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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:31:00 -
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Just humor me.
Let's pretend Dust 514 came out with a subscription option. $15/month gets you...
- 30 - day passive and active booster (the 50% kind, not omegas)
- Auto-claim warbarge goodies every 24 hours
- 5 keys
- 10,000 AUR
Do you subscribe? If not, why?
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:38:00 -
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Archduke Ferd1nand wrote:If they were omegas, and the 15$ i spend subscribing outweighs what I could otherwise get by spending 15$/month... Can't get auto-claim warbarge goodies without this sub. The keys and boosters alone are more than $15 in value.
Brush Master wrote:Would also like 6 month / 1 year with a bit of discounts. Would be great if the boosting was all automatic and would include Factional as well, then I would be on board. FW booster of choice would be a nice bonus to add in there.
Cat Merc wrote:No.
Just don't feel like the package is worth my 15$/mo.
When free to play games offer a subscription model, they tend to give you TONS of goodies to keep you subscribed, and they increase the rewards the longer you are subbed. So if this package had more stuffz you would be interested? What about Brush's idea for a FW booster or two? What else would the sub have to offer you to get you to buy it?
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:40:00 -
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Aidualc wrote:***(Grumpy Cat)*** NO
Just buy 40,000Aurum + 3,000... and get all this things... each time you want. No autoclaim warbarge goodies without a sub AND 40,000 AUR is $20. This is more stuff for only $15.
Math is hard, I know 
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:41:00 -
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Atiim wrote:This game is not worth 15$/mo. Okay, going to put you down as a 'No' then.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:56:00 -
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1913 DfLo wrote:I wouldn't have tried this game out if there was a subscription. I would say keep it free. Isn't PS2 free on PS4? Check the post title: subscription OPTION.
Everyone is F2P. You can sub for additional, minor perks.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:01:00 -
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Fixitgd wrote:I would pay since nothing is or should be free in life, we all have to eat. True statement. If the sub was enticing enough, CCP could count on many players spending $15 a month on a sub. Assured revenue would allow them to increase the scale of their projects to include things like PvE and what not.
The current payment model is too chaotic. They can't count on generating the same amount of money this month as they did last month, you feel me?
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:07:00 -
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1913 DfLo wrote:Alright. Got it. Didn't pay that much attention the first time. In that case maybe so depending. More pay to win pretty much. The proposed rewards are boosters, a tiny amount of free aurum, some keys, and auto-claim warbarge components (a 100% convenience feature).
How is any of that P2W? None of these features grant you more armor HP or faster run speeds or something.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:13:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:However to keep people subscribed and not just use it as a one off thing, the rewards grow the longer you are subbed. Putting a vet pack value package in 15$ just like that would just result in nobody buying the vet pack ever lol I was thinking of some kind of "loyalty" thing that resets if you end your subscription.
(5,000 AUR) x (Months Subbed) maybe? Up to a cap of 60,000 AUR?
With that kind of steady aurum you could complete your warbarge in as little as 55 years.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:22:00 -
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1913 DfLo wrote:But who knows what else would get added to the package as you go along with the subscription but it's pretend so who knows. I'm still waiting for my Newsletter. I'm presenting the package as not P2W. Let's continue with the notion that the subscription option does not offer anything P2W, what so ever.
Convenience? Yes. Probably many useful features like auto-claim warbarge stuff or +10 max fittings. Nothing that will flat out give you in-game combat bonuses.
Having said that, would you be interested?
I have no idea where your newsletter is. Open a support ticket?
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:31:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:+Single Login for Dust/Eve/Valkyrie and I'll pay a $30 USD sub Dust 514 ($15), Valk ($15), and Eve ($15) = $45/month.
I seriously doubt CCP would let you sub to two games and get one sub free  Do we even know if Valk will have a sub component or not?
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:51:00 -
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1913 DfLo wrote:Sounds pretty good. Have you received your Newsletter? Nope.
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Posted - 2015.02.09 17:00:00 -
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PR0T0TYPE-PH0ENIX PR0JECT-MK-1 wrote:Atiim wrote:This game is not worth 15$/mo. this^ Since the sub is optional you can opt to remain a F2Player. No worries.
Is there anything the sub could offer you that would make you consider it?
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Posted - 2015.02.09 18:27:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:No offense to CCP, but this game isnt worth paying a weekly subscription for. Its buggy, the game is very simple and its complexity doesn't justify constant maintenance fees, releases are inconsistent and (in the past) slow and over the long term seem to be hamstrung by upper management being confused about what they want to happen, memory leaks and poor resource usage still make some maps unplayable for the whole match, and so on, and so on. Help me understand, you want CCP to fix bugs, make the game deeper/more complex, and have more frequent releases by not having a steady, consistent revenue stream.
Got it.
Take the $15 sub option we are talking about at face value. Take away anything that you perceive to be wrong with Dust 514 or it's development. What are some things that would make you consider subbing? Lower sub cost? Is there some interesting feature (that does not grant an in-game damage bonus or similar P2W bonus) that you want?
Or you are 100% against the idea of a sub purely based on the principle? That's perfectly understandable. Some people hate the idea of having subs. In this hypothetical situation there would be a F2P and sub option.
Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:No, I would not pay $15 a month for what is listed in the OP. Okay. What about $10 for what was listed? Can you think of any kind of convenience feature that would make that $15 worth your while?
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.02.09 19:36:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:If the game had free roaming sandbox style game play on planets (with planetary conquest/skirmish fight style activities available as well in a sort of instanced battleground system as in world of warcraft) plus some interesting resource/trading style **** integrated with eve economy that would be cool.
Dust 514 in it's current form: no
Eve: Legion (PC) as some have imagined it with open world elements, an Eve link, and what not: maybe?
Fair enough.
There isn't a wrong answer to this question, folks. Well except "diarrhea". That's a wrong answer.
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Posted - 2015.02.09 19:41:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:I would pay $5 a month. That's $60, or the price of a new game per year.
$15? You out of your gotdamn mind. What if the sub was $15 for 90 days? Same benefits, same end price, just a larger upfront cost. Just trying to think of ways to make sure the price isn't being eaten up by credit card fees.
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Posted - 2015.02.09 19:47:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Unfortunately not. I'd never subscribe to a game that is essentially early access and incomplete. Fair enough.
Just curious, have you made an aurum purchase of any amount in the last 6 months?
Vesta Opalus wrote:Oh thank god, I was just about to type "watery poo", but then what I wrote popped into my head. Whew! Close call!
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Posted - 2015.02.09 19:54:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:No, CCP is too secretive about the future of Dust currently, so no to a subscription svc. However if I had more info regarding Dust 514 future, yes. It's an investment, and I like sound investments :) Some would say that the roadmap is a pretty good indication that Dust is sticking around for a while.
Or do you mean how far away is Legion? I'd like to know more myself.
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Posted - 2015.02.09 21:42:00 -
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bathtubist wrote:Lets not Why? It's an option. You are not forced to subscribe to play. How does it existing hurt you?
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Posted - 2015.02.09 21:48:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:Two simple things: A guarantee that Dust would continue on the ps4 and that development of it would no longer be done by a skeleton crew. Considering that we have heard from the executive producer himself that Legion is not going to the PlayStation 4, I think we can pretty much close that case.
With a steady revenue stream we absolutely could see the development team grow.
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Posted - 2015.02.09 22:00:00 -
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TerranKnight87 wrote:They also said no more content, no respecs and no paid for bpos....
What they say and what happens when people support something enough are two different things. CCP never said, "We will never have another client-side patch." They just said something to the effect of, "In the near future we have no plans of releasing a client-side patch." It was carefully worded so that if they wanted to, they could. Turns out, they did.
Who said "We will never have respecs." I thought the last piece of communication about respecs we got was from GM Archduke saying that if we do get respecs to watch the usual channels (dev blogs, official website, newsletter, etc.).
Anyway, feel free to keep hoping that Legion will roll out on the PS4. It might, but I promise that if it does it will be post-successful Legion (PC) launch.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.02.09 22:16:00 -
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TerranKnight87 wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:TerranKnight87 wrote:They also said no more content, no respecs and no paid for bpos....
What they say and what happens when people support something enough are two different things. CCP never said, "We will never have another client-side patch." They just said something to the effect of, "At least in the near future we have no plans of releasing a client-side patch." It was carefully worded so that if they wanted to, they could. Turns out, they did. Who said "We will never have respecs." I thought the last piece of communication about respecs we got was from GM Archduke saying that if we do get respecs to watch the usual channels (dev blogs, official website, newsletter, etc.). Anyway, feel free to keep hoping that Legion will roll out on the PS4. It might, but I promise that if it does it will be post-successful Legion (PC) launch. I don't really care either way as i have both but i want DUST on the ps4 or at least the pc. And no it was said often that there will never be respecs ever and that our decisions should matter and have consequences. You must be fairly new relatively speaking. They also said that there will never be paid for bpos as it would border on p2w concerning isk. Anyone who has been here since beta can attest that the devs have made changes when enough people have supported it and if you have been here that long then why are you so clueless to this?. Anything pre-Rattati is void, to me at least. The prior devs and EP said all kinds of whacko bullshit on the regular.
Std/mil BPOs being P2W is a good example of that
Either way, we're derailing the thread.
Hit me up in game if you want to continue discussing this particular topic. Otherwise, let's focus on the subscription idea.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.02.09 22:53:00 -
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 General Mosquito wrote:I think people who supported CCP in this enterprise(Beta Vets like myself who put money in while the game was still clearly in development) deserved more than they got.
CCP should have taken that money, that came from committed and enthusiastic players and not prodced the turdburger that was Uprising 1.0 - 1.7.
CCP could have treated those customers with respect before Fanfest when they knew they were going to announce Legion.
But sure, you give them money, that they have done literally nothing to earn, for a product that doesn't even make worst of lists because people assume it got cancelled. That will surely motivate them to make something actually saleable instead of a fap fest for e-tards who can't even figure out how to mine in a 0.9 but want to pretend to be a part of new eden. All I hear is another bittervet upset because of the old EP's bullshit.
Yeah, he sucked. That's why CCP fired him. Since we have CCP Rouge we have less over-promising lies and more patches/hotfixes. Rattati is trying to iterate on this game, but nothing he develops will come to pass if CCP doesn't turn a profit from Dust 514 as of today, February 9th, 2015. I don't give a **** about what you spent way back when in beta. That money doesn't fund Dust 514 right now.
It sucks. I feel for you. If you were here I'd buy you a milkshake.
We have a roadmap. We have community feedback threads. CCP is trying to tread water, but because of some **** that happened before Rouge and Rattati got here you are going to torpedo Dust's chances? You're really hardkore man
Now I'm going to tell you what I told TerranKnight87: Hit me up in game if you want to continue discussing this particular topic. Otherwise, let's focus on the subscription idea.
Spademan wrote:No.
Reason: I'm a cheap bastard. Nothing wrong with being frugal.
Joseph Ridgeson wrote:The value is there . A 30 day pack of boosters in 20k Aurum (10 dollars), 10k Aurum is 5 dollars. I forget how much keys are but auto-claiming is a hell of a feature that would be useful. As I said, I wouldn't do it anymore because I have already put in enough time and money to not need to. A year ago? Probably. Yeah, the more I read the feature list to more I realize this is stuff that benefits new players more than vets. Maybe a few more QoL features? More maximum fittings was suggested earlier. I was thinking that it might be cool to get a lump sum of warbarge components.
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Posted - 2015.02.09 23:10:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:As long as the underlying game is so shoddy, and without a future(You put your faith in CCP to get Legion made, smart people won't), there is no point in having a subscription model discussion. So you disagree with the idea of a subscription model for Dust. That's all you had to say  Thanks for your input. Even negative feedback has purpose. In fact, sometimes its even more valuable.
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