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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.02.23 09:03:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Soul Cairn wrote:It is saddening that Caldari ranks are basically ranks in IRL. That's the problem. There's a very nasty / irreconcilable division between people who want **** based on RL, and people who want things based on the actual races, cultures and naming conventions within them. I see both sides, but I disagree with the modern military ranks because they have 'responsibility' that our characters don't have. We're essentially elite irregulars that fall outside the conventional military structure. I don't want to get into these arguments again though, so I'd be pretty content to have the whole idea die in a fire, no one will get what they 'want' without the other side being pretty pissed about it. I'm with you on wanting lore based ones from the cultures. But firstly we'd never agree on the cultural root languages and specific dialects, secondly I'd suggest they'd simply not be practical in the middle of combat especially when current existing examples serve well enough already.
"This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.02.23 10:40:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Look up Commandant of the Marine Corps. I was in the Marines, I wouldn't lead you astray on rank structure.
The commandant and assistant commandant are both General Officers. If I recall correctly the Assistant Commandant of the Marines carries a minimum rank of Lieutenant-General (3 stars) while the Commandant is simply "General." 4 stars.
Commandant in foreign militaries can be equivalent to a Major, but the title is unique in the U.S. Armed Forces. Most llikely to differentiate between that position and the rank of Commander in Naval parlance, the second-in-command to a Captain in the Navy, both of whom outrank a Captain of the Army, Air Force and Marines, and all of whom are outranked by the Commandant, Fleet Admiral and General of the Army.
Believe it or not, this little diatribe is meant to illustrate these points in a way that may help the conversation.
There is absolutely no reason why the four empires must follow traditional ranks in lockstep.
Example: Minmatar can combine modern parlance with viking ranks:
1: Thrall 2: Valklear 3: Thrall-Corporal (Fire Team Leader) 4: Valklear Sergeant 6: Platoon Sergeant 7: 1st Valklear (Lieutenant) 8: Raider-Jarl 9: Absolved Colonel (Valklears are sentenced criminals, not volunteers) 10: General-Matar
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.02.23 11:01:00 -
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1- Acolyte 2- Guardsman 3- Armsman 4- Crusader 5- Crusade-Captain 6- Paladin 7- Paladin-Captain 8- Imperial Templar 9- Imperial Commander 10- Lord General
I see the ranks of the amarr military as both an increase in military rank, and the accepted method of an otherwise "commoner" in the Empire to be able to ascend to proper nobility, and for noble scions to prove their family's worth lest their contributions to the empire fall of, leaving the family with neither the favor, nor grace of the Imperial heir families such as Sarum or Kador.
As far as Caldari ranks, I would expect them to follow more standard ranks because the Caldari see war and soldiering for what it is. To the State it is enforcement of acceptable economics. They need no flowery titles. They're there to fight and kill to protect State assets and procure new assets for same.
Modern parlance would be appropriate but I would do a mix of Japanese and American ranks for the most part. Perhaps a corporate honorific to represent one of the big seven. Let the caldari players pick which corp.
Example: Ishukone Chu'I Kaalakiota Sergeant Wyrkomi State General Ishukone Dai-Gensui (I'm pretty fking sure I cannot spell these well)
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.02.23 17:57:00 -
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Bump
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Soul Cairn
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.02.24 05:08:00 -
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bump
Don't be fooled, I'm Caldari
Vehicular Specialist
I need to play more often...
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Nocturnal Soul
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
5515
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Posted - 2015.02.24 22:22:00 -
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Bump
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Nocturnal Soul
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.02.25 04:00:00 -
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Damn matar, nearly impossible to come up with good names. I need more lore!!!!!
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LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.02.25 04:02:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Damn matar, nearly impossible to come up with good names. I need more lore!!!!!
Lore yourself out!
"This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
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Nocturnal Soul
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.02.25 04:13:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Damn matar, nearly impossible to come up with good names. I need more lore!!!!! Lore yourself out! Are there any other canon places I can find eve lore besides the wiki?
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Nocturnal Soul
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
5528
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Posted - 2015.02.26 02:37:00 -
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Bump
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LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.02.26 03:59:00 -
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Huge Insipration from this EVElopedia article
The TLF likes to use weapons in their rank system, such as blade, trident, spike, lance etc. I used a mix of military ranks and tribal ranks for flavor.
Typically, low level ranks would not be considered part of the military, as they would be new recruits. You would refer to new fighters as "Warriors" to inspire courage in them. After a few successful battles, they would become "Liberators" to show them how their efforts have freed and helped the Matari people.
Further from that, you start to progress through military ranks. It is at this time that you are typically given more actual military training, in the form of tactics extending farther than a squad. These ranks continue until rank 9, which is the highest official rank given to a Matari Fighter.
At rank 10, one is recognized as a force upon himself. His experience and preservation in battle has earned him the designation of "Warlord", one that commands both fear and respect on the battlefield.
1 - Matari Warrior
2 - Matari Liberator
3 - Spear Seargant
4 - Talon Officer
5 - Lance Lieutenant
6 - Venge Captain
7 - Voshud Major
8 - Matari Colonel
9 - Valkear General
10 - Matari Warlord
For those who like the Minmatar lore, here are some quotes from that article that I feel sum up the heart of the Matari Resistance.
"We have struggled through pain and grief; we have faced our torments with unbowed heads; we have lived as men. And in the end, what counts is not the years in our lives, but the unyielding life in our years."
"Their military handbook regulated the guarding of gates, chokepoints, treelines and skies. it neglected, however, to mention sewers."
"The Matari spirit is an indomitable fire. Be sure when fanning those flames that you do not burn this world of ours down. Seeds cannot grow in a soil of ash."
"War is within our hearts. It is a raging beast which we must harness lest it consume us."
Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman.
Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe.
Nobody messes with my family
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Nocturnal Soul
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.02.27 00:34:00 -
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Bump
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LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.02.27 04:26:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Bump
You like my ranks?
Or do they suck? ![Pirate](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_pirate.png)
Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman.
Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe.
Nobody messes with my family
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.02.27 04:35:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:
Matar:Obviously need some help 1. Hitter of things 2. Better hitter of things
Basically all you need.
Terrestrial Combat Officer of Y.A.M.A.H
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Nocturnal Soul
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.02.27 08:28:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Bump You like my ranks? Or do they suck? ![Pirate](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_pirate.png) Its 2am and I just got an idea give me a few names of storms
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Nocturnal Soul
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Posted - 2015.02.28 03:41:00 -
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Bump
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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Nocturnal Soul
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Posted - 2015.03.01 01:09:00 -
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Supah ninja samurai sword fist bump
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LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.01 01:33:00 -
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The Caldari make a pretty huge leap from Cadet to Lieutenant.
I'd restructure it to make more sense.
First of all, replace Cadet with Private. Cadets are trainees in Military Schools...
1.)Private 2.)Corporal 3.)Sergeant 4.)Sergeant Major 5.)Second Lieutenant 6.)First Lieutenant 7.)Captain 8.)Major 9.)Colonel 10.)General
Home at Last <3
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Nocturnal Soul
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Posted - 2015.03.01 02:49:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:The Caldari make a pretty huge leap from Cadet to Lieutenant.
I'd restructure it to make more sense.
First of all, replace Cadet with Private. Cadets are trainees in Military Schools...
1.)Private 2.)Corporal 3.)Sergeant 4.)Sergeant Major 5.)Second Lieutenant 6.)First Lieutenant 7.)Captain 8.)Major 9.)Colonel 10.)General
Add some flair to a few ranks. Make it more Caldari.
1.)Peacekeeper Ensign 2.)Private 3.)Corporal 4.)Sergeant 5.)Lieutenant 6.)Captain 7.)Strike Major 8.)Colonel 9.)State General 10.)Peace Marshal Flair and Caldari are two words that don't mix to my knowledge of lore.
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LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.01 02:51:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:The Caldari make a pretty huge leap from Cadet to Lieutenant.
I'd restructure it to make more sense.
First of all, replace Cadet with Private. Cadets are trainees in Military Schools...
1.)Private 2.)Corporal 3.)Sergeant 4.)Sergeant Major 5.)Second Lieutenant 6.)First Lieutenant 7.)Captain 8.)Major 9.)Colonel 10.)General
Add some flair to a few ranks. Make it more Caldari.
1.)Peacekeeper Ensign 2.)Private 3.)Corporal 4.)Sergeant 5.)Lieutenant 6.)Captain 7.)Strike Major 8.)Colonel 9.)State General 10.)Peace Marshal Flair and Caldari are two words that don't mix to my knowledge of lore.
Its very serious flair .
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Nocturnal Soul
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Posted - 2015.03.01 02:57:00 -
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Lol, okay I'll have a look around to find a few ideas
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Nocturnal Soul
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Posted - 2015.03.01 03:59:00 -
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Alright after some word searching and lore reading I found some names for the squids!!!
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.03.01 05:20:00 -
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I was kind of disappointed with the the master race names (Caldari State) they seem a bit more like standard, modern rankings. But the Amar sound awesome, but of course that's True's decision .
Caldari Loyalist
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game RUST415
463
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Posted - 2015.03.01 05:23:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:The Caldari make a pretty huge leap from Cadet to Lieutenant.
I'd restructure it to make more sense.
First of all, replace Cadet with Private. Cadets are trainees in Military Schools...
1.)Private 2.)Corporal 3.)Sergeant 4.)Sergeant Major 5.)Second Lieutenant 6.)First Lieutenant 7.)Captain 8.)Major 9.)Colonel 10.)General
Add some flair to a few ranks. Make it more Caldari.
1.)Peacekeeper Ensign 2.)Private 3.)Corporal 4.)Sergeant 5.)Lieutenant 6.)Captain 7.)Strike Major 8.)Colonel 9.)State General 10.)Peace Marshal Flair and Caldari are two words that don't mix to my knowledge of lore. Its very serious flair ![Blink](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png) .
:)
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Why should infrantry that don't own vehicles, that can't balance their own mechanics, balance vehicles
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Nocturnal Soul
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Posted - 2015.03.01 05:35:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:I was kind of disappointed with the the master race names (Caldari State) they seem a bit more like standard, modern rankings. But the Amar sound awesome, but of course that's True's decision ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) . Whaaaaat!!!!! Come on how are they STILL basic![Cry](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cry.png)
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game RUST415
465
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Posted - 2015.03.01 05:43:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:I was kind of disappointed with the the master race names (Caldari State) they seem a bit more like standard, modern rankings. But the Amar sound awesome, but of course that's True's decision ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) . Whaaaaat!!!!! Come on how are they STILL basic ![Cry](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cry.png) Click link afterwards ( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦)
Caldari Loyalist
Why should infrantry that don't own vehicles, that can't balance their own mechanics, balance vehicles
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Nocturnal Soul
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Posted - 2015.03.01 05:49:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:I was kind of disappointed with the the master race names (Caldari State) they seem a bit more like standard, modern rankings. But the Amar sound awesome, but of course that's True's decision ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) . Whaaaaat!!!!! Come on how are they STILL basic ![Cry](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cry.png) Click link afterwards ( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) Thought you were agreeing to Fizzer's previous post
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LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.03.01 05:52:00 -
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But you guys forget the best part 11. Caldari bad ass
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Nocturnal Soul
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Posted - 2015.03.01 06:10:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:But you guys forget the best part 11. Caldari bad ass Oh you mean that rank below Specialist Crusader?
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.03.01 06:14:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:But you guys forget the best part 11. Caldari bad ass Oh you mean that rank below Specialist Crusader? I will have the head of you QUEEN!Release the beast
Caldari Loyalist
Why should infrantry that don't own vehicles, that can't balance their own mechanics, balance vehicles
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