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Boot Booter
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2015.03.27 17:54:00 -
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If you could create a laser rifle designed for AV....
How would it function?
What kind of stats would it have?
How would you prevent it from being too good against infantry?
These questions stem from wanting to give each race a AV light weapon option. Please try to stay constructive and civil.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1883
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Posted - 2015.03.27 19:24:00 -
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And most importantly:
What the frag it would do to infantry...?
Looking at both sides of the coin.
Even Aurum one.
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Ghosts Chance
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
3122
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Posted - 2015.03.27 19:31:00 -
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burst weapon, fires a strong beam for a limited time, heats up railgun style
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
155
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Posted - 2015.03.27 22:26:00 -
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Well in rattati's board on trello, it seems he is planning to have a heavy laser. I'm not sure if it will actually happen but one can hope
There are a few weapons I have yet to master; mass driver, nova knives,ion pistol,flay lock pistol and the magsec
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Vitharr Foebane
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
2263
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Posted - 2015.03.27 22:41:00 -
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We technically have one planned in the Scrambler Lance just need to get the devs to implement it T^T
Amarr Omnisoldier: Assault, Commando, Logistics, Scout, Sentinel at V
My faith is in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Boot Booter
Titans of Phoenix
1248
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Posted - 2015.03.28 16:39:00 -
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Yeah but I'm more interested in a simple solution. We could use the already existing laser rifle. I like the burst idea. The real problem is how to make it not wreck infantry and reasonable lore wise. |
Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
158
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Posted - 2015.03.28 17:37:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:Yeah but I'm more interested in a simple solution. We could use the already existing laser rifle. I like the burst idea. The real problem is how to make it not wreck infantry and reasonable lore wise.
We have a huge problem then. Anything amarr wrecks everything
There are a few weapons I have yet to master; mass driver, nova knives,ion pistol,flay lock pistol and the magsec
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
674
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Posted - 2015.03.28 17:47:00 -
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Just make a amarr heavy laser... same art asset, but only equippable on heavy frames... fast heatup, and rediculous amount of vehicle damage...
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Sinboto Simmons
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
7999
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Posted - 2015.03.28 17:55:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:Boot Booter wrote:Yeah but I'm more interested in a simple solution. We could use the already existing laser rifle. I like the burst idea. The real problem is how to make it not wreck infantry and reasonable lore wise. We have a huge problem then. Anything amarr wrecks everything
Except the scrambler after it gets nerfed.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2
Born of the Brutor tribe
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Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
339
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Posted - 2015.03.28 18:10:00 -
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I like the idea of a laser weapon for AV but a beam weapon would be able to cut through ground troops too easily.
Make it something like a forge gun that fires a beam for a second maybe. But while firing, aiming and directional changes are slowed down drastically for some fancy lore reason. This would also reduce its effectiveness against vehicles at closer ranges and make it a longer range weapon.
Maybe its appearance/animation is like a smaller/shorter duration version of the amarian doomsday weapon as used on titans.
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
I don't care so neither should you :)
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
158
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Posted - 2015.03.28 18:11:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Georgia Xavier wrote:Boot Booter wrote:Yeah but I'm more interested in a simple solution. We could use the already existing laser rifle. I like the burst idea. The real problem is how to make it not wreck infantry and reasonable lore wise. We have a huge problem then. Anything amarr wrecks everything Except the scrambler after it gets nerfed.
Why would it get nerfed? It's not even as reliable as other guns without amarr assault. In the hands of an average user of course
There are a few weapons I have yet to master; mass driver, nova knives,ion pistol,flay lock pistol and the magsec
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Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
339
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Posted - 2015.03.28 18:12:00 -
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Mad Syringe wrote:Just make a amarr heavy laser... same art asset, but only equippable on heavy frames... fast heatup, and rediculous amount of vehicle damage...
Done
make a medium AV varient of the laser rifle to bring a medium Av weapon to the amar but for the heavy Id prefer a gold skinned forge gun so the weapon looks the size it should be.
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
I don't care so neither should you :)
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Sinboto Simmons
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
8001
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Posted - 2015.03.30 10:03:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Georgia Xavier wrote:Boot Booter wrote:Yeah but I'm more interested in a simple solution. We could use the already existing laser rifle. I like the burst idea. The real problem is how to make it not wreck infantry and reasonable lore wise. We have a huge problem then. Anything amarr wrecks everything Except the scrambler after it gets nerfed. Why would it get nerfed? It's not even as reliable as other guns without amarr assault. In the hands of an average user of course
Because:
A After having used it I can honestly say that it doesn't require Amarr assault at all, on top of being simple to use at all ranges as long as you've two brain cells to rub together.
B: Ratatat said he was nerffing it.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2
Born of the Brutor tribe
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9499
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Posted - 2015.03.30 10:08:00 -
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You know how we can give light weapons a reduced efficacy toward vehicles? Why can't we do the opposite? Make an av variant laser rifle as a light weapon and then all we need is a rail based light av weapon. For heavy weapon laser I'd also prefer a reduced forge
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Litany 0f Fury
Revolution of Evil Henchmen
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Posted - 2015.03.30 11:08:00 -
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Heavy Beam Laser
Effective range at a slightly larger distance compared to the laser Rifle. (This should reduce its effectiveness against Infantry.)
Charge to fire same as scramble rifle, but depending on charge, it fires for a period of time (beam) and gradually increases in damage with time same as the laser Rifle. Heat build up with length of fire as normal.
So basically short charge up, short beam duration / Large charge up long beam duration.
Skill required to balance heat build up and beam duration.
Restriction: have to fire for length of charge or cancel and cooldown (Vent). (similar to assault forge gun)
Restriction: charge up has overload factor, so if kept charged then heat will start to build up until massive overheat and massive Damage to user.
With this style it will be situational enough to not effect infantry to much and not suppressive enough to over shadow the existing laser rifle. However allowing for good AV capability utilizing its differing charge up function to tackle different Vehicle variants.
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Justicar Karnellia
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
1014
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Posted - 2015.03.30 12:32:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:Well in rattati's board on trello, it seems he is planning to have a heavy laser. I'm not sure if it will actually happen but one can hope
Yeah there's a quote about it somewhere from him that I'm too lazy to dig up but if I can paraphrase what he said, he wanted it to function on the basis of increased time on target -> increased damage. Naturally, very damaging to shields, which is good as shield AV is really lacking. |
Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
171
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Posted - 2015.03.30 12:37:00 -
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Justicar Karnellia wrote:Georgia Xavier wrote:Well in rattati's board on trello, it seems he is planning to have a heavy laser. I'm not sure if it will actually happen but one can hope Yeah there's a quote about it somewhere from him that I'm too lazy to dig up but if I can paraphrase what he said, he wanted it to function on the basis of increased time on target -> increased damage. Naturally, very damaging to shields, which is good as shield AV is really lacking.
https://trello.com/b/bfGqdj7S/ccp-rattati-s-big-board-of-things
^Here is source on what I posted
Scr nerf approaches.We shall see who truly knows how to wield God's wrath and heathens who wish to mimic the Amarr......
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1180
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Posted - 2015.03.30 12:40:00 -
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It wouldn't destroy the vehicle. It would kill the driver from inside.
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Loyal To The State
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Nirwanda Vaughns
1590
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Posted - 2015.03.30 13:03:00 -
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There already is one. its called Viktors NEG and get it to prof 5 and proto amarr assault with 3 damage mods and it'll do some pretty nice damage to a gunloggi.
As for a proper AV laser i imagine it'd be something similar to a cross between Forge and Scrambler rifle, a charged shot that wrecks shields
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
172
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Posted - 2015.03.30 13:56:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:There already is one. its called Viktors NEG and get it to prof 5 and proto amarr assault with 3 damage mods and it'll do some pretty nice damage to a gunloggi.
As for a proper AV laser i imagine it'd be something similar to a cross between Forge and Scrambler rifle, a charged shot that wrecks shields
It melts Caldari so quickly according to my experience
Scr nerf approaches.We shall see who truly knows how to wield God's wrath and heathens who wish to mimic the Amarr......
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