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Swiss Forsaken Scrubs Anonymous 4	Posted - 2015.04.29 01:06:00 - [1] - Quote If you tank you may have noticed that railgun installations automatically fire at your tank now without someone using them. This is a major change that I didn't see listed anywhere in the patch notes and as far as I know wasn't even talked about before the release of WL 1.1. This is a major change to tank gameplay and it's definitely not a change for the better. We don't need even more proto rails hitting our tanks from the redline.
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 1098	Posted - 2015.04.29 01:14:00 - [2] - Quote So let me get this straight, an installation that would in the enemies redline, which is there for defensive purposes, is blowing up your tanks? I don't see a problem here. Also I'm just going to put my bathtub over here, I'll be back when its full. I find your lack of heaviness... disturbing...
DUST Fiend 16774	Posted - 2015.04.29 01:15:00 - [3] - Quote Wait, they finally fixed railgun installations? I'll have to check that out, that'll be nice. I was getting pretty sick of just rolling up to Installations and killing them since they refused to fire back. *"My bitter is showing. I must retreat to the berry patch."* STUFF
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1472	Posted - 2015.04.29 01:24:00 - [4] - Quote The original issue was the rail installations had near instantaneous rotation with 100% accuracy. Which they used to destroy derpships constantly. That automatic behavior was eliminated as was the infinitely firing missile turrets having infinite range. If the rail turrets are enabled, enforcing the militia level turret rotation speed would balance their effectiveness. Two vehicles can, and should, confuse the AI. One attacks while the other reloads and the turret has to s-l-o-w-l-y turn to the other target. I have complained more than once that I want to hack Their Turret with the insta-rotation operation. Forget tanks, that rail gun turret is what I want. Not the POS that it turns back into whenever it gets hacked. Stupid C++ and bad programmers with 'new' objects. MOG (My Other Game) any turret stays in the position it was in last, hacked or not. The turret isn't pointed in some off target area if you jump out to kill the red coming at you. Only to find the barrel is now pointed behind you, again. My favorite tank is a Lightning. Just sayin.
BAD FURRY Oh No You Didn't 857	Posted - 2015.04.29 01:26:00 - [5] - Quote Swiss Forsaken wrote: If you tank you may have noticed that railgun installations automatically fire at your tank now without someone using them. This is a major change that I didn't see listed anywhere in the patch notes and as far as I know wasn't even talked about before the release of WL 1.1. This is a major change to tank gameplay and it's definitely not a change for the better. We don't need even more proto rails hitting our tanks from the redline. its a fix im happy Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2749	Posted - 2015.04.29 01:36:00 - [6] - Quote Swiss Forsaken wrote: If you tank you may have noticed that railgun installations automatically fire at your tank now without someone using them. This is a major change that I didn't see listed anywhere in the patch notes and as far as I know wasn't even talked about before the release of WL 1.1. This is a major change to tank gameplay and it's definitely not a change for the better. We don't need even more proto rails hitting our tanks from the redline. Damn buddy. When was the last time you played the game? This is the case since Uprising 1.0 at least. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 21419	Posted - 2015.04.29 01:41:00 - [7] - Quote Ah, I forgot that. We fixed the Railguns and Missile Turrets, now fire on vehicles within a radius, unprovked and always return fire. This was intended many hotfixes ago, but needed a client change that we have now. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Scheneighnay McBob And the ButtPirates 6272	Posted - 2015.04.29 01:52:00 - [8] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Ah, I forgot that. We fixed the Railguns and Missile Turrets, now fire on vehicles within a radius, unprovked and always return fire. This was intended many hotfixes ago, but needed a client change that we have now. I was about to say, wasn't this implemented when turrets were changed? Some details can be ignored
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18585	Posted - 2015.04.29 02:08:00 - [9] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Ah, I forgot that. We fixed the Railguns and Missile Turrets, now fire on vehicles within a radius, unprovked and always return fire. This was intended many hotfixes ago, but needed a client change that we have now. What kind of aggro range do they have? Please tell me that there won't be any redline railgun aggros. "MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!" - Mobius Wyvern

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 21424	Posted - 2015.04.29 02:15:00 - [10] - Quote True Adamance wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Ah, I forgot that. We fixed the Railguns and Missile Turrets, now fire on vehicles within a radius, unprovked and always return fire. This was intended many hotfixes ago, but needed a client change that we have now. What kind of aggro range do they have? Please tell me that there won't be any redline railgun aggros. 70 meters I believe, or something around that. They are meant as point defense "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 582	Posted - 2015.04.29 02:24:00 - [11] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Ah, I forgot that. We fixed the Railguns and Missile Turrets, now fire on vehicles within a radius, unprovked and always return fire. This was intended many hotfixes ago, but needed a client change that we have now. Why only vehicles? ADS Ramming Revenge! Plasma Cannon Rampage
ROTFL Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 87	Posted - 2015.04.29 02:29:00 - [12] - Quote Juno Tristan wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Ah, I forgot that. We fixed the Railguns and Missile Turrets, now fire on vehicles within a radius, unprovked and always return fire. This was intended many hotfixes ago, but needed a client change that we have now. Why only vehicles? You want it to shoot at foot soldiers? Are you CRAZY? No one would be able to get near them.... Blast ur azz off the planet at 50 yards. Knowing is half the battle! The other half involves guns! GI JOE!
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 545	Posted - 2015.04.29 02:30:00 - [13] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: True Adamance wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Ah, I forgot that. We fixed the Railguns and Missile Turrets, now fire on vehicles within a radius, unprovked and always return fire. This was intended many hotfixes ago, but needed a client change that we have now. What kind of aggro range do they have? Please tell me that there won't be any redline railgun aggros. 70 meters I believe, or something around that. They are meant as point defense WAAAAYY!! Rock on, ROCK ON! And a cool "ooops, I forgot to tell ya" surprise. Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.
thor424 Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 54	Posted - 2015.04.29 02:33:00 - [14] - Quote I learned about this the hard way Thor's Emporium
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1262	Posted - 2015.04.29 02:35:00 - [15] - Quote Makes most LAV's that much more useless now. Your game is terrible, you should feel bad.
Thumb Green The Valyrian Mercenary Army 2333	Posted - 2015.04.29 02:40:00 - [16] - Quote Juno Tristan wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Ah, I forgot that. We fixed the Railguns and Missile Turrets, now fire on vehicles within a radius, unprovked and always return fire. This was intended many hotfixes ago, but needed a client change that we have now. Why only vehicles? Because they have large turrets on them instead of small turrets, they still return fire on infantry though. I got a lot of stuff you want and could just have if it weren't for the trade tax. Rated [TV-MA]
Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 582	Posted - 2015.04.29 02:41:00 - [17] - Quote ROTFL wrote: Juno Tristan wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Ah, I forgot that. We fixed the Railguns and Missile Turrets, now fire on vehicles within a radius, unprovked and always return fire. This was intended many hotfixes ago, but needed a client change that we have now. Why only vehicles? You want it to shoot at foot soldiers? Are you CRAZY? No one would be able to get near them.... Blast ur azz off the planet at 50 yards. But non redline installations start of neutral so hacking them would have a benefit to the team no just your 50wp It wouldn't target cloaked scouts which strengthens their non slaying role ADS Ramming Revenge! Plasma Cannon Rampage
DUST Fiend 16775	Posted - 2015.04.29 02:48:00 - [18] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Ah, I forgot that. We fixed the Railguns and Missile Turrets, now fire on vehicles within a radius, unprovked and always return fire. This was intended many hotfixes ago, but needed a client change that we have now. That explains why that missile turret had such a hard-on for me *"My bitter is showing. I must retreat to the berry patch."* STUFF
Swiss Forsaken Scrubs Anonymous 5	Posted - 2015.04.29 11:20:00 - [19] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Swiss Forsaken wrote: If you tank you may have noticed that railgun installations automatically fire at your tank now without someone using them. This is a major change that I didn't see listed anywhere in the patch notes and as far as I know wasn't even talked about before the release of WL 1.1. This is a major change to tank gameplay and it's definitely not a change for the better. We don't need even more proto rails hitting our tanks from the redline. Damn buddy. When was the last time you played the game? This is the case since Uprising 1.0 at least. When's the last time you played the game buddy? As of 4/27/2015 railgun installations didn't shoot unless someone was using them.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 8283	Posted - 2015.04.29 11:24:00 - [20] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Makes most LAV's that much more useless now. Dunno what problem you've been having, I've yet to have an installation put one of my LAVs down. AV

Swiss Forsaken Scrubs Anonymous 5	Posted - 2015.04.29 11:26:00 - [21] - Quote The problem isn't that the rails are auto firing, it's that the rails do a ridiculous amount of damage to have so much armor, a rail installation will pop my tank with a hardener on and 4200 armor within 5-6 shots, while I have to take several more shots at it to destroy it, either nerf the damage...or cut down the hp. The thing does as much damage as a proto rail turret...it's basically a stationary proto rail tank with 10k armor that WILL kill you from 300 meters if so much as tapped with a shot from a blaster.
Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1195	Posted - 2015.04.29 11:27:00 - [22] - Quote Sounds like a great fix to me.
Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1195	Posted - 2015.04.29 11:29:00 - [23] - Quote Swiss Forsaken wrote: The problem isn't that the rails are auto firing, it's that the rails do a ridiculous amount of damage to have so much armor, a rail installation will pop my tank with a hardener on and 4200 armor within 5-6 shots, while I have to take several more shots at it to destroy it, either nerf the damage...or cut down the hp. The thing does as much damage as a proto rail turret...it's basically a stationary proto rail tank with 10k armor that WILL kill you from 300 meters if so much as tapped with a shot from a blaster. It-¦s a big gun. Deal with it.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 21475	Posted - 2015.04.29 11:32:00 - [24] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: Swiss Forsaken wrote: The problem isn't that the rails are auto firing, it's that the rails do a ridiculous amount of damage to have so much armor, a rail installation will pop my tank with a hardener on and 4200 armor within 5-6 shots, while I have to take several more shots at it to destroy it, either nerf the damage...or cut down the hp. The thing does as much damage as a proto rail turret...it's basically a stationary proto rail tank with 10k armor that WILL kill you from 300 meters if so much as tapped with a shot from a blaster. It-¦s a big gun. Deal with it. Or avoid, it, or have someone hack it. It's meant to be a defense, area of denial, structure. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Swiss Forsaken Scrubs Anonymous 5	Posted - 2015.04.29 11:36:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: Swiss Forsaken wrote: The problem isn't that the rails are auto firing, it's that the rails do a ridiculous amount of damage to have so much armor, a rail installation will pop my tank with a hardener on and 4200 armor within 5-6 shots, while I have to take several more shots at it to destroy it, either nerf the damage...or cut down the hp. The thing does as much damage as a proto rail turret...it's basically a stationary proto rail tank with 10k armor that WILL kill you from 300 meters if so much as tapped with a shot from a blaster. It-¦s a big gun. Deal with it. Or avoid, it, or have someone hack it. It's meant to be a defense, area of denial, structure. You could at least make the thing miss every once in a blue moon.
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 1088	Posted - 2015.04.29 11:37:00 - [26] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Ah, I forgot that. We fixed the Railguns and Missile Turrets, now fire on vehicles within a radius, unprovked and always return fire. This was intended many hotfixes ago, but needed a client change that we have now. I know they were always intented to work this way but with all these changes to tanks they feel very strong against tanks... A single blaster tank can barely take out an unmanned rail installation alone at close range. And I'm talking about full proto tank. And that tank needs to pop most if not all it's cooldowns to be able to take it down. Now I'm not going to go into saying that they are OP but I want to know if they are intented to be that strong?
Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 582	Posted - 2015.04.29 11:44:00 - [27] - Quote The problem is it doesn't lead to good gameplay if installations target only vehicles call in railgun destroy all installations recall tank bring in ADS/blaster tank if installations target vehicles and infantry run whatever you want because infantry have an incentive to keep installations blue ADS Ramming Revenge! Plasma Cannon Rampage
STYLIE77 KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 623	Posted - 2015.04.29 11:51:00 - [28] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Ah, I forgot that. We fixed the Railguns and Missile Turrets, now fire on vehicles within a radius, unprovked and always return fire. This was intended many hotfixes ago, but needed a client change that we have now. It isn't just tanks... before you could destroy rail turrets with forge or swarms and have no fear. Now, it is a very deadly game of avoiding being one shotted as infantry. Firefights around an enemy rail turret are much more interesting as even a stray bullet may lead to being killed by an unmanned turret. LOL, and I am perfectly fine with that. http://caughtyouflinching.ytmnd.com/
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 1314	Posted - 2015.04.29 12:05:00 - [29] - Quote Cuz instalations are so cool, why don't put in redline sniper turret that will automaticly pick off targets within 200m? How cool would that be, right? Caldari Loyalist thecreaturehub fan Mejt0 Sale List
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18606	Posted - 2015.04.29 12:14:00 - [30] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: Swiss Forsaken wrote: The problem isn't that the rails are auto firing, it's that the rails do a ridiculous amount of damage to have so much armor, a rail installation will pop my tank with a hardener on and 4200 armor within 5-6 shots, while I have to take several more shots at it to destroy it, either nerf the damage...or cut down the hp. The thing does as much damage as a proto rail turret...it's basically a stationary proto rail tank with 10k armor that WILL kill you from 300 meters if so much as tapped with a shot from a blaster. It-¦s a big gun. Deal with it. And yet when I say "hey guys this gun is big right and happens to have a ** tonne more destructive power than the forgegun can we please have some AoE kinetic shockwaves" then people look at me and reply with a "what the ** True tank rounds don't explode!" "MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!" - Mobius Wyvern



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