DUST Search - If you use a scanner, read this

Adipem Nothi wrote:

Aeon Amadi wrote:

Can complain all you want but the Gallente Logi is probably one of the most under-powered roles in the game. You don't even get WP rewards for scanning for the entire team so the only thing you really get out of that is FGP (feel good points).

Even still, with the way cooldowns are with those things, you basically have to run all scanners in your equipment slot if you want to maintain awareness on the enemy but that also means you take a gun out of your hand. I really can't stand it when people say that they invalidate passive scans because it really isn't the case - you can shoot while maintaining passive scans. Passive scans are also 360 degrees of coverage, constantly going. There's no cooldowns, angles, or visibility times and you're not having to hold it in your hand for it to work.

-Shrug- Try running dedicated Scan Gal Logi sometime, see how annoying that can get. Also, be sure to record your voice comms whenever you rage out at the fact that even with all skills level 5 and all prototype gear you can't scan down some Scouts that insta-gib you with a shotgun/nova knives.

So much is wrong with this. If it weren't a Gallente unit doing it, you'd be on fire about permascan.

There's nothing UP about the GalLogi. I run it often, and it is straight-up broken. I may not make much WP from scans, but I can permascan entire matches of Dom, Acq and Bush at negligible risk. All by myself. For my entire team. My GalLogi's 21 dB team-wide active scans are broken, at 3 cPEs it's passive scans are as good as any recon scouts -- and unlike a recon scout -- at 600+ HP it can hold its owns in a fight.

You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go

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Sergeant Sazu Mantodea MC 474	Posted - 2015.05.10 19:09:00 - [31] - Quote No one wants to admit how powerful it is to watch someone's movement and orientation. All your gungame means so little when there are 3+ guns waiting for you around a corner. A lot of strategy was taken from the game when active scanners were added. [56.2m SP, Next skill: Minmatar Sentinel 5] Veteran Assault - Expert Logibro - Aspiring Minja - Speedy Sentinel
Crimson ShieId Horizons' Edge No Context 2599	Posted - 2015.05.10 19:20:00 - [32] - Quote MrShooter01 wrote: Sometimes, I like to use a gallogi fit I set up with 3x creodron flux scanners and just sit in a safe spot (the redline even, if the map is small enough) cycling between them while I split my attention on something else outside the game I get no points for this, but the warm fuzzy feeling I get as the entire enemy team goes slowly insane from "YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED" blocking their screen is reward enough I'm sending you my merc's therapy bill. My Plasma Cannon says "Hello" to your face~
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 3916	Posted - 2015.05.10 19:39:00 - [33] - Quote Sergeant Sazu wrote: No one wants to admit how powerful it is to watch someone's movement and orientation. All your gungame means so little when there are 3+ guns waiting for you around a corner. A lot of strategy was taken from the game when active scanners were added. Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons First to PM me with common name wins (no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)
Regnier Feros Pielords 341	Posted - 2015.05.10 20:40:00 - [34] - Quote Quickly! Give me likes! "You're like a she-male.. hates gym, doesn't know how to be alpha.. you'll stay in the friendzone for life" -Senpai
SLENDER M4N Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 375	Posted - 2015.05.10 20:43:00 - [35] - Quote Regnier Feros wrote: Quickly! Give me likes! K KainNoBueno I watch hentai for the plot Part of the Hentai United Club
Regnier Feros Pielords 341	Posted - 2015.05.10 20:49:00 - [36] - Quote SLENDER M4N wrote: Regnier Feros wrote: Quickly! Give me likes! K You will be rewarded later. "You're like a she-male.. hates gym, doesn't know how to be alpha.. you'll stay in the friendzone for life" -Senpai
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 75	Posted - 2015.05.10 20:56:00 - [37] - Quote yup CEO of LulKlz/ chat channel LulKlz, code 0000 <--- numbers
Yeeeuuuupppp No Context 1037	Posted - 2015.05.10 20:56:00 - [38] - Quote SLENDER M4N wrote: I see no problems with using an active scanner. I use them all the time. You don't see the problem because you aren't on the receiving end of the scans silly goose *Sheeba Sheeba* PSN: GMANCASH "I played Dust so long i grew a f--king afro"
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1496	Posted - 2015.05.10 20:58:00 - [39] - Quote looks at scanner Okay boss, I guess I will bring more gun game.... Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
Lac Nokomis Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 79	Posted - 2015.05.10 20:59:00 - [40] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Droopy Bawlz wrote: saxonmish wrote: Your a bi*ch. LOL JAJAJAJAJAJAJAAJAJAJ Says the guy camping CRU's and posting youtube videos about it. GTFO Hey man if they keep spawning im going to keep killing them Love this attitude. No sarcasm. There's no need to save face in New Eden.

Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game RUST415 828	Posted - 2015.05.10 20:59:00 - [41] - Quote If you want to avoid scans use profile dampeners. That said, I do think the Gal logi bonus should be to scan angle rather than precision. People should feel like they have the option to dampen below scans. At the moment it's too much of a sacrifice.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18880	Posted - 2015.05.10 21:03:00 - [42] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Droopy Bawlz wrote: saxonmish wrote: Your a bich. LOL JAJAJAJAJAJAJAAJAJAJ Says the guy camping CRU's and posting youtube videos about it. GTFO Hey man if they keep spawning im going to keep killing them Doesn't make you by your own logic any less of a ****. However if you had left that self aggrandizing trash of "my skillz is better than your skillz" at the door perhaps you might have instead of making sweeping asinine statement attempted to break down the scanner in a constructive manner and presented something to CCP Rattati....... "MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!" - Mobius Wyvern
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 9564	Posted - 2015.05.10 21:09:00 - [43] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: Wouldn't mind the things so much if they didn't make passive scans completely irrelevant. Why Rattati thought it was a good idea to give a single piece of equipment the ability to scan the enemy team for your entire team, I'll never know. theres nothing worse running solo vs a full pro squad and getting permascanned ^ this Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 9564	Posted - 2015.05.10 21:25:00 - [44] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Can complain all you want but the Gallente Logi is probably one of the most under-powered roles in the game. You don't even get WP rewards for scanning for the entire team so the only thing you really get out of that is FGP (feel good points). Even still, with the way cooldowns are with those things, you basically have to run all scanners in your equipment slot if you want to maintain awareness on the enemy but that also means you take a gun out of your hand. I really can't stand it when people say that they invalidate passive scans because it really isn't the case - you can shoot while maintaining passive scans. Passive scans are also 360 degrees of coverage, constantly going. There's no cooldowns, angles, or visibility times and you're not having to hold it in your hand for it to work. -Shrug- Try running dedicated Scan Gal Logi sometime, see how annoying that can get. Also, be sure to record your voice comms whenever you rage out at the fact that even with all skills level 5 and all prototype gear you can't scan down some Scouts that insta-gib you with a shotgun/nova knives. So much is wrong with this. If it weren't Gallente unit doing it, you'd be on fire about permascan. There's nothing UP about the GalLogi. I run it often, and it is straight up broken. I may not make much WP from scans, but I can permascan entire matches of Dom, Acq and Bush at 21dB at negligible risk. All by myself. For my entire team. My GalLogi's active scans are plainly broken, at 3 cPEs it's passive scans are as good as any scouts, and (unlike any recon scout) at 600+ HP it can hold its owns in a fight. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 976	Posted - 2015.05.10 21:27:00 - [45] - Quote saxonmish wrote: You're a bi*ch. Starts running around with a gal. logi and 3 creodron flux scanners. Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 9564	Posted - 2015.05.10 21:33:00 - [46] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: saxonmish wrote: You're a bi*ch. Starts running around with a gal. logi and 3 creodron flux scanners. That's what I run. With 3 precision enhancers, a combat rifle, core locus nades + a hive and a bunch o brick. It is the lowest risk / highest reward recon unit Dust has ever seen. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Droopy Bawlz myrtle beach leap frogz 47	Posted - 2015.05.10 22:12:00 - [47] - Quote Regnier Feros wrote: Quickly! Give me likes! Are you a bad boy?
Regnier Feros Pielords 346	Posted - 2015.05.10 22:27:00 - [48] - Quote Droopy Bawlz wrote: Regnier Feros wrote: Quickly! Give me likes! Are you a h0rny boy? gasp HOW DID YOU KNOW?! "You're like a she-male.. hates gym, doesn't know how to be alpha.. you'll stay in the friendzone for life" -Senpai
Droopy Bawlz myrtle beach leap frogz 53	Posted - 2015.05.10 22:42:00 - [49] - Quote Regnier Feros wrote: Droopy Bawlz wrote: Regnier Feros wrote: Quickly! Give me likes! Are you a h0rny boy? gasp HOW DID YOU KNOW?! Oh Reigndeer,,,you soooo crazy,
Dreis ShadowWeaver 0uter.Heaven Back and Forth 3817	Posted - 2015.05.10 23:02:00 - [50] - Quote saxonmish wrote: You're a bi*ch. Good, good: let the butthurt flow through you... Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Day 24/30 exclusively Minja

Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 10636	Posted - 2015.05.10 23:06:00 - [51] - Quote Scanners need a falloff rate similar to how passive scans work. I'd like to see that first. Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 7402	Posted - 2015.05.10 23:25:00 - [52] - Quote You have been scanned. Indefinitely. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
Droopy Bawlz myrtle beach leap frogz 67	Posted - 2015.05.11 00:08:00 - [53] - Quote Regnier Feros wrote: Droopy Bawlz wrote: Regnier Feros wrote: Quickly! Give me likes! Are you a h0rny boy? gasp HOW DID YOU KNOW?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyWhY7etHWU (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby! ITS MY SIG SO GET YOUR OWN
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC 1102	Posted - 2015.05.11 00:16:00 - [54] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Bright Cloud wrote: saxonmish wrote: You're a bi*ch. Starts running around with a gal. logi and 3 creodron flux scanners. That's what I run. With 3 precision enhancers, a combat rifle, core locus nades + a hive and a bunch o brick. It is the slowest and highest profiled recon unit Dust has ever seen. ftfy. Open-Beta Vet. Egbinger Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 10036	Posted - 2015.05.11 01:07:00 - [55] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Can complain all you want but the Gallente Logi is probably one of the most under-powered roles in the game. You don't even get WP rewards for scanning for the entire team so the only thing you really get out of that is FGP (feel good points). Even still, with the way cooldowns are with those things, you basically have to run all scanners in your equipment slot if you want to maintain awareness on the enemy but that also means you take a gun out of your hand. I really can't stand it when people say that they invalidate passive scans because it really isn't the case - you can shoot while maintaining passive scans. Passive scans are also 360 degrees of coverage, constantly going. There's no cooldowns, angles, or visibility times and you're not having to hold it in your hand for it to work. -Shrug- Try running dedicated Scan Gal Logi sometime, see how annoying that can get. Also, be sure to record your voice comms whenever you rage out at the fact that even with all skills level 5 and all prototype gear you can't scan down some Scouts that insta-gib you with a shotgun/nova knives. So much is wrong with this. If it weren't a Gallente unit doing it, you'd be on fire about permascan. There's nothing UP about the GalLogi. I run it often, and it is straight-up broken. I may not make much WP from scans, but I can permascan entire matches of Dom, Acq and Bush at negligible risk. All by myself. For my entire team. My GalLogi's 21 dB team-wide active scans are broken, at 3 cPEs it's passive scans are as good as any recon scouts -- and unlike a recon scout -- at 600+ HP it can hold its owns in a fight. Lol, this post is full of dumb, even for you Adipem. I really don't care about being permascanned. Go watch some of my videos and you'll see that I very rarely fit profile dampeners. I don't hide from my opponent, never have. Congrats, you can see me, now deal with me. Suppose your White Card in the Dust 514 Cards Against Humanity bit is spot on with the Ad Hominem though. Congrats on being able to permascan in pubs. No, really, I'm impressed, so impressed that I'm just spilling over the brim with sarcasm. Also, you're a failure and an idiot if you're putting on PEs on a Gallente Logi, for real. Comparing the Gal Logi's recon ability to the Scout's is also some serious derp because they're designed for different things. You don't see Gallente Logi's running around with the ability to fit long-lasting cloaking devices, inherent low profiles, and fast movement speed. 600+ HP is great when you're standing still. Doesn't help worth a damn when you have to move. You're also not hiding from anyone, no matter how well you can see them. But yanno, what would I know, I'm just a terribad Gallente roleplayer (even though I'm an Intaki secessionist who has proto Minmatar Commando/Assault/Logi and am working on Caldari Logi/Assault). You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2745	Posted - 2015.05.11 01:12:00 - [56] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: Wouldn't mind the things so much if they didn't make passive scans completely irrelevant. Why Rattati thought it was a good idea to give a single piece of equipment the ability to scan the enemy team for your entire team, I'll never know. theres nothing worse running solo vs a full pro squad and getting permascanned Shared scans is the single biggest force multiplier in the game - i want it gone from pubs. PSN: RationalSpark
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 10038	Posted - 2015.05.11 01:15:00 - [57] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: saxonmish wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: Wouldn't mind the things so much if they didn't make passive scans completely irrelevant. Why Rattati thought it was a good idea to give a single piece of equipment the ability to scan the enemy team for your entire team, I'll never know. theres nothing worse running solo vs a full pro squad and getting permascanned Shared scans is the single biggest force multiplier in the game - i want it gone from pubs. Assume that shared scans were done away with completely. What would you want that one Logistics suit's role to be instead? (I can't call it Gallente or Adipem will come in here flipping his lid) You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
Crimson ShieId Horizons' Edge No Context 2609	Posted - 2015.05.11 01:19:00 - [58] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Vrain Matari wrote: saxonmish wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: Wouldn't mind the things so much if they didn't make passive scans completely irrelevant. Why Rattati thought it was a good idea to give a single piece of equipment the ability to scan the enemy team for your entire team, I'll never know. theres nothing worse running solo vs a full pro squad and getting permascanned Shared scans is the single biggest force multiplier in the game - i want it gone from pubs. Assume that shared scans were done away with completely. What would you want that one Logistics suit's role to be instead? (I can't call it Gallente or Adipem will come in here flipping his lid) There's really nothing else for the Gallente Logi. The scanner is their only piece of equipment at the moment. A nerf would be alright, but a buff to passive scans would be even better. Allow other suits to compete. Dodging scans isn't all that difficult, 2-3 dampeners hides you completely. I wouldn't mind seeing the skill changed either, let it be total time scanned, or scan radius or range, or all of the above. Would make something so powerful be a little easier to avoid, but at that point, if people still complained, they'd have only themselves to blame. My Plasma Cannon says "Hello" to your face~
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 1362	Posted - 2015.05.11 01:25:00 - [59] - Quote Anyone got a problem with scanners + your team is pushed all over the place? Here's the solution. Eqiup one shiny Amarr assault suit with Laser. Now fry them all. Tip served. Caldari Loyalist thecreaturehub fan
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 10640	Posted - 2015.05.11 01:27:00 - [60] - Quote It would be freaken awesome if we had an area damp field equipment. It would work like a dampener, except over a certain area and it has a duration time and cool down period. Great for pushing objectives where the enemy is entrenched. Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel



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