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        |  Daddrobit
 You Can Call Me Daddy
 
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      | Posted - 2015.04.23 05:54:00 -
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 Is truly astounding!
 
 Was in a match earlier, started out with 5 solo folks on our side vs 14 of theirs with a corp squad of at least 4, and yet when the map barely loads in, immediately 2 reds leave the match!
 
 Why do folks hate this map so much that they will go so far as to give up a free win?
 
 By the way, the match ended 4 vs 15, a squad of 3 joined mid match on their team, GG Scotty...
 
 O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny | 
      
      
        |  The Eristic
 Dust 90210
 
 912
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.23 06:07:00 -
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 It's a horrible, horrible map for Skirm/Dom, especially in these dark days of the CalaMario. I'll give it one go per night, then I'm out.
 
 Reality is the original Rorschach. Verily! So much for all that. | 
      
      
        |  LOOKMOM NOHANDS
 
 548
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.23 06:07:00 -
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 Daddrobit wrote:Is truly astounding! 
 Was in a match earlier, started out with 5 solo folks on our side vs 14 of theirs with a corp squad of at least 4, and yet when the map barely loads in, immediately 2 reds leave the match!
 
 Why do folks hate this map so much that they will go so far as to give up a free win?
 
 By the way, the match ended 4 vs 15, a squad of 3 joined mid match on their team, GG Scotty...
 
 Because playing the same map 8 - 10 times in a row is truly terrible. Playing a map for the 10th time while also trying to chase around the 2 out of 5 enemies who actually spawned in is just a huge no way.
 
 I truly believe that the train map needs to be removed from rotation for a couple of weeks so that we can get a break from it.
 
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        |  DUST Fiend
 
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      | Posted - 2015.04.23 06:12:00 -
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 If I join a team that has double the players than the enemy, I leave. Assuming I notice at least, I literally NEVER check the player board till after the match lol.
 
 "My bitter is showing. I must retreat to the berry patch." STUFF | 
      
      
        |  Arkena Wyrnspire
 Fatal Absolution
 Negative-Feedback
 
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      | Posted - 2015.04.23 06:12:00 -
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 That map is just awful.
 
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        |  castba
 Rogue Instincts
 Ashtar Federation
 
 848
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.23 06:15:00 -
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 Everyone liked the map when it was first put into rotation and I still think it is a good map, the issue is that it is loaded far too frequently.
 There are quite a few maps, so why the lack of variety?
 
 "When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti | 
      
      
        |  Bradric Banewolf
 D3ATH CARD
 RUST415
 
 792
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.23 06:18:00 -
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 The map is too one dimensional, it's still glitched in several spots, and jumpy suits made it worse because you spend the entire map chasing them while fending off splash dmg.
 
 "Anybody order chaos?" | 
      
      
        |  LOOKMOM NOHANDS
 
 548
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.23 06:21:00 -
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 castba wrote:Everyone liked the map when it was first put into rotation and I still think it is a good map, the issue is that it is loaded far too frequently.There are quite a few maps, so why the lack of variety?
 
 This is strictly a theory.
 
 
 I believe when the MCC map was added at a very low rotation a bug in the map rotation caused the train map to fill in the gap whenever the MCC map would have been loaded in an equal rotation.
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        |  Daddrobit
 You Can Call Me Daddy
 
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      | Posted - 2015.04.23 08:22:00 -
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 LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:castba wrote:Everyone liked the map when it was first put into rotation and I still think it is a good map, the issue is that it is loaded far too frequently.There are quite a few maps, so why the lack of variety?
 This is strictly a theory. I believe when the MCC map was added at a very low rotation a bug in the map rotation caused the train map to fill in the gap whenever the MCC map would have been loaded in an equal rotation.  
 It's confirmed that the train map has a slightly higher appearance rate, and the MCC map was added "as a test" with a super low rate, both were intentional.
 
 Regardless, as much as I do enjoy the train map myself, I would like to see the others more often as well.
 
 O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny | 
      
      
        |  shaman oga
 Dead Man's Game
 
 4503
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.23 08:29:00 -
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 Considering that you can get that map 3 times in a row.....
 
 I like it, but everything has a limit.
 
 Shifted in time, your tomorrow, my today. | 
      
      
        |  Edgar Reinhart
 Resheph Interstellar Strategy
 Gallente Federation
 
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      | Posted - 2015.04.23 08:41:00 -
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 I agree that it pops up a bit too much but I think that it is a much much better Dom map than whatever that Cal one is with the Ramps down to the underground point and the hole at the back to drop down on.
 
 'Fun' if you're a heavy\logi team but once the points are locked down it just becomes lemmings throwing themselves against a brick wall.
 
 Gal Research is similar but slightly less frustrating if you're not HMG'd up.
 
 Train Map at least has some variety and opportunities for hackers etc around the map.
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        |  CCP Rattati
 C C P
 C C P Alliance
 
 20843
 
 
  
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.23 09:43:00 -
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 It will be reduced, after W1.1. We are in a deployment lockdown.
 
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        |  Genral69 death
 Random Gunz
 Rise Of Legion.
 
 176
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.23 10:02:00 -
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 Please reduce it alot. I have very little time to play during the week due to work. This map comes up way to often, on Wednesday I believe it came up 4 out of the 7 battles I did. I'm sorry I resuse to play that damn map and will back out every time. Please just get rid of that damn map please , that or make it rare to get . Do a survey and see how many people actually like it compaired to how many cant stand it . I'm sure theres people that like it but I'm positive more people cant stand it than like it
 
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        |  STYLIE77
 KILL-EM-QUICK
 Rise Of Legion.
 
 575
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.23 10:34:00 -
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 CCP Rattati wrote:It will be reduced, after W1.1. We are in a deployment lockdown. 
 I hope so, I am so sick of playing this map half the night...
 
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        |  MINA Longstrike
 Kirjuun Heiian
 
 2717
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.23 10:43:00 -
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 I have an intense dislike for the map due to the alpha socket and how annoying myo fits get inside it. "You mean we can jump anywhere, have splash damage weapons, spam uplinks in spots that only other myo fits can get to and if we're not noticed punch people for 700 damage? how could this be poorly thought out at all!"
 
 Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts. | 
      
      
        |  DiablosMajora
 
 117
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.23 10:57:00 -
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 CCP Rattati wrote:It will be reduced, after W1.1. We are in a deployment lockdown. Ever consider pre-match map voting or selection by players?
 
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        |  Mobius Wyvern
 Fatal Absolution
 Negative-Feedback
 
 6224
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.23 11:52:00 -
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 DiablosMajora wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:It will be reduced, after W1.1. We are in a deployment lockdown. Ever consider pre-match map voting or selection by players? That would probably require a bit more coding than they have the manpower for right now.
 
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        |  Mex-0
 
 592
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.23 12:02:00 -
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 Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:That map is just awful. 
 I don't think it's THAT bad. I just hang around outside of the station to pick up kills and put down uplinks. (Yes, I'm a WP *****)
 
 PLCer-in-training | 
      
      
        |  RD Burns
 Third Degree Burns.
 
 27
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.23 12:32:00 -
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 CCP Rattati wrote:Could you also please take a look at maps that don't seem to come up in rotation at all anymore, I can't even remember what they were it's been so long since I played them.It will be reduced, after W1.1. We are in a deployment lockdown. | 
      
      
        |  Slave of MORTE
 
 404
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.23 13:29:00 -
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 castba wrote:Everyone liked the map when it was first put into rotation and I still think it is a good map, the issue is that it is loaded far too frequently.There are quite a few maps, so why the lack of variety?
 Exactly it is a solid map it's just stale as ****
 
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        |  Mr Machine Guns
 
 1087
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.23 13:33:00 -
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 Just enforce a penalty if a player leave a game, for example if a player leave a domination they can't join a new one until the one they joined and left has ended, but there should be some times when this penalty should not be enforced like if your team has 8 or less guys or if the match has already started
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        |  Fox Gaden
 Immortal Guides
 Learning Alliance
 
 6370
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.23 13:34:00 -
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 I like the train map.
 
 But I agree that it should go aback to the same frequency in the rotation as other maps.
 
 Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition. | 
      
      
        |  Mex-0
 
 594
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.23 13:34:00 -
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 Mr Machine Guns wrote:Just enforce a penalty if a player leave a game, for example if a player leave a domination they can't join a new one until the one they joined has ended  
 But what if they leave because some squad members didn't join the battle?
 
 Then do they have to suffer 15-20 minutes because of a glitch?
 
 PLCer-in-training | 
      
      
        |  jace silencerww
 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
 
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      | Posted - 2015.04.23 13:53:00 -
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 Mex-0 wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Just enforce a penalty if a player leave a game, for example if a player leave a domination they can't join a new one until the one they joined has ended  But what if they leave because some squad members didn't join the battle? Then do they have to suffer 15-20 minutes because of a glitch? 
 lol you are forgetting about the "random" disconnected from psn or signed out issue. Plus Mr Machine Gun if you go into a battle where it is 2-6 vs 11-16 will you stay? that is just a waste of 15-20 mins waiting on a red to kill or trying to fight out of your redline as it is being camped by 8+ reds using everything from tanks, sniper rifles, speed runner to run deep in your redline just to kill you and kill themselves in the process.
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        |  Shamarskii Simon
 The Hundred Acre Hood
 Rise Of Legion.
 
 363
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.23 14:48:00 -
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 With all these mega(wo)men jumping n shooting.....
 
 Tearing us up with the mass driver, and when they get the assault upgrade it's like dealing with a metal blade...
 
 If there were swords... id cry... Too many Zero's would appear.
 And on that map? There's no escape... Just boom boom boom.
 
 
 Ah. Megaman.
 
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        |  CELESTA AUNGM
 Kang Lo Directorate
 Gallente Federation
 
 538
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.23 16:00:00 -
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 HmmmGǪ.
 
 I'm siding with those who believe the "Trainyard" map is a good, righteous map---both in Domination and in Skirmish mode.
 
 The fact that the map is active too frequently compared with other maps is obviously due to whatever internal processes CCP is going through in their Igor-Laboratory, so there's little sense in criticizing them too much for it----they will adjust it as soon as they've finished what necessitated the "deployment lockdown" in the first place. All is good.
 
 But I think boredom or sense of futility in players only comes from inability (or flat refusal) to change our corny methods of competing for the map objectives. Even though I may carry the same sort of gear/deployables into the trainyard map, I WON'T rigidly use the same darn assault/defend methods in every session.
 
 If the reds charged straight for the Objective this time, and I see no one running with me to snatch the Objective before them, I may deploy equipment near the Objective to "encourage" reinforcement.
 
 If the reds came with Forge Guns, or HMGs, Mass Drivers, etc, I can't really think of myself as a 'skilled' player if I am not interested in trying new experiments to counter this surprise weapon the enemy brought with him this time. Good players TRY to change-up their methods and adapt.
 
 If my fellow blues claim the Objective before I even join them, I may not put equipment down at all---especially if I see they seem to have the same deployables already set up---COOL. I'll stick with you guys and defend. Or I'll fall back and support you with the Installations, to stall the red vehicle assault I see massing at the top of the map.
 
 Or I'll circle around and try to shut down all red CRUs I can reach.
 
 Or I'll use uplinks to try to get behind the reds in their own staging area---and invite a Redline.
 
 
  So, how boring, or not worth fighting, the trainyard map becomes is really determined by us, not by the map, (not even by the red team, as much as we may often assume). 
 
 
  And I'd hate to see a penalty for players needing to (or punking out and choosing to) leave the match. Maybe a "lock" that prevents you from voluntarily leaving after the first 120 seconds or soGǪ so the only way you can leave is to log out of the game entirely. But no penalty-punishment. They have the right to choose leaving, even if I may not always want them to.
 
 Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne...
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        |  Ydubbs81 RND
 Ahrendee Inc.
 Negative-Feedback
 
 3872
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.23 16:17:00 -
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 I boycott the train map and the huge 4 pt map religiously.
 
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        |  Dreis Shadowweaver
 0uter.Heaven
 Back and Forth
 
 3014
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.23 18:52:00 -
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 RD Burns wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:It will be reduced, after W1.1. We are in a deployment lockdown.  Could you also please take a look at maps that don't seem to come up in rotation at all anymore, I can't even remember what they were it's been so long since I played them.  I miss Manus Peak...
  
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        |  el OPERATOR
 Capital Acquisitions LLC
 Bad Intention
 
 1019
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.23 19:17:00 -
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 Mr Machine Guns wrote:Just enforce a penalty if a player leave a game, for example if a player leave a domination they can't join a new one until the one they joined and left has ended, but there should be some times when this penalty should not be enforced like if your team has 8 or less guys or if the match has already started 
 
 I agree, under most circumstances leaving a game should result in the match being recorded as a loss (forfeit) and any stat or isk gains being forfeit also.
 
 That said I also agree the rotation frequency for this particular map is off, it is waaay to common an experience to have it come up 4,5,6 times in a row. And then when there's a break and a different map comes up afterwards its back to the trainmap again a bunch of times.
 
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 DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR
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        |  Ku Shala
 PIanet Express
 
 1404
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.23 19:19:00 -
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 el OPERATOR wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Just enforce a penalty if a player leave a game, for example if a player leave a domination they can't join a new one until the one they joined and left has ended, but there should be some times when this penalty should not be enforced like if your team has 8 or less guys or if the match has already started I agree, under most circumstances leaving a game should result in the match being recorded as a loss (forfeit) and any stat or isk gains being forfeit also.  That said I also agree the rotation frequency for this particular map is off, it is waaay to common an experience to have it come up 4,5,6 times in a row. And then when there's a break and a different map comes up afterwards its back to the trainmap again a bunch of times.  what about disconnects/powerfails ect, there is no simple way to penalise (dirty word) players leaving a match
 
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