DUST Search - Things that really need a buff.

Pagl1u M wrote:

Bradric Banewolf wrote:

Pagl1u M wrote:

And I think we can all agree:

Contact grenade: I even forgot they existed
Scrambler pistol: I mean the protos, when the breach adv is way better than the normal and assault proto there is something wrong.
Light Blaster turret: lol
Magsec: I'm not so sure here but I never ever see this weapon in the battlefield.

Edit:
Proximity mines: clearly need a buff, probably a dmg buff or something else like slowing down the enemy vehicle or dehactivating modules or something like that.
Assault Swarm Launcher: is this the most useless thing in the game? Light Blaster turret disagrees but I'd say it is a fair fight.

If you can think of other things that CLEARLY need a buff post them.

Breach scrambler pistol too strong. Makes other scrambler pistols look crappy. If buffed, then the ion will need one too.

Contact grenade price is too high. No one buys them. sometimes prices dictates use in combination with effectiveness.

it is not the breach that makes them look crappy. They are. Assault and normal ScP deal almoost no dmg. I thought about adding the ion to the thread but it looks that a lot of players disagree and I m adding only things we can all agree on.

Contact grenades: it's not only the price, I couldnt give less duck about the price but I'd never choose them over locus or flux.

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hackerzilla Defenders of the Helghast Dream The Ditanian Alliance 670	Posted - 2015.02.22 17:22:00 - [31] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: BSC, ADV Active Scanners Prox Mines (all) MLT, STD Nova Knives Ion Pistol (all) AM Scout Commandos Basic and Advance scanners are absolutely garbage, possibly there needs to be a change to the way that scanners stats increase or decrease as the tier increases, because if you directly decreased the precision level on the bsc and adv scanners they'd be as good as proto, which are pretty damn OP right now. (Permanent scans for the whole game) 01101100 01101111 01101100 00100000 01100010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001
diablo gamekeeper T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 4	Posted - 2015.02.22 18:08:00 - [32] - Quote Combat Rifle......make it back to 1.7 age :D
Thor Odinson42 Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 6092	Posted - 2015.02.22 18:17:00 - [33] - Quote Gal Assault Breach AR Breach SP Locus Grenades Allotek Hives Damage Mods Armor Repairers I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3013	Posted - 2015.02.22 18:18:00 - [34] - Quote If proxy mines get a buff they need to reduce the number that can be deployed. Currently, they're fine if used en masse, but if they get buffed without change, I think they'd be a little OP. Dust is there! I was real! Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2403	Posted - 2015.02.22 18:25:00 - [35] - Quote hackerzilla wrote: in fact most of the weapons kind of feel like the operations skill is a bit arbitrary, and doesn't add to the role of the weapon. There are a few weapons where the operations skill has practically no effect on the weapon at all. Like the Scrambler Rifle. Reducing cooldown time means nothing when the sieze duration is a static time. No matter how fast the cooldown rate is, the rifle always siezes for 6 seconds... Completely useless bonus. Home at Last <3
duster 35000 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 295	Posted - 2015.02.22 19:24:00 - [36] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: And I think we can all agree: Contact grenade: I even forgot they existed Scrambler pistol: I mean the protos, when the breach adv is way better than the normal and assault proto there is something wrong. Light Blaster turret: lol Magsec: I'm not so sure here but I never ever see this weapon in the battlefield. Edit: Proximity mines: clearly need a buff, probably a dmg buff or something else like slowing down the enemy vehicle or dehactivating modules or something like that. If you can think of other things that CLEARLY need a buff post them. I have proto magsec prof 2...I never use it anymore. Also I need my life buffed, currently it's at 0. Molestia approved
Pagl1u M Dead Man's Game RUST415 1622	Posted - 2015.02.22 19:47:00 - [37] - Quote Do we all agree blueberries need a buff? I think I should add them to the list... One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
GrimzOvaHourz The Forgotten Spirits 100	Posted - 2015.02.22 19:51:00 - [38] - Quote ScR
abdullah muzaffar G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 427	Posted - 2015.02.22 21:12:00 - [39] - Quote 2Berries wrote: Nanohives need a price decrease. As do av grenade variants. 2k for adv av grenage, 8k for packed
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 7968	Posted - 2015.02.22 21:30:00 - [40] - Quote WTF... Maybe its my ocular impairment, but I didn't see Assault Swarms mentioned once in this thread. I even double backed to make sure I just didn't overlook it. ASL is like THE poster child for things that really need a buff, I mean, at least the MagSec could actually kill someone... Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.

Pagl1u M Dead Man's Game RUST415 1625	Posted - 2015.02.22 21:40:00 - [41] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: WTF... Maybe its my ocular impairment, but I didn't see Assault Swarms mentioned once in this thread. I even double backed to make sure I just didn't overlook it. ASL is like THE poster child for things that really need a buff, I mean, at least the MagSec could actually kill someone... Lol going to edit the OP One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
TritusX PH4NT0M5 310	Posted - 2015.02.22 21:51:00 - [42] - Quote Buff photon gear Killer of Grand Master Kubo by a shotgun, Gav by a BAR, and countless others
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 15727	Posted - 2015.02.22 21:55:00 - [43] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: WTF... Maybe its my ocular impairment, but I didn't see Assault Swarms mentioned once in this thread. I even double backed to make sure I just didn't overlook it. ASL is like THE poster child for things that really need a buff, I mean, at least the MagSec could actually kill someone... If you don't try to 2v1 vehicles the ASL is actually a pretty good weapon by itself and is capable of killing vehicles. It's when you compare it to the NSL which does the same thing but less CPU/PG that it flops. SSLs however, are ridiculously bad. I'd rather fight tanks with a MLT Plasma Cannon than use em. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 824	Posted - 2015.02.22 22:45:00 - [44] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: Light Blaster turret: lol uuuhm... What?
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 7973	Posted - 2015.02.22 23:06:00 - [45] - Quote Atiim wrote: One Eyed King wrote: WTF... Maybe its my ocular impairment, but I didn't see Assault Swarms mentioned once in this thread. I even double backed to make sure I just didn't overlook it. ASL is like THE poster child for things that really need a buff, I mean, at least the MagSec could actually kill someone... If you don't try to 2v1 vehicles the ASL is actually a pretty good weapon by itself and is capable of killing vehicles. It's when you compare it to the NSL which does the same thing but less CPU/PG that it flops. SSLs however, are ridiculously bad. I'd rather fight tanks with a MLT Plasma Cannon than use em. I'll take your word for it, because I am not trying to run one. Although maybe I might do that one day just for the fun of it. Maybe see if I can't make a few people feel bad about themselves for dying to one. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 29	Posted - 2015.02.22 23:32:00 - [46] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: And I think we can all agree: Contact grenade: I even forgot they existed Scrambler pistol: I mean the protos, when the breach adv is way better than the normal and assault proto there is something wrong. Light Blaster turret: lol Magsec: I'm not so sure here but I never ever see this weapon in the battlefield. Edit: Proximity mines: clearly need a buff, probably a dmg buff or something else like slowing down the enemy vehicle or dehactivating modules or something like that. Assault Swarm Launcher: is this the most useless thing in the game? Light Blaster turret disagrees but I'd say it is a fair fight. If you can think of other things that CLEARLY need a buff post them. Contact grenades: As long as they can not be resupplied at all by anything less than a proto nanohive with the Caldari bonus applied then sure. Allowing these to be spammed like cores are now would just be bad news. Scrambler Pistol: Just give it a bit of its rate of fire back. Light blaster turret: These are certainly in a bad place. The dispersion on them makes them totally useless. Tighten dispersion, give it a better sight, and make the range fall off on them crazy so that it is useless outside of X meters. Magsec: I actually do not see anything wrong with it. Just cause something is not used a lot does not mean it needs a buff. Proxy Mines and Assault Swarms: I think we should wait on the pending vehicle changes before discussing this.
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 952	Posted - 2015.02.22 23:52:00 - [47] - Quote Breach Shotguns clearly need a buff. GimmeDatSuhWeet isk We found a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank, all hail pope redblood the 6th
The Eristic Dust 90210 810	Posted - 2015.02.23 00:01:00 - [48] - Quote Sleeks are pretty useless. Reality is the original Rorschach. Verily! So much for all that.
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 2280	Posted - 2015.02.23 01:15:00 - [49] - Quote Don't buff the PLC splash at all or it might become FoTM Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 255	Posted - 2015.02.23 01:19:00 - [50] - Quote Buff Aurum.

danthrax martin Bad Blueberries 305	Posted - 2015.02.23 01:55:00 - [51] - Quote My quafe harem needs a buff, or maybe some better space wax. Suicidal A/V Moron I Support Raiding from Landless Corps 75m+ SP
Pagl1u M Dead Man's Game RUST415 1631	Posted - 2015.02.23 19:34:00 - [52] - Quote The question is: if we (and with we I mean a community that never agrees about anything) all agree these weapons need a buff, what is CCP waiting for????? One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 746	Posted - 2015.02.23 19:44:00 - [53] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: And I think we can all agree: Contact grenade: I even forgot they existed Scrambler pistol: I mean the protos, when the breach adv is way better than the normal and assault proto there is something wrong. Light Blaster turret: lol Magsec: I'm not so sure here but I never ever see this weapon in the battlefield. Edit: Proximity mines: clearly need a buff, probably a dmg buff or something else like slowing down the enemy vehicle or dehactivating modules or something like that. Assault Swarm Launcher: is this the most useless thing in the game? Light Blaster turret disagrees but I'd say it is a fair fight. If you can think of other things that CLEARLY need a buff post them. Breach scrambler pistol too strong. Makes other scrambler pistols look crappy. If buffed, then the ion will need one too. Contact grenade price is too high. No one buys them. sometimes prices dictates use in combination with effectiveness. "Anybody order chaos?"
Pagl1u M Dead Man's Game RUST415 1639	Posted - 2015.02.24 09:03:00 - [54] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: Pagl1u M wrote: And I think we can all agree: Contact grenade: I even forgot they existed Scrambler pistol: I mean the protos, when the breach adv is way better than the normal and assault proto there is something wrong. Light Blaster turret: lol Magsec: I'm not so sure here but I never ever see this weapon in the battlefield. Edit: Proximity mines: clearly need a buff, probably a dmg buff or something else like slowing down the enemy vehicle or dehactivating modules or something like that. Assault Swarm Launcher: is this the most useless thing in the game? Light Blaster turret disagrees but I'd say it is a fair fight. If you can think of other things that CLEARLY need a buff post them. Breach scrambler pistol too strong. Makes other scrambler pistols look crappy. If buffed, then the ion will need one too. Contact grenade price is too high. No one buys them. sometimes prices dictates use in combination with effectiveness. it is not the breach that makes them look crappy. They are. Assault and normal ScP deal almoost no dmg. I thought about adding the ion to the thread but it looks that a lot of players disagree and I m adding only things we can all agree on. Contact grenades: it's not only the price, I couldnt give less duck about the price but I'd never choose them over locus or flux. One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2413	Posted - 2015.02.24 11:10:00 - [55] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Pagl1u M wrote: And I think we can all agree: Contact grenade: I even forgot they existed Scrambler pistol: I mean the protos, when the breach adv is way better than the normal and assault proto there is something wrong. Light Blaster turret: lol Magsec: I'm not so sure here but I never ever see this weapon in the battlefield. Edit: Proximity mines: clearly need a buff, probably a dmg buff or something else like slowing down the enemy vehicle or dehactivating modules or something like that. Assault Swarm Launcher: is this the most useless thing in the game? Light Blaster turret disagrees but I'd say it is a fair fight. If you can think of other things that CLEARLY need a buff post them. Breach scrambler pistol too strong. Makes other scrambler pistols look crappy. If buffed, then the ion will need one too. Contact grenade price is too high. No one buys them. sometimes prices dictates use in combination with effectiveness. it is not the breach that makes them look crappy. They are. Assault and normal ScP deal almoost no dmg. I thought about adding the ion to the thread but it looks that a lot of players disagree and I m adding only things we can all agree on. Contact grenades: it's not only the price, I couldnt give less duck about the price but I'd never choose them over locus or flux. The problem here is that most people think a sidearm is overpowered if: GÇóet can kill me wen im usin mah refle hurr durr GÇóespessalee if ets a peestol! Most people just say "Oh, its a pistol, its supposed to be bad.". This is ***** bullshit, and I know that you know it as well. There was a time when pistols used to be used nearly as much as SMGs. Before the Scrambler Pistol ubernerf in 1.8, they were nearly as common as SMGs, but Rattati decided that setting all sidearms at the same DPS would balance them. It didnt. He completely forgot about factoring in the Skill:Power ratio, and so the easiest to use ones are blatantly the best ones. Ion Pistols are . Most Scrambler Pistols are . Magsecs are . Even Flaylocks are a little bit , but at least they're so different that they provide fun value like the Plasma Cannon. Nova knives are thier own thing. Way to different from ~everything else in the game~ for me to comment. But overall, pretty much every sidearm but SMGs needs a buff. SMGs alone make up almost Gàö of all sidearm sales. That's ****. The only 3 sidearms worth using are Breach SMGs, SMGs, Bolt Pistols, and sometimes Breach ScPs if you have a CR or something. Don't listen to the people that don't think the Ion Pistol needs a buff. They don't know what they are talking about. Home at Last <3
jordy mack WarRavens 288	Posted - 2015.02.24 12:31:00 - [56] - Quote assault scrambler rifle needs love. its like it shoots marshmellows. cut bandwith on proxys cut price of contact nades light blaster and assualt swarms...yer lol indeed. magsec... wats a magsec? never seen one. couldnt say. Less QQ more PewPew
IVIaster LUKE 775	Posted - 2015.02.24 13:57:00 - [57] - Quote The Terrain needs a buff or put a Danger "quicksand" sign up. Also the 2 inch stairs a heavy can't hop over. Smooth walls that you get stuck on. That Myron "Nulabator" dropship with the jacked up flying controls. Proxy mines that work properly before the proto HAV's come out of the woodwork. Simple things. Just saying. Angels Trumpets =ƒÄ¦ & Devils Trombones=ƒô» You are cordially invited. =ƒÄá
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 31	Posted - 2015.02.24 15:41:00 - [58] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: Breach shotguns. Reload definately needs a buff up to regular SG speed. Also increase range or damage. the only buff the breach sg needs is for it to register the shot not hit detection per say but I do notice a slight delay from the time fired (gun makes pew pew) to the time registered which at that range should be instant also wouldn't mind a buff to the reload speed but a slight one not exactly equal to the regular sg but Id rather have a better fire rate rather then reload speed (kill em quick or die) I use the breach sg on a regular basis on my cal scout its pretty good if you have good aim and if you get the head shots most suits even heavy ones go down in the two shots that you have
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9892	Posted - 2015.02.24 15:51:00 - [59] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: Varoth Drac wrote: Breach shotguns. Reload definately needs a buff up to regular SG speed. Also increase range or damage. the only buff the breach sg needs is for it to register the shot not hit detection per say but I do notice a slight delay from the time fired (gun makes pew pew) to the time registered which at that range should be instant also wouldn't mind a buff to the reload speed but a slight one not exactly equal to the regular sg but Id rather have a better fire rate rather then reload speed (kill em quick or die) I use the breach sg on a regular basis on my cal scout its pretty good if you have good aim and if you get the head shots most suits even heavy ones go down in the two shots that you have I use a breach shotty on my gal commando. I personally think it just needs two more rounds an better hit detection like you said. Also: ion pistol needs a buff, but it's nowhere near as bad as people think Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman. Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe. Nobody messes with my family
Pagl1u M Dead Man's Game RUST415 1660	Posted - 2015.02.26 13:17:00 - [60] - Quote Edited OP with a couple of suggestions we should discuss. Pagl1u M wrote: SUGGESTIONS: Here I'll add things that we might add to the list. Discuss. Ion Pistol Breach Shotgun Plasma Cannon (AV) Ion Pistol: I'd say it needs a buff, atm it is only viable if you're using a galassault. Plasma Cannon (AV): Yes, but a little buff. One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!



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