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bathtubist wrote:

TerranKnight87 wrote:

I couldn't care any less about legion really and with all the new developments in dust, i think the smart move would be to start work on moving dust to the ps4 where it can grow even if it takes a while, even if it means noone can play for a year or more, at least the game will be on a platform where it can grow properly.

Or at least begin work on a ps4 move within the next 2 years maybe.

If the game is running on the crummy ps3 specs we have then imagine how great it could be on tthe ps4. ps4's in about 2 years will also be pretty damn cheap, they already are really as it is now.

I play all the next gen games and dust still offers a lot of unique things even though the next gen games have better graphics and higher player counts. I am buying a new ps3 to play dust again next month myself after the one i had burnt out (even after cleaning and defregging each month so F you sony for that) just for dust.

http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust This link shows that the player count if going down as you can see in the six month and year graphs. This is because people are investing in a game that is stuck on a ps3 i believe, that or their ps3's burnt out like mine.

There is a whole game here so please do the right thing and move it to the ps4 asap where it can grow and look better. I'll be playig legion but it doesn't look ike it will bee much like dust other than the weapons and it being an fps. Suits are all going to be bpos the last i heard so this means that it's connection to eve is going to be fairly limited right off the bat but i could be wrong.

I've seen and heard it all from the 'it wont happen crowd' so save it.

[INSERT HYPE ABOUT HOW IT WILL HAPPEN HERE]

Show your support people, being a negative nancy about it will not help. Forget the strongboxes as well for a sec please because they do not mean jack sht in the grand scheme of things.

Yeah I would be hype for the ps4 to buy

Oh wait pay to play required
its been fun ridin with you playstation now to move to Pc

"Tech you're in a max suit, you have 15 mins to unfk yourself or you can fk off." - Stumpycat C/O of Goon Brigade.

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Commander Noctus Gallente Loyalist 203	Posted - 2015.02.06 17:56:00 - [31] - Quote It won't happen, nor do I want it to happen, despite having both a PS4 and a pretty spiffy PC. If Legion (more like Le-gone, heheheh...eeehh) is going to be the next step, I'd rather it be on the platform CCP actually knows how to work with and knows will last for...ever. At least until VR. Gallente User since Jan. 28th, 2013. Touched on every Gallente role since.
TerranKnight87 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 143	Posted - 2015.02.08 14:41:00 - [32] - Quote Commander Noctus wrote: It won't happen, nor do I want it to happen, despite having both a PS4 and a pretty spiffy PC. If Legion (more like Le-gone, heheheh...eeehh) is going to be the next step, I'd rather it be on the platform CCP actually knows how to work with and knows will last for...ever. At least until VR. It will happen and i want it to happen. Valid as fk mate lol. This is TechMechMeds tanker. Redeployside - You are just in time for minimal immersion edition of ps2. Enjoy.
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 5263	Posted - 2015.02.08 15:17:00 - [33] - Quote I only have 2 games on my Ps3; Dust & Destiny, guess which one I regret spending money on? (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
TerranKnight87 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 143	Posted - 2015.02.08 15:20:00 - [34] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: I only have 2 games on my Ps3; Dust & Destiny, guess which one I regret spending money on? Hehe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzopWRXK_r4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gwQ2S1xSz0 This is TechMechMeds tanker. Redeployside - You are just in time for minimal immersion edition of ps2. Enjoy.
TerranKnight87 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 147	Posted - 2015.02.09 18:36:00 - [35] - Quote Bump. This is TechMechMeds tanker. Redeployside - You are just in time for minimal immersion edition of ps2. Enjoy.
TerranKnight87 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 147	Posted - 2015.02.09 22:16:00 - [36] - Quote Bump and ting. This is TechMechMeds tanker. Redeployside - You are just in time for minimal immersion edition of ps2. Enjoy.
JDEZ09 Dark Side Alliance 83	Posted - 2015.02.10 04:58:00 - [37] - Quote TerranKnight87 wrote: I couldn't care any less about legion really and with all the new developments in dust, i think the smart move would be to start work on moving dust to the ps4 where it can grow even if it takes a while, even if it means noone can play for a year or more, at least the game will be on a platform where it can grow properly. Or at least begin work on a ps4 move within the next 2 years maybe. If the game is running on the crummy ps3 specs we have then imagine how great it could be on tthe ps4. ps4's in about 2 years will also be pretty damn cheap, they already are really as it is now. I play all the next gen games and dust still offers a lot of unique things even though the next gen games have better graphics and higher player counts. I am buying a new ps3 to play dust again next month myself after the one i had burnt out (even after cleaning and defregging each month so F you sony for that) just for dust. http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust This link shows that the player count if going down as you can see in the six month and year graphs. This is because people are investing in a game that is stuck on a ps3 i believe, that or their ps3's burnt out like mine. There is a whole game here so please do the right thing and move it to the ps4 asap where it can grow and look better. I'll be playig legion but it doesn't look ike it will bee much like dust other than the weapons and it being an fps. Suits are all going to be bpos the last i heard so this means that it's connection to eve is going to be fairly limited right off the bat but i could be wrong. I've seen and heard it all from the 'it wont happen crowd' so save it. [INSERT HYPE ABOUT HOW IT WILL HAPPEN HERE] Show your support people, being a negative nancy about it will not help. Forget the strongboxes as well for a sec please because they do not mean jack sht in the grand scheme of things. CCP probably didnt learn from last years debacle that was fanfest. Give the DUST514 community the fanfest they deserve CCP! The one where at least DUST goes to PS4. With 60 frames per second ;) Either that or its just going to be this all over again lmao!! ****** finds out that Eve: Legion won't come to PS4 anytime soon.: http://youtu.be/hTgalXMt-K0
Godin Thekiller The Corporate Raiders 2856	Posted - 2015.02.10 06:33:00 - [38] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: It would be easier for CCP for to move over Legion to the PS4 than Dust. The reason being is that developing for the PS3 is much less similar to the PS4 than developing for the PC is to the PS4. I am sure someone with more detailed knowledge could explain better. Legion is Dust 2.0................ click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
kieran foxy TRUE SAVAGES Learning Alliance 1	Posted - 2015.02.10 08:18:00 - [39] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: It can cost you a lot of money to get hold of a good gaming PC. For people who don't want to bother choosing what PC to buy, simply walking into a store and grabbing a PS4 box is a gigantic save of time. Should also be noted that you can lay back in your sofa and play on the PS4, rather than having to sit at a desk playing on PC, which causes back problems... I can clearly say that theres a GOOD difference between pc and console access. so i agree with this. My semi decent laptop was -ú400 and a ps4 is about -ú250 now. winner? Console :/ I will find you, And i will kill you. it doesn't matter who you are or what you have, I'm coming for you! pro gallmando
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 4010	Posted - 2015.02.10 09:51:00 - [40] - Quote Honestly, I think the best chance for this is if they were already working on porting to the PS4 before everything went dark. Talking about when/if it might release on the PS4 was a thing before the PS4 was out. Ideally they would've already been trying it out prior to the console launch. If they put in the time prior to Red Fanfest (after all, they apparently worked on a PC demo while being "laser-focused" on PS3), then that could possibly, maybe, mean they have a half-finished port of Dust to PS4 laying about in the offices. As to the engine in particular, Dust is based on Unreal Engine 3, which has some native support on the PS3. Other UE3 games have been released on the PS4 (which will actually support the newer UE4), some at the same time as the PS3 (Injustice: Gods Among Us released on both, for example). So, I don't think it's some sort of insurmountable hurdle from a tech/porting perspective. Worth mentioning perhaps that CCP does have access to Unreal Engine 4 anyway, as EVE:Valkyrie is supposedly using it. The Dren Swarm fiasco.

Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 661	Posted - 2015.02.10 09:56:00 - [41] - Quote IGÇÖm behind a PC/mac the whole day at work, and often in evenings. So if i want to play a game you better believe iGÇÖm going to be doing it with a controller in my mitts, smeared out across the couch in my party suit. so yes, ps4 please. GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback. 4553	Posted - 2015.02.10 10:01:00 - [42] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: PS3 production stops in March next year... Yes, time to get busy with the PS4. The world is advancing, don't let Dust 514 fall behind. So the logical conclusion is to make it on another console that in eight years will be replaced (even though the hardware on it is already out-dated) and we'll be right back in the same situation? Now that consoles have transitioned to x86 this isn't reall that big of a deal. The upgrade cycle from CCP's standpoint would basically be the same as dealing with normal advances in computers, gpus, etc. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 920	Posted - 2015.02.11 18:37:00 - [43] - Quote Both Consoles! Who cares what some sniper has to say
TerranKnight87 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 161	Posted - 2015.02.11 18:57:00 - [44] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: Both Consoles! Tell your friends so we can get more support for this please. "Tech you're in a max suit, you have 15 mins to unfk yourself or you can fk off." - Stumpycat C/O of Goon Brigade.
bathtubist TRUE SAVAGES Learning Alliance 43	Posted - 2015.02.11 22:19:00 - [45] - Quote TerranKnight87 wrote: I couldn't care any less about legion really and with all the new developments in dust, i think the smart move would be to start work on moving dust to the ps4 where it can grow even if it takes a while, even if it means noone can play for a year or more, at least the game will be on a platform where it can grow properly. Or at least begin work on a ps4 move within the next 2 years maybe. If the game is running on the crummy ps3 specs we have then imagine how great it could be on tthe ps4. ps4's in about 2 years will also be pretty damn cheap, they already are really as it is now. I play all the next gen games and dust still offers a lot of unique things even though the next gen games have better graphics and higher player counts. I am buying a new ps3 to play dust again next month myself after the one i had burnt out (even after cleaning and defregging each month so F you sony for that) just for dust. http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust This link shows that the player count if going down as you can see in the six month and year graphs. This is because people are investing in a game that is stuck on a ps3 i believe, that or their ps3's burnt out like mine. There is a whole game here so please do the right thing and move it to the ps4 asap where it can grow and look better. I'll be playig legion but it doesn't look ike it will bee much like dust other than the weapons and it being an fps. Suits are all going to be bpos the last i heard so this means that it's connection to eve is going to be fairly limited right off the bat but i could be wrong. I've seen and heard it all from the 'it wont happen crowd' so save it. [INSERT HYPE ABOUT HOW IT WILL HAPPEN HERE] Show your support people, being a negative nancy about it will not help. Forget the strongboxes as well for a sec please because they do not mean jack sht in the grand scheme of things. Yeah I would be hype for the ps4 to buy Oh wait pay to play required its been fun ridin with you playstation now to move to Pc
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 172	Posted - 2015.02.11 22:52:00 - [46] - Quote Peter Hanther wrote: TerranKnight87 wrote: Peter Hanther wrote: TerranKnight87 wrote: Peter Hanther wrote: I highly doubt they will bring it over to the PS4, even if I would love them forever if they did. The framerate boost on its own would make Dust that much more playable Maybe if people showed their support for a Ps4 version then they'd consider it. They seem to be doing things now when people show support for it enough. It's going to be doubtful so long as people simply keep doubting it and not actually supporting the idea. They only really care if you do a burn Jita. Anyone else does not matter. That is why I left the Eve side of things True but we're dealing with a different dev team here. Think of everything that was never going to happen that has happened......... Paid respecs for one and paid for bpos. New maps after being told there won't be anymore content updates. I can't think of anything else at the mo. Oh I was not talking about the Dust Devs, I meant CCP as a whole. See Rattatai most likely does NOT have the pull to get CCP to buy the dev kits, licensing rights, and funds to spend time porting the engine over and then testing it. He would have to convince his bosses to allow that. The same ones that said they were killing Dust off for Legion- A pc exclusive. They will also have to spend some money advertising and get a different team to work on the ps4 since it is much different than the ps3; it would cost a lot of money to do all that and a lot of time they probably can't afford. The team is small so they would would have to take dev time from the team to work on it, so Dust 514 won't get any updates for awhile. If they aren't doing it now or have no plans for a port, then its not happening. I don't think CCP has the confidence or the care to port it over. If they wanted they would have done so or planning on doing it soon. Getting some responses on a thread is very unlikely to change a big decision like that .
TerranKnight87 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 162	Posted - 2015.02.11 22:55:00 - [47] - Quote bathtubist wrote: TerranKnight87 wrote: I couldn't care any less about legion really and with all the new developments in dust, i think the smart move would be to start work on moving dust to the ps4 where it can grow even if it takes a while, even if it means noone can play for a year or more, at least the game will be on a platform where it can grow properly. Or at least begin work on a ps4 move within the next 2 years maybe. If the game is running on the crummy ps3 specs we have then imagine how great it could be on tthe ps4. ps4's in about 2 years will also be pretty damn cheap, they already are really as it is now. I play all the next gen games and dust still offers a lot of unique things even though the next gen games have better graphics and higher player counts. I am buying a new ps3 to play dust again next month myself after the one i had burnt out (even after cleaning and defregging each month so F you sony for that) just for dust. http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust This link shows that the player count if going down as you can see in the six month and year graphs. This is because people are investing in a game that is stuck on a ps3 i believe, that or their ps3's burnt out like mine. There is a whole game here so please do the right thing and move it to the ps4 asap where it can grow and look better. I'll be playig legion but it doesn't look ike it will bee much like dust other than the weapons and it being an fps. Suits are all going to be bpos the last i heard so this means that it's connection to eve is going to be fairly limited right off the bat but i could be wrong. I've seen and heard it all from the 'it wont happen crowd' so save it. [INSERT HYPE ABOUT HOW IT WILL HAPPEN HERE] Show your support people, being a negative nancy about it will not help. Forget the strongboxes as well for a sec please because they do not mean jack sht in the grand scheme of things. Yeah I would be hype for the ps4 to buy Oh wait pay to play required its been fun ridin with you playstation now to move to Pc Play to play?, no actually. "Tech you're in a max suit, you have 15 mins to unfk yourself or you can fk off." - Stumpycat C/O of Goon Brigade.
TerranKnight87 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 162	Posted - 2015.02.11 22:59:00 - [48] - Quote @ Avinash Ah but we can try and do they need to spend on advertising?, they barely advertised dust at all. The forums are a good place to try and change anything. Sources - The forums and how much they have paid attention (even if they have fked things up). And actually the ps4 is much more familiar with them than the ps3's cell cpu and limited crappy VRAM which is as measly as it's RAM......256lolmb. "Tech you're in a max suit, you have 15 mins to unfk yourself or you can fk off." - Stumpycat C/O of Goon Brigade.
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet 155	Posted - 2015.02.12 04:14:00 - [49] - Quote Peter Hanther wrote: I highly doubt they will bring it over to the PS4, even if I would love them forever if they did. The framerate boost on its own would make Dust that much more playable Just imagine how smooth the Gallente research facility would run??
TerranKnight87 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 174	Posted - 2015.02.13 17:25:00 - [50] - Quote Bump. "Tech you're in a max suit, you have 15 mins to unfk yourself or you can fk off." - Stumpycat C/O of Goon Brigade.

TerranKnight87 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 174	Posted - 2015.02.13 17:26:00 - [51] - Quote TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: Peter Hanther wrote: I highly doubt they will bring it over to the PS4, even if I would love them forever if they did. The framerate boost on its own would make Dust that much more playable Just imagine how smooth the Gallente research facility would run?? Just imagine everything smoother, better graphics, higher player counts and more depth that the original scope of dust had. We could have all that. "Tech you're in a max suit, you have 15 mins to unfk yourself or you can fk off." - Stumpycat C/O of Goon Brigade.
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8707	Posted - 2015.02.13 21:47:00 - [52] - Quote TerranKnight87 wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: PS3 production stops in March next year... Yes, time to get busy with the PS4. The world is advancing, don't let Dust 514 fall behind. So the logical conclusion is to make it on another console that in eight years will be replaced (even though the hardware on it is already out-dated) and we'll be right back in the same situation? By that logic the console industry should shut down and everything should be on pc. Console is always outdated but it is what it is, it's not going anywhere (Lol true on many levels). Not at all... They're not making a game that's entire premise is long-term survivability with a sandbox entirely formed by player decisions. Franchises make sequels, they don't remake an entire game - at least not something as in depth as Eve Online or Dust 514. HD Remaster? Sure. You're just giving new graphics to a game that already exists and they are usually single player. One does not simply "HD Remaster" Dust 514, all the stats and progression of each player, the territories owned by said players, and the impact they've made on the sandbox. PC is the only place that this kind of game can survive long-term. You can ask the playerbase to shell out $500 every few years in either case... but asking for millions of dollars to remake the game to stay up to date for consoles? Different story. Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department? *Founder of AIV*
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 942	Posted - 2015.02.14 00:11:00 - [53] - Quote Release for both consoles! If not possible then PS4 exclusive. Biggest player base. Legion on PC would be good, but would remain and underground niche title. Who cares what some sniper has to say. CCP, let's push for the license of Dust/Legion on both current Gen consoles!
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 1017	Posted - 2015.02.14 07:51:00 - [54] - Quote Legion would crash and burn faster on the PC than it being ported to the PS4. Changes to Damage mods!
KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1030	Posted - 2015.02.14 11:11:00 - [55] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: PS3 production stops in March next year... Yes, time to get busy with the PS4. The world is advancing, don't let Dust 514 fall behind. So the logical conclusion is to make it on another console that in eight years will be replaced (even though the hardware on it is already out-dated) and we'll be right back in the same situation? Now that consoles have transitioned to x86 this isn't reall that big of a deal. The upgrade cycle from CCP's standpoint would basically be the same as dealing with normal advances in computers, gpus, etc. Even if the PS4 is x86, console makers still hyper-optimize their development kits for the particular hardware. Developers also in turn optimize with their own tweaks based on hardware features and idiosyncrasies. This is why the PS4 can outperform a similar spec PC. The PC is running a general purpose OS, and the games are (mostly) programmed against generic frameworks. That genericness provides compatibility at the cost of computational overhead. If the PS3 were x86 based, they probably would've used a 32 bit dual core processor since that's what was affordable back then, and they might've used an nvidia chip for graphics. Now the cheap processors are 64 bit, and 8 cores, and they come with a free ATI CPU. Sony would've had to redo their development kit even if the PS3 were x86 based. Now what do you think x86 CPUs will look like in 5-6 years? What will be out when it comes time to design the PS5? It just becomes easier to make a new "platform" every console generation rather than trying to transcend multiple generations of hardware, otherwise you'll have to start adopting the generic PC approach, and incur those performance costs. Even then, there are market forces preventing your scenario from happening. Why doesn't XboxOne have backwards compatibility with the Original Xbox? They're both x86 after all. Well, in addition to any technical hurdles, console makers are addicted from the revenue of making people re-buy their old games on the "new" platform. In regards to CCP, they'd probably benefit more from the familiar, slow-paced, long-lived PC development cycle, then to ever risk being stranded on a dead platform ever again. Also, I'm certain that the PSN patch release process has been a thorn in CCP's side since they launched Dust. Developing for a console makes you someone's *****, and I'd be surprised if they're not tired of it. BAN ADVANCED GEAR FROM PUBS \| Mass Driver Advocate
KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1030	Posted - 2015.02.14 11:12:00 - [56] - Quote The future of this game is dependent on expanding beyond the PS3/PS4. PC is the next step to ensure the long term health of this game. Almost every one of you people posting on these forums is a $150 graphics card away from having a rig capable of playing UE3/4 based games. Hell, many of you probably don't even need an upgrade, you can just dial the graphics down to the current PS3 fidelity and start playing. So please, stop with the crying. BAN ADVANCED GEAR FROM PUBS \| Mass Driver Advocate
TerranKnight87 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 179	Posted - 2015.02.14 15:29:00 - [57] - Quote KA24DERT wrote: The future of this game is dependent on expanding beyond the PS3/PS4. PC is the next step to ensure the long term health of this game. Almost every one of you people posting on these forums is a $150 graphics card away from having a rig capable of playing UE3/4 based games. Hell, many of you probably don't even need an upgrade, you can just dial the graphics down to the current PS3 fidelity and start playing. So please, stop with the crying. Crying about people crying. 10/10 I have a decent rig as well but this game would be pretty sht on pc where heavies turn in the blink of an eye with their hmg. Imagine the amount of nerf threads. "Tech you're in a max suit, you have 15 mins to unfk yourself or you can fk off." - Stumpycat C/O of Goon Brigade.
ZDub 303 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 3375	Posted - 2015.02.14 15:51:00 - [58] - Quote Planetside 2 is pretty fun on PC, more fun than I ever had playing Dust on PS3. With Daybreak imploding they are poised to capture a pretty solid market on PC. However... imo they should just disconnect Dust 514 from tranquility and let it be non-canon to the universe and IP. Start Legion on PC as the connected version of planetary combat and move Dust 514 to the PS4. In this way there can still exist a sci fi shooter with a New Eden theme and they can do whatever they want with the game without worrying about its impact on EVE. Removing roadblocks like trading and manufacturing should be relatively simple and the isolated code base should mean an easier time working on Dust. I don't think EVE players will be pleased if Legion doesn't make it to the PC. I know that most people on here don't care what the greater EVE population thinks but CCP does and should. I no longer believe in the vision that a set coupled games affecting the outcome of each other should exist on hardware that cannot play both games. If the PS4 is not the main platform for EVE I don't believe it should be the main platform for Legion either.
gauntlet44 LbowDeep Heaven84 Devils General Tso's Alliance 206	Posted - 2015.02.14 17:43:00 - [59] - Quote any game that you own a digital copy of on your ps3, can be played on the ps4 thru playstation now. how does one go about getting in on that also play as Strangeland Stranger (Gal), Gauntlett5487 (Cal), and Larlac Theest (Min)
KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1032	Posted - 2015.02.14 19:51:00 - [60] - Quote TerranKnight87 wrote: KA24DERT wrote: The future of this game is dependent on expanding beyond the PS3/PS4. PC is the next step to ensure the long term health of this game. Almost every one of you people posting on these forums is a $150 graphics card away from having a rig capable of playing UE3/4 based games. Hell, many of you probably don't even need an upgrade, you can just dial the graphics down to the current PS3 fidelity and start playing. So please, stop with the crying. Crying about people crying. 10/10 I have a decent rig as well but this game would be pretty sht on pc where heavies turn in the blink of an eye with their hmg. Imagine the amount of nerf threads. I'll take an insta-360 Heavy over a Heavy with AA any day. The Team Fortress series has been dealing with your dreaded Heavy scourge for almost 20 years, and it's doing just fine. BAN ADVANCED GEAR FROM PUBS \| Mass Driver Advocate



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