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DRT 99
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.26 14:40:00 -
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Ok so, those of you who are skilled into proto but dont use it - why dont you? Interested in everyone's reasons.
For me, its partly because i do well enough in advanced, but mostly because i know when i use proto im going to die to some bullshit like REs or HMG and get frustrated. So i stress less and have more fun in basic. |
XEROO COOL
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
1270
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Posted - 2015.03.26 14:43:00 -
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Run Basic BPO suits... to give redberries a fighting chance.
Xeroo.Cool on Skype.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
4403
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Posted - 2015.03.26 14:44:00 -
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I don't have any proto vehicles to use but i have to use proto modules and turrets when possible so that i can deal with proto AV.
Suit wise it is all BPO/APEX.
Disclaimer:
The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514
CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
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bane sieg
Eternal Beings
133
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Posted - 2015.03.26 14:44:00 -
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For the lols
I have but one non proto fit and it's a quafemando with quafe md
Otherwise it's full on proto 24/7
If you can afford it why wouldn't you run proto?
Logi mk.o sent ak.o sent mk.o assault mk.o assault gk.o assault ak.o assault ck.o scout mk.o commando mk.o commando ck.o
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Luk Manag
of Terror
TRE GAFFEL
713
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Posted - 2015.03.26 14:55:00 -
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It's funny, in all the FPS games I've played where everyone has the same hitpoints/loadouts I go through warmup play. I don't just sit down and play smart and fast, I build up to it, and then I try to hold that flow state as long as I can, but eventually I get tired and slow down. It doesn't matter how good my gear is, if I haven't warmed up, running prototype is basically a waste.
At other times, I've decided that I need to deny kills and try to end the match faster if possible. In those cases, I'd much rather kill myself when my demise is imminent, and I'm too hesitant when my suit is expensive. The Nomad with REs and Flaylock are perfect for going out in a blaze of spiteful fury.
Finally, STD LOGI BPOs are really all you need if you want to play a support logi. You're still going to want to fit prototype equipment, but it will fit if everything else is standard. It's almost sad, but you only need ADV or PRO if you want to play a slayer logi.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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Elpedo Hughes
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2015.03.26 15:01:00 -
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bane sieg wrote:For the lols
I have but one non proto fit and it's a quafemando with quafe md
Otherwise it's full on proto 24/7
If you can afford it why wouldn't you run proto?
Because they can't so use excuses like "I'm helping the community" or other bollocks  |
Raedon Vo-Graza
Armored Dragon Dust
72
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Posted - 2015.03.26 15:02:00 -
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BPO's
my corp used to have our own little event we called BPO Bananza, where we would do nothing but BPO. taught corp members to actually move up to a point and charge a position, learn to work with logi by not shying away from gunfire as much, and basically make it easier for other squad mates to continue forward should they die. actually worked pretty well. |
bane sieg
Eternal Beings
135
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Posted - 2015.03.26 15:06:00 -
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Elpedo Hughes wrote:bane sieg wrote:For the lols
I have but one non proto fit and it's a quafemando with quafe md
Otherwise it's full on proto 24/7
If you can afford it why wouldn't you run proto? Because they can't so use excuses like "I'm helping the community" or other bollocks
Nobody was helping the community when I was a noob. I took my proto stompings and kept pushing to get better, now it's my turn to do the proto stomping. Such is the cycle of life, I mean dust.
Logi mk.o sent ak.o sent mk.o assault mk.o assault gk.o assault ak.o assault ck.o scout mk.o commando mk.o commando ck.o
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Yeeeuuuupppp
950
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Posted - 2015.03.26 15:10:00 -
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rage
Sheeba Sheeba
PSN: GMANCASH
"I played Dust so long i grew a f--king afro"
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Aidualc
LATINOS KILLERS CORP
Dark Taboo
117
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Posted - 2015.03.26 15:11:00 -
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because YOLO
Proto in publics has so many advantage vs adv, basic or milita.
In one match I play with my squad mates running logi-gall ... and suddenly appear 3 milita red berries front of me... pew pew pew.... 2 down with duvolle assault... 200 armor left but 25hp rep... red berrie shoot me, but do me less damage that rep... turn arround saying "holy cow !!!" and try to scape... pew pew pew...
The best thing that could happen to this game... is the Meta-lock... basic-adv publics will be more fun, because you will need more tactic and workteam. no only throw a core-granade and get 5 cheapest kills.
-- LKC -- Tomate Pote --
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1164
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Posted - 2015.03.26 15:15:00 -
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In endgame it's boring to use weak stuff.
If you have isk then you can use what you want.
Because if you're playing solo, you would be fked using std stuff. Try to play vs squad of gallogis, scouts, assaults and logistics.
Cuz for some using proto is fun.
Cuz for some not using proto is fun.
Cuz you have only 30 fitting space and 5-10 proto suits. There's no space for non proto suits.
Caldari Hero
Loyal To The State
Mejt0 Sale List
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
840
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Posted - 2015.03.26 15:25:00 -
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I use my proto rifles and modules regularly.
I do not run proto suits or sidearms because of ISK and overkill in pubs, but mosly because of ISK.
AKA - StarVenger- Horizons' Edge
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Nos Nothi
2610
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Posted - 2015.03.26 15:25:00 -
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I want to say something first.
If you actually thinking that your helping the community by stomping them relentlessly its the same thing as a bully who beats
the crap out of you everyday and says hes helping you. In the long run for both either you push through or give up.
Personally ill run a couple protosuits, for start of skirmish, Mk.0 scout stacked with biotics and uplinks, if i decide to defend
a point ill swith my other proto min scout with three complex hack mods knives and REs, if im looking for fun ill run my favorite
proto min scout with two COM Myos, one COM shield, knives, REs, two COM kins and reg BAR.
Otherwise basic/BPO/ADV with complex mods.
Autistic Obsession-Gods Eater Burst on VITA
Minmatar in game & out
Lone Wolf scout since 1.4 Mk.0/Gk.0
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
6819
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Posted - 2015.03.26 15:29:00 -
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I started running PRO a lot recently. There is no reason whatsoever besides the fact that they're above my BPO fits. |
CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
1979
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Posted - 2015.03.26 15:32:00 -
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There is no Proto gear in PS2, that's why I don't...
"The Boss NC Max" Destroying armour Ninja style, Mattocks=infantry tears, Flak Armor, nuff said.
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4234
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Posted - 2015.03.26 15:33:00 -
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The game is about being rich MF, that's why a don't use proto.
Pimp my Barge
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University
Ivy League
2630
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Posted - 2015.03.26 15:56:00 -
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Pretty much exclusively APEX or BPO.
On occasion I'll dip into advanced and Proto but not very often. It's more challenging to use lower tier stuff and besides the difference between the TTK on proto and basic isn't long enough to justify the expense as far as I'm concerned.
Plus it's funny as hell taking down a proto heavy with a standard PLC.
CPM 1 member
CEO of DUST University
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BLOOD Ruler
VOLKOV INDUSTRIES
1507
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Posted - 2015.03.26 16:06:00 -
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Because I am good only using adv. and std. gear. If I use Proto gear and say " I got skill" then someone would say "No you don't , you're just a Proto using scrub". So basically I do it to prove I got skill and when i do kill a proto and they say " You're a ******* cheater, you *** &***** ******** mother ****** arse". Then I say " I beat you only using my std. (any weapon) and no damage mods. You're complaining? Scrub ALERT. Proto user- (crying,whining , that's, said with tears in his eye, I'm going to CCP to nerf you. You no skill cheating newb". What?
No way wll they listen to him and say it was op.
A few days later- on the forum (Random dev)- the (Any weapon) has been nerfed.
.......
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT????!!!!!!
I do it so I don't become one of them, those no skill chumps who only ruining the game so it favors them.
We have Ratatati now so it has been lowered down to real numbers and facts.
"Proto and proto users suck", that's my Moto.
For I... have... SKILL!!!, cue the awesome skill users only killing proto users.
There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell?
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Dreis Shadowweaver
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
2351
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Posted - 2015.03.26 16:38:00 -
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I use Proto so I don't become one of those scrubs who say 'I haz skillz!' even though they just went 8/11. 'But I was using STD, so that proves I'm gud!' 
I think those that say 'I do well in BPO/STD/MLT' actually do know that they're bad. They know that if they used Proto, they wouldn't be able to hold a > 2.00 K/D, and then they'd have to face the realisation that they don't have as much skill as they made out.
When people say 'I have a low K/D because I run BPO/STD/MLT', it's just a poor excuse to cover up their lack of skill. If these people are truly as good as they say, I challenge them to run exclusively Proto for a week, then post the pic of their > 10.00 K/D. Then, and only then, will I retract this post, and say 'Yes, you're right; you are simply so skilled that you need to limit yourself by using BPO/STD/MLT.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
You have a great K/D - HEAVYHITTER1
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.03.26 16:43:00 -
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I'm a pilot
I use proto cuz I like to not die 2 seconds after being seen by the first fool wandering around with AV.
Contests, Sales, Writing etc
Fly Safe
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Tiny Pineapple
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
86
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Posted - 2015.03.26 16:55:00 -
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If I use proto, I will go isk negative every match.
So what if I have over 60 million isk?
I don't like losing money.
Stop judging me!
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Half of what I say is sarcasm. Don't take me too seriously.
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Meknow Intaki
303
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Posted - 2015.03.26 16:58:00 -
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Cost vs return! =ƒÿö |
Dreis Shadowweaver
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
2352
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Posted - 2015.03.26 16:58:00 -
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Tiny Pineapple wrote:If I use proto, I will go isk negative every match.
So what if I have over 60 million isk?
I don't like losing money.
Stop judging me!
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I make a profit running Proto. Even if I didn't though, I have enough ISK to back me up till the servers die. 
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
You have a great K/D - HEAVYHITTER1
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norttheantiv
Negative-Feedback.
182
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:01:00 -
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Luk Manag wrote:It's funny, in all the FPS games I've played where everyone has the same hitpoints/loadouts I go through warmup play. I don't just sit down and play smart and fast, I build up to it, and then I try to hold that flow state as long as I can, but eventually I get tired and slow down. It doesn't matter how good my gear is, if I haven't warmed up, running prototype is basically a waste.
At other times, I've decided that I need to deny kills and try to end the match faster if possible. In those cases, I'd much rather kill myself when my demise is imminent, and I'm too hesitant when my suit is expensive. The Nomad with REs and Flaylock are perfect for going out in a blaze of spiteful fury.
Finally, STD LOGI BPOs are really all you need if you want to play a support logi. You're still going to want to fit prototype equipment, but it will fit if everything else is standard. It's almost sad, but you only need ADV or PRO if you want to play a slayer logi.
Why would I want to waste 100k of good equipment losing it because I can't tank at all? logi fits are fairly bad in a fight anyway, I don't know why you would want less highs and lows.
Also what is a slayer logi these days? I remember them, but no logi suit we have is on the same level these days.
Winner EU Squad Cup
Go Go Power Rangers!
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bane sieg
Eternal Beings
140
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:08:00 -
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I giggle when guys with over 100 mil isk run basic gear cause they don't want to spend the isk.
Logi mk.o sent ak.o sent mk.o assault mk.o assault gk.o assault ak.o assault ck.o scout mk.o commando mk.o commando ck.o
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Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
540
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:09:00 -
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I can't afford to run it. I'm a casual player so don't usually make a lot of isk on a regular basis. I think this is the biggest problem for proto suits and why proto should be restricted to the mode which earns the money to stay in them.
Death is a serious businessGǪ So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
1193
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:15:00 -
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I find Proto gear to be... boring quite frankly.
I just run Militia/ STD gear because I don't care about my KD/R, and come to a game just to shoot at stuff.
My KD/R is below/at 1 if I recall. Considering that's Militia/STD gear in a pool of ADV PRO gear, I'd say that's just fine.
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU
Dust to Dust
Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
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Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
714
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:25:00 -
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DRT 99 wrote:Ok so, those of you who are skilled into proto but dont use it - why dont you? Interested in everyone's reasons.
For me, its partly because i do well enough in advanced, but mostly because i know when i use proto im going to die to some bullshit like REs or HMG and get frustrated. So i stress less and have more fun in basic.
I generally play fairly high risk solo so it's just not worth it to go full proto, that and for some reason I do worse than I do in ADV or my quafe G1 and if I'm not making ISK I'm doing it wrong.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Nos Nothi
2611
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:30:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:I use Proto so I don't become one of those scrubs who say 'I haz skillz!' even though they just went 8/11. 'But I was using STD, so that proves I'm gud!' I think those that say 'I do well in BPO/STD/MLT' actually do know that they're bad. They know that if they used Proto, they wouldn't be able to hold a > 2.00 K/D, and then they'd have to face the realisation that they don't have as much skill as they made out. When people say 'I have a low K/D because I run BPO/STD/MLT', it's just a poor excuse to cover up their lack of skill. If these people are truly as good as they say, I challenge them to run exclusively Proto for a week, then post the pic of their > 10.00 K/D. Then, and only then, will I retract this post, and say 'Yes, you're right; you are simply so skilled that you need to limit yourself by using BPO/STD/MLT.
You can also reverse it. Some of it on both sides is ego. Actually lots of it on both sides of it is ego/pride.
'I run MLT cause i have lots of skill im not a scrub, AND i could stomp you in PRO anyday'
'I run PRO cause i have lots of skill im not a scrub, AND, i could stomp you in MLT anyday'
The ones not considered or told to 'Get Good' etc?
The people that just want to have fun, the ones that run PRO soly cause it looks cool, the ones that run ADV, the ones that
complain then take time to learn counters/tactics, and that guy going 8/11? Maybe h had a bad day, everyone does.
You've gotten really arrogant. Not liking were this is going Dreis. You seem to forget what bad days are.
Autistic Obsession-Gods Eater Burst on VITA
Minmatar in game & out
Lone Wolf scout since 1.4 Mk.0/Gk.0
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Ghost Kaisar
Negative-Feedback
10804
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:36:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:I use Proto so I don't become one of those scrubs who say 'I haz skillz!' even though they just went 8/11. 'But I was using STD, so that proves I'm gud!' I think those that say 'I do well in BPO/STD/MLT' actually do know that they're bad. They know that if they used Proto, they wouldn't be able to hold a > 2.00 K/D, and then they'd have to face the realisation that they don't have as much skill as they made out. When people say 'I have a low K/D because I run BPO/STD/MLT', it's just a poor excuse to cover up their lack of skill. If these people are truly as good as they say, I challenge them to run exclusively Proto for a week, then post the pic of their > 10.00 K/D. Then, and only then, will I retract this post, and say 'Yes, you're right; you are simply so skilled that you need to limit yourself by using BPO/STD/MLT. You can also reverse it. Some of it on both sides is ego. Actually lots of it on both sides of it is ego/pride. 'I run MLT cause i have lots of skill im not a scrub, AND i could stomp you in PRO anyday' 'I run PRO cause i have lots of skill im not a scrub, AND, i could stomp you in MLT anyday' The ones not considered or told to 'Get Good' etc? The people that just want to have fun, the ones that run PRO soly cause it looks cool, the ones that run ADV, the ones that complain then take time to learn counters/tactics, and that guy going 8/11? Maybe h had a bad day, everyone does. You've gotten really arrogant. Not liking were this is going Dreis. You seem to forget what bad days are.
Welcome to PC corps.
It's hard to not act like an elitist arrogant prick when you're in a PC corp. Mainly because any decent PC corp squad will ROFLSTOMP 90% of the squads you will ever encounter.
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