With the player count still not seeing any rise, I feel that some people cannot walk away as they invested so much time and money that it would break them. I have dropped easily a minimum of $200 on this game, but I am not going to allow myself to be a prisoner of that number. I have spent many hours and yet, I no longer hold myself hostage to that. Dust is quite high on the delete list if I ever need any space on the drive. I hope that people are not still playing because they feel obligated to. No matter what the reason, if you are feeling obligated to play the game due to investments, you are no longer having fun.

Walk away when it stops being fun. Its the only data CCP needs

I keep hearing about "new player retention" and how "there are so and so many new players." I would love to know how people know this. CCP can make the statement "there are X many accounts made weekly" but if those accounts never play more than 10 games, they are not new players. Jeez, people have even been known to farm the academy.

New player retention is up though (still hammering on issues present though), and new matchmaking has largely been incredibly positive for veterans - either bringing them back or keeping them. They're looking at it and AquarHEAD is tweaking it every day.

Everyone with any sense knew that population segregation would cause things to get worse before they got better, but things are getting better, every day.

You can't walk away

With the player count still not seeing any rise, I feel that some people cannot walk away as they invested so much time and money that it would break them. I have dropped easily a minimum of $200 on this game, but I am not going to allow myself to be a prisoner of that number. I have spent many hours and yet, I no longer hold myself hostage to that. Dust is quite high on the delete list if I ever need any space on the drive. I hope that people are not still playing because they feel obligated to. No matter what the reason, if you are feeling obligated to play the game due to investments, you are no longer having fun.

Walk away when it stops being fun. Its the only data CCP needs

Jeez what are you going to tell me next that I should'nt wash my BMW 3 times a day? or throw my girlfriend out of a moving car when she spills **** in it? PFFT!

I stopped with this game 2 weeks ago when I came back to Eve.There is no point playing dead game on a dead console.

One question...

Does your BMW cost more than my village?

Ok Rattati just got extra bonus points from me for that link



And , I don't think anyone is holding on because of inestment. I certainly am not.. I am holding back on spending more , as I invested a good bit. It was easy as hell for me to go away for a year. I have done the same with Eve , which I was kinda still am as the character doesn't just vanish.. since 2006.

I stay around, because I enjoy the setting we are in, the gameplay can actually be quite fun if you let it, and sometimes you just need to be around a bunch of other asshat ego trippin douchebags to not feel like such an azz yourself

Long live CCP , long live Eve Online , and may Dust forever grow with them!!!

You can't walk away

No but i can upgrade to a next gen system.

I can tell you that at this point I am only still here for two reasons:

1) the friends I have made that have actually stuck around.

2) the absolutely STUPID amount of time and money I have dumped into this game. Honestly I feel like as long as I keep playing then all of that remains validated so I am not an idiot.



I was actually just thinking about how the changes to PC are useless because we have such a terrible player base. No matter what changes are made a small group of people will always run it. This is due to the fact that no one has the ability to recruit PC ready players as there just are not any aside from the try hards who just run to the corp of the week.

I can tell you that at this point I am only still here for two reasons:

1) the friends I have made that have actually stuck around.

2) the absolutely STUPID amount of time and money I have dumped into this game. Honestly I feel like as long as I keep playing then all of that remains validated so I am not an idiot.



I was actually just thinking about how the changes to PC are useless because we have such a terrible player base. No matter what changes are made a small group of people will always run it. This is due to the fact that no one has the ability to recruit PC ready players as there just are not any aside from the try hards who just run to the corp of the week.

With the player count still not seeing any rise, I feel that some people cannot walk away as they invested so much time and money that it would break them. I have dropped easily a minimum of $200 on this game, but I am not going to allow myself to be a prisoner of that number. I have spent many hours and yet, I no longer hold myself hostage to that. Dust is quite high on the delete list if I ever need any space on the drive. I hope that people are not still playing because they feel obligated to. No matter what the reason, if you are feeling obligated to play the game due to investments, you are no longer having fun.

Walk away when it stops being fun. Its the only data CCP needs

No but i can upgrade to a next gen system.

I just find that a bit silly, the idea of holding on because of investment.. do you keep your soda bottles and empty cheeseburger wrappers? Doubt it, so like.. you bought your entertainment , used it.. it doesn't have to hold a grip on you.

With the player count still not seeing any rise, I feel that some people cannot walk away as they invested so much time and money that it would break them. I have dropped easily a minimum of $200 on this game, but I am not going to allow myself to be a prisoner of that number. I have spent many hours and yet, I no longer hold myself hostage to that. Dust is quite high on the delete list if I ever need any space on the drive. I hope that people are not still playing because they feel obligated to. No matter what the reason, if you are feeling obligated to play the game due to investments, you are no longer having fun.

Walk away when it stops being fun. Its the only data CCP needs

A good bit of that INVESTMENT was made when we were all being sold on the "10 year plan" and the "MMOFPS of New Eden".

I was trying to not be an ass and say that I am only hanging on to the thought that maybe this game will turn into something besides a lobby shooter so that I can finally let go of the feeling that CCP totally boned me and hundreds of other people with what turned out to be one failure after another until they gave up and basically said okay its not going to happen.

I have gone through tons of strongboxes and felt a bit beat in the head every time but I kept buying keys because I enjoyed opening boxes and seeing if I was going to continue to get beat over the head which I did until I reached a breaking point but I am not talking about that money. I am talking about the money that was spent on the selling point of an open market, having high enough SP to go into the end game content, having a REAL link to Eve, and many other ideas that are long gone.


There are a few ugly syndromes that could be related to why many of us stay around but I will save those for a conversation that will not get me banned.

You can't walk away

I'm beyond tired of pubs. Being matched with supposed veterans who don't carry uplinks, don't kill uplinks, don't shoot at red dots, don't hack points, don't bring out AV, and on and on.

But I seem to go up against teams with drop ships maintaining high ground. Tanks. Infantry moving around. Even enough left to camp on turrets.

But it's all good, I'll play tomorrow and the matchmaking will put me in the boring matches where people quit right away.

Then once every 2 weeks or so I'll get a decent match.

We need to squad up bruh o7

You don't want to squad with me.

I only get ****** matches.

We've had some good matches together

With the player count still not seeing any rise, I feel that some people cannot walk away as they invested so much time and money that it would break them. I have dropped easily a minimum of $200 on this game, but I am not going to allow myself to be a prisoner of that number. I have spent many hours and yet, I no longer hold myself hostage to that. Dust is quite high on the delete list if I ever need any space on the drive. I hope that people are not still playing because they feel obligated to. No matter what the reason, if you are feeling obligated to play the game due to investments, you are no longer having fun.

Walk away when it stops being fun. Its the only data CCP needs

I bet you this guy sucks at this game I BET YOU!!!


2 MIL ISK!!

You can't walk away

Shut up! You can't tell me what to do! You're not my gym teacher!

You can't walk away

I've read this OP 3 times now, at a good 10 minutes apart from each attempt and I still cannot get the mindset here.

I get the state of hesitation and even fear in leaving something that one has invested considerable amounts of whatever into. I can see this in home-improvement, car repairs, relationships (how many struggle to maintain dysfunctional relationships in spite of knowing that it's just not working for no other reason of having spent "time in"!), but dude. This is a video game. Money in is entertainment out. If you're still forking out money after NOT enjoying the game, there are other problems at work here that a game forum ain't fixing.

This is entertainment. Period. Spend money to entertain much like you would subbing to NetFlix. The moment it stops entertaining, then stop spending money and take a break. Worst case? Leave. I am dumbfounded by comments like "...invested so much time and money that it would break them" and "hold myself hostage." Seriously? Who the ferk is having a mental meltdown over a f2p video game?! Sure, there are outliers where kids sit on their arse 24/7 for a few days and start twitching from dehydration, but that's not the norm and you know what I mean. Hell, my ex once freaked the hell out, cussed me then threw a bottle of water at me in a foreign country in front of 3 cops over the suggestion of mine to buy a bus ticket. My point is, there are those rare special cases that require... let's just say a unique level of expectation. Ultimately though, it's a game!

Are people so insecure that there is a need to come here on a forum trying to rally others around to take a stand against paper dragons to feel better about one's financial irresponsibility? I say irresponsibility because in order to create an emotional vacuum enough so that the feeling of guilt and obligation takes over the rational instinct to just push away when done suggests a serious lack of self-control. Who the hell is obligated to play a f2p? You spent some cash? Then burn through your in-game currency and be done with it. If it's hitting hard enough to create any sense of a hostage crisis, chances are ya probably shouldn't have put in your CC# to begin with. Msg me in game though, and I'll be more than happy to be more sympathetic. With an AUR protofit. Funny thing is, I suck at this game and would lose the loadout lol. Who CARES!?


TL/DR
In the classic EvE fashion of "don't fly what you can't afford to lose" so too should it be true: "don't spend rent on entertainment."


to pull it all back to point though, seriously: I'm enjoying it. The moment I stop enjoying it is the moment I stop playing ...the game. No need for sympathies. I've spent what I've spent and have gotten my entertainment out of it---at a far better cost-to-entertainment ratio than going to a theater.


p.s. Sorry for the ranting. Just... that OP. 4rlz?

I bet you this guy sucks at this game I BET YOU!!!


2 MIL ISK!!

It's not even a matter of sucking.

Several people suck at this game, such as myself, yet still love the game.

Skill is not a pre-req for enjoyment. (Although it helps)

I've tried walking away

it doesn't work

Wait a minute... the 80's happened in Iceland too?!

[quote=CCP Rattati]You [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQuddDfXzfs]can't walk away https://youtu.be/oE0Dmcguoyk

wow

The guy singing in that video looks like some in an 80's, uhm, well an 80's naughty video.

Jon Reremy?

wow

TL;Got the gist

your post is proof of my statement. You get so invested that you try to justify it, when it is not so.

You can't walk away

With the player count still not seeing any rise, I feel that some people cannot walk away as they invested so much time and money that it would break them. I have dropped easily a minimum of $200 on this game, but I am not going to allow myself to be a prisoner of that number. I have spent many hours and yet, I no longer hold myself hostage to that. Dust is quite high on the delete list if I ever need any space on the drive. I hope that people are not still playing because they feel obligated to. No matter what the reason, if you are feeling obligated to play the game due to investments, you are no longer having fun.

Walk away when it stops being fun. Its the only data CCP needs