi is probably one of the most under-powered roles in the game. You don't even get WP rewards for scanning for the entire team so the only thing you really get out of that is FGP (feel good points).
Even still, with the way cooldowns are with those things, you basically have to run all scanners in your equipment slot if you want to maintain awareness on the enemy but that also means you take a gun out of your hand. I really can't stand it when people say that they invalidate passive scans because it really isn't the case - you can shoot while maintaining passive scans. Passive scans are also 360 degrees of coverage, constantly going. There's no cooldowns, angles, or visibility times and you're not having to hold it in your hand for it to work.
-Shrug- Try running dedicated Scan Gal Logi sometime, see how annoying that can get. Also, be sure to record your voice comms whenever you rage out at the fact that even with all skills level 5 and all prototype gear you can't scan down some Scouts that insta-gib you with a shotgun/nova knives. So much is wrong with this. If it weren't a Gallente unit doing it, you'd be on fire about permascan. There's nothing UP about the GalLogi. I run it often, and it is straight-up broken. I may not make much WP from scans, but I can permascan entire matches of Dom, Acq and Bush at negligible risk. All by myself. For my entire team. My GalLogi's 21 dB team-wide active scans are broken, at 3 cPEs it's passive scans are as good as any recon scouts -- and unlike a recon scout -- at 600+ HP it can hold its owns in a fight. Lol, this post is full of dumb, even for you Adipem. I really don't care about being permascanned. Go watch some of my videos and you'll see that I very rarely fit profile dampeners. I don't hide from my opponent, never have. Congrats, you can see me, now deal with me. Suppose your White Card in the Dust 514 Cards Against Humanity bit is spot on with the Ad Hominem though. Congrats on being able to permascan in pubs. No, really, I'm impressed, so impressed that I'm just spilling over the brim with sarcasm. Also, you're a failure and an idiot if you're putting on PEs on a Gallente Logi, for real. Comparing the Gal Logi's recon ability to the Scout's is also some serious derp because they're designed for different things. You don't see Gallente Logi's running around with the ability to fit long-lasting cloaking devices, inherent low profiles, and fast movement speed. 600+ HP is great when you're standing still. Doesn't help worth a damn when you have to move. You're also not hiding from anyone, no matter how well you can see them. But yanno, what would I know, I'm just a terribad Gallente roleplayer (even though I'm an Intaki secessionist who has proto Minmatar Commando/Assault/Logi and am working on Caldari Logi/Assault). EDIT: Couldn't help but bring this up because of how fail it is. With 3 cPEs on a Gal Logi you have 24db passive scans - sure - but that's over 19m. Are you freaggin high, dude? 19m is BS, if you haven't eyeballed them visually at 19m you need to seriously re-evaluate what kind of games you play
In short QQ lol
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Nestil
Nos Nothi
252
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Posted - 2015.05.11 04:19:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:You're a bi*ch.
Here I give you +1 for insulting yourself (well and your half Corp)
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Droopy Bawlz
myrtle beach leap frogz
97
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Posted - 2015.05.11 14:43:00 -
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Nestil wrote:saxonmish wrote:You're a bi*ch. Here I give you +1 for insulting yourself (well and your half Corp)
I should give him a +1. He is a gold mine for Likes. I wish he would post more lame threads.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. RUST415
3764
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Posted - 2015.05.11 15:09:00 -
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When I'm being permascanned, I do one of two things:
Either I scan them back, or I run dampeners.
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Droopy Bawlz
myrtle beach leap frogz
101
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Posted - 2015.05.11 15:12:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:When I'm being permascanned, I do one of two things:
Either I scan them back, or I run dampeners.
It's not that hard to figure out.
Shhhhh Stop it. Common sense can get you banned in this area.
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2Berries
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
869
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Posted - 2015.05.11 16:19:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:It would be freaken awesome if we had an area damp field equipment.
It would work like a dampener, except over a certain area and it has a duration time and cool down period.
Great for pushing objectives where the enemy is entrenched.
I was thinking the opposite. Instead of hiding everything a piece of equipment that makes a 75m red dot would be a great counter to scans. Give it high bandwidth (only deploy one), small surface area (uplink size or smaller) and an active time limit seld destructs after 2-3 minutes).
Honestly, this tread is f*cked. How can you support spawn camping & cry over scans? If you just want to play with the same 50 people over & over again go qsync FW. If you want new players to come into the game give then a chance to live & fight. Pubs are either all proto or proto/officer mix now. Only way for a noob to know which way death is comomg from is by active scanners.
Does your bitching include scans from vehicles? Those have been doing the lions share of scans.
Evening Boys, Hows the water?
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2Berries
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
869
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Posted - 2015.05.11 16:20:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:When I'm being permascanned, I do one of two things:
Either I scan them back, or I run dampeners.
It's not that hard to figure out. I like it: Scans - get under it or get over it.
Evening Boys, Hows the water?
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The KTM DuKe
Dead Man's Game
198
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Posted - 2015.05.11 17:26:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:You're a bi*ch. Video or it didnt happen
Warning, Forgegun proof V! The 1st Surf-Forgegunner in a PC. Hunting officer gear users.
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