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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:31:00 -
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Just humor me.
Let's pretend Dust 514 came out with a subscription option. $15/month gets you...
- 30 - day passive and active booster (the 50% kind, not omegas)
- Auto-claim warbarge goodies every 24 hours
- 5 keys
- 10,000 AUR
Do you subscribe? If not, why?
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Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:34:00 -
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No.
Just don't feel like the package is worth my 15$/mo.
When free to play games offer a subscription model, they tend to give you TONS of goodies to keep you subscribed, and they increase the rewards the longer you are subbed.
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Brush Master
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:34:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Just humor me.Let's pretend Dust 514 came out with a subscription option. $15/month gets you... - 30 - day passive and active booster (the 50% kind, not omegas)
- Auto-claim warbarge goodies every 24 hours
- 10 keys
- 10,000 AUR
Do you subscribe? If not, why?
Would also like 6 month / 1 year with a bit of discounts(i.e $15 / month, $75 / 6 months, $120 / 1 Year ). Would be great if the boosting was all automatic and would include Factional as well, then I would be on board.
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Travis Stanush
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:35:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Just humor me.Let's pretend Dust 514 came out with a subscription option. $15/month gets you... - 30 - day passive and active booster (the 50% kind, not omegas)
- Auto-claim warbarge goodies every 24 hours
- 10 keys
- 10,000 AUR
Do you subscribe? If not, why?
Meh why not it might actually help me save money.
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Archduke Ferd1nand
nos nothi
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:35:00 -
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If they were omegas, and the 15$ i spend subscribing outweighs what I could otherwise get by spending 15$/month...
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:36:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Just humor me.Let's pretend Dust 514 came out with a subscription option. $15/month gets you... - 30 - day passive and active booster (the 50% kind, not omegas)
- Auto-claim warbarge goodies every 24 hours
- 10 keys
- 10,000 AUR
Do you subscribe? If not, why?
Nope. Not enough content in-game at this point for me to do so. Now, and I'm humoring you :V, if we had a massive overhaul and there was actually a connection with EVE, a real market, wars in Null-Sec, all that good juicy stuff, then Hell yeah. I'd imagine there would be more benefits from this but then I'd love to support CCP by then and some of these items, which you would pay for with $15, could be sold on the market for loads of ISK later.
This is under the assumption that it's an optional subscription, of course. That's what I assumed you meant.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:38:00 -
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Archduke Ferd1nand wrote:If they were omegas, and the 15$ i spend subscribing outweighs what I could otherwise get by spending 15$/month... Can't get auto-claim warbarge goodies without this sub. The keys and boosters alone are more than $15 in value.
Brush Master wrote:Would also like 6 month / 1 year with a bit of discounts. Would be great if the boosting was all automatic and would include Factional as well, then I would be on board. FW booster of choice would be a nice bonus to add in there.
Cat Merc wrote:No.
Just don't feel like the package is worth my 15$/mo.
When free to play games offer a subscription model, they tend to give you TONS of goodies to keep you subscribed, and they increase the rewards the longer you are subbed. So if this package had more stuffz you would be interested? What about Brush's idea for a FW booster or two? What else would the sub have to offer you to get you to buy it?
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Aidualc
LATINOS KILLERS CORP
Dark Taboo
56
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:38:00 -
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***(Grumpy Cat)*** NO
Just buy 40,000Aurum + 3,000... and get all this things... each time you want. |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:40:00 -
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Aidualc wrote:***(Grumpy Cat)*** NO
Just buy 40,000Aurum + 3,000... and get all this things... each time you want. No autoclaim warbarge goodies without a sub AND 40,000 AUR is $20. This is more stuff for only $15.
Math is hard, I know 
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:40:00 -
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This game is not worth 15$/mo.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:41:00 -
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Atiim wrote:This game is not worth 15$/mo. Okay, going to put you down as a 'No' then.
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Fixitgd
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:41:00 -
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5. PVE
6. Content - what was for told in the old soon tm.
7. Move to PS4
I would pay since nothing is or should be free in life, we all have to eat.
"Suck it!" - S.M.
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Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:45:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Cat Merc wrote:No.
Just don't feel like the package is worth my 15$/mo.
When free to play games offer a subscription model, they tend to give you TONS of goodies to keep you subscribed, and they increase the rewards the longer you are subbed. So if this package had more stuffz you would be interested? What about Brush's idea for a FW booster or two? What else would the sub have to offer you to get you to buy it?
Maybe.
As I've said, subscription models in F2P games tend to be very, VERY good value, disproportionately so from just buying their currency otherwise.
In DUST I guess the analogy would be a veteran pack worth of value in a 15$/mo package.
However to keep people subscribed and not just use it as a one off thing, the rewards grow the longer you are subbed.
Putting a vet pack value package in 15$ just like that would just result in nobody buying the vet pack ever lol
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Brush Master
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:45:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:No.
Just don't feel like the package is worth my 15$/mo.
When free to play games offer a subscription model, they tend to give you TONS of goodies to keep you subscribed, and they increase the rewards the longer you are subbed.
Additional monthly goodies chosen by CCP would be a good incentive to add.
Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ?
True Logi. Flying DS from the start.
@dustreports
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Brush Master
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
1438
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:48:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Cat Merc wrote:No.
Just don't feel like the package is worth my 15$/mo.
When free to play games offer a subscription model, they tend to give you TONS of goodies to keep you subscribed, and they increase the rewards the longer you are subbed. So if this package had more stuffz you would be interested? What about Brush's idea for a FW booster or two? What else would the sub have to offer you to get you to buy it? Maybe. As I've said, subscription models in F2P games tend to be very, VERY good value, disproportionately so from just buying their currency otherwise. In DUST I guess the analogy would be a veteran pack worth of value in a 15$/mo package. However to keep people subscribed and not just use it as a one off thing, the rewards grow the longer you are subbed. Putting a vet pack value package in 15$ just like that would just result in nobody buying the vet pack ever lol
Good point on not making the vets packs useless but both can exist. The 1 year of subscription just cost a bit more than the top pack, so like $120 for a year.
Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ?
True Logi. Flying DS from the start.
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General Mosquito
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:49:00 -
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Atiim wrote:This game was never, and shall never be worth 15$/mo.
FTFY
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1913 DfLo
ScReWeD uP InC
Smart Deploy
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:54:00 -
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I wouldn't have tried this game out if there was a subscription. I would say keep it free. Isn't PS2 free on PS4?
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Brush Master
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:56:00 -
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1913 DfLo wrote:I wouldn't have tried this game out if there was a subscription. I would say keep it free. Isn't PS2 free on PS4?
He said it was an option, not a requirement.
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True Logi. Flying DS from the start.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:56:00 -
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1913 DfLo wrote:I wouldn't have tried this game out if there was a subscription. I would say keep it free. Isn't PS2 free on PS4? Check the post title: subscription OPTION.
Everyone is F2P. You can sub for additional, minor perks.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:01:00 -
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Fixitgd wrote:I would pay since nothing is or should be free in life, we all have to eat. True statement. If the sub was enticing enough, CCP could count on many players spending $15 a month on a sub. Assured revenue would allow them to increase the scale of their projects to include things like PvE and what not.
The current payment model is too chaotic. They can't count on generating the same amount of money this month as they did last month, you feel me?
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1913 DfLo
ScReWeD uP InC
Smart Deploy
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:05:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:1913 DfLo wrote:I wouldn't have tried this game out if there was a subscription. I would say keep it free. Isn't PS2 free on PS4? Check the post title: subscription OPTION. Everyone is F2P. You can sub for additional, minor perks.
Alright. Got it. Didn't pay that much attention the first time. In that case maybe so depending. More pay to win pretty much.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:07:00 -
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1913 DfLo wrote:Alright. Got it. Didn't pay that much attention the first time. In that case maybe so depending. More pay to win pretty much. The proposed rewards are boosters, a tiny amount of free aurum, some keys, and auto-claim warbarge components (a 100% convenience feature).
How is any of that P2W? None of these features grant you more armor HP or faster run speeds or something.
"You don't want McSyphilis. Don't nobody want McSyphilis." - One Eyed King
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:13:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:However to keep people subscribed and not just use it as a one off thing, the rewards grow the longer you are subbed. Putting a vet pack value package in 15$ just like that would just result in nobody buying the vet pack ever lol I was thinking of some kind of "loyalty" thing that resets if you end your subscription.
(5,000 AUR) x (Months Subbed) maybe? Up to a cap of 60,000 AUR?
With that kind of steady aurum you could complete your warbarge in as little as 55 years.
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Force Seventrum
Mikanomic Force
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:14:00 -
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20 $ (or in my case euros) for getting me into EVE and somekind of this perks you decribed here in the thread would me role the dim every month. Ahh dont forget about Valkyri... Bind all three things to a service. for 20 euro a month todally would sign this :D.
never the less. 15 euro dust subscription in case I m not playing eve at the moment would work out for me too.
Green Light EVE:Legion!
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1913 DfLo
ScReWeD uP InC
Smart Deploy
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:18:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:1913 DfLo wrote:Alright. Got it. Didn't pay that much attention the first time. In that case maybe so depending. More pay to win pretty much. The proposed rewards are boosters, a tiny amount of free aurum, some keys, and auto-claim warbarge components (a 100% convenience feature). How is any of that P2W? None of these features grant you more armor HP or faster run speeds or something.
But who knows what else would get added to the package as you go along with the subscription but it's pretend so who knows. I'm still waiting for my Newsletter.
That's ScReWeD uP
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Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:22:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:With that kind of steady aurum you could complete your warbarge in as little as 55 years.
Good lord!
Such an amazing deal!
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:22:00 -
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1913 DfLo wrote:But who knows what else would get added to the package as you go along with the subscription but it's pretend so who knows. I'm still waiting for my Newsletter. I'm presenting the package as not P2W. Let's continue with the notion that the subscription option does not offer anything P2W, what so ever.
Convenience? Yes. Probably many useful features like auto-claim warbarge stuff or +10 max fittings. Nothing that will flat out give you in-game combat bonuses.
Having said that, would you be interested?
I have no idea where your newsletter is. Open a support ticket?
"You don't want McSyphilis. Don't nobody want McSyphilis." - One Eyed King
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Alaika Arbosa
Minmatar Republic
2479
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:26:00 -
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Fixitgd wrote:5. PVE
6. Content - what was for told in the old soon tm.
7. Move to PS4
I would pay since nothing is or should be free in life, we all have to eat.
+Single Login for Dust/Eve/Valkyrie and I'll pay a $30 USD sub
We the pc players make up a huge majority of active players. --Roman837
^^ROFLMAO
OMG I need to catch my breath now..
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
7653
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:31:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:+Single Login for Dust/Eve/Valkyrie and I'll pay a $30 USD sub Dust 514 ($15), Valk ($15), and Eve ($15) = $45/month.
I seriously doubt CCP would let you sub to two games and get one sub free  Do we even know if Valk will have a sub component or not?
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Force Seventrum
Mikanomic Force
37
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:32:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKafw3dUT4Y&list=PLldrBIEnJ5hMIXwk_e8-VZb0EldJqXmg_#t=4152
*sorry* had to :D
Green Light EVE:Legion!
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1913 DfLo
ScReWeD uP InC
Smart Deploy
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:49:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:1913 DfLo wrote:But who knows what else would get added to the package as you go along with the subscription but it's pretend so who knows. I'm still waiting for my Newsletter. I'm presenting the package as not P2W. Let's continue with the notion that the subscription option does not offer anything P2W, what so ever. Convenience? Yes. Probably many useful features like auto-claim warbarge stuff or +10 max fittings. Nothing that will flat out give you in-game combat bonuses. Having said that, would you be interested? I have no idea where your newsletter is. Open a support ticket?
Sounds pretty good. Have you received your Newsletter?
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:51:00 -
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1913 DfLo wrote:Sounds pretty good. Have you received your Newsletter? Nope.
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PR0T0TYPE-PH0ENIX PR0JECT-MK-1
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:57:00 -
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Atiim wrote:This game is not worth 15$/mo.
this^ |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.02.09 17:00:00 -
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PR0T0TYPE-PH0ENIX PR0JECT-MK-1 wrote:Atiim wrote:This game is not worth 15$/mo. this^ Since the sub is optional you can opt to remain a F2Player. No worries.
Is there anything the sub could offer you that would make you consider it?
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1913 DfLo
ScReWeD uP InC
Smart Deploy
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Posted - 2015.02.09 17:19:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:1913 DfLo wrote:Sounds pretty good. Have you received your Newsletter? Nope.
We will keep waiting then. o7
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Ku Shala
UNITED MERCINARY AND PILOTS ALLIANCE
1218
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Posted - 2015.02.09 17:26:00 -
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Ive played worse online pc games for 20+ a month, I keep saying if every month had a fresh $20 merc pack I would buy one monthly .
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
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Posted - 2015.02.09 17:40:00 -
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Atiim wrote:This game is not worth 15$/mo.
It's barely worth $15 once.
KDR matchmaking would patch all the patches into pure patchitudity.
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Vesta Opalus
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
399
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Posted - 2015.02.09 18:13:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Just humor me.Let's pretend Dust 514 came out with a subscription option. $15/month gets you... - 30 - day passive and active booster (the 50% kind, not omegas)
- Auto-claim warbarge goodies every 24 hours
- 5 keys
- 10,000 AUR
Do you subscribe? If not, why?
No offense to CCP, but this game isnt worth paying a weekly subscription for. Its buggy, the game is very simple and its complexity doesn't justify constant maintenance fees, releases are inconsistent and (in the past) slow and over the long term seem to be hamstrung by upper management being confused about what they want to happen, memory leaks and poor resource usage still make some maps unplayable for the whole match, and so on, and so on.
I enjoy the game and everything, but Im not going to pay for it monthly (and this is from someone who has purchased some aurum). |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2015.02.09 18:20:00 -
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Let's compare to another free-to-play FPS
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Phantoms
Ranges from $9.99 a month to $39.99 every six months, you can buy premium
Quote:100% XP AND AC BOOST FOR THE SUBSCRIPTION PERIOD!
EXCLUSIVE AAA AVATAR!
ACCESS TO MEMBERSGÇÖ ONLY ITEMS AND LIMITED-EDITION PROMOTIONS!
EARLY ACCESS TO NEW ITEMS!
FREE ARMOR REPAIR FOR THE SUBSCRIPTION PERIOD!
EXTRA STORAGE SPACE (UP TO 1,000 SLOTS)!
GAIN WEAPON PROFICIENCY AT TWICE THE NORMAL RATE!
No, I would not pay $15 a month for what is listed in the OP.
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Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
147
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Posted - 2015.02.09 18:25:00 -
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No.
Why the F would anyone spend on a sub for a game on a dying console without any guarantee that it will continue on next gen consoles (Ps4 please rather than the beast mode windows phone) or pc?.
This is TechMechMeds tanker.
Redeployside - You are just in time for minimal immersion edition of ps2.
Enjoy.
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TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
147
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Posted - 2015.02.09 18:26:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Let's compare to another free-to-play FPS
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: PhantomsRanges from $9.99 a month to $39.99 every six months, you can buy premiumQuote:100% XP AND AC BOOST FOR THE SUBSCRIPTION PERIOD!
EXCLUSIVE AAA AVATAR!
ACCESS TO MEMBERSGÇÖ ONLY ITEMS AND LIMITED-EDITION PROMOTIONS!
EARLY ACCESS TO NEW ITEMS!
FREE ARMOR REPAIR FOR THE SUBSCRIPTION PERIOD!
EXTRA STORAGE SPACE (UP TO 1,000 SLOTS)!
GAIN WEAPON PROFICIENCY AT TWICE THE NORMAL RATE! No, I would not pay $15 a month for what is listed in the OP.
Phantoms is on the pc anyway, not some last gen pos.
This is TechMechMeds tanker.
Redeployside - You are just in time for minimal immersion edition of ps2.
Enjoy.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
7656
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Posted - 2015.02.09 18:27:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:No offense to CCP, but this game isnt worth paying a weekly subscription for. Its buggy, the game is very simple and its complexity doesn't justify constant maintenance fees, releases are inconsistent and (in the past) slow and over the long term seem to be hamstrung by upper management being confused about what they want to happen, memory leaks and poor resource usage still make some maps unplayable for the whole match, and so on, and so on. Help me understand, you want CCP to fix bugs, make the game deeper/more complex, and have more frequent releases by not having a steady, consistent revenue stream.
Got it.
Take the $15 sub option we are talking about at face value. Take away anything that you perceive to be wrong with Dust 514 or it's development. What are some things that would make you consider subbing? Lower sub cost? Is there some interesting feature (that does not grant an in-game damage bonus or similar P2W bonus) that you want?
Or you are 100% against the idea of a sub purely based on the principle? That's perfectly understandable. Some people hate the idea of having subs. In this hypothetical situation there would be a F2P and sub option.
Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:No, I would not pay $15 a month for what is listed in the OP. Okay. What about $10 for what was listed? Can you think of any kind of convenience feature that would make that $15 worth your while?
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TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
147
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Posted - 2015.02.09 18:27:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Just humor me.Let's pretend Dust 514 came out with a subscription option. $15/month gets you... - 30 - day passive and active booster (the 50% kind, not omegas)
- Auto-claim warbarge goodies every 24 hours
- 10 keys
- 10,000 AUR
Do you subscribe? If not, why? Nope. Not enough content in-game at this point for me to do so. Now, and I'm humoring you :V, if we had a massive overhaul and there was actually a connection with EVE, a real market, wars in Null-Sec, all that good juicy stuff, then Hell yeah. I'd imagine there would be more benefits from this but then I'd love to support CCP by then and some of these items, which you would pay for with $15, could be sold on the market for loads of ISK later. This is under the assumption that it's an optional subscription, of course. That's what I assumed you meant.
On the ps3?, never.
This is TechMechMeds tanker.
Redeployside - You are just in time for minimal immersion edition of ps2.
Enjoy.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
3186
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Posted - 2015.02.09 18:36:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:No, I would not pay $15 a month for what is listed in the OP. Okay. What about $10 for what was listed? Can you think of any kind of convenience feature that would make that $15 worth your while?
Personally I would want a vanity item.
Honestly, I've never been a fan of subscriptions for F2P games but am a huge fan for the micro-transaction system, studies have shown that people more then anything like to buy vanity items, so I think things like the Quafe suits need to be made more, and maybe even "Packs" like "Buy this and get a great deal on a 3 day booster, a a LE suit and a pair of weapons" or something like that.
In Phantoms and in DUST most of my purchases are just to look "cool" and different.
Imagine the AUR that would be sold if CCP announced "Hey want to buy a trophy room for your merc quarters? How about new furniture? How about an upgrade that for 200 AUR the AI in your room will move and look at you? Would you like to display your favorite rack of weapons on the wall or see a planet?"
A subscription would have to give me some kind of vanity item, a special look for my quarters maybe, imagine a Merc Room decked out in the Templar colors.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2015.02.09 19:18:00 -
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12$
-Passive Sp for all characters on the account and a built in booster until they reach maybe 2/3 of your highest characters sp.
-Boost to loyalty points gained by playing matches so that it's actually doable and fun like it should've been.
-Discount on any aur items
-20k/aur month
-Access to a dust 514 test client
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Vesta Opalus
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
400
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Ripley Riley wrote:Vesta Opalus wrote:No offense to CCP, but this game isnt worth paying a weekly subscription for. Its buggy, the game is very simple and its complexity doesn't justify constant maintenance fees, releases are inconsistent and (in the past) slow and over the long term seem to be hamstrung by upper management being confused about what they want to happen, memory leaks and poor resource usage still make some maps unplayable for the whole match, and so on, and so on. Help me understand: you want CCP to fix bugs, make the game deeper/more complex, and have more frequent releases by not having a steady, consistent revenue stream? Got it. Take the $15 sub option we are talking about at face value. Take away anything that you perceive to be wrong with Dust 514 or it's development. What are some things that would make you consider subbing? Lower sub cost? Is there some interesting feature (that does not grant an in-game damage bonus or similar P2W bonus) that you want? Or you are 100% against the idea of a sub purely based on the principle? That's perfectly understandable. Some people hate the idea of having subs. In this hypothetical situation there would be a F2P and sub option.
This aint world of warcraft bro, its a lobby shooter. Maybe if the game was like a real MMO with free exploration/encounters/sandboxy stuff and was on the PC instead of the PS3 (which is a huge limitation to the future of the game in itself that they shouldnt have subjected it to in the first place) I might pay subscription if the price was right. But as things are now? No. Sorry. 
Just some random extra thoughts:
I would not subscribe to any game that had some kind of pay to win mechanic (subscribers get cosmetic or fun stuff is fine though).
If the game was more thoroughly integrated with Eve that would be very attractive.
If the game had free roaming sandbox style game play on planets (with planetary conquest/skirmish fight style activities available as well in a sort of instanced battleground system as in world of warcraft) plus some interesting resource/trading style **** integrated with eve economy that would be cool. |
Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
70
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Posted - 2015.02.09 19:32:00 -
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Brush Master wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Just humor me.Let's pretend Dust 514 came out with a subscription option. $15/month gets you... - 30 - day passive and active booster (the 50% kind, not omegas)
- Auto-claim warbarge goodies every 24 hours
- 10 keys
- 10,000 AUR
Do you subscribe? If not, why? Would also like 6 month / 1 year with a bit of discounts(i.e $15 / month, $75 / 6 months, $120 / 1 Year ). Would be great if the boosting was all automatic and would include Factional as well, then I would be on board.
So basically EVE's subscription model as far as price goes?
"I went looking for trouble, and I found it." - Charles Ponzi
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.02.09 19:36:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:If the game had free roaming sandbox style game play on planets (with planetary conquest/skirmish fight style activities available as well in a sort of instanced battleground system as in world of warcraft) plus some interesting resource/trading style **** integrated with eve economy that would be cool.
Dust 514 in it's current form: no
Eve: Legion (PC) as some have imagined it with open world elements, an Eve link, and what not: maybe?
Fair enough.
There isn't a wrong answer to this question, folks. Well except "diarrhea". That's a wrong answer.
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Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries
1308
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Posted - 2015.02.09 19:39:00 -
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I would pay $5 a month. That's $60, or the price of a new game per year.
$15? You out of your gotdamn mind.
Half-Assed Forum Warrior / Half-Decent Commando / Damn Good Logi / Matari Loyalty 7
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
7658
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Posted - 2015.02.09 19:41:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:I would pay $5 a month. That's $60, or the price of a new game per year.
$15? You out of your gotdamn mind. What if the sub was $15 for 90 days? Same benefits, same end price, just a larger upfront cost. Just trying to think of ways to make sure the price isn't being eaten up by credit card fees.
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Vesta Opalus
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
400
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Posted - 2015.02.09 19:43:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Vesta Opalus wrote:If the game had free roaming sandbox style game play on planets (with planetary conquest/skirmish fight style activities available as well in a sort of instanced battleground system as in world of warcraft) plus some interesting resource/trading style **** integrated with eve economy that would be cool. Dust 514 in it's current form: no Eve: Legion (PC) as some have imagined it with open world elements, an Eve link, and what not: maybe? Fair enough. There isn't a wrong answer to this question, folks. Well except "diarrhea". That's a wrong answer.
Oh thank god, I was just about to type "watery poo", but then what I wrote popped into my head. Whew! |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
17038
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Posted - 2015.02.09 19:45:00 -
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Unfortunately not. I'd never subscribe to a game that is essentially early access and incomplete.
"This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
7658
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Posted - 2015.02.09 19:47:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Unfortunately not. I'd never subscribe to a game that is essentially early access and incomplete. Fair enough.
Just curious, have you made an aurum purchase of any amount in the last 6 months?
Vesta Opalus wrote:Oh thank god, I was just about to type "watery poo", but then what I wrote popped into my head. Whew! Close call!
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7th Son 7
BLITZKRIEG7
498
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Posted - 2015.02.09 19:51:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Just humor me.Let's pretend Dust 514 came out with a subscription option. $15/month gets you... - 30 - day passive and active booster (the 50% kind, not omegas)
- Auto-claim warbarge goodies every 24 hours
- 5 keys
- 10,000 AUR
Do you subscribe? If not, why?
No, CCP is too secretive about the future of Dust currently, so no to a subscription svc. However if I had more info regarding Dust 514 future, yes. It's an investment, and I like sound investments :)
Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
7658
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Posted - 2015.02.09 19:54:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:No, CCP is too secretive about the future of Dust currently, so no to a subscription svc. However if I had more info regarding Dust 514 future, yes. It's an investment, and I like sound investments :) Some would say that the roadmap is a pretty good indication that Dust is sticking around for a while.
Or do you mean how far away is Legion? I'd like to know more myself.
"You don't want McSyphilis. Don't nobody want McSyphilis." - One Eyed King
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7th Son 7
BLITZKRIEG7
498
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Posted - 2015.02.09 19:57:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:No, CCP is too secretive about the future of Dust currently, so no to a subscription svc. However if I had more info regarding Dust 514 future, yes. It's an investment, and I like sound investments :) Some would say that the roadmap is a pretty good indication that Dust is sticking around for a while. Or do you mean how far away is Legion? I'd like to know more myself.
Yes refering to Legion, I would like to know it won't be money down the drain and my investment will transfer etc
Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
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Baal Omniscient
Qualified Scrub
2161
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Posted - 2015.02.09 21:34:00 -
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Two simple things: A guarantee that Dust would continue on the ps4 and that development of it would no longer be done by a skeleton crew.
If I'm going to pay regularly for something, 'laser focused' needs to be more than an inside joke passed around by the players, it needs to be the dev team's motto. The knowledge that a dev team of decent size is constantly at work to improve, expand and debug my gaming experience is a must if I'm going to be shelling out cash on a game on a regular basis. Of course this implies constant developer feedback and being able to tell community feedback is being properly listened to.
As for the other, I want to know the game isn't going to drop out from under me one day, I need to know that the game will continue onwards in a meaningful direction on a console that follows suit.
Barring that, I could not see myself paying monthly for something that infuriates me so badly.
Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
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bathtubist
TRUE SAVAGES
Learning Alliance
36
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Posted - 2015.02.09 21:40:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Just humor me.
Let's pretend Dust 514 came out with a subscription option
Lets not |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
7662
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Posted - 2015.02.09 21:42:00 -
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bathtubist wrote:Lets not Why? It's an option. You are not forced to subscribe to play. How does it existing hurt you?
"You don't want McSyphilis. Don't nobody want McSyphilis." - One Eyed King
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
7662
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Posted - 2015.02.09 21:48:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:Two simple things: A guarantee that Dust would continue on the ps4 and that development of it would no longer be done by a skeleton crew. Considering that we have heard from the executive producer himself that Legion is not going to the PlayStation 4, I think we can pretty much close that case.
With a steady revenue stream we absolutely could see the development team grow.
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TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
147
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Posted - 2015.02.09 21:52:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:Two simple things: A guarantee that Dust would continue on the ps4 and that development of it would no longer be done by a skeleton crew. Considering that we have heard from the executive producer himself that Legion is not going to the PlayStation 4, I think we can pretty much close that case. With a steady revenue stream we absolutely could see the development team grow.
They also said no more content, no respecs and no paid for bpos....
What they say and what happens when people support something enough are two different things.
This is TechMechMeds tanker.
Redeployside - You are just in time for minimal immersion edition of ps2.
Enjoy.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
7663
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Posted - 2015.02.09 22:00:00 -
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TerranKnight87 wrote:They also said no more content, no respecs and no paid for bpos....
What they say and what happens when people support something enough are two different things. CCP never said, "We will never have another client-side patch." They just said something to the effect of, "In the near future we have no plans of releasing a client-side patch." It was carefully worded so that if they wanted to, they could. Turns out, they did.
Who said "We will never have respecs." I thought the last piece of communication about respecs we got was from GM Archduke saying that if we do get respecs to watch the usual channels (dev blogs, official website, newsletter, etc.).
Anyway, feel free to keep hoping that Legion will roll out on the PS4. It might, but I promise that if it does it will be post-successful Legion (PC) launch.
"You don't want McSyphilis. Don't nobody want McSyphilis." - One Eyed King
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
5831
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Posted - 2015.02.09 22:05:00 -
[63] - Quote
No.
Reason: I'm a cheap bastard.
What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
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TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
147
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Posted - 2015.02.09 22:07:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:TerranKnight87 wrote:They also said no more content, no respecs and no paid for bpos....
What they say and what happens when people support something enough are two different things. CCP never said, "We will never have another client-side patch." They just said something to the effect of, "At least in the near future we have no plans of releasing a client-side patch." It was carefully worded so that if they wanted to, they could. Turns out, they did. Who said "We will never have respecs." I thought the last piece of communication about respecs we got was from GM Archduke saying that if we do get respecs to watch the usual channels (dev blogs, official website, newsletter, etc.). Anyway, feel free to keep hoping that Legion will roll out on the PS4. It might, but I promise that if it does it will be post-successful Legion (PC) launch.
I don't really care either way as i have both but i want DUST on the ps4 or at least the pc.
And no it was said often that there will never be respecs ever and that our decisions should matter and have consequences. You must be fairly new relatively speaking.
They also said that there will never be paid for bpos as it would border on p2w concerning isk.
Anyone who has been here since beta can attest that the devs have made changes when enough people have supported it and if you have been here that long then why are you so clueless to this?.
This is TechMechMeds tanker.
Redeployside - You are just in time for minimal immersion edition of ps2.
Enjoy.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
7663
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Posted - 2015.02.09 22:16:00 -
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TerranKnight87 wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:TerranKnight87 wrote:They also said no more content, no respecs and no paid for bpos....
What they say and what happens when people support something enough are two different things. CCP never said, "We will never have another client-side patch." They just said something to the effect of, "At least in the near future we have no plans of releasing a client-side patch." It was carefully worded so that if they wanted to, they could. Turns out, they did. Who said "We will never have respecs." I thought the last piece of communication about respecs we got was from GM Archduke saying that if we do get respecs to watch the usual channels (dev blogs, official website, newsletter, etc.). Anyway, feel free to keep hoping that Legion will roll out on the PS4. It might, but I promise that if it does it will be post-successful Legion (PC) launch. I don't really care either way as i have both but i want DUST on the ps4 or at least the pc. And no it was said often that there will never be respecs ever and that our decisions should matter and have consequences. You must be fairly new relatively speaking. They also said that there will never be paid for bpos as it would border on p2w concerning isk. Anyone who has been here since beta can attest that the devs have made changes when enough people have supported it and if you have been here that long then why are you so clueless to this?. Anything pre-Rattati is void, to me at least. The prior devs and EP said all kinds of whacko bullshit on the regular.
Std/mil BPOs being P2W is a good example of that
Either way, we're derailing the thread.
Hit me up in game if you want to continue discussing this particular topic. Otherwise, let's focus on the subscription idea.
"You don't want McSyphilis. Don't nobody want McSyphilis." - One Eyed King
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Vesta Opalus
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
403
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Posted - 2015.02.09 22:18:00 -
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TerranKnight87 wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:TerranKnight87 wrote:They also said no more content, no respecs and no paid for bpos....
What they say and what happens when people support something enough are two different things. CCP never said, "We will never have another client-side patch." They just said something to the effect of, "At least in the near future we have no plans of releasing a client-side patch." It was carefully worded so that if they wanted to, they could. Turns out, they did. Who said "We will never have respecs." I thought the last piece of communication about respecs we got was from GM Archduke saying that if we do get respecs to watch the usual channels (dev blogs, official website, newsletter, etc.). Anyway, feel free to keep hoping that Legion will roll out on the PS4. It might, but I promise that if it does it will be post-successful Legion (PC) launch. I don't really care either way as i have both but i want DUST on the ps4 or at least the pc. And no it was said often that there will never be respecs ever and that our decisions should matter and have consequences. You must be fairly new relatively speaking. They also said that there will never be paid for bpos as it would border on p2w concerning isk. Anyone who has been here since beta can attest that the devs have made changes when enough people have supported it and if you have been here that long then why are you so clueless to this?.
The PC please. PS4 will be subject to the same problems the PS3 has now on a long enough time frame, plus I'd like the game to see mouse/KB controls since controllers are crappy as hell for FPS game control. |
Baal Omniscient
Qualified Scrub
2161
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Posted - 2015.02.09 22:33:00 -
[67] - Quote
Ripley Riley wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:Two simple things: A guarantee that Dust would continue on the ps4 and that development of it would no longer be done by a skeleton crew. Considering that we have heard from the executive producer himself that Legion is not going to the PlayStation 4, I think we can pretty much close that case. With a steady revenue stream we absolutely could see the development team grow.
True, but you also never said I had to be reasonable. And I've seen much more unreasonable requests here than simply 'stick with the console brand you started this mess with'. But barring something happening to move Dust over or shift Legion's focus to ps4, there's simply no motivation for me to pay into this game.
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TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
148
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Posted - 2015.02.09 22:33:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:TerranKnight87 wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:TerranKnight87 wrote:They also said no more content, no respecs and no paid for bpos....
What they say and what happens when people support something enough are two different things. CCP never said, "We will never have another client-side patch." They just said something to the effect of, "At least in the near future we have no plans of releasing a client-side patch." It was carefully worded so that if they wanted to, they could. Turns out, they did. Who said "We will never have respecs." I thought the last piece of communication about respecs we got was from GM Archduke saying that if we do get respecs to watch the usual channels (dev blogs, official website, newsletter, etc.). Anyway, feel free to keep hoping that Legion will roll out on the PS4. It might, but I promise that if it does it will be post-successful Legion (PC) launch. I don't really care either way as i have both but i want DUST on the ps4 or at least the pc. And no it was said often that there will never be respecs ever and that our decisions should matter and have consequences. You must be fairly new relatively speaking. They also said that there will never be paid for bpos as it would border on p2w concerning isk. Anyone who has been here since beta can attest that the devs have made changes when enough people have supported it and if you have been here that long then why are you so clueless to this?. The PC please. PS4 will be subject to the same problems the PS3 has now on a long enough time frame, plus I'd like the game to see mouse/KB controls since controllers are crappy as hell for FPS game control.
We could have dust on the ps4 and legion on the pc, it doesn't have to be one or the other but people need to actually support it.
CCP starts a kickstarter with legally binding contract for a dust port to ps4 where they can expand the game.
CCP continues making legion for pc and continues to say nothing much about.
That's what i'd like to see. Noone in their right mind will pay a sub when this http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust shows a slow but steady decline in player activity in the long term graphs. With ps4's and xjokes becoming cheaper along with pc's, it's not going to get much better really.
I am already buying a new lolps3 next month for dust myself,, that's how much i like the game and i want to see it continue.
This is TechMechMeds tanker.
Redeployside - You are just in time for minimal immersion edition of ps2.
Enjoy.
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General Mosquito
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2015.02.09 22:39:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Help me understand: you want CCP to fix bugs, make the game deeper/more complex, and have more frequent releases by not having a steady, consistent revenue stream?
I think people who supported CCP in this enterprise(Beta Vets like myself who put money in while the game was still clearly in development) deserved more than they got.
CCP should have taken that money, that came from committed and enthusiastic players and not prodced the turdburger that was Uprising 1.0 - 1.7.
CCP could have treated those customers with respect before Fanfest when they knew they were going to announce Legion.
But sure, you give them money, that they have done literally nothing to earn, for a product that doesn't even make worst of lists because people assume it got cancelled. That will surely motivate them to make something actually saleable instead of a fap fest for e-tards who can't even figure out how to mine in a 0.9 but want to pretend to be a part of new eden.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
3229
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Posted - 2015.02.09 22:39:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Just humor me.Let's pretend Dust 514 came out with a subscription option. $15/month gets you... - 30 - day passive and active booster (the 50% kind, not omegas)
- Auto-claim warbarge goodies every 24 hours
- 5 keys
- 10,000 AUR
Do you subscribe? If not, why?
Anymore? Likely no. I have 44 million SP now. If I were to cap out two weeks I would pretty much have every suit that I have wanted. Minmatar Logistics, Amarr Heavy, Tanks, ADS, Caldari Scout. Beyond that, I don't really know what I want.
To be fair, I am surprised that CCP have not done something like the above. I would bet that if Legion becomes a thing on the PC, this option will be explored. However, I hope the game doesn't do it like DDO does. "Oh, you have a subscription for access to this? Good, now pay more to use it." 15 bucks a month for a pack of stuff is more sane.
The value is there . A 30 day pack of boosters in 20k Aurum (10 dollars), 10k Aurum is 5 dollars. I forget how much keys are but auto-claiming is a hell of a feature that would be useful. As I said, I wouldn't do it anymore because I have already put in enough time and money to not need to. A year ago? Probably.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.02.09 22:53:00 -
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 General Mosquito wrote:I think people who supported CCP in this enterprise(Beta Vets like myself who put money in while the game was still clearly in development) deserved more than they got.
CCP should have taken that money, that came from committed and enthusiastic players and not prodced the turdburger that was Uprising 1.0 - 1.7.
CCP could have treated those customers with respect before Fanfest when they knew they were going to announce Legion.
But sure, you give them money, that they have done literally nothing to earn, for a product that doesn't even make worst of lists because people assume it got cancelled. That will surely motivate them to make something actually saleable instead of a fap fest for e-tards who can't even figure out how to mine in a 0.9 but want to pretend to be a part of new eden. All I hear is another bittervet upset because of the old EP's bullshit.
Yeah, he sucked. That's why CCP fired him. Since we have CCP Rouge we have less over-promising lies and more patches/hotfixes. Rattati is trying to iterate on this game, but nothing he develops will come to pass if CCP doesn't turn a profit from Dust 514 as of today, February 9th, 2015. I don't give a **** about what you spent way back when in beta. That money doesn't fund Dust 514 right now.
It sucks. I feel for you. If you were here I'd buy you a milkshake.
We have a roadmap. We have community feedback threads. CCP is trying to tread water, but because of some **** that happened before Rouge and Rattati got here you are going to torpedo Dust's chances? You're really hardkore man
Now I'm going to tell you what I told TerranKnight87: Hit me up in game if you want to continue discussing this particular topic. Otherwise, let's focus on the subscription idea.
Spademan wrote:No.
Reason: I'm a cheap bastard. Nothing wrong with being frugal.
Joseph Ridgeson wrote:The value is there . A 30 day pack of boosters in 20k Aurum (10 dollars), 10k Aurum is 5 dollars. I forget how much keys are but auto-claiming is a hell of a feature that would be useful. As I said, I wouldn't do it anymore because I have already put in enough time and money to not need to. A year ago? Probably. Yeah, the more I read the feature list to more I realize this is stuff that benefits new players more than vets. Maybe a few more QoL features? More maximum fittings was suggested earlier. I was thinking that it might be cool to get a lump sum of warbarge components.
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Isa Lucifer
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
157
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Fixitgd wrote:5. PVE
6. Content - what was for told in the old soon tm.
7. Move to PS4
I would pay since nothing is or should be free in life, we all have to eat.
This. Move to PS4 and PC.
I hope CCP is looking at this. How much we want your product. C'mon Rattati. We are counting on you and your team.
"There was the age before Rattati, and then The Lord send His son..."
Amarr Victor
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General Mosquito
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Ripley Riley wrote:All I hear is another bittervet upset because of the old EP's bullshit. Yeah, he sucked. That's why CCP fired him. Since we have CCP Rouge we have less over-promising lies and more patches/hotfixes. Rattati is trying to iterate on this game, but nothing he develops will come to pass if CCP doesn't turn a profit from Dust 514 as of today, February 9th, 2015. I don't give a **** about what you spent way back when in beta. That money doesn't fund Dust 514 right now. It sucks. I feel for you. If you were here I'd buy you a milkshake. We have a roadmap. We have community feedback threads. CCP is trying to tread water, but because of some **** that happened before Rouge and Rattati got here you are going to torpedo Dust's chances? You're really hardkore man Now I'm going to tell you what I told TerranKnight87: Hit me up in game if you want to continue discussing this particular topic. Otherwise, let's focus on the subscription idea.
My concern for the profitability of Dust went out the window the day they announced Legion. Their concern likely did as well.
It was only once they realized that pumping Vaporware after what happened with WoD would really sully their rep as a company, so they scaled it back and are now trying to milk the players of Dust to pay(essentially a second time) for the development.
CCP had a consistent revenue stream with eager players, and the crapped the bed. So instead of making a better game, they added more microtransactions and options for people to spend their money.
As long as the underlying game is so shoddy, and without a future(You put your faith in CCP to get Legion made, smart people won't), there is no point in having a subscription model discussion.
There is nothing to subscribe to! Who subscribes to a lobby shooter?
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The Attorney General - Biomassed when unbanned
Only 9 more alts to go.
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Ripley Riley
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General Mosquito wrote:As long as the underlying game is so shoddy, and without a future(You put your faith in CCP to get Legion made, smart people won't), there is no point in having a subscription model discussion. So you disagree with the idea of a subscription model for Dust. That's all you had to say  Thanks for your input. Even negative feedback has purpose. In fact, sometimes its even more valuable.
"You don't want McSyphilis. Don't nobody want McSyphilis." - One Eyed King
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Fixitgd
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Isa Lucifer wrote:Fixitgd wrote:5. PVE
6. Content - what was for told in the old soon tm.
7. Move to PS4
I would pay since nothing is or should be free in life, we all have to eat.
This. Move to PS4 and PC. I hope CCP is looking at this. How much we want your product. C'mon Rattati. We are counting on you and your team. "There was the age before Rattati, and then The Lord send His son..."
The DUST Messiah has come..... But we need to still fill or half fill the coffers so he may take us with him to PS4.
"Suck it!" - S.M.
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