DUST Search - Concerning The ADS

DUST Fiend wrote:

Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:

Its still a dropship and not a gunship.

LMFAO at people using it as a dropship in this game, outside of the initial drop.

You can get some mileage, again, if you're in a well oiled squad, which is totally fine. But again, this is done better by the ADS, the ASSAULT craft, that brings a STRIKE team with it. Standard dropships as transport is a joke thanks to how slow they are, and how they take two people to provide anything other than spawns and scans.

Also, fitting an ADS with even one side gun, in this AV environment, is risky business at best. So, that's a 3 man crew, plus yourself. You won't be dropping much.

They need to change the name of Dropship to Gunship and be done with it, because we currently have no troop transport oriented ariel vehicles in DUST. They don't exist. Nor do they need to, because dedicated troop transport has no place in a game where the dev team is actively looking to shrink maps to increase performance.

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Apocalyptic Destroyer Killers 4 Hire 325	Posted - 2015.03.15 16:28:00 - [1] - Quote I really miss flying it..... it's useless now. True Amarr In Disguise Pain is weakness leaving the body Proto : ADS Pilot, Tanker Ak.0 : Mando, Scout, Assault
Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1925	Posted - 2015.03.15 16:31:00 - [2] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: I really miss flying it..... it's useless now. It's been useless since rattati reduced the RoF bonus to 3% per level. Also, since swarms got super buff. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
Alena Ventrallis Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 2712	Posted - 2015.03.15 16:43:00 - [3] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: I really miss flying it..... it's useless now. It's been useless since rattati reduced the RoF bonus to 3% per level. Also, since swarms got super buff. What super-buff? Listen to my muscle memory Contemplate what I've been clinging to Forty-six and two ahead of me
Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1925	Posted - 2015.03.15 16:46:00 - [4] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: I really miss flying it..... it's useless now. It's been useless since rattati reduced the RoF bonus to 3% per level. Also, since swarms got super buff. What super-buff? Speed. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
DarthJT5 Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 318	Posted - 2015.03.15 16:53:00 - [5] - Quote ADS is not, and never has been, useless. You can't just hover around in one spot and slay massive amounts of people anymore (which is, by the way, the reason it got nerfed), but it's still the best vehicle for killing infantry. It's the best thing for killing solo period, unless there is a dedicated swarmer or forger on the field. IN which case, fly to a different part of the map. It's that simple. I still get 25/0 games with my ADS, but now I can't just not worry about swarms, they actually are a threat where as before they posed no threat. All in all, "git gud" and all that. Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta. Veteran Python Pilot for 1 year. The awnser is always XT missiles....
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3169	Posted - 2015.03.15 16:54:00 - [6] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: I really miss flying it..... it's useless now. It is with that attitude. ADS is a tough role to play, but it's not impossible. Proof of this is that Pythons still sit within the top 5 killers in PC. I myself do very well in pubs and PC, but I do so because I choose my battles and I put a lot of thought into every action I take, from my fittings, my approach, and my tactics when engaging, to my retreats and decision to recall if necessary. ADSs are by far the hardest role in Dust and requires a lot of thought to be successful. Dust is there! I was real! Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
The Final Fantasy DETHDEALERS RISE of LEGION 25	Posted - 2015.03.15 17:31:00 - [7] - Quote DarthJT5 wrote: ADS is not, and never has been, useless. You can't just hover around in one spot and slay massive amounts of people anymore (which is, by the way, the reason it got nerfed), but it's still the best vehicle for killing infantry. It's the best thing for killing solo period, unless there is a dedicated swarmer or forger on the field. IN which case, fly to a different part of the map. It's that simple. I still get 25/0 games with my ADS, but now I can't just not worry about swarms, they actually are a threat where as before they posed no threat. All in all, "git gud" and all that. im pretty sure it got nerfed cus of that 1 cpm saying " ALL and i mean ALL" ADS pilots went 20/0 cus you know everyone play as good as the top 3 ads pilots in every match, now we gotta do flybys and hope and pray we hit something or else get 2~3 by swarmando while using lolsafter burners to get away
DUST Fiend 16073	Posted - 2015.03.15 17:44:00 - [8] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: I really miss flying it..... it's useless now. It is with that attitude. ADS is a tough role to play, but it's not impossible. Proof of this is that Pythons still sit within the top 5 killers in PC. I myself do very well in pubs and PC, but I do so because I choose my battles and I put a lot of thought into every action I take, from my fittings, my approach, and my tactics when engaging, to my retreats and decision to recall if necessary. ADSs are by far the hardest role in Dust and requires a lot of thought to be successful. Yea, unless you have dedicated tankers with you, or a full squad who's all coordinating and helping you at every turn, you're just flying against the clock in most cases. There are just so many instances where no amount of skill will help you, and you're just going to die to math at some point. Flying right now, particularly solo, is just stupid. If you want to fly, you better be on comms, have a well oiled squad, and pray the enemy isn't doing the same. New tanks will eat you for breakfast, and the abundance of AV means you won't be getting many kills by yourself. If you play solo, skill tanks. They're specifically made for solo players, both kinds of tanks. I lose waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more ISK in my tanks since I'm bad, but let me tell you, it is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY less frustrating. Contests, Sales, Writing etc Fly Safe
DarthJT5 Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 319	Posted - 2015.03.15 18:14:00 - [9] - Quote As far as I'm concerned, the only thing that needs to be changed in swarm vs. DS/ADS (and even tanks to a lesser extent) is that it should be possible to dodge swarms if your skilled enough. I've had several occasions where I've flown by a swarmer, knowing he was there, to bait him into firing at me. After I see the missile, I would immediately pull around the building I was next to, turn two corners, and the swarms would STILL hit me. That's BS and needs to be changed. Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta. Veteran Python Pilot for 1 year. The awnser is always XT missiles....
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 575	Posted - 2015.03.15 18:16:00 - [10] - Quote Its still a dropship and not a gunship. The State will always survive.

Apocalyptic Destroyer Killers 4 Hire 325	Posted - 2015.03.15 18:41:00 - [11] - Quote Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: Its still a dropship and not a gunship. Please, separately define the two. True Amarr In Disguise Pain is weakness leaving the body Proto : ADS Pilot, Tanker Ak.0 : Mando, Scout, Assault
DUST Fiend 16077	Posted - 2015.03.15 18:45:00 - [12] - Quote Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: Its still a dropship and not a gunship. LMFAO at people using it as a dropship in this game, outside of the initial drop. You can get some mileage, again, if you're in a well oiled squad, which is totally fine. But again, this is done better by the ADS, the ASSAULT craft, that brings a STRIKE team with it. Standard dropships as transport is a joke thanks to how slow they are, and how they take two people to provide anything other than spawns and scans. Also, fitting an ADS with even one side gun, in this AV environment, is risky business at best. So, that's a 3 man crew, plus yourself. You won't be dropping much. They need to change the name of Dropship to Gunship and be done with it, because we currently have no troop transport oriented ariel vehicles in DUST. They don't exist. Nor do they need to, because dedicated troop transport has no place in a game where the dev team is actively looking to shrink maps to increase performance. Contests, Sales, Writing etc Fly Safe
The Final Fantasy DETHDEALERS RISE of LEGION 28	Posted - 2015.03.15 19:55:00 - [13] - Quote At the way this is heading vehicles should just be removes from dust altogether just look at the facts No more vehicles in osm which was the whole point of osm a more larger tmd now is just 1 giant proto orgy blob advance to the enemy rinse and repeat till they hot 0 in the clone count while spawning turrent to look pretty cus there's no vehicles anymore. all vehicle weapon are antivehicle according to rat cept for the small blaster , so vehicles vs infantry is kinda pointless now unless you want to get like 7/0in a vehicle while proto stomping earns you 22/0 Av is constantly getting tweaks and new weapons (I'm looking at you ahmg) vs vehicles while vehicles get updated every like once a year only todo terrible no new turrets same old thing and I get ccp isn't going to make new vehicles but at least try to balance out the one we have now
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3170	Posted - 2015.03.15 22:53:00 - [14] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: Its still a dropship and not a gunship. LMFAO at people using it as a dropship in this game, outside of the initial drop. You can get some mileage, again, if you're in a well oiled squad, which is totally fine. But again, this is done better by the ADS, the ASSAULT craft, that brings a STRIKE team with it. Standard dropships as transport is a joke thanks to how slow they are, and how they take two people to provide anything other than spawns and scans. Also, fitting an ADS with even one side gun, in this AV environment, is risky business at best. So, that's a 3 man crew, plus yourself. You won't be dropping much. They need to change the name of Dropship to Gunship and be done with it, because we currently have no troop transport oriented ariel vehicles in DUST. They don't exist. Nor do they need to, because dedicated troop transport has no place in a game where the dev team is actively looking to shrink maps to increase performance. I recently got Missile fitting V and it's possible to fit a standard 3k shield Python with XT and AT missiles (one of each) and only have to downgrade the AB to ADV. (Two side turrets isn't practical imo, I don't even use them on my STD dropships) As far as utilizing it, the only things preventing this are the infantry and the pilots themselves. If a team actually considered using them for that purpose, it would all work out, but no one but me it seems wants to even try it out, even if it's just transporting from A to B. Dust is there! I was real! Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
manboar thunder fist Dead Man's Game RUST415 416	Posted - 2015.03.15 23:51:00 - [15] - Quote Ads are only in the top killer list in pc because the pilots are incredibly experienced. I mean, how many of us are there? Even great pilots like part0.Hk are getting bored of it because swarms are too easy There's just not enough justification to work so hard when your opponents not even aiming "If there is a strafe nerf in this game, remove hit detection"- manboar 2014


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