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Templar XIII Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 45	Posted - 2015.01.26 23:52:00 - [1] - Quote CCP, please open up the Apex suits for militia and standard modules, so we can crap-fit them ourselves. Go for the item metas, which way you can exclude potential aurum advanced modules use (starting meta 3) as well as Factional Store items of same quality. Allow meta 0-2 only. [1]: more FW action, as suits get more sought after [2]: more Aurum module BPO sales [3]: Profit!
Alex-ZX Valor Coalition Red Whines. 198	Posted - 2015.01.27 00:23:00 - [2] - Quote The can do that just by reducing CPU and PG till its very limits. I mean just the necessary for a new player to use, and everything else is our mistake, not supposed veterans. He already said that he will check it. Alex's modified ZX-030 HMG Luis' modified VC-107 CR Alex's modified VC-107 SMG *Owner of this beasts*
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1909	Posted - 2015.01.27 01:44:00 - [3] - Quote Alex-ZX wrote: The can do that just by reducing CPU and PG till its very limits. I mean just the necessary for a new player to use, and everything else is our mistake, not supposed veterans. He already said that he will check it. I think this would lead to stacking a couple of pg/cpu mods and loading out proto weapon + damage mods. I have not messed with the numbers to see if this would be possible it just crossed my mind as soon as I heard the idea of pg/cpu limitations so i figured I would throw it out there.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 15821	Posted - 2015.01.27 03:01:00 - [4] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Alex-ZX wrote: The can do that just by reducing CPU and PG till its very limits. I mean just the necessary for a new player to use, and everything else is our mistake, not supposed veterans. He already said that he will check it. I think this would lead to stacking a couple of pg/cpu mods and loading out proto weapon + damage mods. I have not messed with the numbers to see if this would be possible it just crossed my mind as soon as I heard the idea of pg/cpu limitations so i figured I would throw it out there. big thanks for that, I had not realized that exploit possibility. Will tread lightly. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

SirManBoy Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 816	Posted - 2015.01.27 03:09:00 - [5] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Alex-ZX wrote: The can do that just by reducing CPU and PG till its very limits. I mean just the necessary for a new player to use, and everything else is our mistake, not supposed veterans. He already said that he will check it. I think this would lead to stacking a couple of pg/cpu mods and loading out proto weapon + damage mods. I have not messed with the numbers to see if this would be possible it just crossed my mind as soon as I heard the idea of pg/cpu limitations so i figured I would throw it out there. big thanks for that, I had not realized that exploit possibility. Will tread lightly. Broken record mode initialized. Assuming it is technically possible, consider making BPOs the only customizable items that can be fitted on an APEX suit. If it's not a BPO, then it can't replace the default weapons and mods on the suit. It would be great for the players and great for revenue.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1909	Posted - 2015.01.27 03:13:00 - [6] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Alex-ZX wrote: The can do that just by reducing CPU and PG till its very limits. I mean just the necessary for a new player to use, and everything else is our mistake, not supposed veterans. He already said that he will check it. I think this would lead to stacking a couple of pg/cpu mods and loading out proto weapon + damage mods. I have not messed with the numbers to see if this would be possible it just crossed my mind as soon as I heard the idea of pg/cpu limitations so i figured I would throw it out there. big thanks for that, I had not realized that exploit possibility. Will tread lightly. It may be a lot more work but I think introducing variations of each item that are free and locked to only fitting on these suits would be the best bet. You could even expand on this and lock certain slots to racial specific items to keep the idea of them intact. An Imperial ScR blueprint and Imperial AScR blueprint that can only be fitted on any of the imperial blueprints for example would be awesome. This would also take the racial idea to a new level as it would force people to build fittings specific to the race suit they have.
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries 780	Posted - 2015.01.27 03:18:00 - [7] - Quote id love to arrange my basic mods freely. LogicGäó
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 1435	Posted - 2015.01.27 03:23:00 - [8] - Quote SirManBoy wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Alex-ZX wrote: The can do that just by reducing CPU and PG till its very limits. I mean just the necessary for a new player to use, and everything else is our mistake, not supposed veterans. He already said that he will check it. I think this would lead to stacking a couple of pg/cpu mods and loading out proto weapon + damage mods. I have not messed with the numbers to see if this would be possible it just crossed my mind as soon as I heard the idea of pg/cpu limitations so i figured I would throw it out there. big thanks for that, I had not realized that exploit possibility. Will tread lightly. Broken record mode initialized. Assuming it is technically possible, consider making BPOs the only customizable items that can be fitted on an APEX suit. If it's not a BPO, then it can't replace the default weapons and mods on the suit. It would be great for the players and great for revenue. Aren't there still BPO PG and CPU modules? Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1909	Posted - 2015.01.27 03:24:00 - [9] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: SirManBoy wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Alex-ZX wrote: The can do that just by reducing CPU and PG till its very limits. I mean just the necessary for a new player to use, and everything else is our mistake, not supposed veterans. He already said that he will check it. I think this would lead to stacking a couple of pg/cpu mods and loading out proto weapon + damage mods. I have not messed with the numbers to see if this would be possible it just crossed my mind as soon as I heard the idea of pg/cpu limitations so i figured I would throw it out there. big thanks for that, I had not realized that exploit possibility. Will tread lightly. Broken record mode initialized. Assuming it is technically possible, consider making BPOs the only customizable items that can be fitted on an APEX suit. If it's not a BPO, then it can't replace the default weapons and mods on the suit. It would be great for the players and great for revenue. Aren't there still BPO PG and CPU modules? Yes but there are no BPO proto weapons or damage mods.
Alena Ventrallis Intara Direct Action Caldari State 2493	Posted - 2015.01.27 03:29:00 - [10] - Quote Couldn't Rattati make BPOs that only work on APEX suits, that come with it when you buy one? Like have them only show up when editing an APEX suit. Listen to my muscle memory Contemplate what I've been clinging to Forty-six and two ahead of me

deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1910	Posted - 2015.01.27 03:31:00 - [11] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Couldn't Rattati make BPOs that only work on APEX suits, that come with it when you buy one? Like have them only show up when editing an APEX suit. I think the problem there becomes locking them to the APEX/Faction suit so that everyone is not running around with regular suits fully stacked with BPO gear.
SirManBoy Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 818	Posted - 2015.01.27 03:40:00 - [12] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: Aren't there still BPO PG and CPU modules? Yes but there are no BPO proto weapons or damage mods. Bingo!
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 1435	Posted - 2015.01.27 03:54:00 - [13] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: SirManBoy wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: deezy dabest wrote: I think this would lead to stacking a couple of pg/cpu mods and loading out proto weapon + damage mods. I have not messed with the numbers to see if this would be possible it just crossed my mind as soon as I heard the idea of pg/cpu limitations so i figured I would throw it out there. big thanks for that, I had not realized that exploit possibility. Will tread lightly. Broken record mode initialized. Assuming it is technically possible, consider making BPOs the only customizable items that can be fitted on an APEX suit. If it's not a BPO, then it can't replace the default weapons and mods on the suit. It would be great for the players and great for revenue. Aren't there still BPO PG and CPU modules? Yes but there are no BPO proto weapons or damage mods. Should've though of this, oops Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
NINEinch WEAPON WarRavens Capital Punishment. 46	Posted - 2015.01.27 04:18:00 - [14] - Quote SirManBoy wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Alex-ZX wrote: The can do that just by reducing CPU and PG till its very limits. I mean just the necessary for a new player to use, and everything else is our mistake, not supposed veterans. He already said that he will check it. I think this would lead to stacking a couple of pg/cpu mods and loading out proto weapon + damage mods. I have not messed with the numbers to see if this would be possible it just crossed my mind as soon as I heard the idea of pg/cpu limitations so i figured I would throw it out there. big thanks for that, I had not realized that exploit possibility. Will tread lightly. Broken record mode initialized. Assuming it is technically possible, consider making BPOs the only customizable items that can be fitted on an APEX suit. If it's not a BPO, then it can't replace the default weapons and mods on the suit. It would be great for the players and great for revenue. I like this idea, make std aurum or factional bpo's for everything, as long as the factional stuff is still a grind to obtain, I don't think there would be a problem. "winning" an inch at a time
Alex-ZX Valor Coalition Red Whines. 199	Posted - 2015.01.27 04:31:00 - [15] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Alex-ZX wrote: The can do that just by reducing CPU and PG till its very limits. I mean just the necessary for a new player to use, and everything else is our mistake, not supposed veterans. He already said that he will check it. I think this would lead to stacking a couple of pg/cpu mods and loading out proto weapon + damage mods. I have not messed with the numbers to see if this would be possible it just crossed my mind as soon as I heard the idea of pg/cpu limitations so i figured I would throw it out there. big thanks for that, I had not realized that exploit possibility. Will tread lightly. Those would be ways to solve it. 1 The way to fix it would be just by making them prohibited, I mean that u can't fit cpu or PG mods. 2 make some new modules that have way lower use of CPU and PG, so the limited CPU would work better. I mean. Instead just using 30 of CPU in X thing make it with an usage of 15 for example. At the end the total cpu would be very low and it wouldn't be good to use CPU, PG mods note: it will have to be done with every apex module, all highs and lows. If u have any thought about it. Post possible math issues. Or propose ways to fix it. Edit: as another guy said some posts up. There also would be an option to make just STD modules in bpo. And implement them in Fw for a price of isk LP as apex modules for example... Alex's modified ZX-030 HMG Luis' modified VC-107 CR Alex's modified VC-107 SMG *Owner of this beasts*
DRT 99 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 32	Posted - 2015.01.27 04:35:00 - [16] - Quote Im OK with only BPOs fittable to APEXes, ONLY if BPOs are tradeable.
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback 4441	Posted - 2015.01.27 04:58:00 - [17] - Quote SirManBoy wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Alex-ZX wrote: The can do that just by reducing CPU and PG till its very limits. I mean just the necessary for a new player to use, and everything else is our mistake, not supposed veterans. He already said that he will check it. I think this would lead to stacking a couple of pg/cpu mods and loading out proto weapon + damage mods. I have not messed with the numbers to see if this would be possible it just crossed my mind as soon as I heard the idea of pg/cpu limitations so i figured I would throw it out there. big thanks for that, I had not realized that exploit possibility. Will tread lightly. Broken record mode initialized. Assuming it is technically possible, consider making BPOs the only customizable items that can be fitted on an APEX suit. If it's not a BPO, then it can't replace the default weapons and mods on the suit. It would be great for the players and great for revenue. I actually like this idea. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
rasputin900000 Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 28	Posted - 2015.01.27 05:08:00 - [18] - Quote If adjustability is introduced to the apex it should be limited to same type modules and weapons if you spec in to adv or pro then you could use that gear not be able to replace a shield mod for damage or a shield reg for an armor plate. The fit should always be the fit supplied, but the basic gear could be replaced with upper tier gear as skills progress only. If you want to swap type of gear then you can always buy the quaffe and the neo suits or the drens we already have an assortment of suits available that you could achieve the effect you desire without CCP having to spend days on new code to give you exactly what you're asking for here.
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 7980	Posted - 2015.01.27 05:32:00 - [19] - Quote SirManBoy wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Alex-ZX wrote: The can do that just by reducing CPU and PG till its very limits. I mean just the necessary for a new player to use, and everything else is our mistake, not supposed veterans. He already said that he will check it. I think this would lead to stacking a couple of pg/cpu mods and loading out proto weapon + damage mods. I have not messed with the numbers to see if this would be possible it just crossed my mind as soon as I heard the idea of pg/cpu limitations so i figured I would throw it out there. big thanks for that, I had not realized that exploit possibility. Will tread lightly. Broken record mode initialized. Assuming it is technically possible, consider making BPOs the only customizable items that can be fitted on an APEX suit. If it's not a BPO, then it can't replace the default weapons and mods on the suit. It would be great for the players and great for revenue. So, we're officially suggesting that Proto BPOs would be better because the one thing that made them "not OP" according to their original implementation being that they were uncustomizable... would no longer be applicable..? What's the point of even having Standard BPO's again? Oh right, the whole complex modules deal that they can do with their extremely limited PG/CPU and slot count. Can we just make the proposal to have full-on BPO's of prototype/complex gear and just get it over with now? Sniper range nerf did nothing but make it harder to counter-snipe redliners. That and open up for really stupid feedback
Celus Ivara DUST University Ivy League 289	Posted - 2015.01.27 05:43:00 - [20] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Alex-ZX wrote: The can do that just by reducing CPU and PG till its very limits. I mean just the necessary for a new player to use, and everything else is our mistake, not supposed veterans. He already said that he will check it. I think this would lead to stacking a couple of pg/cpu mods and loading out proto weapon + damage mods. I have not messed with the numbers to see if this would be possible it just crossed my mind as soon as I heard the idea of pg/cpu limitations so i figured I would throw it out there. big thanks for that, I had not realized that exploit possibility. Will tread lightly. Not to be a meanie, but jus' sayin', I gave you this exact warning two months ago to the day. https://twitter.com/Celus_Ivara/status/537847656350236673

Apocalyptic Destroyer KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 260	Posted - 2015.01.27 06:22:00 - [21] - Quote SirManBoy wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Alex-ZX wrote: The can do that just by reducing CPU and PG till its very limits. I mean just the necessary for a new player to use, and everything else is our mistake, not supposed veterans. He already said that he will check it. I think this would lead to stacking a couple of pg/cpu mods and loading out proto weapon + damage mods. I have not messed with the numbers to see if this would be possible it just crossed my mind as soon as I heard the idea of pg/cpu limitations so i figured I would throw it out there. big thanks for that, I had not realized that exploit possibility. Will tread lightly. Broken record mode initialized. Assuming it is technically possible, consider making BPOs the only customizable items that can be fitted on an APEX suit. If it's not a BPO, then it can't replace the default weapons and mods on the suit. It would be great for the players and great for revenue. Holy Crap, that's not bad at all. Not only that but it would definitely entice people to buy the milita and standard BPO stuff. Amarrian In Disguise.. Pain is weakness leaving the body. Proto : ADS Pilot, Tanker, Heavy, Scout, Assault
We are 138 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 675	Posted - 2015.01.27 06:28:00 - [22] - Quote Would be better to be able to lock out any thing besides standard or lower mods. I don't think there is a BPO equivalent for all standard mods, is there? Hello? any one there?
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 577	Posted - 2015.01.27 08:32:00 - [23] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: SirManBoy wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Alex-ZX wrote: The can do that just by reducing CPU and PG till its very limits. I mean just the necessary for a new player to use, and everything else is our mistake, not supposed veterans. He already said that he will check it. I think this would lead to stacking a couple of pg/cpu mods and loading out proto weapon + damage mods. I have not messed with the numbers to see if this would be possible it just crossed my mind as soon as I heard the idea of pg/cpu limitations so i figured I would throw it out there. big thanks for that, I had not realized that exploit possibility. Will tread lightly. Broken record mode initialized. Assuming it is technically possible, consider making BPOs the only customizable items that can be fitted on an APEX suit. If it's not a BPO, then it can't replace the default weapons and mods on the suit. It would be great for the players and great for revenue. Holy Crap, that's not bad at all. Not only that but it would definitely entice people to buy the milita and standard BPO stuff. Me like ^
Drecain Midular Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 43	Posted - 2015.01.27 08:36:00 - [24] - Quote We are 138 wrote: Would be more powerful and not cost me anything to be able to lock out any thing besides standard or lower mods. IMO. Fixed that for you :)
We are 138 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 676	Posted - 2015.01.27 10:29:00 - [25] - Quote Drecain Midular wrote: We are 138 wrote: Would be more powerful and not cost me anything to be able to lock out any thing besides standard or lower mods. IMO. Fixed that for you :) No. Your mind reading ability's fail again. Despite my poor grammar I ment what I said. So keep your words in your own mouth please. Hello? any one there?
Breakin Stuff Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 6790	Posted - 2015.01.27 10:39:00 - [26] - Quote If you cal make the APEX BPOs only fittable with meta 1 (STD/MLT) items. OR... You can simply exclude PG/CPU modules for APEX suits. Either script them to be unusable in APEX or you can make the APEX statblock modified by skills only. I know there's a switch to pull that lets you set things like frames so they can't benefit from skill bonuses. AV
Zepod Titans of Phoenix VP Gaming Alliance 100	Posted - 2015.01.27 14:56:00 - [27] - Quote You could just make it to where items fitted onto the suit can't exceed the STD tier. You may not like what I said, but it's true. It might anger or offend you, but it's still true.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 9345	Posted - 2015.01.27 15:18:00 - [28] - Quote Hey if i got the faction Spartan assault could I only put Loyalty point modules on the suits as well as BPOs? Sure it may be a tad OP but I'm reduced to the Federal Marines (or x faction) and BPO items . Either that or I want a different color for my Federation Apex suit, worked too hard for the Federation not to be distinguished from the AUR spenders. What about renaming the Apex suits in the Factional Store after the Factions and giving them the Factional color. That's all id want, some recognition, some prestige AND A BIG WHITE EAGLE OF FREEDOM! *Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente HAV name!* *~Democracy will win!*
DDx77 The Exemplars RISE of LEGION 98	Posted - 2015.01.27 17:38:00 - [29] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Alex-ZX wrote: The can do that just by reducing CPU and PG till its very limits. I mean just the necessary for a new player to use, and everything else is our mistake, not supposed veterans. He already said that he will check it. I think this would lead to stacking a couple of pg/cpu mods and loading out proto weapon + damage mods. I have not messed with the numbers to see if this would be possible it just crossed my mind as soon as I heard the idea of pg/cpu limitations so i figured I would throw it out there. big thanks for that, I had not realized that exploit possibility. Will tread lightly. What about simply allowing only the assault variety of a weapon to be switched? For example on the Caldari assault allow us the switch the state rail rifle with the assault rail or the magsec with the bolt pistol I don't agree in being able to swap gear for other racial variants unless there is no other variant available ie: Hmg
DRT 99 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 33	Posted - 2015.01.28 08:11:00 - [30] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: big thanks for that, I had not realized that exploit possibility. Will tread lightly. not sure how complicated it would be, but wouldnt it be possible to prevent placement of fitting mods on APEX suits?



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