DUST Search - How would you guys feel if

Matius Indectus wrote:

Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:

Ripley Riley wrote:

I could stand for an entire patch dedicated to bugs, large and small. Perhaps a second patch focusing on optimization.

I don't see it happening though. The reality is Dust 514 does not offer enough content to generate consistent, steady profit on it's own merit. Every patch must have something that drives aurum sales. Without aurum sales CCP cannot justify keeping Dust 514 online.

See this guy gets that Its a business

That plays to the free to play mentality well, but I will pose a question to you.

If the games shooting and core mechanics are not optimized and streamlined will anybody new to the game put up with it?

The answer is no. The amount of weapons and gear doesn't play as big a role as you might think, other shooters have like CoD and battlefield have just as much content maybe even less in a way. I have said this a lot, how the game play as an FPS doesn't compare to its competitors.

Dust will not retain players because noobs will just think the controls and core shooter mechanics suck. All the shiny officer and aur gear and weapons will not compensate for poorly designed core mechanics.

It's like building a house, you don't start with walls and roofing, you start with the foundation.

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Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 9979	Posted - 2015.05.09 20:05:00 - [1] - Quote CCP put new content and balancing on hold for a month or two to work solely on nothing but bug fixes? You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 1822	Posted - 2015.05.09 20:14:00 - [2] - Quote As an end user, I would love it. Makes a lot of common sense, doesn't it? I suspect, though Rattati could never admit it, that the ones at CCP controlling the purse strings, have mandated that work on DUST should be focused on action items that generate interest and revenue going forward in perpetuity. My own personal speculation. "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
Sergeant Sazu Mantodea MC 454	Posted - 2015.05.09 20:29:00 - [3] - Quote I would wait as long as it takes. -Dat loading wheel of death and despair... and disconnection -Ferroscales not getting the efficacy bonus -The redline timer being inaccurate and continuing even after you leave it These are the ones that make me bittervet. (If that was a verb) [56.1m SP, Next skill: Minmatar Sentinel 5] Veteran Assault - Expert Logibro - Aspiring Minja - Speedy Sentinel
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance 2833	Posted - 2015.05.09 20:55:00 - [4] - Quote I would feel happy. Knowing the wait is worth it. Minmatar-Daredevil, blind but smart & resourceful, & no qualms about smashing faces Autistic Athletic Nerd Bring it
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 7377	Posted - 2015.05.09 21:05:00 - [5] - Quote Nothing would make me happier. Okay, maybe a few things... Bug fix patches are best patches!
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 8510	Posted - 2015.05.09 21:07:00 - [6] - Quote as long as inertia/strafing fixes are included, hell yes There's never enough sh**posting going on, so let's add a few more teaspoons of the guy posting after me to the recipie!
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 6294	Posted - 2015.05.09 21:14:00 - [7] - Quote Wouldn't matter to me personally as I've gotten use to the unexpected but for the betterment of the game sure. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 9986	Posted - 2015.05.09 21:16:00 - [8] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: as long as inertia/strafing fixes are included, hell yes You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 1223	Posted - 2015.05.09 22:46:00 - [9] - Quote Depends what's fixed. I think streamlining map design and player movement would be well worth it. For example: - Being able to hurdle over waist-height railings. - If they made it so my character never had another seizure while moving or aiming on uneven terrain. I really hate that. - Smoothing out all the terrain. Trust me, it sucks for new players to see someone run up a hill, try to follow, run into numerous invisible dead ends, start jumping, run out of stamina, see their 1 CM jump height, feel useless, then get killed in the back by protostompers. Let everyone run up hills! - Better visual distinction of what can be walked up. Like above, if a player can't run over something, give some sort of visual cue. Most of the non-traversable terrain in Dust looks completely traversable, compounding the problem. - LAV's should be way less clunky. - Nerf camera shake. Make it shake less. Or make it proportional to fall height, so 1 CM drops don't move your reticle. Or make it only shake when you do the sprint-jump. In any case, I really want the jump-seizures to stop. I'd be 100% down for this type of streamlining. Who cares what some sniper has to say. **--CCP, let's push for the license of Dust/Legion on both current Gen consoles-
thor424 Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 155	Posted - 2015.05.09 22:59:00 - [10] - Quote After PC 2.0, I think it's time to get that out. But I do hope after that things get cleaned up. Thor's Emporium

VAHZZ 1866	Posted - 2015.05.09 23:03:00 - [11] - Quote PC 2.0 and then nothing but bug fixes. NOTHING. BUT. BUG. FIXES. WOULD. MAKE. ME. HAPPY. C.C.P. "I bring nothing; I bless nothing, I save nothing, I just; erase. Completely. Shatter."
Cypher Nil Fireteam Tempest 287	Posted - 2015.05.09 23:05:00 - [12] - Quote I love the idea but at the same time if nothing new came about for a month i think the game would finally die out n++pâçGòÉS+Ç 28+ Million SP Merc n++pâçGòÉS+Ç Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Caldari Loyalist Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Of course we won, now when do I get paid?
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 746	Posted - 2015.05.09 23:10:00 - [13] - Quote as much as "no new stuff" sucks "no new stuff"<"old broke **** is fixed" Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2305	Posted - 2015.05.09 23:22:00 - [14] - Quote If they can fix net coding in two months ill just assign a fair amount of my milk check to them. Better netcoding and plugged memory leaks. Last pieces of the broken puzlzle.
ToRgUe77 21	Posted - 2015.05.10 00:16:00 - [15] - Quote absolutely. definitely rather have no fatal errors over new aur skinsncrap
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2741	Posted - 2015.05.10 00:30:00 - [16] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP put new content and balancing on hold for a month or two to work solely on nothing but bug fixes? I'd be 100% behind them on that. Hell, i'd even spend $20 dollars on the game out of a kind of mushy-headed sentimentality for ol' times sake. Which beats the $0 dollars that i've spent since the Rouge wedding. PSN: RationalSpark
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2741	Posted - 2015.05.10 00:33:00 - [17] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: As an end user, I would love it. Makes a lot of common sense, doesn't it? I suspect, though Rattati could never admit it, that the ones at CCP controlling the purse strings, have mandated that work on DUST should be focused on action items that generate interest and revenue going forward in perpetuity. My own personal speculation. My speculation: Dust 514 is now CCP Z's marketing model testbed. PSN: RationalSpark
Scheneighnay McBob And the ButtPirates 6501	Posted - 2015.05.10 00:35:00 - [18] - Quote That was more or less the development system in beta. Didn't work for ****, just slowed down progress while changing how everything is broken. Some details can be ignored
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2311	Posted - 2015.05.10 00:41:00 - [19] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: As an end user, I would love it. Makes a lot of common sense, doesn't it? I suspect, though Rattati could never admit it, that the ones at CCP controlling the purse strings, have mandated that work on DUST should be focused on action items that generate interest and revenue going forward in perpetuity. My own personal speculation. My speculation: Dust 514 is now CCP Z's marketing model testbed. Now? Sheet son, apex release and quafe treats were the start of Z revealing himself as the puppet master of monies. Better netcoding and plugged memory leaks. Last pieces of the broken puzlzle.
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 1357	Posted - 2015.05.10 01:53:00 - [20] - Quote Won't happen unfortunately. It takes them very long just to test things. Finding a solution takes three times more. Caldari Loyalist thecreaturehub fan

Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 9988	Posted - 2015.05.10 02:12:00 - [21] - Quote I could stand for an entire patch dedicated to bugs, large and small. Perhaps a second patch focusing on optimization. I don't see it happening though. The reality is Dust 514 does not offer enough content to generate consistent, steady profit on it's own merit. Every patch must have something that drives aurum sales. Without aurum sales CCP cannot justify keeping Dust 514 online. @Ripley_Riley "Ripley > Soraya" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Golden Day Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1685	Posted - 2015.05.10 02:14:00 - [22] - Quote We can give more money to CCP by letting boosters be traded "Dust came into New Eden with a hugeass battle, Dust can leave New Eden with a hugeass battle" Scheneighnay McBob
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES 609	Posted - 2015.05.10 02:18:00 - [23] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP put new content and balancing on hold for a month or two to work solely on nothing but bug fixes? they did try that but they ended up making legion instead
Tech Ohm Eaven Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 1792	Posted - 2015.05.10 04:42:00 - [24] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP put new content and balancing on hold for a month or two to work solely on nothing but bug fixes? ***** please Its a business When profits outnumber debts then dust 514 lives When debts outnumber profits then dust 514 dies Remember when we had a single build then for the next six months Ccp said they were doing bug fixes? Yeah._._.Lol._.The checks in the mail
Tech Ohm Eaven Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 1792	Posted - 2015.05.10 04:45:00 - [25] - Quote TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP put new content and balancing on hold for a month or two to work solely on nothing but bug fixes? they did try that but they ended up making legion instead Ccp tried bug fixes for six months and Brandon Laurino quit
Tech Ohm Eaven Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 1792	Posted - 2015.05.10 04:46:00 - [26] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: I could stand for an entire patch dedicated to bugs, large and small. Perhaps a second patch focusing on optimization. I don't see it happening though. The reality is Dust 514 does not offer enough content to generate consistent, steady profit on it's own merit. Every patch must have something that drives aurum sales. Without aurum sales CCP cannot justify keeping Dust 514 online. See this guy gets that Its a business
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 8548	Posted - 2015.05.10 05:04:00 - [27] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: I could stand for an entire patch dedicated to bugs, large and small. Perhaps a second patch focusing on optimization. I don't see it happening though. The reality is Dust 514 does not offer enough content to generate consistent, steady profit on it's own merit. Every patch must have something that drives aurum sales. Without aurum sales CCP cannot justify keeping Dust 514 online. See this guy gets that Its a business The question was "would we like it/be cool with it," not "do we consider it likely." There's never enough sh**posting going on, so let's add a few more teaspoons of the guy posting after me to the recipie!
Matius Indectus Shadow of the Raven 16	Posted - 2015.05.10 05:06:00 - [28] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: I could stand for an entire patch dedicated to bugs, large and small. Perhaps a second patch focusing on optimization. I don't see it happening though. The reality is Dust 514 does not offer enough content to generate consistent, steady profit on it's own merit. Every patch must have something that drives aurum sales. Without aurum sales CCP cannot justify keeping Dust 514 online. See this guy gets that Its a business That plays to the free to play mentality well, but I will pose a question to you. If the games shooting and core mechanics are not optimized and streamlined will anybody new to the game put up with it? The answer is no. The amount of weapons and gear doesn't play as big a role as you might think, other shooters have like CoD and battlefield have just as much content maybe even less in a way. I have said this a lot, how the game play as an FPS doesn't compare to its competitors. Dust will not retain players because noobs will just think the controls and core shooter mechanics suck. All the shiny officer and aur gear and weapons will not compensate for poorly designed core mechanics. It's like building a house, you don't start with walls and roofing, you start with the foundation. If you can't read in between the lines, then what makes you think you can write?
Tech Ohm Eaven Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 1792	Posted - 2015.05.10 05:23:00 - [29] - Quote Matius Indectus wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: I could stand for an entire patch dedicated to bugs, large and small. Perhaps a second patch focusing on optimization. I don't see it happening though. The reality is Dust 514 does not offer enough content to generate consistent, steady profit on it's own merit. Every patch must have something that drives aurum sales. Without aurum sales CCP cannot justify keeping Dust 514 online. See this guy gets that Its a business That plays to the free to play mentality well, but I will pose a question to you. If the games shooting and core mechanics are not optimized and streamlined will anybody new to the game put up with it? The answer is no. The amount of weapons and gear doesn't play as big a role as you might think, other shooters have like CoD and battlefield have just as much content maybe even less in a way. I have said this a lot, how the game play as an FPS doesn't compare to its competitors. Dust will not retain players because noobs will just think the controls and core shooter mechanics suck. All the shiny officer and aur gear and weapons will not compensate for poorly designed core mechanics. It's like building a house, you don't start with walls and roofing, you start with the foundation. No You start with a ft2 sustainable business plan that includes plenty of carrots instead sticks i.e. Warframe Bugfixes and new content expansion simultaneously on that game Versus Ccp ? Please ._.Two years ago folks wanted to PAY for custom area nameplate on suits and vehicles Ccp said no Folks wanted custom colors Ccp said no Folks wanted to PAY for custom laser colors Ccp said no Folks wanted to PAY for clan tag on suit and vehicle Ccp said no Ccp needs to get schooled on ft2 sustainable business plan for a console that includes increased playerbase
Tech Ohm Eaven Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 1792	Posted - 2015.05.10 05:29:00 - [30] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: I could stand for an entire patch dedicated to bugs, large and small. Perhaps a second patch focusing on optimization. I don't see it happening though. The reality is Dust 514 does not offer enough content to generate consistent, steady profit on it's own merit. Every patch must have something that drives aurum sales. Without aurum sales CCP cannot justify keeping Dust 514 online. See this guy gets that Its a business The question was "would we like it/be cool with it," not "do we consider it likely." The problem is Ccp only listens to server player numbers I hope they are listening to my ps4 only game play along with by now 23 million ps4 console games players



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