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DootDoot Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 399	Posted - 2015.02.07 02:38:00 - [31] - Quote Mex-0 wrote: Heavies. Played 3 matches of skirm, and in every single one, EVERY SINGLE ONE, there were heavies. I get that you like being a walking tank with a weapon that deals insane dps, but it ruins the game. And for those who protest that it 'takes skill', there's nothing skill about having 1000+ ehp and carrying a portable death machine. Yes, I know that they are part of the game, Yes, They aren't as OP as before, But GODDAMN ARE THEY AND THEIR BLACK AND YELLOW FRIENDS ANNOYING. /rant over This has been discussed and even mentioned by a very active forum poster here. The Biggest impression i ever got about the new player experience was going through and watching her You-tube series on DUST 514. Her first FPS game... From a lady that normally plays Tablet games and WoW, EVE doesn't appeal to her. Exactly who CCP built this game for. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHWpFIAkvC0 <------ Watch it if you truly want to understand what happens time and time again to the new player in DUST 514. This was one of her first games outside of battle academy. It doesn't matter if we nerf this or buff that, It never has in DUST. Every gun and suit has been OP and nerfed in DUST's history now.
trollface dot jpg The Bacon Corporation 246	Posted - 2015.02.07 02:46:00 - [32] - Quote m621 zma wrote: Still not as annoying as your CEO's epeen waving ^ But seriously, 'F' heavies. RIP MAG, you will be missed. MAG Vet ~ Raven
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 6044	Posted - 2015.02.07 02:47:00 - [33] - Quote Ares 514 wrote: Kalante Schiffer wrote: Ares 514 wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I don't see the problem with heavies. The breach AR tears right through them. Nothing ran people off more than Scout 514. Those were the darkest days of Dust. Finally! You're wrong! Lol, tank 514 and tac AR 514 were the darkest days by far! darkest days during tac AR 514? then what do you call it now? Now? Nothing compared to before. Those were dark days indeed. Although I think the tank days were the worst. I hold a special hatred for tanks to this day. I have to agree, it made me rage. But I think the scout epidimic broke people. I think all those blue dots in the hills are still fearful of getting shotgunned in the back, lol I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1113	Posted - 2015.02.07 03:18:00 - [34] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Ares 514 wrote: Kalante Schiffer wrote: Ares 514 wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I don't see the problem with heavies. The breach AR tears right through them. Nothing ran people off more than Scout 514. Those were the darkest days of Dust. Finally! You're wrong! Lol, tank 514 and tac AR 514 were the darkest days by far! darkest days during tac AR 514? then what do you call it now? Now? Nothing compared to before. Those were dark days indeed. Although I think the tank days were the worst. I hold a special hatred for tanks to this day. I have to agree, it made me rage. But I think the scout epidimic broke people. I think all those blue dots in the hills are still fearful of getting shotgunned in the back, lol Weird, I never personally ragged as much as when I watched invincible tanks decimate everything. The worst was CCP refusing to fix the problem. That was the last dev team at their best. They just didn't give a ****. Overlord of Broman
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 825	Posted - 2015.02.07 04:16:00 - [35] - Quote If i would need to say which class is the most annyoing to kill [especially to new player] it would be : sentinel then scout then assault. Sentinels and scouts are rulers in towns though. Loyal to State. > *Gallus in suo sterquilinio plurimum potest - the rooster can do plenty in his own dungheap*
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3174	Posted - 2015.02.07 04:30:00 - [36] - Quote Mex-0 wrote: Played 3 matches of skirm, and in every single one, EVERY SINGLE ONE, there were heavies. This is a terrible way to phrase things. Literally every match you see literally every suit type, there are 32 suit slots open at any given time to fill what, 5 suit types? I mean, I know what you're trying to say, but this just came out all wrong... If you see a match missing an entire suit type, you know something's borked. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 654	Posted - 2015.02.07 04:31:00 - [37] - Quote Rants are cathartic. For the ranter and everyone who listens/reads the rant and giggles.
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 1208	Posted - 2015.02.07 04:35:00 - [38] - Quote Ares 514 wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I don't see the problem with heavies. The breach AR tears right through them. Nothing ran people off more than Scout 514. Those were the darkest days of Dust. Finally! You're wrong! Lol, tank 514 and tac AR 514 were the darkest days by far! Laser 514? AR 514? Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution 1434	Posted - 2015.02.07 05:24:00 - [39] - Quote Skullmiser Vulcansu wrote: In every single matchI've played, there have been assault suits. "Every single one." I don't like playing as a sentinel. I don't think they're that great. If you do, then you should play as one. I can regularly get 30+ kills a game in an untanked Sentinel. The suit is broken. I'm the Rayman of uplinks. 21 day EVE trial.
Petrified Ancient Tree Expert Intervention Caldari State 1	Posted - 2015.02.07 05:39:00 - [40] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Skullmiser Vulcansu wrote: In every single matchI've played, there have been assault suits. "Every single one." I don't like playing as a sentinel. I don't think they're that great. If you do, then you should play as one. I can regularly get 30+ kills a game in an untanked Sentinel. The suit is broken. But against other Sentinels? How do you fare? In other words: is it an issue with the suit or that no one bothered to bring the counter to that suit?

Vicious Minotaur 1973	Posted - 2015.02.07 06:00:00 - [41] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: It's just an option to hide/show the corp on the forums which can be found in the settings tab. Can't imagine why anyone would not want to be publicly associated with the corp they're in though. That's because you have no imagination. Durr hurr, you in moron labe. Lol! Hurr durr, your CEO wave epeen. #pervert lolzercakes! Durr hurr, y u in starter? You're opinion have no meaning becuz u not in cool PC corp! Hurr durr, u in Asian corp, y u photon stomp, coward? Hurr durr, blah blah blahbitty blah. You know, annoying stuff like that? I am a minotaur. a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça+üa+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ë
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution 1435	Posted - 2015.02.07 06:24:00 - [42] - Quote Petrified Ancient Tree wrote: But against other Sentinels? How do you fare? In other words: is it an issue with the suit or that no one bothered to bring the counter to that suit? You say that like the average game doesn't have more than 5 heavies on each side. In case you were wondering, I generally stomp on them. They are easy(in relative terms) to counter, but cheap and low end heavy suits are way more effective than they need to be. I'm the Rayman of uplinks. 21 day EVE trial.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6453	Posted - 2015.02.07 06:54:00 - [43] - Quote 2/10 Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 655	Posted - 2015.02.07 08:19:00 - [44] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: Thumb Green wrote: It's just an option to hide/show the corp on the forums which can be found in the settings tab. Can't imagine why anyone would not want to be publicly associated with the corp they're in though. That's because you have no imagination. Durr hurr, you in moron labe. Lol! Hurr durr, your CEO wave epeen. #pervert lolzercakes! Durr hurr, y u in starter? You're opinion have no meaning becuz u not in cool PC corp! Hurr durr, u in Asian corp, y u photon stomp, coward? Hurr durr, blah blah blahbitty blah. You know, annoying stuff like that? Both and
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 6994	Posted - 2015.02.07 08:52:00 - [45] - Quote As an unrepentant fatty I approve of this message and/or service. Forge gun is best gun. AV
Sequal's Back Intara Direct Action Caldari State 251	Posted - 2015.02.07 09:52:00 - [46] - Quote HMG is OP. If it wasn't, not everyone and their mother would be using it as they do now. Inb4 "I dont use it": you are not a majority AT ALL. Rise? That's what they used to call me. Sequal Rise. That was my name. Now I come Back to you, at the turn of the tide.
Bone Doc Commando Perkone Caldari State 16	Posted - 2015.02.07 10:41:00 - [47] - Quote Newplayer here, I dont stick around because of all the one sided matches and scanners but thats just me.
4lbert Wesker WESKER S.T.A.R.S 56	Posted - 2015.02.07 11:12:00 - [48] - Quote Heavies bring balance in fighting proto faggots because STD lolfit heavy can take out proto ****** who reach 20/0 in pubs much easier than player with STD RR/SCR/AR fit.Heavies do jobs that other players can't do.Anyone who is ranting against heavies is frustrated because he can't protostomp pubs like he planed to. Public skirmish = camping games
xavier zor Rogue Instincts 597	Posted - 2015.02.07 11:14:00 - [49] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: I don't see the problem with heavies. The breach AR tears right through them. Nothing ran people off more than Scout 514. Those were the darkest days of Dust. oh lol, i remember that...then came the eWar and cloak nerf. passive scans still to this day do not exist amongst scout suits :( looking for PC corporation also looking for lonely heavies to knife >:) heavies looking for me
JONAHBENHUR WarRavens Capital Punishment. 86	Posted - 2015.02.07 11:43:00 - [50] - Quote i find the biggest problem for them to be cry baby quiters that cant take a few deaths. also a slew of other reasons like lack of a brain, mic and desire to learn dont feel like youtubing tips like to eat poop so yeah lots of reasons. "To be a man you must have honor, "HONOR AND A PENIS !!" -shinoske noharu

Slave of MORTE Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 262	Posted - 2015.02.07 12:12:00 - [51] - Quote Mex-0 wrote: Heavies. Played 3 matches of skirm, and in every single one, EVERY SINGLE ONE, there were heavies. I get that you like being a walking tank with a weapon that deals insane dps, but it ruins the game. And for those who protest that it 'takes skill', there's nothing skill about having 1000+ ehp and carrying a portable death machine. Yes, I know that they are part of the game, Yes, They aren't as OP as before, But GODDAMN ARE THEY AND THEIR BLACK AND YELLOW FRIENDS ANNOYING. /rant over they already nerfed HMG it's in a good place ..heavies are not really op get good Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
WeapondigitX V7 The Exemplars RISE of LEGION 218	Posted - 2015.02.07 13:27:00 - [52] - Quote Use 1 or 2 proto dampeners on assaults with shotguns and brick tank and shoot the logi in back then the heavy. It can be hard to reach them if they are surrounded by enemy red berries. Best to use standard frames. You will need 100% accuracy as they take a little patience and time to kill. But Ive done it so many times.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 6060	Posted - 2015.02.07 13:29:00 - [53] - Quote No need to call out specific playstyles. It's because of the current playerbase in general. We don't go easy on them. I'm not against it, but neither am I for holding their hands. If they are willing to learn, I am willing to teach. They may also struggle on their own if they so choose. Anywho, matchmaking is nonexistent so blame that, instead.
WeapondigitX V7 The Exemplars RISE of LEGION 218	Posted - 2015.02.07 13:31:00 - [54] - Quote Bone Doc wrote: Newplayer here, I dont stick around because of all the one sided matches and scanners but thats just me. You not alone when concerning 1 sided matches. Ironically I love being on the losing side. More players for me to destroy for the amarr empire. I get bored in public areas though. "suicide there is strictly forbidden."
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1860	Posted - 2015.02.07 13:41:00 - [55] - Quote New players leave Dust because they can't handle Dust, most of the time. They can't handle the steep learning curve (or rather having to skill up). They can't handle so many options (they end up making ****-poor decisions and claim it's the game) They can't handle the idea that it's better to get to know people and run squads than to play solo all the time. A lot of people play online shooters just to relax and NOT socialize. Many of the new players here don't realize Dust is a very social game... damn near political at times too for just a lobby shooter. They can't handle that this isn't simply a run and gun game with 1-3 shot kills. I've heard the TTK is lower than before but I'm betting still not to CoD levels. They'll also be off put my the graphics, current limitations as just a lobby shooter (if they thought it was something bigger), and bugs. :V Go ahead and ask some newbie why they left. I guarantee it'll be for the reasons I just stated. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." http://royventus.tumblr.com
Raiden246 State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 22	Posted - 2015.02.07 14:05:00 - [56] - Quote DootDoot wrote: This has been discussed and even mentioned by a very active forum poster here. The Biggest impression i ever got about the new player experience was going through and watching her You-tube series on DUST 514. Her first FPS game... From a lady that normally plays Tablet games and WoW, EVE doesn't appeal to her. Exactly who CCP built this game for. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHWpFIAkvC0 <------ Watch it if you truly want to understand what happens time and time again to the new player in DUST 514. This was one of her first games outside of battle academy. She was loving the game until that point. That clip makes me sad watching it every time... You should feel ashamed CCP. It doesn't matter if we nerf this or buff that, It never has in DUST. Every gun and suit has been OP and nerfed in DUST's history now. In the scenario of this person, she just sucked at the game. Period. She stood still while shooting, tried to use the AR outside of its effective range, and seemed to be annoyed by the fact that 5-7 shots weren't killing the enemies. She would also never use cover, and didn't take opportunities to finish people off who were low on health. "You should feel ashamed CCP" For what? Not making the game Call of Duty in the future? You act as if that battle was so amazingly difficult, no, those enemies were disorganized, and looked very easy to flank. If she thinks that's bad, somebody should bring her back just to play against Nyain San in Ambush. I wish public matches were as easy as that one today.
manboar thunder fist Dead Man's Game RUST415 362	Posted - 2015.02.07 14:08:00 - [57] - Quote No the sole reason why new players leave dust is G.C.O.G It is a mysterious cult that can be found in 'shadow chat' Rumor has it the mysterious patron: nameless III only has a 2.6 k/d despite running ambush 24/7 with 4 logis and his apprentice, davidcollins "If there is a strafe nerf in this game, remove hit detection"- manboar 2014
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 2064	Posted - 2015.02.07 17:43:00 - [58] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: Thumb Green wrote: It's just an option to hide/show the corp on the forums which can be found in the settings tab. Can't imagine why anyone would not want to be publicly associated with the corp they're in though. That's because you have no imagination. Durr hurr, you in moron labe. Lol! Hurr durr, your CEO wave epeen. #pervert lolzercakes! Durr hurr, y u in starter? You're opinion have no meaning becuz u not in cool PC corp! Hurr durr, u in Asian corp, y u photon stomp, coward? Hurr durr, blah blah blahbitty blah. You know, annoying stuff like that? Don't have to imagine any of those, seen them already tossed around the forums a few times; but all I have to say to that is be an adult and ignore it or even roll with it. Ain't any sense in being in a corp if you're going try to hide that you are in it cause there's something wrong when you can't fly your banner with pride. Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty hipster! [RYJC]
Michael Arck 6168	Posted - 2015.02.07 17:48:00 - [59] - Quote Or that their wallets can't keep up. Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
Alaika Arbosa Minmatar Republic 2471	Posted - 2015.02.07 17:54:00 - [60] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Copharus Arkana wrote: Sometimes I can't believe you people. Its so clear that heavys are an imbalance, even this guy sees that they are a problem. Yet everyone leans so heavily on this scrubby crutch that you all are to stubborn to admit that heavys need to go. Sorry, nope. Logi/Assault with a RR/CR...bbbrrrrp, I'm gone. Dead. Ex-parrot. Heavy with an HMG? "Yo homes, smell ya later!" What makes you the Fresh Prince of Manus Pea--er Mesa? We the pc players make up a huge majority of active players. --Roman837 ^^ROFLMAO OMG I need to catch my breath now..



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