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DRT 99
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.26 14:40:00 -
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Ok so, those of you who are skilled into proto but dont use it - why dont you? Interested in everyone's reasons.
For me, its partly because i do well enough in advanced, but mostly because i know when i use proto im going to die to some bullshit like REs or HMG and get frustrated. So i stress less and have more fun in basic. |
XEROO COOL
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
1270
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Posted - 2015.03.26 14:43:00 -
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Run Basic BPO suits... to give redberries a fighting chance.
Xeroo.Cool on Skype.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
4403
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Posted - 2015.03.26 14:44:00 -
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I don't have any proto vehicles to use but i have to use proto modules and turrets when possible so that i can deal with proto AV.
Suit wise it is all BPO/APEX.
Disclaimer:
The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514
CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
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bane sieg
Eternal Beings
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Posted - 2015.03.26 14:44:00 -
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For the lols
I have but one non proto fit and it's a quafemando with quafe md
Otherwise it's full on proto 24/7
If you can afford it why wouldn't you run proto?
Logi mk.o sent ak.o sent mk.o assault mk.o assault gk.o assault ak.o assault ck.o scout mk.o commando mk.o commando ck.o
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Luk Manag
of Terror
TRE GAFFEL
713
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Posted - 2015.03.26 14:55:00 -
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It's funny, in all the FPS games I've played where everyone has the same hitpoints/loadouts I go through warmup play. I don't just sit down and play smart and fast, I build up to it, and then I try to hold that flow state as long as I can, but eventually I get tired and slow down. It doesn't matter how good my gear is, if I haven't warmed up, running prototype is basically a waste.
At other times, I've decided that I need to deny kills and try to end the match faster if possible. In those cases, I'd much rather kill myself when my demise is imminent, and I'm too hesitant when my suit is expensive. The Nomad with REs and Flaylock are perfect for going out in a blaze of spiteful fury.
Finally, STD LOGI BPOs are really all you need if you want to play a support logi. You're still going to want to fit prototype equipment, but it will fit if everything else is standard. It's almost sad, but you only need ADV or PRO if you want to play a slayer logi.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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Elpedo Hughes
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2015.03.26 15:01:00 -
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bane sieg wrote:For the lols
I have but one non proto fit and it's a quafemando with quafe md
Otherwise it's full on proto 24/7
If you can afford it why wouldn't you run proto?
Because they can't so use excuses like "I'm helping the community" or other bollocks  |
Raedon Vo-Graza
Armored Dragon Dust
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Posted - 2015.03.26 15:02:00 -
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BPO's
my corp used to have our own little event we called BPO Bananza, where we would do nothing but BPO. taught corp members to actually move up to a point and charge a position, learn to work with logi by not shying away from gunfire as much, and basically make it easier for other squad mates to continue forward should they die. actually worked pretty well. |
bane sieg
Eternal Beings
135
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Posted - 2015.03.26 15:06:00 -
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Elpedo Hughes wrote:bane sieg wrote:For the lols
I have but one non proto fit and it's a quafemando with quafe md
Otherwise it's full on proto 24/7
If you can afford it why wouldn't you run proto? Because they can't so use excuses like "I'm helping the community" or other bollocks
Nobody was helping the community when I was a noob. I took my proto stompings and kept pushing to get better, now it's my turn to do the proto stomping. Such is the cycle of life, I mean dust.
Logi mk.o sent ak.o sent mk.o assault mk.o assault gk.o assault ak.o assault ck.o scout mk.o commando mk.o commando ck.o
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Yeeeuuuupppp
950
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Posted - 2015.03.26 15:10:00 -
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rage
Sheeba Sheeba
PSN: GMANCASH
"I played Dust so long i grew a f--king afro"
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Aidualc
LATINOS KILLERS CORP
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2015.03.26 15:11:00 -
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because YOLO
Proto in publics has so many advantage vs adv, basic or milita.
In one match I play with my squad mates running logi-gall ... and suddenly appear 3 milita red berries front of me... pew pew pew.... 2 down with duvolle assault... 200 armor left but 25hp rep... red berrie shoot me, but do me less damage that rep... turn arround saying "holy cow !!!" and try to scape... pew pew pew...
The best thing that could happen to this game... is the Meta-lock... basic-adv publics will be more fun, because you will need more tactic and workteam. no only throw a core-granade and get 5 cheapest kills.
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1164
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Posted - 2015.03.26 15:15:00 -
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In endgame it's boring to use weak stuff.
If you have isk then you can use what you want.
Because if you're playing solo, you would be fked using std stuff. Try to play vs squad of gallogis, scouts, assaults and logistics.
Cuz for some using proto is fun.
Cuz for some not using proto is fun.
Cuz you have only 30 fitting space and 5-10 proto suits. There's no space for non proto suits.
Caldari Hero
Loyal To The State
Mejt0 Sale List
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
840
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Posted - 2015.03.26 15:25:00 -
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I use my proto rifles and modules regularly.
I do not run proto suits or sidearms because of ISK and overkill in pubs, but mosly because of ISK.
AKA - StarVenger- Horizons' Edge
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Nos Nothi
2610
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Posted - 2015.03.26 15:25:00 -
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I want to say something first.
If you actually thinking that your helping the community by stomping them relentlessly its the same thing as a bully who beats
the crap out of you everyday and says hes helping you. In the long run for both either you push through or give up.
Personally ill run a couple protosuits, for start of skirmish, Mk.0 scout stacked with biotics and uplinks, if i decide to defend
a point ill swith my other proto min scout with three complex hack mods knives and REs, if im looking for fun ill run my favorite
proto min scout with two COM Myos, one COM shield, knives, REs, two COM kins and reg BAR.
Otherwise basic/BPO/ADV with complex mods.
Autistic Obsession-Gods Eater Burst on VITA
Minmatar in game & out
Lone Wolf scout since 1.4 Mk.0/Gk.0
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
6819
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Posted - 2015.03.26 15:29:00 -
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I started running PRO a lot recently. There is no reason whatsoever besides the fact that they're above my BPO fits. |
CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
1979
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Posted - 2015.03.26 15:32:00 -
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There is no Proto gear in PS2, that's why I don't...
"The Boss NC Max" Destroying armour Ninja style, Mattocks=infantry tears, Flak Armor, nuff said.
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4234
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Posted - 2015.03.26 15:33:00 -
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The game is about being rich MF, that's why a don't use proto.
Pimp my Barge
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University
Ivy League
2630
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Posted - 2015.03.26 15:56:00 -
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Pretty much exclusively APEX or BPO.
On occasion I'll dip into advanced and Proto but not very often. It's more challenging to use lower tier stuff and besides the difference between the TTK on proto and basic isn't long enough to justify the expense as far as I'm concerned.
Plus it's funny as hell taking down a proto heavy with a standard PLC.
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BLOOD Ruler
VOLKOV INDUSTRIES
1507
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Posted - 2015.03.26 16:06:00 -
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Because I am good only using adv. and std. gear. If I use Proto gear and say " I got skill" then someone would say "No you don't , you're just a Proto using scrub". So basically I do it to prove I got skill and when i do kill a proto and they say " You're a ******* cheater, you *** &***** ******** mother ****** arse". Then I say " I beat you only using my std. (any weapon) and no damage mods. You're complaining? Scrub ALERT. Proto user- (crying,whining , that's, said with tears in his eye, I'm going to CCP to nerf you. You no skill cheating newb". What?
No way wll they listen to him and say it was op.
A few days later- on the forum (Random dev)- the (Any weapon) has been nerfed.
.......
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT????!!!!!!
I do it so I don't become one of them, those no skill chumps who only ruining the game so it favors them.
We have Ratatati now so it has been lowered down to real numbers and facts.
"Proto and proto users suck", that's my Moto.
For I... have... SKILL!!!, cue the awesome skill users only killing proto users.
There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell?
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Dreis Shadowweaver
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.03.26 16:38:00 -
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I use Proto so I don't become one of those scrubs who say 'I haz skillz!' even though they just went 8/11. 'But I was using STD, so that proves I'm gud!' 
I think those that say 'I do well in BPO/STD/MLT' actually do know that they're bad. They know that if they used Proto, they wouldn't be able to hold a > 2.00 K/D, and then they'd have to face the realisation that they don't have as much skill as they made out.
When people say 'I have a low K/D because I run BPO/STD/MLT', it's just a poor excuse to cover up their lack of skill. If these people are truly as good as they say, I challenge them to run exclusively Proto for a week, then post the pic of their > 10.00 K/D. Then, and only then, will I retract this post, and say 'Yes, you're right; you are simply so skilled that you need to limit yourself by using BPO/STD/MLT.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
You have a great K/D - HEAVYHITTER1
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.03.26 16:43:00 -
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I'm a pilot
I use proto cuz I like to not die 2 seconds after being seen by the first fool wandering around with AV.
Contests, Sales, Writing etc
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Tiny Pineapple
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
86
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Posted - 2015.03.26 16:55:00 -
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If I use proto, I will go isk negative every match.
So what if I have over 60 million isk?
I don't like losing money.
Stop judging me!
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Half of what I say is sarcasm. Don't take me too seriously.
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Meknow Intaki
303
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Posted - 2015.03.26 16:58:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.03.26 16:58:00 -
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Tiny Pineapple wrote:If I use proto, I will go isk negative every match.
So what if I have over 60 million isk?
I don't like losing money.
Stop judging me!
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I make a profit running Proto. Even if I didn't though, I have enough ISK to back me up till the servers die. 
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
You have a great K/D - HEAVYHITTER1
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norttheantiv
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:01:00 -
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Luk Manag wrote:It's funny, in all the FPS games I've played where everyone has the same hitpoints/loadouts I go through warmup play. I don't just sit down and play smart and fast, I build up to it, and then I try to hold that flow state as long as I can, but eventually I get tired and slow down. It doesn't matter how good my gear is, if I haven't warmed up, running prototype is basically a waste.
At other times, I've decided that I need to deny kills and try to end the match faster if possible. In those cases, I'd much rather kill myself when my demise is imminent, and I'm too hesitant when my suit is expensive. The Nomad with REs and Flaylock are perfect for going out in a blaze of spiteful fury.
Finally, STD LOGI BPOs are really all you need if you want to play a support logi. You're still going to want to fit prototype equipment, but it will fit if everything else is standard. It's almost sad, but you only need ADV or PRO if you want to play a slayer logi.
Why would I want to waste 100k of good equipment losing it because I can't tank at all? logi fits are fairly bad in a fight anyway, I don't know why you would want less highs and lows.
Also what is a slayer logi these days? I remember them, but no logi suit we have is on the same level these days.
Winner EU Squad Cup
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bane sieg
Eternal Beings
140
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:08:00 -
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I giggle when guys with over 100 mil isk run basic gear cause they don't want to spend the isk.
Logi mk.o sent ak.o sent mk.o assault mk.o assault gk.o assault ak.o assault ck.o scout mk.o commando mk.o commando ck.o
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Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
540
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:09:00 -
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I can't afford to run it. I'm a casual player so don't usually make a lot of isk on a regular basis. I think this is the biggest problem for proto suits and why proto should be restricted to the mode which earns the money to stay in them.
Death is a serious businessGǪ So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
1193
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:15:00 -
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I find Proto gear to be... boring quite frankly.
I just run Militia/ STD gear because I don't care about my KD/R, and come to a game just to shoot at stuff.
My KD/R is below/at 1 if I recall. Considering that's Militia/STD gear in a pool of ADV PRO gear, I'd say that's just fine.
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Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
714
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:25:00 -
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DRT 99 wrote:Ok so, those of you who are skilled into proto but dont use it - why dont you? Interested in everyone's reasons.
For me, its partly because i do well enough in advanced, but mostly because i know when i use proto im going to die to some bullshit like REs or HMG and get frustrated. So i stress less and have more fun in basic.
I generally play fairly high risk solo so it's just not worth it to go full proto, that and for some reason I do worse than I do in ADV or my quafe G1 and if I'm not making ISK I'm doing it wrong.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Nos Nothi
2611
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:30:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:I use Proto so I don't become one of those scrubs who say 'I haz skillz!' even though they just went 8/11. 'But I was using STD, so that proves I'm gud!' I think those that say 'I do well in BPO/STD/MLT' actually do know that they're bad. They know that if they used Proto, they wouldn't be able to hold a > 2.00 K/D, and then they'd have to face the realisation that they don't have as much skill as they made out. When people say 'I have a low K/D because I run BPO/STD/MLT', it's just a poor excuse to cover up their lack of skill. If these people are truly as good as they say, I challenge them to run exclusively Proto for a week, then post the pic of their > 10.00 K/D. Then, and only then, will I retract this post, and say 'Yes, you're right; you are simply so skilled that you need to limit yourself by using BPO/STD/MLT.
You can also reverse it. Some of it on both sides is ego. Actually lots of it on both sides of it is ego/pride.
'I run MLT cause i have lots of skill im not a scrub, AND i could stomp you in PRO anyday'
'I run PRO cause i have lots of skill im not a scrub, AND, i could stomp you in MLT anyday'
The ones not considered or told to 'Get Good' etc?
The people that just want to have fun, the ones that run PRO soly cause it looks cool, the ones that run ADV, the ones that
complain then take time to learn counters/tactics, and that guy going 8/11? Maybe h had a bad day, everyone does.
You've gotten really arrogant. Not liking were this is going Dreis. You seem to forget what bad days are.
Autistic Obsession-Gods Eater Burst on VITA
Minmatar in game & out
Lone Wolf scout since 1.4 Mk.0/Gk.0
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Ghost Kaisar
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:36:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:I use Proto so I don't become one of those scrubs who say 'I haz skillz!' even though they just went 8/11. 'But I was using STD, so that proves I'm gud!' I think those that say 'I do well in BPO/STD/MLT' actually do know that they're bad. They know that if they used Proto, they wouldn't be able to hold a > 2.00 K/D, and then they'd have to face the realisation that they don't have as much skill as they made out. When people say 'I have a low K/D because I run BPO/STD/MLT', it's just a poor excuse to cover up their lack of skill. If these people are truly as good as they say, I challenge them to run exclusively Proto for a week, then post the pic of their > 10.00 K/D. Then, and only then, will I retract this post, and say 'Yes, you're right; you are simply so skilled that you need to limit yourself by using BPO/STD/MLT. You can also reverse it. Some of it on both sides is ego. Actually lots of it on both sides of it is ego/pride. 'I run MLT cause i have lots of skill im not a scrub, AND i could stomp you in PRO anyday' 'I run PRO cause i have lots of skill im not a scrub, AND, i could stomp you in MLT anyday' The ones not considered or told to 'Get Good' etc? The people that just want to have fun, the ones that run PRO soly cause it looks cool, the ones that run ADV, the ones that complain then take time to learn counters/tactics, and that guy going 8/11? Maybe h had a bad day, everyone does. You've gotten really arrogant. Not liking were this is going Dreis. You seem to forget what bad days are.
Welcome to PC corps.
It's hard to not act like an elitist arrogant prick when you're in a PC corp. Mainly because any decent PC corp squad will ROFLSTOMP 90% of the squads you will ever encounter.
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Dreis Shadowweaver
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:37:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:You've gotten really arrogant. Not liking were this is going Dreis. You seem to forget what bad days are.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
I'm a monster
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:40:00 -
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As for me, I don't use proto gear on occasion because I like the freedom of being able to just go "F**K IT" and run right into the fray.
When I play in proto, my serious face goes on and I tend to pick engagements and prioritize winning the match overall.
In short: If I'm not in proto, I'm not taking the battle seriously and just having fun. If my team can't hack it, I'll probably end up pulling out proto and trying to one man army the thing.
Currently listening to: Max Anarchy OST
Old School Scout, watch out for the knives
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Mregomies
Beer For Evil Mercs
360
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:40:00 -
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because mk.0 scout have only 1 slot more (for damp) and my melee M/1 scout does it without it. min and cal logi = always proto
cal scout always proto
commando = proto
Suomi, Finland, PERKELE!
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:42:00 -
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Cost efficiency. I can run a adv suit with proto eq/mods for about half the cost of a true proto suit, but do basically just as well. If I die 3 times in a 225k is suit, I lost isk. If I die 3 times in my 95k isk adv suit, I still made isk. Considering that I die 4/5 times to some OHK shotgun/RE scrub or a sniper, I really dont see the benefit of proto in pubs.
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:43:00 -
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1. I'm a logi, my fully BPO suit with just a LaiDai/Six kin rep tool does me plenty and i die a lot so the 20k cost is pittence
2. Such bad lag i'd rather lose a proto suit to a player better than me and not one that simply has better internet.
3. In pubs only scrubs and pu**ies use full proto
4. I'm a penny pinchin Jew
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
proud C-II bpo owner
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Dreis Shadowweaver
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:44:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:As for me, I don't use proto gear on occasion because I like the freedom of being able to just go "F**K IT" and run right into the fray.
I have to use alts for that because I'm a scrub who cares about K/D. 
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Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
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Dreis Shadowweaver
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:45:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:3. In pubs only scrubs and pu**ies use full proto
Please cry directly into the bucket.
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:45:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:As for me, I don't use proto gear on occasion because I like the freedom of being able to just go "F**K IT" and run right into the fray. I have to use alts for that because I'm a scrub who cares about K/D.
K/D is pointless once you're in a good corp and have a reputation. Besides, I couldn't drop my K/D to scrub levels even if I tried.
Currently listening to: Max Anarchy OST
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Jakkal Shoobah
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
98
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:46:00 -
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Why do I run proto ? To teach the guys who pull out their proto ar and kill me in my quafe gal assault after I kill them.
My quafe gal assault with one damage mod and a basic AR couldn't take on your duvolle , allotec, or creodron when we exchanged fire ?
Ok how about a triple damage nodded creodron breach ? Mmm that feels good. What's that ? Did I get salt in your mouth ? Then the rest of his team faces the consequences until someone gets tired of my **** and puts their balls in my face.
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Dreis Shadowweaver
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:48:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:As for me, I don't use proto gear on occasion because I like the freedom of being able to just go "F**K IT" and run right into the fray. I have to use alts for that because I'm a scrub who cares about K/D. K/D is pointless once you're in a good corp and have a reputation. Besides, I couldn't drop my K/D to scrub levels even if I tried.
I wish I could not care, but I haven't fully built my reputation yet. My PC career is just starting.
And I thought that it was people with high K/D's who were scrubs, not people with low K/D's. 
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Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:53:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:3. In pubs only scrubs and pu**ies use full proto Please cry directly into the bucket.
I only cry tears of laughter when i see a bunch of your guys still struggle to win when they're chuckin the proto out Vs a bunch of randoms. So funny
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
proud C-II bpo owner
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Vitharr Foebane
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:54:00 -
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I don't run proto usually,every now and then i run it for a round to remind my self that I spent millions of SP on my suits and weapons. The reason I don't is simple I adore my Templar gear >.<
Amarr Omnisoldier: Assault, Commando, Logistics, Scout, Sentinel at V
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Regnier Feros
Pielords
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:57:00 -
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I'm a hoarder.............
On a serious note I only use proto if the majority of the enemy team uses it.
"You're like a she-male.. hates gym, doesn't know how to be alpha.. you'll stay in the friendzone for life" -Senpai
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Demandred Moores
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:58:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:I use Proto so I don't become one of those scrubs who say 'I haz skillz!' even though they just went 8/11. 'But I was using STD, so that proves I'm gud!' I think those that say 'I do well in BPO/STD/MLT' actually do know that they're bad. They know that if they used Proto, they wouldn't be able to hold a > 2.00 K/D, and then they'd have to face the realisation that they don't have as much skill as they made out. When people say 'I have a low K/D because I run BPO/STD/MLT', it's just a poor excuse to cover up their lack of skill. If these people are truly as good as they say, I challenge them to run exclusively Proto for a week, then post the pic of their > 10.00 K/D. Then, and only then, will I retract this post, and say 'Yes, you're right; you are simply so skilled that you need to limit yourself by using BPO/STD/MLT.
So by your logic I use a Quafe min assault with krins damage mods regulator and kin cat with a acr and toxin and go 27-3 then next match I use the same thing and only go 10-10 against a full sqd of nf or fa while I'm playing with a whole apex/bpo sqd and I'm no good? Lol disgruntled vet here thinking your ego exceeds logic. I could go hard as **** all the time and bring my 1.92 back up above a 2.0 but I'm paying for ***** and giggles half the time. Though I do proto stomp every few matches or when I have my typical sqd with me. |
Dreis Shadowweaver
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
2355
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Posted - 2015.03.26 18:16:00 -
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Demandred Moores wrote:So by your logic I use a Quafe min assault with krins damage mods regulator and kin cat with a acr and toxin and go 27-3 then next match I use the same thing and only go 10-10 against a full sqd of nf or fa while I'm playing with a whole apex/bpo sqd and I'm no good? Lol disgruntled vet here thinking your ego exceeds logic. I could go hard as **** all the time and bring my 1.92 back up above a 2.0 but I'm playing for ***** and giggles half the time. Though I do proto stomp every few matches or when I have my typical sqd with me.
I'm saying that people who say that they need to limit themselves by running STD/MLT are deluding themselves, and are not as skilled as they say they are.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
I'm a monster
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
3023
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Posted - 2015.03.26 18:25:00 -
[46] - Quote
Why?
Because proto is unnecessary if my weapons of choice OHKO everything. I really starting to like my forge when dealing with proto gang-bangers.
Plasma Cannon :3
Anti-FoTM Prof. V
Forum Scavenger Prof. V
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
3200
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Posted - 2015.03.26 18:28:00 -
[47] - Quote
You max your cores, get your bonuses up, and every fit is a proto. So, at that point, the cheaper the better. All my fits come in under 35k ISK (most uner 20k), and I don't as a rule use BPOs.
KDR matchmaking fixes everything but the stupid purple Quafe stuff.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
17845
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Posted - 2015.03.26 20:02:00 -
[48] - Quote
PRO Tanks are expensive and ADV tanks are just as nasty.
Raphael: I'm warning you. Do not leave me here. I will find you.
Castiel: Maybe one day. Today you're my little bitch
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dust 514 shadow
Eternal Beings
4
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Posted - 2015.03.26 20:10:00 -
[49] - Quote
I would run out of isk if I proto stomped and Proto gear is usallyt 2 hit points better than standard. I use proto gear in PC battles though. I use proto swarm launchers, nova knives, and snipers. |
Jammer Jalapeno
Dox You.
Proficiency V.
187
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Posted - 2015.03.26 20:18:00 -
[50] - Quote
Well I just love my templar gear and my pretty pink lasers.
But if there is a pesky tank/lav trolling about I'm very tempted to pull out my proto suit with the lai dai's 
MmMmMm TanKs....delicious TanKs
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Killer's Coys
Prima Gallicus
261
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Posted - 2015.03.26 20:19:00 -
[51] - Quote
XEROO COOL wrote:Run Basic BPO suits... to give redberries a fighting chance.
+1
I'm sorry for my bad English writting and comprehension.
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bane sieg
Eternal Beings
144
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Posted - 2015.03.26 20:20:00 -
[52] - Quote
I probably would run cheaper gear sometimes if they would give me more slots for fittings. I currently have 10 suits at lvl5 which only allows me a couple fits for each suit and I have at least 10 fittings for logis and commandos alone.
Logi mk.o sent ak.o sent mk.o assault mk.o assault gk.o assault ak.o assault ck.o scout mk.o commando mk.o commando ck.o
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Foehammerr
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
160
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Posted - 2015.03.26 20:23:00 -
[53] - Quote
If you have enough SP to effectively use high meta level fittings, there's only one reason you don't or can't:
You're too poor.
De Opresso Liber
Beta Vet since 2/5/2013
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Vicious Minotaur
2245
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Posted - 2015.03.26 20:36:00 -
[54] - Quote
Don't feel like it.
I am a minotaur.
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Refreak 44
DEPT OF CORRUPTION
14
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Posted - 2015.03.26 20:47:00 -
[55] - Quote
I paid for my shiny, purple suit, so I'm going to use my not so shiny(anymore), purple suit.
\o/
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2Berries
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
765
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Posted - 2015.03.26 21:36:00 -
[56] - Quote
Figured i should get good with the basics so when i went proto i wasn't just throwing isk away. I have 5 proto suits i never wear because i'm good with the basics so why throw the isk away.
The true value of proto gear is the bonuses you recieve, not the suits themselves.
That & the proto caldari scout looks like crap next to the kaalakiota scout!
Evening Boys, Hows the water?
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1595
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Posted - 2015.03.26 21:39:00 -
[57] - Quote
I din't run proto because protostomping is the bane of this game, although proto gear itself is not yhe main problem, and it is too hypocritical for me to complain about it, then engage in it.
It is simple to me. Player A is 6'6", fast and with a 40 inch vertical jump. Player B us 5'4" and only average athletically. If they play basketball, neither player will have fun unless A is sadistic or has serious ego problems. It is neither A or Bs fault. Neither is the bad guy or too blame for this. If they are going to have fun playing though the solution MUST come from A. A must handicap himself so he will be challenged and B have a chance of winning. If A doesn't do this, then he us being an ass. If he blames B for the problem, he is a bigger ass, and if he invites 5 of his 6+ footer friends to play on his team against players like B, then he probably plays Dust in a big corp.
Because, that's why.
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
General Tso's Alliance
199
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Posted - 2015.03.26 21:42:00 -
[58] - Quote
Unless I'm with a squad doing the same why waste the isk? |
Patrick57
9856
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Posted - 2015.03.26 21:50:00 -
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BLOOD Ruler wrote:Because I am good only using adv. and std. gear. If I use Proto gear and say " I got skill" then someone would say "No you don't , you're just a Proto using scrub". So basically I do it to prove I got skill and when i do kill a proto and they say " You're a ******* cheater, you *** &***** ******** mother ****** arse". Then I say " I beat you only using my std. (any weapon) and no damage mods. You're complaining? Scrub ALERT. Proto user- (crying,whining , that's, said with tears in his eye, I'm going to CCP to nerf you. You no skill cheating newb". What?
No way wll they listen to him and say it was op.
A few days later- on the forum (Random dev)- the (Any weapon) has been nerfed.
.......
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT????!!!!!!
I do it so I don't become one of them, those no skill chumps who only ruining the game so it favors them.
We have Ratatati now so it has been lowered down to real numbers and facts.
"Proto and proto users suck", that's my Moto.
For I... have... SKILL!!!, cue the awesome skill users only killing proto users.
what I'm getting from that first paragraph is that you care about what other people think of you. Which makes me sad |
Union118
Heaven's Lost Property
493
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Posted - 2015.03.26 21:59:00 -
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DRT 99 wrote:Ok so, those of you who are skilled into proto but dont use it - why dont you? Interested in everyone's reasons.
For me, its partly because i do well enough in advanced, but mostly because i know when i use proto im going to die to some bullshit like REs or HMG and get frustrated. So i stress less and have more fun in basic.
Cost to much hard earned isk. Its op against noobs. Its no fun to use.
Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
8841
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Posted - 2015.03.26 22:09:00 -
[61] - Quote
Its almost like some of the people who posted didn't actually read the headline...
For me, its because I can't afford it. I am squishy, and being a hacker is a very vulnerable profession, so I stick to cheaper fits as I am naturally going to die quite a bit. Especially when my team really isn't doing anything.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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robin williams' ghost
whisky tango foxtrot sir
1117
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Posted - 2015.03.27 00:59:00 -
[62] - Quote
Ewww poor people...
Robin Williams endorses this corp
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PLAYSTTION
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
901
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Posted - 2015.03.27 01:08:00 -
[63] - Quote
I don't usually run Proto cause I can't make the isk back even though I can afford it. BPO and Advanced are enough for me. BPO shotgun scout also reduces the price a lot for scouting. With BPO and advanced I can make 10-20mil isk a week.
Gassault Galogi Galsent
Open Beta Vet - 39 mil sp
Director of Corrosive Synergy
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Dreis Shadowweaver
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
2373
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Posted - 2015.03.27 15:39:00 -
[64] - Quote
PLAYSTTION wrote:I don't usually run Proto cause I can't make the isk back even though I can afford it. BPO and Advanced are enough for me. BPO shotgun scout also reduces the price a lot for scouting. With BPO and advanced I can make 10-20mil isk a week.
Ok, so what are you gonna do with that ISK?
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
I'm a monster
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Vulpes Dolosus
molon labe.
General Tso's Alliance
3242
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Posted - 2015.03.27 15:42:00 -
[65] - Quote
I literally do not do better using higher tier gear. Also I hate going negative.
Ironically, I only fly Proto dropships.
Dust is there! I was real!
Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
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DDx77
The Exemplars
176
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Posted - 2015.03.27 16:12:00 -
[66] - Quote
I usually only use full proto when I play PC
Occasionally I'll fit a proto weapon to an adv suit
I feel that in pubs based on my style of play using proto is not going to give me that much more of an advantage
And if I have a bad match losing proto in that match will only drive me more crazy
May the Dark shine your way
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Genral69 death
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
132
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Posted - 2015.03.27 16:20:00 -
[67] - Quote
DRT 99 wrote:Ok so, those of you who are skilled into proto but dont use it - why dont you? Interested in everyone's reasons.
For me, its partly because i do well enough in advanced, but mostly because i know when i use proto im going to die to some bullshit like REs or HMG and get frustrated. So i stress less and have more fun in basic.
I run proto alot but when I'm not. I'm trying strange fits on advanced suits and testing them out (this is how I got my favorite suit)
Depending on the match o will go proto. In cases where I'm being ambushed by several proto's assault or scout I will either go go proto heavy with burst hmg or sniper from VERY far away. But recently I've been ambushed by several ion cannon and I can find a counter I tryed Av but that's doesn't work.
General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
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Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Inc.
Negative-Feedback
1449
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Posted - 2015.03.27 17:14:00 -
[68] - Quote
Proto in Pubs is for tossers and sheep shaggers.
Proto is for FW and PC, imho.
IF YOU CAN READ THIS YOU DON'T NEED GLASSES
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Regis Blackbird
DUST University
Ivy League
679
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Posted - 2015.03.27 18:20:00 -
[69] - Quote
I have skilled the following to Proto (Caldari):
Scout
Heavy
Assault
Logi
Most of them I skilled primarily for the bonuses, but I run proto Logi on occasion.
As IWS stated, the difference in TTK does not justify the cost (usually). |
syzygiet
39
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Posted - 2015.03.27 18:28:00 -
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i have 40 million sp and proto only the min logi, and i run it only in pc for a grand total of 10 times ( i dont play pc much)
I run advance weps and suits and proto reps, the only weapon i run proto consistently is the IAF on an advance heavy.
the result is i have a good amount of isk, 400 mil after I spent 150 mil on a bpo code |
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
716
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Posted - 2015.03.27 18:41:00 -
[71] - Quote
I run basic for more of a challenge.
I find your lack of heaviness... disturbing...
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PLAYSTTION
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
930
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Posted - 2015.03.28 03:14:00 -
[72] - Quote
Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:I don't usually run Proto cause I can't make the isk back even though I can afford it. BPO and Advanced are enough for me. BPO shotgun scout also reduces the price a lot for scouting. With BPO and advanced I can make 10-20mil isk a week. Ok, so what are you gonna do with that ISK?
Build it up. When I get over 100mil I'm giving handouts. Mostly to corp though for PC.
Gassault Galogi Galsent
Open Beta Vet - 39 mil sp
Director of Corrosive Synergy
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Dreis Shadowweaver
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
2384
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Posted - 2015.03.28 03:18:00 -
[73] - Quote
I just went 40/3 in a Dom running an ADV Amarr Assault. I don't use Proto because I need it, but because I want to run it.
Forgot to take a picture, but I could get people to verify this. 
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
I'm a monster
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Denchlad 7
Negative-Feedback.
1844
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Posted - 2015.03.28 03:27:00 -
[74] - Quote
Because its my first game of the day and I cba to waste a tiny amount on a full proto fit till im warmed up.
"Dench stop hitting your head you Caldari pinball" - m621 zma
Currently on Dust hiatus.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
10013
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Posted - 2015.03.28 03:33:00 -
[75] - Quote
I use Proto because, Gallente.
Wait? Wrong thread?
As long as 5/6 (83%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
10013
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Posted - 2015.03.28 03:40:00 -
[76] - Quote
Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:I just went 40/3 in a Dom running an ADV Amarr Assault. I don't use Proto because I need it, but because I want to run it. Forgot to take a picture, but I could get people to verify this.
I go double digits and no or little deaths whether I'm in Basic ADV or Proto.
Blueberries will always be stupid and I'm just a good player as well. There is no bullshitting my way, sugar coating that or ***** footing around with that.
No matter what suit I use I still do good, but it's much easier for people to blame it on proto gear.
You can give an idiot all the SP, ISK and proto in the world but that doesn't mean he's still not a **** player, just look at Contrabanjoe.
As long as 5/6 (83%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
1892
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Posted - 2015.03.28 06:00:00 -
[77] - Quote
Proto, as with tanks, is mutual.
Crush them
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bathtubist
TRUE SAVAGES
Learning Alliance
65
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Posted - 2015.03.28 06:03:00 -
[78] - Quote
DRT 99 wrote:Ok so, those of you who are skilled into proto but dont use it - why dont you? Interested in everyone's reasons.
For me, its partly because i do well enough in advanced, but mostly because i know when i use proto im going to die to some bullshit like REs or HMG and get frustrated. So i stress less and have more fun in basic.
If my team is squishing the red team I suit on my std or ADV suits
Redberrys destroying the place I put on my Proto
If my team and redberrys are doing a war like battle I put on my Proto logi |
poopy pantzs
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2015.03.28 06:14:00 -
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What's a proto?!? |
Starlight Burner
ROGUE RELICS
183
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Posted - 2015.03.28 06:17:00 -
[80] - Quote
XEROO COOL wrote:Run Basic BPO suits... to give redberries a fighting chance.
Thank god for CCP Rattati!
Rogue Relics is my home away from home.
Thank you CCP for getting DUST 514 back on track!
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Nos Nothi
4483
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Posted - 2015.03.28 06:41:00 -
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Either my suit is proto or my tank is proto (and if I'm in a tank I use a BPO suit; no reason to add to the restock bill when the suit doesn't even do anything).
Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'.
And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
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jane stalin
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
249
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Posted - 2015.03.28 07:20:00 -
[82] - Quote
I have 130 million ISK so I could use proto weapons however
I don't mind using standard weapons because it makes the game more interesting,
Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:
I'm saying that people who say that they need to limit themselves by running STD/MLT are deluding themselves, and are not as skilled as they say they are.
I do what makes the game the most interesting, I have no delusion about being good I am actually bad and I know it.
Who is saying they NEED to limit themselves to STD/MLT gear because they have delusions about being fantastic?
Exactly How good are they claiming to be?
Do understand that the reason most people use standard gear has nothing to do with deluding themselves about being good? |
Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
2592
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Posted - 2015.03.28 12:35:00 -
[83] - Quote
Can't afford to run proto, it's a combination of not being good enough and trying to one-man-army every match.
Also, ashamed to stomp noobs while wearing proto. The NPE is bad enough already without vets grinding noobs into paste.
Do very occasionally allow myself to pull out proto if i know i'm going up against proto spamming players/squad.
i need the training that the lower tiers gives a player - you have to play smarter/better if you still want to make an impact in lower tier gear. This past week i've been starting to think about moving down to standard/bpo for pubs but gotta skill up the Raven/Vaor bpos first.
PSN: RationalSpark
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Vyzion Eyri
warravens
2688
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Posted - 2015.03.28 12:48:00 -
[84] - Quote
All the profit I make in pub matches goes to my ISK reserves for having fun with dropships, and stocking up prototype suits for PC/FW. If I just went and used it willy nilly with my highly aggressive, careless play style, it's just a waste of ISK that I could be using for hundreds of more fun suits, and of course more dropships.
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
987
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Posted - 2015.03.28 13:12:00 -
[85] - Quote
On the ground, the most fun and profit to be had is running free suits. Untill I meet a wall of proto, then the fun evaporates.
Even so in try-hard mode i run my ADV Min Assault, the only things proto on it is the core locus 'nades and the core flaylock.
But since my only proto suit is the min logi, its pretty hard to become a one man slayer of red berries with a rep tool.
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
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