DUST Search - Things that really need a buff.

maluble wrote:

Fizzer XCIV wrote:

Pretty much agree 100%, but I'd also include some others.

Ion Pistols. Any buff to ScPs warrants it, as they are very similar weapons mechanically.

GÇóI'd like to see the Regular ScP bumped to 80 damage with 450 RoF and a flat 12 round mag(change the operation skill to increase the headshot multiplier further, instead).
GÇóAssault ScP should be made into an autopistol. I see the SMG as more of a machine pistol as well, and I think of Mac-11s. I'd like to see the AScP be sort of like a G18. Give it 900 RoF with 25 damage and a 50 round mag.
GÇóTactical ScP should be removed. This thing has absolutely no point in existing.
GÇóBurst ScP could just use the same treatment the Burst AR got. Make the bursts faster, and more responsive. 900 RPM, three round burst, 32 damage per round, 30 round mag.
GÇóThe IoP should be bumped to 77 damage with 500 RoF while it keeps the 16 round mag. The heat/charge function could probably be reworked to be less draconian as well.

Plamsa Cannons. They just don't do AV well enough. I made a thread about it awhile ago.

Plasma cannond are a skill weapon that 1 shot my python. So no but everything else i agree.

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Pagl1u M Dead Man's Game RUST415 1617	Posted - 2015.02.22 10:40:00 - [1] - Quote And I think we can all agree: Contact grenade: I even forgot they existed Scrambler pistol: I mean the protos, when the breach adv is way better than the normal and assault proto there is something wrong. Light Blaster turret: lol Magsec: I'm not so sure here but I never ever see this weapon in the battlefield. If you can think of other things that CLEARLY need a buff post them. One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
We are 138 TRUE TEA BAGGERS 750	Posted - 2015.02.22 10:47:00 - [2] - Quote I run a standard magsec on my assault, works good for me. But on all other points I agree with you. Hello? any one there?
LT SHANKS You In The Nutz 5231	Posted - 2015.02.22 10:48:00 - [3] - Quote Me...
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2400	Posted - 2015.02.22 10:50:00 - [4] - Quote Pretty much agree 100%, but I'd also include some others. Ion Pistols. Any buff to ScPs warrants it, as they are very similar weapons mechanically. GÇóI'd like to see the regular ScP bumped to 80 damage with 450 RoF and a flat 12 round mag(change the operation skill to increase the headshot multiplier further, instead). GÇóAssault ScP should be made into an autopistol. Massive stat reworking... GÇóThe IoP should be bumped to 77 damage with 500 RoF while it keeps the 16 round mag. The heat/charge function could probably be reworked to be less draconian, but it might be better to not touch so much stuff. Plamsa Cannons. They just don't do AV well enough. I made a thread about it awhile ago. Home at Last <3
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 3137	Posted - 2015.02.22 10:55:00 - [5] - Quote If nothing has changed since I last used it, the Magsec SMG is actually not a too bad weapon it just needs a reduction in kick. Its one of the few weapons in game with any sort of actual kick. I find that if you hipfire the thing its a lot more 'accurate' than if you ADS - as backwards as that sounds. Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa? MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Louis Domi Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 872	Posted - 2015.02.22 11:05:00 - [6] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: And I think we can all agree: Contact grenade: I even forgot they existed Scrambler pistol: I mean the protos, when the breach adv is way better than the normal and assault proto there is something wrong. Light Blaster turret: lol Magsec: I'm not so sure here but I never ever see this weapon in the battlefield. If you can think of other things that CLEARLY need a buff post them. I've been killed by a magsec... Once... That light blaster though... lol indeed
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game RUST415 295	Posted - 2015.02.22 11:37:00 - [7] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: And I think we can all agree: Contact grenade: I even forgot they existed Scrambler pistol: I mean the protos, when the breach adv is way better than the normal and assault proto there is something wrong. Light Blaster turret: lol Magsec: I'm not so sure here but I never ever see this weapon in the battlefield. If you can think of other things that CLEARLY need a buff post them. I'd add the breach flaylock pistol, the breach Mass driver and the PLC (it's supposed to be AV). Something I want to notice is that it's all the ScP variants except the breach that are underpowered. The breach is perfect as it is (except in its fitting cost that will have to be reduced if changes to ScP are made). Rise? That's what they used to call me. Sequal Rise. That was my name. Now I come Back to you, at the turn of the tide.
jane stalin Ametat Security Amarr Empire 182	Posted - 2015.02.22 11:38:00 - [8] - Quote Shame needs a buff, if you assume that it is a team game, shame would make people behave properly. Many doms have a single player trying to take the objective themselves because the other team members are redline sniping and only doing an OK job, they definitely do not make it possible for one guy to take the objective.
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 539	Posted - 2015.02.22 12:56:00 - [9] - Quote Rail rifle. I hardly ever see the thing being used and when the assault rifle does better against armor and at long range then the anti-armor weapon theres a problem. PREPARE FOR THE HATE! The State will always survive.
JONAHBENHUR WarRavens 94	Posted - 2015.02.22 13:16:00 - [10] - Quote and LOGI SUITS !! "To be a man you must have honor, "HONOR AND A PENIS !!" -shinoske noharu

Varoth Drac State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 587	Posted - 2015.02.22 13:47:00 - [11] - Quote Breach shotguns. Reload definately needs a buff up to regular SG speed. Also increase range or damage.
Varoth Drac State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 587	Posted - 2015.02.22 13:48:00 - [12] - Quote JONAHBENHUR wrote: and LOGI SUITS !! Amarr, Caldari and some lower tier logis with missing slots, need a buff.
Draxus Prime T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 4258	Posted - 2015.02.22 13:58:00 - [13] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Me... Him... "Spilling floor cleaner only makes the floor cleaner." - Draxus Prime Closed Beta Vet Scout
jade gamester Dead Man's Game RUST415 125	Posted - 2015.02.22 14:01:00 - [14] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: And I think we can all agree: Contact grenade: I even forgot they existed Scrambler pistol: I mean the protos, when the breach adv is way better than the normal and assault proto there is something wrong. Light Blaster turret: lol Magsec: I'm not so sure here but I never ever see this weapon in the battlefield. If you can think of other things that CLEARLY need a buff post them. assault hmg Swaglord of dust Role model - valwhore CEO thedick "oh no he took my lucky charms"
Mecha-Sol CORRUPTED CODE 4	Posted - 2015.02.22 14:10:00 - [15] - Quote Amarr scout
Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1762	Posted - 2015.02.22 14:15:00 - [16] - Quote We are 138 wrote: I run a standard magsec on my assault, works good for me. But on all other points I agree with you. So, you are one of those players out of 3000 that actually use it over SMG.. Congrats? I use Ion Pistol for the heck of it, just because I use it doesn't mean it is perfectly fine. It is a POS. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7712	Posted - 2015.02.22 14:15:00 - [17] - Quote Proximity mines... Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe
Mecha-Sol CORRUPTED CODE 5	Posted - 2015.02.22 14:20:00 - [18] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: If nothing has changed since I last used it, the Magsec SMG is actually not a too bad weapon it just needs a reduction in kick. Its one of the few weapons in game with any sort of actual kick. I find that if you hipfire the thing its a lot more 'accurate' than if you ADS - as backwards as that sounds. You actually play the game. There's so many people here that don't.
VAHZZ 536	Posted - 2015.02.22 14:22:00 - [19] - Quote I need a buff and a respec. But seriously, anything assault related needs one. ~ Seeker of the Quafe
Louis Domi Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 874	Posted - 2015.02.22 14:22:00 - [20] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: We are 138 wrote: I run a standard magsec on my assault, works good for me. But on all other points I agree with you. So, you are one of those players out of 3000 that actually use it over SMG.. Congrats? I use Ion Pistol for the heck of it, just because I use it doesn't mean it is perfectly fine. It is a POS. Ion pistol is actually pretty good.

Spkr4theDead Red Star. 2980	Posted - 2015.02.22 14:30:00 - [21] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: And I think we can all agree: Contact grenade: I even forgot they existed They were nerfed because that was an entire playstyle. Stand on nanohives and spam them. They also locked on to suits like AV grenades do to vehicles, and wrecked those suits. Light Blaster turret: lol What's a light blaster turret? Nope. Confirming that pilot input is not, and never was, valued. - Breakin Stuff
maluble Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance 209	Posted - 2015.02.22 15:36:00 - [22] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Pretty much agree 100%, but I'd also include some others. Ion Pistols. Any buff to ScPs warrants it, as they are very similar weapons mechanically. GÇóI'd like to see the Regular ScP bumped to 80 damage with 450 RoF and a flat 12 round mag(change the operation skill to increase the headshot multiplier further, instead). GÇóAssault ScP should be made into an autopistol. I see the SMG as more of a machine pistol as well, and I think of Mac-11s. I'd like to see the AScP be sort of like a G18. Give it 900 RoF with 25 damage and a 50 round mag. GÇóTactical ScP should be removed. This thing has absolutely no point in existing. GÇóBurst ScP could just use the same treatment the Burst AR got. Make the bursts faster, and more responsive. 900 RPM, three round burst, 32 damage per round, 30 round mag. GÇóThe IoP should be bumped to 77 damage with 500 RoF while it keeps the 16 round mag. The heat/charge function could probably be reworked to be less draconian as well. Plamsa Cannons. They just don't do AV well enough. I made a thread about it awhile ago. Plasma cannond are a skill weapon that 1 shot my python. So no but everything else i agree.
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2400	Posted - 2015.02.22 15:45:00 - [23] - Quote maluble wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Pretty much agree 100%, but I'd also include some others. Ion Pistols. Any buff to ScPs warrants it, as they are very similar weapons mechanically. GÇóI'd like to see the Regular ScP bumped to 80 damage with 450 RoF and a flat 12 round mag(change the operation skill to increase the headshot multiplier further, instead). GÇóAssault ScP should be made into an autopistol. I see the SMG as more of a machine pistol as well, and I think of Mac-11s. I'd like to see the AScP be sort of like a G18. Give it 900 RoF with 25 damage and a 50 round mag. GÇóTactical ScP should be removed. This thing has absolutely no point in existing. GÇóBurst ScP could just use the same treatment the Burst AR got. Make the bursts faster, and more responsive. 900 RPM, three round burst, 32 damage per round, 30 round mag. GÇóThe IoP should be bumped to 77 damage with 500 RoF while it keeps the 16 round mag. The heat/charge function could probably be reworked to be less draconian as well. Plamsa Cannons. They just don't do AV well enough. I made a thread about it awhile ago. Plasma cannond are a skill weapon that 1 shot my python. So no but everything else i agree. :/ No. They don't. Allotek Plasma Cannons barely do enough damage to drop an unfitted Python's Shields... They need a buff as well. Their AV capabilities are pitiful. And you said it yourself, they are skill weapons, and as such they deserve to do truly significant damage. Home at Last <3
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 685	Posted - 2015.02.22 16:21:00 - [24] - Quote Nanohives need a price decrease. Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
taxi bastard Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 400	Posted - 2015.02.22 16:33:00 - [25] - Quote as mentioned before proximity mines. for a while i did try with them ......soon found out i needed to be in a logi suit and needed multiple sets just to take out an unfitted LAV. need damage increased to 1250 and bandwidth reduced. "Attention Axiom shoppers try red its the new blue" - WALL-E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1BQPV-iCkU CCP's update
Mecha-Sol CORRUPTED CODE 15	Posted - 2015.02.22 16:44:00 - [26] - Quote ScP. there isn't really a reason it should be so crappy.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 2305	Posted - 2015.02.22 16:47:00 - [27] - Quote Scouts at std levels Delt for CPM2 CPM1 MISSION : FAILED Moss-delt on skype
Pagl1u M Dead Man's Game RUST415 1621	Posted - 2015.02.22 17:12:00 - [28] - Quote OP edited adding proximity mines to the list, I think none disagrees they need a buff. I'm only adding things that CLEARLY need a buff. I'm thinking about adding Plasma cannons but only speaking about their AV usage. Cause plasma cannon is already a good AI weapon. One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6836	Posted - 2015.02.22 17:15:00 - [29] - Quote BSC, ADV Active Scanners Prox Mines (all) MLT, STD Nova Knives Ion Pistol (all) AM Scout Commandos Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
hackerzilla Defenders of the Helghast Dream The Ditanian Alliance 670	Posted - 2015.02.22 17:19:00 - [30] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Pretty much agree 100%, but I'd also include some others. Ion Pistols. Any buff to ScPs warrants it, as they are very similar weapons mechanically. GÇóI'd like to see the Regular ScP bumped to 80 damage with 450 RoF and a flat 12 round mag(change the operation skill to increase the headshot multiplier further, instead). GÇóAssault ScP should be made into an autopistol. I see the SMG as more of a machine pistol as well, and I think of Mac-11s. I'd like to see the AScP be sort of like a G18. Give it 900 RoF with 25 damage and a 50 round mag. GÇóTactical ScP should be removed. This thing has absolutely no point in existing. GÇóBurst ScP could just use the same treatment the Burst AR got. Make the bursts faster, and more responsive. 900 RPM, three round burst, 32 damage per round, 30 round mag. GÇóThe IoP should be bumped to 77 damage with 500 RoF while it keeps the 16 round mag. The heat/charge function could probably be reworked to be less draconian as well. Plamsa Cannons. They just don't do AV well enough. I made a thread about it awhile ago. I agree with your opinion on the ScP and Ion pistol, especially the ScP operations skill, in fact most of the weapons kind of feel like the operations skill is a bit arbitrary, and doesn't add to the role of the weapon. As for the plasma cannon: I've been tanking quite a bit more recently, and I have encountered quite a few PC AVers and even PC AV squads, only the latter ever killed me, and maybe one or two times last week. Anyway, I think that PCs should be looked at, but not directly buffed, maybe some mechanic implementations or removal. 01101100 01101111 01101100 00100000 01100010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001



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