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Daddrobit You Can Call Me Daddy 1423	Posted - 2015.04.23 05:54:00 - [1] - Quote Is truly astounding! Was in a match earlier, started out with 5 solo folks on our side vs 14 of theirs with a corp squad of at least 4, and yet when the map barely loads in, immediately 2 reds leave the match! Why do folks hate this map so much that they will go so far as to give up a free win? By the way, the match ended 4 vs 15, a squad of 3 joined mid match on their team, GG Scotty... O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
The Eristic Dust 90210 912	Posted - 2015.04.23 06:07:00 - [2] - Quote It's a horrible, horrible map for Skirm/Dom, especially in these dark days of the CalaMario. I'll give it one go per night, then I'm out. Reality is the original Rorschach. Verily! So much for all that.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 548	Posted - 2015.04.23 06:07:00 - [3] - Quote Daddrobit wrote: Is truly astounding! Was in a match earlier, started out with 5 solo folks on our side vs 14 of theirs with a corp squad of at least 4, and yet when the map barely loads in, immediately 2 reds leave the match! Why do folks hate this map so much that they will go so far as to give up a free win? By the way, the match ended 4 vs 15, a squad of 3 joined mid match on their team, GG Scotty... Because playing the same map 8 - 10 times in a row is truly terrible. Playing a map for the 10th time while also trying to chase around the 2 out of 5 enemies who actually spawned in is just a huge no way. I truly believe that the train map needs to be removed from rotation for a couple of weeks so that we can get a break from it.
DUST Fiend 16542	Posted - 2015.04.23 06:12:00 - [4] - Quote If I join a team that has double the players than the enemy, I leave. Assuming I notice at least, I literally NEVER check the player board till after the match lol. *"My bitter is showing. I must retreat to the berry patch."* STUFF
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 23398	Posted - 2015.04.23 06:12:00 - [5] - Quote That map is just awful. Supreme Forum Warrior Gallente Guide
castba Rogue Instincts Ashtar Federation 848	Posted - 2015.04.23 06:15:00 - [6] - Quote Everyone liked the map when it was first put into rotation and I still think it is a good map, the issue is that it is loaded far too frequently. There are quite a few maps, so why the lack of variety? "When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 792	Posted - 2015.04.23 06:18:00 - [7] - Quote The map is too one dimensional, it's still glitched in several spots, and jumpy suits made it worse because you spend the entire map chasing them while fending off splash dmg. "Anybody order chaos?"
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 548	Posted - 2015.04.23 06:21:00 - [8] - Quote castba wrote: Everyone liked the map when it was first put into rotation and I still think it is a good map, the issue is that it is loaded far too frequently. There are quite a few maps, so why the lack of variety? This is strictly a theory. I believe when the MCC map was added at a very low rotation a bug in the map rotation caused the train map to fill in the gap whenever the MCC map would have been loaded in an equal rotation.
Daddrobit You Can Call Me Daddy 1423	Posted - 2015.04.23 08:22:00 - [9] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: castba wrote: Everyone liked the map when it was first put into rotation and I still think it is a good map, the issue is that it is loaded far too frequently. There are quite a few maps, so why the lack of variety? This is strictly a theory. I believe when the MCC map was added at a very low rotation a bug in the map rotation caused the train map to fill in the gap whenever the MCC map would have been loaded in an equal rotation. It's confirmed that the train map has a slightly higher appearance rate, and the MCC map was added "as a test" with a super low rate, both were intentional. Regardless, as much as I do enjoy the train map myself, I would like to see the others more often as well. O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 4503	Posted - 2015.04.23 08:29:00 - [10] - Quote Considering that you can get that map 3 times in a row..... I like it, but everything has a limit. Shifted in time, your tomorrow, my today.

Edgar Reinhart Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 96	Posted - 2015.04.23 08:41:00 - [11] - Quote I agree that it pops up a bit too much but I think that it is a much much better Dom map than whatever that Cal one is with the Ramps down to the underground point and the hole at the back to drop down on. 'Fun' if you're a heavy\logi team but once the points are locked down it just becomes lemmings throwing themselves against a brick wall. Gal Research is similar but slightly less frustrating if you're not HMG'd up. Train Map at least has some variety and opportunities for hackers etc around the map.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 20843	Posted - 2015.04.23 09:43:00 - [12] - Quote It will be reduced, after W1.1. We are in a deployment lockdown. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Genral69 death Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 176	Posted - 2015.04.23 10:02:00 - [13] - Quote Please reduce it alot. I have very little time to play during the week due to work. This map comes up way to often, on Wednesday I believe it came up 4 out of the 7 battles I did. I'm sorry I resuse to play that damn map and will back out every time. Please just get rid of that damn map please , that or make it rare to get . Do a survey and see how many people actually like it compaired to how many cant stand it . I'm sure theres people that like it but I'm positive more people cant stand it than like it General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
STYLIE77 KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 575	Posted - 2015.04.23 10:34:00 - [14] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: It will be reduced, after W1.1. We are in a deployment lockdown. I hope so, I am so sick of playing this map half the night... http://caughtyouflinching.ytmnd.com/
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2717	Posted - 2015.04.23 10:43:00 - [15] - Quote I have an intense dislike for the map due to the alpha socket and how annoying myo fits get inside it. "You mean we can jump anywhere, have splash damage weapons, spam uplinks in spots that only other myo fits can get to and if we're not noticed punch people for 700 damage? how could this be poorly thought out at all!" Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
DiablosMajora 117	Posted - 2015.04.23 10:57:00 - [16] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: It will be reduced, after W1.1. We are in a deployment lockdown. Ever consider pre-match map voting or selection by players? Prepare your angus
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 6224	Posted - 2015.04.23 11:52:00 - [17] - Quote DiablosMajora wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: It will be reduced, after W1.1. We are in a deployment lockdown. Ever consider pre-match map voting or selection by players? That would probably require a bit more coding than they have the manpower for right now. I support Keshava for Gallente Specialist HAV R.I.P. Kesha
Mex-0 592	Posted - 2015.04.23 12:02:00 - [18] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: That map is just awful. I don't think it's THAT bad. I just hang around outside of the station to pick up kills and put down uplinks. (Yes, I'm a WP *****) PLCer-in-training
RD Burns Third Degree Burns. 27	Posted - 2015.04.23 12:32:00 - [19] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: It will be reduced, after W1.1. We are in a deployment lockdown. Could you also please take a look at maps that don't seem to come up in rotation at all anymore, I can't even remember what they were it's been so long since I played them.
Slave of MORTE 404	Posted - 2015.04.23 13:29:00 - [20] - Quote castba wrote: Everyone liked the map when it was first put into rotation and I still think it is a good map, the issue is that it is loaded far too frequently. There are quite a few maps, so why the lack of variety? Exactly it is a solid map it's just stale as **** I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina

Mr Machine Guns 1087	Posted - 2015.04.23 13:33:00 - [21] - Quote Just enforce a penalty if a player leave a game, for example if a player leave a domination they can't join a new one until the one they joined and left has ended, but there should be some times when this penalty should not be enforced like if your team has 8 or less guys or if the match has already started
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6370	Posted - 2015.04.23 13:34:00 - [22] - Quote I like the train map. But I agree that it should go aback to the same frequency in the rotation as other maps. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Mex-0 594	Posted - 2015.04.23 13:34:00 - [23] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: Just enforce a penalty if a player leave a game, for example if a player leave a domination they can't join a new one until the one they joined has ended But what if they leave because some squad members didn't join the battle? Then do they have to suffer 15-20 minutes because of a glitch? PLCer-in-training
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 149	Posted - 2015.04.23 13:53:00 - [24] - Quote Mex-0 wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Just enforce a penalty if a player leave a game, for example if a player leave a domination they can't join a new one until the one they joined has ended But what if they leave because some squad members didn't join the battle? Then do they have to suffer 15-20 minutes because of a glitch? lol you are forgetting about the "random" disconnected from psn or signed out issue. Plus Mr Machine Gun if you go into a battle where it is 2-6 vs 11-16 will you stay? that is just a waste of 15-20 mins waiting on a red to kill or trying to fight out of your redline as it is being camped by 8+ reds using everything from tanks, sniper rifles, speed runner to run deep in your redline just to kill you and kill themselves in the process.
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion. 363	Posted - 2015.04.23 14:48:00 - [25] - Quote With all these mega(wo)men jumping n shooting..... Tearing us up with the mass driver, and when they get the assault upgrade it's like dealing with a metal blade... If there were swords... id cry... Too many Zero's would appear. And on that map? There's no escape... Just boom boom boom. Ah. Megaman. The ADS tourney! Join today!
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 538	Posted - 2015.04.23 16:00:00 - [26] - Quote HmmmGÇª. I'm siding with those who believe the "Trainyard" map is a good, righteous map---both in Domination and in Skirmish mode. The fact that the map is active too frequently compared with other maps is obviously due to whatever internal processes CCP is going through in their Igor-Laboratory, so there's little sense in criticizing them too much for it----they will adjust it as soon as they've finished what necessitated the "deployment lockdown" in the first place. All is good. But I think boredom or sense of futility in players only comes from inability (or flat refusal) to change our corny methods of competing for the map objectives. Even though I may carry the same sort of gear/deployables into the trainyard map, I WON'T rigidly use the same darn assault/defend methods in every session. If the reds charged straight for the Objective this time, and I see no one running with me to snatch the Objective before them, I may deploy equipment near the Objective to "encourage" reinforcement. If the reds came with Forge Guns, or HMGs, Mass Drivers, etc, I can't really think of myself as a 'skilled' player if I am not interested in trying new experiments to counter this surprise weapon the enemy brought with him this time. Good players TRY to change-up their methods and adapt. If my fellow blues claim the Objective before I even join them, I may not put equipment down at all---especially if I see they seem to have the same deployables already set up---COOL. I'll stick with you guys and defend. Or I'll fall back and support you with the Installations, to stall the red vehicle assault I see massing at the top of the map. Or I'll circle around and try to shut down all red CRUs I can reach. Or I'll use uplinks to try to get behind the reds in their own staging area---and invite a Redline. So, how boring, or not worth fighting, the trainyard map becomes is really determined by us, not by the map, (not even by the red team, as much as we may often assume). And I'd hate to see a penalty for players needing to (or punking out and choosing to) leave the match. Maybe a "lock" that prevents you from voluntarily leaving after the first 120 seconds or soGÇª so the only way you can leave is to log out of the game entirely. But no penalty-punishment. They have the right to choose leaving, even if I may not always want them to. Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 3872	Posted - 2015.04.23 16:17:00 - [27] - Quote I boycott the train map and the huge 4 pt map religiously. Shield tanking is hard mode /period. > Check RND out here
Dreis Shadowweaver 0uter.Heaven Back and Forth 3014	Posted - 2015.04.23 18:52:00 - [28] - Quote RD Burns wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: It will be reduced, after W1.1. We are in a deployment lockdown. Could you also please take a look at maps that don't seem to come up in rotation at all anymore, I can't even remember what they were it's been so long since I played them. I miss Manus Peak... Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3 Day 7/30 exclusively Minja
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 1019	Posted - 2015.04.23 19:17:00 - [29] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: Just enforce a penalty if a player leave a game, for example if a player leave a domination they can't join a new one until the one they joined and left has ended, but there should be some times when this penalty should not be enforced like if your team has 8 or less guys or if the match has already started I agree, under most circumstances leaving a game should result in the match being recorded as a loss (forfeit) and any stat or isk gains being forfeit also. That said I also agree the rotation frequency for this particular map is off, it is waaay to common an experience to have it come up 4,5,6 times in a row. And then when there's a break and a different map comes up afterwards its back to the trainmap again a bunch of times. Open-Beta Vet. Egbinger Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR
Ku Shala PIanet Express 1404	Posted - 2015.04.23 19:19:00 - [30] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Just enforce a penalty if a player leave a game, for example if a player leave a domination they can't join a new one until the one they joined and left has ended, but there should be some times when this penalty should not be enforced like if your team has 8 or less guys or if the match has already started I agree, under most circumstances leaving a game should result in the match being recorded as a loss (forfeit) and any stat or isk gains being forfeit also. That said I also agree the rotation frequency for this particular map is off, it is waaay to common an experience to have it come up 4,5,6 times in a row. And then when there's a break and a different map comes up afterwards its back to the trainmap again a bunch of times. what about disconnects/powerfails ect, there is no simple way to penalise (dirty word) players leaving a match *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (CK-0 Specialist x5)* Caldari Loyalist 22 230 780 sp in drop suit upgrades

el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 1019	Posted - 2015.04.23 19:31:00 - [31] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Just enforce a penalty if a player leave a game, for example if a player leave a domination they can't join a new one until the one they joined and left has ended, but there should be some times when this penalty should not be enforced like if your team has 8 or less guys or if the match has already started I agree, under most circumstances leaving a game should result in the match being recorded as a loss (forfeit) and any stat or isk gains being forfeit also. That said I also agree the rotation frequency for this particular map is off, it is waaay to common an experience to have it come up 4,5,6 times in a row. And then when there's a break and a different map comes up afterwards its back to the trainmap again a bunch of times. what about disconnects/powerfails ect, there is no simple way to penalise (dirty word) players leaving a match Sure there is: Correlate it with the use of the "Leave Battle" button. Active ditchers will be penalised. EzPz. DCs will have say, a minimum threshold, like the first 3 times is no penalty but after that, yeah you lose. (since we all know TQ/PSN instability is frequent, BUT it'll discourage ditchers from just powering off their PS3s to avoid penalties.) Start of match ditchers (squadmate didn't make it etc) losses won't affect since it's the start of the match so they haven't taken the field to do anything anyway. Open-Beta Vet. Egbinger Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR
J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 2762	Posted - 2015.04.23 19:41:00 - [32] - Quote Does a lil dance and walks out. The ButtPirates Now Accepting Applications. XD TheYoutube
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 1123	Posted - 2015.04.23 20:51:00 - [33] - Quote It's a good map overall. I think there should be some ladders in the tunnel tho. Who cares what some sniper has to say. **--CCP, let's push for the license of Dust/Legion on both current Gen consoles-
All Gucci T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 223	Posted - 2015.04.24 04:07:00 - [34] - Quote RD Burns wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: It will be reduced, after W1.1. We are in a deployment lockdown. Could you also please take a look at maps that don't seem to come up in rotation at all anymore, I can't even remember what they were it's been so long since I played them. ^ what he said Director / Slayer / Emperor
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 3716	Posted - 2015.04.24 04:16:00 - [35] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: I have an intense dislike for the map due to the alpha socket and how annoying myo fits get inside it. "You mean we can jump anywhere, have splash damage weapons, spam uplinks in spots that only other myo fits can get to and if we're not noticed punch people for 700 damage? how could this be poorly thought out at all!" Shooting them helps. Flux grenades help. Locus grenades help. Mass Drivers, PLC, Flaylocks help. But by all means, whining is fine. Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons First to PM me with common name wins (no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)
sir RAVEN WING 3386	Posted - 2015.04.24 04:22:00 - [36] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: It will be reduced, after W1.1. We are in a deployment lockdown. Not too much! I love the map. PLC them when they look out over the letter. (Le me still using PLCs properly.) *"The sea is a mighty beast and I intend to conquer it." - Raul*
sir RAVEN WING 3386	Posted - 2015.04.24 04:24:00 - [37] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: I have an intense dislike for the map due to the alpha socket and how annoying myo fits get inside it. "You mean we can jump anywhere, have splash damage weapons, spam uplinks in spots that only other myo fits can get to and if we're not noticed punch people for 700 damage? how could this be poorly thought out at all!" Shooting them helps. Flux grenades help. Locus grenades help. Mass Drivers, PLC, Flaylocks help. But by all means, whining is fine. PLC shots will knock them out of the air. BPs too Sometimes a Flaylol (In which I later lol) Drivers are harder Grenades are harder I'd say use a automatic weapon against them. *"The sea is a mighty beast and I intend to conquer it." - Raul*
sir RAVEN WING 3386	Posted - 2015.04.24 04:27:00 - [38] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: RD Burns wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: It will be reduced, after W1.1. We are in a deployment lockdown. Could you also please take a look at maps that don't seem to come up in rotation at all anymore, I can't even remember what they were it's been so long since I played them. I miss Manus Peak... What Dreis said. *"The sea is a mighty beast and I intend to conquer it." - Raul*
Ku Shala PIanet Express 1407	Posted - 2015.04.24 14:00:00 - [39] - Quote maybe a starmap option to join these one sided matches for established squads to have challenges is in order with higher rewards, I know underdog bonuses have been discussed *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (CK-0 Specialist x5)* Caldari Loyalist 22 230 780 sp in drop suit upgrades
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 1025	Posted - 2015.04.24 18:11:00 - [40] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: maybe a starmap option to join these one sided matches for established squads to have challenges is in order with higher rewards, I know underdog bonuses have been discussed Triple pay for offsite reinforcements, I like it. Open-Beta Vet. Egbinger Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR

MrCriminal High Power 14	Posted - 2015.04.24 19:02:00 - [41] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: It will be reduced, after W1.1. We are in a deployment lockdown. Finally \(OoO)/ El Diablo 666
Mex-0 602	Posted - 2015.04.24 20:37:00 - [42] - Quote RD Burns wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: It will be reduced, after W1.1. We are in a deployment lockdown. Could you also please take a look at maps that don't seem to come up in rotation at all anymore, I can't even remember what they were it's been so long since I played them. Is this Big Burns' alt? PLCer-in-training


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