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The Dark Cloud The Rainbow Effect 4420	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:07:00 - [1] - Quote This is not acceptable CCP. There should be no trading fee for sending items. I dont want that only the rich are entitled to trade. For example in the devlbog there is a small note called "trade fee". Seriously do i really need to dump more ISK into NPC's then i allready do? Proof can be seen here: http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/67097/1/Trading_4.jpg I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 5763	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:10:00 - [2] - Quote There are NPC/station tax and transaction fees in EVE. This is reasonable...yet the numbers in that pic seem high. Also there are trading skills in EVE and loyalty points that you can build up with station agents to lower those fees considerably. Maybe that's an option CCP Rattati can pursue. @JadekMenaheim
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Back and Forth 7606	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:12:00 - [3] - Quote i'm all the sudden interested in trading... i get an advantage over the poors, yes please sign me up. Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you. Get Dust ISK Here
hold that Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 749	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:13:00 - [4] - Quote where does the money from the tax go? if the answer is no where then it's kind of stupid.
BAD FURRY Oh No You Didn't 836	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:13:00 - [5] - Quote The Dark Cloud wrote: This is not acceptable CCP. There should be no trading fee for sending items. I dont want that only the rich are entitled to trade. For example in the devlbog there is a small note called "trade fee". Seriously do i really need to dump more ISK into NPC's then i allready do? Proof can be seen here: http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/67097/1/Trading_4.jpg o for the love of duck tape screw trading add in a free market so we can sell on mass ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 1599	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:13:00 - [6] - Quote I too, as your friendly neighborhood third party agent middle man type person, will also be charging a nominal fee for the peace of mind that you want and need. "You can trust Eruditus!" It even rhymes, sort of. Details to come. "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2277	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:17:00 - [7] - Quote I thought that was my account until I saw it was missing 3 zeros. Baa dum tiss. Don't worry I just started drinking. It will get worse I promise. On topic: I am against trading fees. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2277	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:20:00 - [8] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: i'm all the sudden interested in trading... i get an advantage over the poors, yes please sign me up. Sorry, I'm slow. Other than already being rich, what is your advantage? Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 5764	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:23:00 - [9] - Quote In EVE you can set up a contract for a nominal 10,000 ISK fee or swap items for free if both pilots are in the same station. If CCP allowed us to pay AUR to swap stations as a bypass I'd figure people would band together to make a Dust Jita, which would put a LOT of strain on a server node. @JadekMenaheim
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9657	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:31:00 - [10] - Quote I just don't trust CCP not too put ridiculous trading fees on boosters and BPOs Also maybe a trading fee when we get trade windows. But this? This is paying a fee to maybe get scammed. Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support

Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Back and Forth 7607	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:33:00 - [11] - Quote but no really... CCP today is just not your day. off the wall PC changes and 10% trade fee. I'd have a comment if it was 1% but that is something i would be able to deal with. 10% i cant even understand the reasoning behind that. If you want to do third part stuff that is a total of 20% npc fee.... Might as well just trade to jara she is quick and will not scam you... Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you. Get Dust ISK Here
Kuruld Sengar G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 302	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:35:00 - [12] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: There are NPC/station tax and transaction fees in EVE. This is reasonable...yet the numbers in that pic seem high. Also there are trading skills in EVE and loyalty points that you can build up with station agents to lower those fees considerably. Maybe that's an option CCP Rattati can pursue. The numbers seem high, but it actually comes out to about 12,600 isk per officer mass driver at that rate in the pic.
Kalante Schiffer Ancient Exiles. 1084	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:38:00 - [13] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: i'm all the sudden interested in trading... i get an advantage over the poors, yes please sign me up. isnt that what being in the top 0.99% is all about? AE. Ringing fee. 2 isk. yahoo is full of fcking racists dumb knts.
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 3447	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:41:00 - [14] - Quote Kuruld Sengar wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: There are NPC/station tax and transaction fees in EVE. This is reasonable...yet the numbers in that pic seem high. Also there are trading skills in EVE and loyalty points that you can build up with station agents to lower those fees considerably. Maybe that's an option CCP Rattati can pursue. The numbers seem high, but it actually comes out to about 12,600 isk per officer mass driver at that rate in the pic. That's quite a bit. I hope the fee depends on the meta level of the item. That fee is a lot if you're trading standard fits to newbies Shotguns are made of a Scandium-Ruthenium-Boron enhanced alloy First to PM me with common name wins
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11480	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:43:00 - [15] - Quote Eve Online has an npc sales tax as well as npc broker fees for buy/sell orders, contracts, and planetary import/export. Also, learn to troll harder. Too easy to detect. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
The Dark Cloud The Rainbow Effect 4421	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:44:00 - [16] - Quote When there is a 10% fee of the value of a item then how exactly are escrow services supposed to work out? The seller sends it to the escrow char and pays 10% , that char then recieves the ISK from the costumer and hands out the goods and sends the ISK to the seller but he needs to pay again the 10% fee ontop. Which means the item itself became 20% more expensive + the fee that the person charges for the escrow service. This is bollocks. I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11480	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:47:00 - [17] - Quote The Dark Cloud wrote: When there is a 10% fee of the value of a item then how exactly are escrow services supposed to work out? The seller sends it to the escrow char and pays 10% , that char then recieves the ISK from the costumer and hands out the goods and sends the ISK to the seller but he needs to pay again the 10% fee ontop. Which means the item itself became 20% more expensive + the fee that the person charges for the escrow service. This is bollocks. I think you are over-thinking this. We don't know the whole details of how the fees work. That said, I hope Rattati explains a little more on that. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
The Dark Cloud The Rainbow Effect 4421	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:51:00 - [18] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: The Dark Cloud wrote: When there is a 10% fee of the value of a item then how exactly are escrow services supposed to work out? The seller sends it to the escrow char and pays 10% , that char then recieves the ISK from the costumer and hands out the goods and sends the ISK to the seller but he needs to pay again the 10% fee ontop. Which means the item itself became 20% more expensive + the fee that the person charges for the escrow service. This is bollocks. I think you are over-thinking this. We don't know the whole details of how the fees work. That said, I hope Rattati explains a little more on that. Knowing CCP they will screw this up if we dont hit on them in a pre caution attack then every 1 gets screwed over. I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
Lupus Wolf Minmatar Republic 243	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:58:00 - [19] - Quote The Dark Cloud wrote: When there is a 10% fee of the value of a item then how exactly are escrow services supposed to work out? The seller sends it to the escrow char and pays 10% , that char then recieves the ISK from the costumer and hands out the goods and sends the ISK to the seller but he needs to pay again the 10% fee ontop. Which means the item itself became 20% more expensive + the fee that the person charges for the escrow service. This is bollocks. There's no fee for sending ISK... Also, it might not be a 10% fee. It's just that the fee for trading 888 Officer MDs happened to be ~1/10th of the test char's balance. "Dogfighting with missiles is like watching two armless kids try to catch a baseball." - Dust Fiend
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 1497	Posted - 2015.04.15 04:58:00 - [20] - Quote The only way I will pay a fee is if it guarantees the transaction. IF YOU CAN READ THIS YOU DON'T NEED GLASSES

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11480	Posted - 2015.04.15 05:00:00 - [21] - Quote The Dark Cloud wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: The Dark Cloud wrote: When there is a 10% fee of the value of a item then how exactly are escrow services supposed to work out? The seller sends it to the escrow char and pays 10% , that char then recieves the ISK from the costumer and hands out the goods and sends the ISK to the seller but he needs to pay again the 10% fee ontop. Which means the item itself became 20% more expensive + the fee that the person charges for the escrow service. This is bollocks. I think you are over-thinking this. We don't know the whole details of how the fees work. That said, I hope Rattati explains a little more on that. Knowing CCP they will screw this up if we dont hit on them in a pre caution attack then every 1 gets screwed over. Then I'm glad you brought this up. However, I think your tone in the OP needs a little tuning. You came across as demanding and selfish when all you had to do was calmly bring this up in the thread that CCP Frame posted like I just did. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Back and Forth 7610	Posted - 2015.04.15 05:06:00 - [22] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: i'm all the sudden interested in trading... i get an advantage over the poors, yes please sign me up. isnt that what being in the top 0.99% is all about? Also dev hacks. 888 officer mass drivers. someone gets it... Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you. Get Dust ISK Here
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 5765	Posted - 2015.04.15 05:16:00 - [23] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Kuruld Sengar wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: There are NPC/station tax and transaction fees in EVE. This is reasonable...yet the numbers in that pic seem high. Also there are trading skills in EVE and loyalty points that you can build up with station agents to lower those fees considerably. Maybe that's an option CCP Rattati can pursue. The numbers seem high, but it actually comes out to about 12,600 isk per officer mass driver at that rate in the pic. That's quite a bit. I hope the fee depends on the meta level of the item. That fee is a lot if you're trading standard fits to newbies Newbies aren't going to have loyalty rank 4 right off the bat unless they put down $25 in aur purchases. @JadekMenaheim
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 15952	Posted - 2015.04.15 05:19:00 - [24] - Quote A trading fee is necessary if ya'll want any proper economy to come at any point in the future. Gotta slow down this rapid inflation somehow. Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan! *Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente vehicle name!*

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 20698	Posted - 2015.04.15 06:29:00 - [25] - Quote The fee is much lower than 10%, we haven't really decided on a final fee. That screenshot was just some QA test. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 5771	Posted - 2015.04.15 06:31:00 - [26] - Quote Cool. @JadekMenaheim
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2286	Posted - 2015.04.15 06:33:00 - [27] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: The fee is much lower than 10%, we haven't really decided on a final fee. That screenshot was just some QA test. So how would you do a trading fee on an item that is actually valuable and not simply an officer weapon. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
Squagga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 484	Posted - 2015.04.15 06:49:00 - [28] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: i'm all the sudden interested in trading... i get an advantage over the poors, yes please sign me up. The poors. Hahahaha. Of course theyre gonna charge us. It's CCP. They enjoy making people uncomfortable in Iceland Reloading, the silent killer.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 19289	Posted - 2015.04.15 07:07:00 - [29] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: The fee is much lower than 10%, we haven't really decided on a final fee. That screenshot was just some QA test. So how would you do a trading fee on an item that is actually valuable and not simply an officer weapon. All items have a base value this is used for a number of things including payouts at end of matches. CPM 1, Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= ADV HAVs =// Unlocked
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 3456	Posted - 2015.04.15 07:32:00 - [30] - Quote What kinda percentages you looking at? The screenshot one was around 9%, that seems a bit high. And also, why is there a fee? Is there a purpose, or just for immersion? Shotguns are made of a Scandium-Ruthenium-Boron enhanced alloy First to PM me with common name wins

Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 865	Posted - 2015.04.15 08:09:00 - [31] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: LUGMOS wrote: Kuruld Sengar wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: There are NPC/station tax and transaction fees in EVE. This is reasonable...yet the numbers in that pic seem high. Also there are trading skills in EVE and loyalty points that you can build up with station agents to lower those fees considerably. Maybe that's an option CCP Rattati can pursue. The numbers seem high, but it actually comes out to about 12,600 isk per officer mass driver at that rate in the pic. That's quite a bit. I hope the fee depends on the meta level of the item. That fee is a lot if you're trading standard fits to newbies Newbies aren't going to have loyalty rank 4 right off the bat unless they put down $25 in aur purchases. And they won't have acces to it for a very long time is they don't pay... I think the cool thing about trading was that even a newbie could get lucky with the strongboxes and then make a killing in trading to fund equipment startup in dust. I know i was poorer than poop when i started. GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
Heracles Porsche Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 297	Posted - 2015.04.15 08:45:00 - [32] - Quote Wilhelm Klingspor wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: LUGMOS wrote: Kuruld Sengar wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: There are NPC/station tax and transaction fees in EVE. This is reasonable...yet the numbers in that pic seem high. Also there are trading skills in EVE and loyalty points that you can build up with station agents to lower those fees considerably. Maybe that's an option CCP Rattati can pursue. The numbers seem high, but it actually comes out to about 12,600 isk per officer mass driver at that rate in the pic. That's quite a bit. I hope the fee depends on the meta level of the item. That fee is a lot if you're trading standard fits to newbies Newbies aren't going to have loyalty rank 4 right off the bat unless they put down $25 in aur purchases. And they won't have acces to it for a very long time is they don't pay... I think the cool thing about trading was that even a newbie could get lucky with the strongboxes and then make a killing in trading to fund equipment startup in dust. I know i was poorer than poop when i started. How many noobies have the rank 4 required to trade? not many. Videos Erry Day https://www.youtube.com/c/HeraclesPorsche
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 23221	Posted - 2015.04.15 08:52:00 - [33] - Quote Well, it's not in AUR. Gallente Guide one day i may leave the basement but that day is not today
iBONG Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 8	Posted - 2015.04.15 08:56:00 - [34] - Quote Lol, you don't have the market giving us correct amount of isk per loyalty rank already and u want more of your in game economy back to trade player to player? WTF mate, I thought we were friends=ƒåÿ

ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 1597	Posted - 2015.04.15 09:06:00 - [35] - Quote Station trading in EVE has no fee. Contract 10,000isk no matter if you're trading one unit of trit or a trillion ISK worth of PLEX, seriously CCP... Why are you even thinking %-wise? Or is this your way of ISK sink so we're forced to use AUR to play... DUSTSearch DUSTBoard DUST Server Status

Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3092	Posted - 2015.04.15 09:07:00 - [36] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: The fee is much lower than 10%, we haven't really decided on a final fee. That screenshot was just some QA test. Oh, good. 10% is way too high. click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 868	Posted - 2015.04.15 09:14:00 - [37] - Quote Heracles Porsche wrote: How many noobies have the rank 4 required to trade? not many. oh, don't get me started on the lv.4 thing... just did that in another thread and i'm still frothing at the mouth and the tears are ruining my coffee. GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 734	Posted - 2015.04.15 09:36:00 - [38] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: The fee is much lower than 10%, we haven't really decided on a final fee. That screenshot was just some QA test. Can the fee within corp "trading" be set to 0%? This makes it easier for logistics officers to not require huge stockpiles of ISK. It also makes belonging to a corp more important. This also require an extra step in Alt farming as they are by default placed in a NPC corp.
Kain Spero Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 5006	Posted - 2015.04.15 10:09:00 - [39] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: The fee is much lower than 10%, we haven't really decided on a final fee. That screenshot was just some QA test. At most it really should be is 2% for such an unsecured transaction. For example, the base sales tax fee in Eve is 1.5%. You then have skills that lower that further to 0.75%. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 1010	Posted - 2015.04.15 11:10:00 - [40] - Quote Trading fee, meh, its not going to be crippling. Even the stingiest of merc who are post level 4 can afford it. I'm only against it because its meaningless. Pay a fee for what exactly? NPC revenue? To prevent playes from over trading? To take itself seriously? Ionically, the lower it is, the less meaning it has. Anyways, no mtter the end percentage, it'll just be tacked on as a service tax to the buyer. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.

Daddrobit You Can Call Me Daddy 1403	Posted - 2015.04.15 11:31:00 - [41] - Quote If a trading fee is mandatory, we should implement a skill like Broker Relations or Accounting like they have in EVE to reduce it for those willing to invest SP in trading. O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
Flint Beastgood III GunFall Mobilization 1610	Posted - 2015.04.15 12:35:00 - [42] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: The only way I will pay a fee is if it guarantees the transaction. This. As much as I looked forward to player trading, it can now kiss my backside! What a let down. I don't know why I'm surprised though. Typical CCP. Whatever. September = the return of Metal Gear Online and my move to PS4!!!!! Rare Item Trades
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2269	Posted - 2015.04.15 13:08:00 - [43] - Quote The reason these taxes exist in eve is to provide a sink for currency to leave the game through. Most MMOs have plenty of currency faucets but no sinks. After a few years in Everquest, for example, the average player was so absurdly wealthy that even low end drops were being sold for prices that a new player who had reached the appropriate level for the item could never even come close to affording it. This lack of sinks wasn't such an issue before now in Dust because trading wasn't a thing, and every item you bought resulted in isk leaving the economy. Player to player trades result in isk moving, but not leaving the economy. As players start to take control over more of the economy this will eventually cause hyper-inflation, unless you put in some taxes that suck isk out. This will only really become critical if / when players start to create the equipment being sold, either through some sort of manufacturing or a loot process.
Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9518	Posted - 2015.04.15 13:12:00 - [44] - Quote Why not just remove the fee and apply Corp Tax...? Everyone is in a corp, anyway, NPC or not... That'd give some incentive to be in an actual player corp. Don't want the 10% tax? Join a player corp. Are you being Angry or Assertive?
Meric Voyer Universal Rogue Traders 31	Posted - 2015.04.15 13:21:00 - [45] - Quote Heracles Porsche wrote: How many noobies have the rank 4 required to trade? not many. None, if people playing for 2 years have only reached 5-6 without AUR.
Ku Shala PIanet Express Smart Deploy 1371	Posted - 2015.04.15 13:37:00 - [46] - Quote fee is probably to discourage the transfer of items daily between accounts like bpos and what not *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (CK-0 Specialist x5)* Caldari Loyalist 22 230 780 sp in drop suit upgrades
Brush Master Onslaught Inc 1504	Posted - 2015.04.15 15:43:00 - [47] - Quote I see no real point to the fee, it basically hurts the newer players but I guess the level 4 rank requirement reduces any new players from trading. Beta players? I think most of us have many millions lying around. How about anyone can receive items, just can't send unless your xx rank or some other requirement to deal with alts. Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ? True Logi. Flying DS from the start. @dustreports
Thumb Green The Valyrian Mercenary Army 2247	Posted - 2015.04.15 15:56:00 - [48] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: The fee is much lower than 10%, we haven't really decided on a final fee. That screenshot was just some QA test. Unless it's 0% it's too high. Like I said, it's either punishing you for helping people by giving them gear they need or you're paying for the chance to get screwed. I'm at Loyalty Rank 7 (2 1/2 years playing, $120 & ~240,000aur spent) but fck that noise. It's hard to believe I was once one of the biggest fanboys Dust had. Rated [TV-MA]
Genral69 death Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 150	Posted - 2015.04.15 16:14:00 - [49] - Quote Id like to know what's happening with the isk from the fee. Is it going to to person you are trading with , his/her corp? Where is it going ? And could it be used back I the community? Maybe a weekly draw within the game were on lucky merc wins said among of isk? Would be interesting to see pr perhaps trading gains you a small amount of warbarge comments for the fee . Just an idea General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
ROTFL Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 42	Posted - 2015.04.15 16:16:00 - [50] - Quote WOW................ JUST SAY NO! Sorry guy's, If you want my big guns, YOU PAY THIS STUPID FEE! I will NOT be taxed! Knowing is half the battle! The other half involves guns! GI JOE!

knight guard fury Carbon 7 1607	Posted - 2015.04.15 16:18:00 - [51] - Quote I love how you guys complain over even the simplest of things Kin of the Vherokior tribe I'm a pure minmatar soldier I do not associate with anyone that is not Mnmatar
knight guard fury Carbon 7 1607	Posted - 2015.04.15 16:19:00 - [52] - Quote What if the fee went to your corp? Kin of the Vherokior tribe I'm a pure minmatar soldier I do not associate with anyone that is not Mnmatar
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 7069	Posted - 2015.04.15 16:25:00 - [53] - Quote Taxes lol New skill tree for traders, ala EvE?
Corbina Ninja ItalPetrolCemeTermoTessilFarmaMetalChimica 1266	Posted - 2015.04.15 16:28:00 - [54] - Quote there is no fee in p2p direct trade in EvE only for sell/buy order <- (real trading) Dust Player Trading??? this thing you can not even call "trading" «Questa è l'Italia del futuro: un paese di musichette mentre fuori c'è la morte.»
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1251	Posted - 2015.04.15 16:42:00 - [55] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: There are NPC/station tax and transaction fees in EVE. This is reasonable...yet the numbers in that pic seem high. Also there are trading skills in EVE and loyalty points that you can build up with station agents to lower those fees considerably. Maybe that's an option CCP Rattati can pursue. In EVE, the capsuleers are stuck in their cockpits, and have to trade through the station. In Dust, we can trade face to face. Why would we throw a random coin to the side for that? http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
Flint Beastgood III GunFall Mobilization 1619	Posted - 2015.04.15 17:08:00 - [56] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: There are NPC/station tax and transaction fees in EVE. This is reasonable...yet the numbers in that pic seem high. Also there are trading skills in EVE and loyalty points that you can build up with station agents to lower those fees considerably. Maybe that's an option CCP Rattati can pursue. In EVE, the capsuleers are stuck in their cockpits, and have to trade through the station. In Dust, we can trade face to face. Why would we throw a random coin to the side for that? Technically, DUST mercs are stuck in the same station indefinitely. We never even leave when we travel to a planet for any type of contract (this is shown by still being in the same local chat). Therefore, we are not trading in-station, or face-to-face. Maybe by space-mail? Is this what the % is for? Gotta pay the postman, LOL. Rare Item Trades
Al the destroyer Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 320	Posted - 2015.04.15 17:20:00 - [57] - Quote The fee doesn't seem to serve any purpose. Can you explain why you would need a fee? Seems like dropsuit lvl 5 to me. I'll pay the fee it won't make me or break me it just seems useless. The rich will still be rich and the poor will be poorer. The ones whom have farmed the isk will be able to run non-stop officer weapons this will lead to more ppl not wanting to play the game. Give the newbs a chance!
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 759	Posted - 2015.04.15 17:40:00 - [58] - Quote Al is kinda right IM going to weigh in on this. Any character in EVE online can simply just give another player ISK and there is no fee> I can also contract a ship for one ISk to a friend in which he pays me 1 ISk for a (for example) 10 M ISK ship. Yes there is a tax for that transaction but the cost is 'agreed" to by the 2 parties as per contracts. But in Dust were forced to not be able to adjust the selling price, full market value must be paid and a tax per that value is applied......wait What.? SO my EVE toon can create a contract for an officer module for 1 ISK to give to my second slot/alt but my DUST toon cant. My Dust toon has to Sell it at full market price pay a Transaction tax and the alt has to pay a Transaction tax on that as well.Wait what ? But you're not going to give us Corp hangars either ? Giving us the ability to Borrow or give?.... Wow Im lost so EVE can do this but Dust cannot....lol wow Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 523	Posted - 2015.04.15 19:21:00 - [59] - Quote GÇª. Let me apologize in advance for doing this, but every once in a while, I MUST laugh at and ridicule Dust-forum posters sometimes. Not ALL posters, thank goodness. Some on this forum live in the Real, take time to digest a subject that they're wading into the middle of, can WAIT till more reliable details come out, never get duped by crippled claims OTHERS are presuming they know know so much about, and NEVER are Gomer-Pyle enough to pick up a torch and follow the rest of the villagers just because one member says she saw them building Frankenstein's monster around the corner, and we're gonna go burn 'em all outGÇª..... Nearly EVERY image, jpg, png, screenshot, concept art, Fanfest promo pic, that CCP has ever released on this Forum has been "TEST PURPOSES ONLY" in appearance, or "WORK IN PROGRESS", and usually differs so significantly from the FINAL version, that some players like myself actually built albums on our PS3 photo galleries, to save CCP's development-screenshots as collector's items, LOL. What surprises me is how many regular Forum followers DON'T notice that fact yet----so they STILL explode out of their chairs to "be the villager grabbing the torch again"GÇªbecause the screenshot showed 150 giga-joules on a Neo-Menu instead of on a Neo-Com. (What!? The NeoCom is being replaced? EVE-Online has a NeoCom, and if CCP doesn't restore it at once, let's shut this whole mother down and---HolyGÇª.) LOL, the fact that we keep repeating the same false alarms and "50th-time-assumptions" like these, so long after we ought to have learned the pattern by now, is the only real "WTF" issue in this Forum. GÇªIs there even any worth in contributing to the topic? Okay. Dust is a New Eden game----everything in New Eden is taxed, charged, or gimmicked by corps out there. I heard that if you're an EVE Mining player, you get taxed/tariffed just for selling ore in a quadrant belonging to a Faction you never did any personal missions for, when you have only Level-2 SP on your "negotiation" skills. Say WHAT? Dust doesn't have that kind of nefarious tax system. But it's New Eden, so we should expect some kind of fee gimmick. If EVE-Online doesn't have exactly the same kind of tax-gimmick that Dust ends up with---I don't care. We ain't EVE-Online. We're DUST 514! Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.
DaemonVok Axis of Chaos 1	Posted - 2015.04.15 20:58:00 - [60] - Quote The Dark Cloud wrote: This is not acceptable CCP. There should be no trading fee for sending items. I dont want that only the rich are entitled to trade. For example in the devlbog there is a small note called "trade fee". Seriously do i really need to dump more ISK into NPC's then i allready do? Proof can be seen here: http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/67097/1/Trading_4.jpg They were trading 888 officer mass drivers..... the trade tax was 11mil.... thats just over 12k per OFFICER weapon. Thats reasonable.

DaemonVok Axis of Chaos 1	Posted - 2015.04.15 21:00:00 - [61] - Quote CELESTA AUNGM wrote: GÇª. Let me apologize in advance for doing this, but every once in a while, I MUST laugh at and ridicule Dust-forum posters sometimes. Not ALL posters, thank goodness. Some on this forum live in the Real, take time to digest a subject that they're wading into the middle of, can WAIT till more reliable details come out, never get duped by crippled claims OTHERS are presuming they know know so much about, and NEVER are Gomer-Pyle enough to pick up a torch and follow the rest of the villagers just because one member says she saw them building Frankenstein's monster around the corner, and we're gonna go burn 'em all outGÇª..... Nearly EVERY image, jpg, png, screenshot, concept art, Fanfest promo pic, that CCP has ever released on this Forum has been "TEST PURPOSES ONLY" in appearance, or "WORK IN PROGRESS", and usually differs so significantly from the FINAL version, that some players like myself actually built albums on our PS3 photo galleries, to save CCP's development-screenshots as collector's items, LOL. What surprises me is how many regular Forum followers DON'T notice that fact yet----so they STILL explode out of their chairs to "be the villager grabbing the torch again"GÇªbecause the screenshot showed 150 giga-joules on a Neo-Menu instead of on a Neo-Com. (What!? The NeoCom is being replaced? EVE-Online has a NeoCom, and if CCP doesn't restore it at once, let's shut this whole mother down and---HolyGÇª.) LOL, the fact that we keep repeating the same false alarms and "50th-time-assumptions" like these, so long after we ought to have learned the pattern by now, is the only real "WTF" issue in this Forum. GÇªIs there even any worth in contributing to the topic? Okay. Dust is a New Eden game----everything in New Eden is taxed, charged, or gimmicked by corps out there. I heard that if you're an EVE Mining player, you get taxed/tariffed just for selling ore in a quadrant belonging to a Faction you never did any personal missions for, when you have only Level-2 SP on your "negotiation" skills. Say WHAT? Dust doesn't have that kind of nefarious tax system. But it's New Eden, so we should expect some kind of fee gimmick. If EVE-Online doesn't have exactly the same kind of tax-gimmick that Dust ends up with---I don't care. We ain't EVE-Online. We're DUST 514! Also what he said.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 5700	Posted - 2015.04.15 21:06:00 - [62] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: There are NPC/station tax and transaction fees in EVE. This is reasonable...yet the numbers in that pic seem high. Also there are trading skills in EVE and loyalty points that you can build up with station agents to lower those fees considerably. Maybe that's an option CCP Rattati can pursue. Manual trades dont get the fee in EVE as far as im aware. Only buy/sell orders are subject to that. What we have here is a bad mechanic. CCP Rattati wrote: The fee is much lower than 10%, we haven't really decided on a final fee. That screenshot was just some QA test. How about no fee. Because its a silly mechanic for manual trading, which is historically supposed to be considered under-the-table. You already run the risk of being scammed, you dont need a fee on top of that. Leave the fees for buy/sell order mechanics. Usually banned for being too awesome.
knight guard fury Carbon 7 1608	Posted - 2015.04.15 23:12:00 - [63] - Quote The only logical thing Is station tax tbh. We are in EVE after all. Because you know... We are trading through/in stations soo... Kin of the Vherokior tribe I'm a pure minmatar soldier I do not associate with anyone that is not Mnmatar
Thumb Green The Valyrian Mercenary Army 2249	Posted - 2015.04.15 23:20:00 - [64] - Quote CELESTA AUNGM wrote: -snip- The problem your comment is, we're not complaining about an unknown fee percentage that hasn't been confirmed. We're complaining about the fact that there is a fee in the first place which has been confirmed by rattati. People aren't freaking out about something that may or may not be there they're freaking out about something confirmed to be there. It's hard to believe I was once one of the biggest fanboys Dust had. Rated [TV-MA]
Blake Kingston Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 221	Posted - 2015.04.16 00:33:00 - [65] - Quote hold that wrote: where does the money from the tax go? if the answer is no where then it's kind of stupid. Given the question asks for a location, if the answer is 'no', I'd agree, that is kind of stupid. Go to 'no', do not collect 200 pounds...
Mr.Pepe Le Pew Art.of.Death 57	Posted - 2015.04.16 15:33:00 - [66] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: i'm all the sudden interested in trading... i get an advantage over the poors, yes please sign me up. lol CEO / Art.of.Death
Mr.Pepe Le Pew Art.of.Death 57	Posted - 2015.04.16 15:34:00 - [67] - Quote hold that wrote: where does the money from the tax go? if the answer is no where then it's kind of stupid. Agreed. CEO / Art.of.Death
Mr.Pepe Le Pew Art.of.Death 57	Posted - 2015.04.16 15:43:00 - [68] - Quote Regis Blackbird wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: The fee is much lower than 10%, we haven't really decided on a final fee. That screenshot was just some QA test. Can the fee within corp "trading" be set to 0%? This makes it easier for logistics officers to not require huge stockpiles of ISK. It also makes belonging to a corp more important. This also require an extra step in Alt farming as they are by default placed in a NPC corp. Brilliant. I think in corp trading at 0% is a fantastic idea. Or at least, let the fee go to the corp if there's in-corp trading. CEO / Art.of.Death
Thumb Green The Valyrian Mercenary Army 2258	Posted - 2015.04.16 15:52:00 - [69] - Quote Mr.Pepe Le Pew wrote: Regis Blackbird wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: The fee is much lower than 10%, we haven't really decided on a final fee. That screenshot was just some QA test. Can the fee within corp "trading" be set to 0%? This makes it easier for logistics officers to not require huge stockpiles of ISK. It also makes belonging to a corp more important. This also require an extra step in Alt farming as they are by default placed in a NPC corp. Brilliant. I think in corp trading at 0% is a fantastic idea. Or at least, let the fee go to the corp if there's in-corp trading. Then people will just jump into the same corp to avoid the fee or people with access with the corp wallet will reimburse the trader. Just don't fcking implement the fee, there's no good reason for it. It's hard to believe I was once one of the biggest fanboys Dust had. Rated [TV-MA]
Kayla Michael Tactical Logistics and Cargo 101	Posted - 2015.04.16 16:27:00 - [70] - Quote Where does the currency go? I don't mind having a fee to my transaction.. but 11 Million + ISK? Almost seems self-defeating of the trade idea. Perhaps this fee is to slow down trading activities which prevents rapid material progression with in the vying market? I eat drahp uplink, me thinks this isn't a cookie. `~`

Kayla Michael Tactical Logistics and Cargo 101	Posted - 2015.04.16 16:29:00 - [71] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: The fee is much lower than 10%, we haven't really decided on a final fee. That screenshot was just some QA test. Ah, okay. I eat drahp uplink, me thinks this isn't a cookie. `~`
2Berries Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 796	Posted - 2015.04.16 16:30:00 - [72] - Quote Unless the trading fee provides some sort of assurity to the transaction it needs to be removed. NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION! I understand CCP wants a isk dump so the isk totals of the ultra rich drop evenentually, but keep your hands out of my pockets. Find another way to scam money from the billionaires who took advantage of the exploitment opportunities you provided. To the billionaires referred to above - if you agree, kick down a couple million! Evening Boys, Hows the water?
BAD FURRY Oh No You Didn't 837	Posted - 2015.04.18 02:35:00 - [73] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: The fee is much lower than 10%, we haven't really decided on a final fee. That screenshot was just some QA test. how bout a FREE MARKET ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
deadly assasin323 deadly blood steps 23	Posted - 2015.04.18 02:37:00 - [74] - Quote The Dark Cloud wrote: This is not acceptable CCP. There should be no trading fee for sending items. I dont want that only the rich are entitled to trade. For example in the devlbog there is a small note called "trade fee". Seriously do i really need to dump more ISK into NPC's then i allready do? Proof can be seen here: http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/67097/1/Trading_4.jpg how you trade between people D.B.S go check us out our recruiting thread https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=196992&find=unread
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 1071	Posted - 2015.04.20 01:37:00 - [75] - Quote If I want to transfer one of my dragonfly suits to an alt or to a member of my corp why should there be a fee for doing so? Sounds ridiculous? Especially when I have to pay in game currency to give an item paid for with real money to myself!!
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 3606	Posted - 2015.04.20 01:56:00 - [76] - Quote Kristoff Atruin wrote: The reason these taxes exist in eve is to provide a sink for currency to leave the game through. Most MMOs have plenty of currency faucets but no sinks. After a few years in Everquest, for example, the average player was so absurdly wealthy that even low end drops were being sold for prices that a new player who had reached the appropriate level for the item could never even come close to affording it. This lack of sinks wasn't such an issue before now in Dust because trading wasn't a thing, and every item you bought resulted in isk leaving the economy. Player to player trades result in isk moving, but not leaving the economy. As players start to take control over more of the economy this will eventually cause hyper-inflation, unless you put in some taxes that suck isk out. This will only really become critical if / when players start to create the equipment being sold, either through some sort of manufacturing or a loot process. This quote hasn't been quoted enough, as in 0. Please, take the time to read it, understand it, and try to see the logic. It makes sense if you take the time to read it. Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons First to PM me with common name wins (no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)
Thumb Green The Valyrian Mercenary Army 2288	Posted - 2015.04.20 03:24:00 - [77] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Kristoff Atruin wrote: The reason these taxes exist in eve is to provide a sink for currency to leave the game through. Most MMOs have plenty of currency faucets but no sinks. After a few years in Everquest, for example, the average player was so absurdly wealthy that even low end drops were being sold for prices that a new player who had reached the appropriate level for the item could never even come close to affording it. This lack of sinks wasn't such an issue before now in Dust because trading wasn't a thing, and every item you bought resulted in isk leaving the economy. Player to player trades result in isk moving, but not leaving the economy. As players start to take control over more of the economy this will eventually cause hyper-inflation, unless you put in some taxes that suck isk out. This will only really become critical if / when players start to create the equipment being sold, either through some sort of manufacturing or a loot process. This quote hasn't been quoted enough, as in 0. Please, take the time to read it, understand it, and try to see the logic. It makes sense if you take the time to read it. It'd make sense if the trading was the same as in EVE with an actual market where the fee could be explained by the fact that the market is providing a secure way of trading and players weren't charged a fee should they choose to trade outside the market or if they decide to flat out give stuff away. The fee isn't going to be able to remove a significant amount of ISK without hurting the poor that want to trade away what they have to make some ISK so they can buy what they want, while barely denting the wallets of the rich. Want to create an ISK sink? * Remove most installations from the map (leave SD's behind redline in places they can't be destroyed). * Give us player owned installations (configurability can wait). * Set a limit on how many can be on the field at a time (nothing higher than the current count). * Set it so they can only be dropped in locations that vehicles can be called in (and fix that location incassable in the middle of an open field bullshit) though don't actually drop them in, have them materialize like vehicles dematerialize. Edit: Though set a height limit on where they can be called. We don't need a SD up on some of those towers. * Don't allow them to be recalled. * Don't allow more than 1 of the same type (CRU, SD, Turret) to be dropped within a certain radius of each other * Make them cost ~1-5 million ISK maybe even more. * Make them as weak as they used to be or somewhere around there. * Make them worth less WP's for destroying, in line with vehicles. * And finally make them only tradable by licensed retailers aka: NPC's. Bam, you've got yourself an ISK sink that doesn't punish anyone and everyone wants to get in on. I've got a random blueberry in my corp. Don't know why he wanted to join but I keep him as if he's a pet. Rated [TV-MA]
Hyuan BubblePOP Uber Wanabes 23	Posted - 2015.04.20 07:24:00 - [78] - Quote Eve players have tio pay up fees on a lot of things in new eden, so should you!
Nirwanda Vaughns 1626	Posted - 2015.04.20 08:19:00 - [79] - Quote Perhaps in time we'll see a trade skill similar to EVE that reduces the fee for trading. It could perhaps be something else used to lower the loyalty rank required fo rtrades themselves. have it a high rank skill and each level reduces loyalty rank required to trade by one rank level Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
sir RAVEN WING Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 3378	Posted - 2015.04.21 20:24:00 - [80] - Quote This is rather cheap. @Viktor You do realize you will be losing your billions, right? *"Vengeance. Vengeance is the name of the monster that consumed me so long ago." - Sir Raven Wing*

LOL KILLZ LulKlz 30	Posted - 2015.04.21 20:49:00 - [81] - Quote No CCP JUST NO CEO of LulKlz/ chat channel LulKlz, code 0000 <--- numbers
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 1527	Posted - 2015.04.28 13:12:00 - [82] - Quote Ok, soooo...? ))) Please support fair play!
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 31	Posted - 2015.04.28 13:25:00 - [83] - Quote They didn't give AF CEO of LulKlz/ chat channel LulKlz, code 0000 <--- numbers
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 1527	Posted - 2015.04.28 13:44:00 - [84] - Quote LOL KILLZ wrote: They didn't give AF Sry, what is AF? Please support fair play!
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2206	Posted - 2015.04.28 14:21:00 - [85] - Quote John Psi wrote: LOL KILLZ wrote: They didn't give AF Sry, what is AF? A fuuck. :) Here I was thinking you drove tanks, but clearly thats just your ego that you ride around in. -DUST fiend to Dark Cloud
The Dark Cloud The Rainbow Effect 4643	Posted - 2015.04.28 14:31:00 - [86] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: The fee is much lower than 10%, we haven't really decided on a final fee. That screenshot was just some QA test. Lies the fee on the game is exactly 10% now. For example a balacs-Gar 21 costs 126,495ISK in the NPC market yet the Traiding fee is 12,695 ISK. So please elaborate how that happend. I got you now ratatti and nowhere to hide. I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 21287	Posted - 2015.04.28 14:42:00 - [87] - Quote The Dark Cloud wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: The fee is much lower than 10%, we haven't really decided on a final fee. That screenshot was just some QA test. Lies the fee on the game is exactly 10% now. For example a balacs-Gar 21 costs 126,495ISK in the NPC market yet the Traiding fee is 12,695 ISK. So please elaborate how that happend. I got you now ratatti and nowhere to hide. Are you intent on being banned? I do not lie to the community. I made a statement, based on the information I had, and that was not 10% and is not supposed to be 10%. The definition of that is a bug, not a lie. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 23570	Posted - 2015.04.28 14:43:00 - [88] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: The Dark Cloud wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: The fee is much lower than 10%, we haven't really decided on a final fee. That screenshot was just some QA test. Lies the fee on the game is exactly 10% now. For example a balacs-Gar 21 costs 126,495ISK in the NPC market yet the Traiding fee is 12,695 ISK. So please elaborate how that happend. I got you now ratatti and nowhere to hide. Are you intent on being banned? I do not lie to the community. I made a statement, based on the information I had, and that was not 10% and is not supposed to be 10%. The definition of that is a bug, not a lie. Is the actual rate stated anywhere? Supreme Forum Warrior Gallente Guide
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2206	Posted - 2015.04.28 14:44:00 - [89] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: The Dark Cloud wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: The fee is much lower than 10%, we haven't really decided on a final fee. That screenshot was just some QA test. Lies the fee on the game is exactly 10% now. For example a balacs-Gar 21 costs 126,495ISK in the NPC market yet the Traiding fee is 12,695 ISK. So please elaborate how that happend. I got you now ratatti and nowhere to hide. Are you intent on being banned? I do not lie to the community. I made a statement, based on the information I had, and that was not 10% and is not supposed to be 10%. The definition of that is a bug, not a lie. read my sig, theres your answer. Here I was thinking you drove tanks, but clearly thats just your ego that you ride around in. -DUST fiend to Dark Cloud
The Dark Cloud The Rainbow Effect 4644	Posted - 2015.04.28 15:19:00 - [90] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: The Dark Cloud wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: The fee is much lower than 10%, we haven't really decided on a final fee. That screenshot was just some QA test. Lies the fee on the game is exactly 10% now. For example a balacs-Gar 21 costs 126,495ISK in the NPC market yet the Traiding fee is 12,695 ISK. So please elaborate how that happend. I got you now ratatti and nowhere to hide. Are you intent on being banned? I do not lie to the community. I made a statement, based on the information I had, and that was not 10% and is not supposed to be 10%. The definition of that is a bug, not a lie. I only see how facts are based on the data i see on the game. But you cannot deny it that your statement and what is in the game collide with each other. If you make statements then you have to ensure that it stays like that. On the other hand i feel sorry for ya if some 1 else messed it up. But im sure its nothing that you guys cant fix with a swift hotfix in the next couple of days. I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.

Kalante Schiffer Ancient Exiles. 1118	Posted - 2015.04.28 15:51:00 - [91] - Quote The Dark Cloud wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: The Dark Cloud wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: The fee is much lower than 10%, we haven't really decided on a final fee. That screenshot was just some QA test. Lies the fee on the game is exactly 10% now. For example a balacs-Gar 21 costs 126,495ISK in the NPC market yet the Traiding fee is 12,695 ISK. So please elaborate how that happend. I got you now ratatti and nowhere to hide. Are you intent on being banned? I do not lie to the community. I made a statement, based on the information I had, and that was not 10% and is not supposed to be 10%. The definition of that is a bug, not a lie. I only see how facts are based on the data i see on the game. But you cannot deny it that your statement and what is in the game collide with each other. If you make statements then you have to ensure that it stays like that. On the other hand i feel sorry for ya if some 1 else messed it up. But im sure its nothing that you guys cant fix with a swift hotfix in the next couple of days. dude calm down... oh my god. A 10% that was not intended dont get your panties on a bunch. Arent you the one that claimed to be a rich vet with 300m? which is trololol compared to the billionaires and you are crying about a 10% fee? are you f*cking kidding me? AE. Ringing for 2 isk.
BAD FURRY Oh No You Didn't 856	Posted - 2015.04.29 00:18:00 - [92] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: The Dark Cloud wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: The Dark Cloud wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: The fee is much lower than 10%, we haven't really decided on a final fee. That screenshot was just some QA test. Lies the fee on the game is exactly 10% now. For example a balacs-Gar 21 costs 126,495ISK in the NPC market yet the Traiding fee is 12,695 ISK. So please elaborate how that happend. I got you now ratatti and nowhere to hide. Are you intent on being banned? I do not lie to the community. I made a statement, based on the information I had, and that was not 10% and is not supposed to be 10%. The definition of that is a bug, not a lie. I only see how facts are based on the data i see on the game. But you cannot deny it that your statement and what is in the game collide with each other. If you make statements then you have to ensure that it stays like that. On the other hand i feel sorry for ya if some 1 else messed it up. But im sure its nothing that you guys cant fix with a swift hotfix in the next couple of days. dude calm down... oh my god. A 10% that was not intended dont get your panties on a bunch. Arent you the one that claimed to be a rich vet with 300m? which is trololol compared to the billionaires and you are crying about a 10% fee? are you f*cking kidding me? still a rip off why we need free market Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
BAD FURRY Oh No You Didn't 856	Posted - 2015.04.29 00:30:00 - [93] - Quote CCP Rattati time to drop the balls when are we going to have a free market on dust like in eve ? just asking cus this player trade is just a bag of bull bio.... just sad man you dont need to hold the dust bunny's hands even if there from a console . so what we Eve god,s that play this game to will eat them alive i mean at the end of the day you Cant save them forever from us..... its better now then latter trust me . come CCP Rattati on you know what i mean Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 1529	Posted - 2015.04.29 01:26:00 - [94] - Quote Anyway, fee for direct trading - nonsens. Maybe for selling/buying order, but direct trading... Fixed small cost like cspa for transfer? Please support fair play!


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