They are stupidly OP, every idiot can kill in a suit with double hps and double dps. They have been stupidly OP since 1.8 it is time to balance them.

They fact that they ve been so op for so long makes me think that you never ever play your own game, or at least that no one in CCP or the CPM plays PC!

Sentinels are OP at their Role?

Working as intended...

Logi's are OP at their role

Scouts are OP at their role..

Assaults are OP at their role..

Commandoes - we warned CCP that they would have the hardest time finding a role for this suit and then balancing it.



You get a sentinel out to a field and they are useless...

You can have more health and do more damage with any suit except the logi.

You scan out a scout with a gal logi and they are squishy and useless...

You can try to get an assault to push an objective defended by sentinels and are largely easy pickins...

Commandoes die anywhere except in toe to toe fights with some distance.





Sentinels are strong at their role but are near useless on any map without closed internal structures..


Nerfing something because it is too good at it's role is about as stupid as these forums get.

I will answer to you cause this is the only answer that isnt completely ********.

What is sentinels role? Defend points!
Now I am sure none that answered so far have ever played a single PC match. Now how are sentinels used in PC? To defend points, yes, but they are the main force to attack too. Sentinels have been OP out of their role for way too long, assaults are almost never used to assault, it is sentinels role. Assaults are only useful when they support sentinel's attack.

Go play a PC and use sentinels only to defend and assaults to attack points...

I will answer to you cause this is the only answer that isnt completely ********.

What is sentinels role? Defend points!
Now I am sure none that answered so far have ever played a single PC match. Now how are sentinels used in PC? To defend points, yes, but they are the main force to attack too. Sentinels have been OP out of their role for way too long, assaults are almost never used to assault, it is sentinels role. Assaults are only useful when they support sentinel's attack.

Go play a PC and use sentinels only to defend and assaults to attack points...

I will answer to you cause this is the only answer that isnt completely ********.

What is sentinels role? Defend points!
Now I am sure none that answered so far have ever played a single PC match. Now how are sentinels used in PC? To defend points, yes, but they are the main force to attack too. Sentinels have been OP out of their role for way too long, assaults are almost never used to assault, it is sentinels role. Assaults are only useful when they support sentinel's attack.

Go play a PC and use sentinels only to defend and assaults to attack points...

That heavy who is on the attack - is he backed by a logi? Is he speed tanking? Because, a heavy isn't attacking on it's own. It will require an uplink close enough that he isn't ripped a part trying to get anywhere. So if heavies are giving you issues in PC the other side has an excellent support player putting their heavies there.

The heavy has a singular purpose - kill. Assaults, Logi's, Scouts, they can do a multitude of different roles and have many more variations of play. So it goes to show that the heavy whose only role is carry a big gun would dominate confrontations handed to him up front.

The trick in PC is to get your scouts to find out where heavies are coming from and circle around and kill up-link. Just ignore the heavies till the point is secure for a push - heavies don't live long.

They are stupidly OP, every idiot can kill in a suit with double hps and double dps. They have been stupidly OP since 1.8 it is time to balance them.

They fact that they ve been so op for so long makes me think that you never ever play your own game, or at least that no one in CCP or the CPM plays PC!

Commandoes die anywhere except in toe to toe fights with some distance.

Ignore the heavies? How can you Ignore something with almost 1000 dps? You play PC, like me, be sincere and tell this guys if you usually have more heavies or more assaults in your PC team. You are right, scouts have their role... What about assaults? What should they do against a sentinel?

2 assaults are attacked by a sentinel and his logi? Who will win? (inb4 the 2 assaults have to flank, kill the logi then start flanking the sentinel to be able to kill him)

So you are telling two things:

1 no room for assaults in a city
2 the hmg doesn't destroy an assault if he can strafe (lol)

I love how everyone has a perfect aim on the forum!

To PC players: Arent sentinels the most spammed thing in PC with scouts since 1.8?

I think it's becoming obvious why you've been on the losing team for so long.

You don't understand this game at all.

Teach me grandmaster what did I misunderstood?
As an assault the only thing I am supposed to do against a sentinel is escape. Am I right now? As an assault I should never enter a city, I should only stay outside or Camp roof. Am I correct?
With an hmg you have more problems against a strafer than other Guns, even with 2x the dps, correct?

It doesn't take a genius to understand that the assault role is DPS - and that the city is mainly a rooftop/catwalk confrontation. This gives the assaults room to breathe and be useful in holding points and positions.

On certain maps - such as Towers map with the playstation building - you will want to bring many more assaults then scouts or heavies, as they'll be DPSing everything down from the shrooms and roofs. And you'll want Mincommando supporting them.

As is everything in this game - it's all situational. The only map that is played in PC these days is the Rings map - and heavies dominate it because everything is shootable within 35m and there's plenty of corners and crates to hide behind.

Thank you for editing, that post made you look like a complete faggt.

So answer to this question, yes or no: as an assault my main roles in a PC are A) defending outside points Or B) if I want to be effective in the city, I have to Camp on roofs.

Sentinels are OP at their Role?

Working as intended...

Logi's are OP at their role

Scouts are OP at their role..

Assaults are OP at their role..

Commandoes - we warned CCP that they would have the hardest time finding a role for this suit and then balancing it.



You get a sentinel out to a field and they are useless...

You can have more health and do more damage with any suit except the logi.

You scan out a scout with a gal logi and they are squishy and useless...

You can try to get an assault to push an objective defended by sentinels and are largely easy pickins...

Commandoes die anywhere except in toe to toe fights with some distance.





Sentinels are strong at their role but are near useless on any map without closed internal structures..


Nerfing something because it is too good at it's role is about as stupid as these forums get.

I did a huge mathematical demonstration of how OP Sentinels are. unfortunately it was too long to read.

There are two reasons: there's no real counter to a sentinel except another sentinel (in other words it's more like a rock, paper, scissor, shotgun)
Sentinels + Heavies are the only classes which can equip the best mid/close range weapon.

Hence in competitive matches you'll only see sentinels + logi on cqc points and scouts + vehicles on the other points.

In my opinion, there should be an anti-heavy class (which, i think should be the commando but it actually doesn't its job well)

(Logi) Commando>Heavy>Assault>Scout>Commando would make sense to me...

No counter?

Remove RE's from the game - they literally make heavies pointless. Then you can say we have no counter, lol.

No counter?

Remove RE's from the game - they literally make heavies pointless. Then you can say we have no counter, lol.

Nerfing something because it is too good at it's role is about as stupid as these forums get.

They are stupidly OP, every idiot can kill in a suit with double hps and double dps. They have been stupidly OP since 1.8 it is time to balance them.

They fact that they ve been so op for so long makes me think that you never ever play your own game, or at least that no one in CCP or the CPM plays PC!

Seems like OP doesn't understand the role of the character he is playing.

In PC you are already more than likely going against some of the best in the game. Add that you don't understand the role that you chose to play and you have a recipe for disaster.

Seems that you want an assault to do what the Sentinel is doing. Not going to happen bud. Either accept your roles as Sota stated what they were and he was being brutally honest or respec into a heavy role and really see how limited they can be. Unless of course you use your imagination and try different fits and get the lulz from it.

So what your saying is that you can't hit a slow moving...barn???

No, I want the Assault to assault, the sentinel to... Sentinel. How it is now the sentinel defends and assaults and the Assault (as sota said) can escape and Camp roofs, but since you are so Wise, tell me what is the role of the Assault and what I am misunderstanding..

I can hit him... The problem is he has 2x the hps and 2x the dps I have. Even if I hit him with 100% of the bullets and he hit me with only 33% of the bullets he will still win... Seems legit.

No, I want the Assault to assault, the sentinel to... Sentinel. How it is now the sentinel defends and assaults and the Assault (as sota said) can escape and Camp roofs, but since you are so Wise, tell me what is the role of the Assault and what I am misunderstanding..

I can hit him... The problem is he has 2x the hps and 2x the dps I have. Even if I hit him with 100% of the bullets and he hit me with only 33% of the bullets he will still win... Seems legit.

When you say you want the Sentinel to Sentinel, you want it to just be able to sit there like a turret spinning in place, correct? You could hit it then.

According to this, http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sentinel what I say above is EXACTLY what you want.


Sota gave you the blue print for playing with the Assault character. Because it SAYS assault doesn't mean it should be used as a head-on vessel. Use it wisely and it is an awesome killing machine.

Look dude. Don't try and take one head-on or by yourself. I've ran hmg/forge since the day I logged on to this game. They are very weak and hard to play with. Very limited in what they can do and without city maps, basically useless in this game aside from AV.

Honestly, man, I'd rather just call you an idiot and move on at this point, which was going to be my last post, but I'll make it this one instead.

Because you crying about what assaults are capable of is laughable - because I didn't choose heavy to act like a ******* mobile turret. Dust was supposed to allow complete customization of our perfect soldier - but we can see how much BS that is. If a heavy even trys to play as something other then point defense - you'll ******* cry your eyes out until CCP nerfs it rather then modifying your suits and play to handle the situation.

There's ******* modules on your suit for a ******* reason and a large array of different weapon choices for a ******* reason. Use it and shut the **** up.

REs are a counter to anything in the game.. So. I agree with you on this, remote them from the game or change them.

Do you really think that saying fcking, calling me an idiot or a blueberry, telling me to git gud prove you are right?

If you cant see that Sentinels and scouts have dominated PC since 1.8,and that assaults are barely used in PC you are either blind, stupid or lying.

I will answer to you cause this is the only answer that isnt completely ********.

What is sentinels role? Defend points!
Now I am sure none that answered so far have ever played a single PC match. Now how are sentinels used in PC? To defend points, yes, but they are the main force to attack too. Sentinels have been OP out of their role for way too long, assaults are almost never used to assault, it is sentinels role. Assaults are only useful when they support sentinel's attack.

Go play a PC and use sentinels only to defend and assaults to attack points...

Get the **** out. Heavies do their job, don't try to take them one on one face to face within arms reach and maybe just maybe. You wouldn't come to the forums and whine like a little *****. I've done PC by the way and they do their job. And this is from a minmatar scout.

The best slayers in the game use Assaults and have since Uprising launched... Have for years.


And let's be fair and blunt here... PC has spent more time dominated by Assault suits then anything...

Then would spend more time being dominated by Logi suits next... Then we can talk about Heavies and Scouts.


And back to the original statement... The best slayers still use assault suits in PC and make them effective... The Best Heavies in PC where Heavies LOOOONG before 1.6...

Most of the bitter rage about sentinel vs sentinel fights are players who are trying to run them against veteran sentinels who have been through years of the class in experience...

If your in a close range map with letters in close proximity.. and you can't put some range between you and a sentinel? You will die.

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If sentinel's try and push a letter and you take out their spawn capabilities and logistic support... What will they do? Run around a slow bull all mad? Try and hack a letter and put their back to us?

Heavies pushing objectives successfully completely require proper support tactics behind them in PC... If they are not in place it becomes a Public match attempt at creating a meat grinder scenario.... This tactic often doesn't play out in PC unless you have two sides with amazing support...

Otherwise one sides support wins and one side get's wiped... Then your forced to reset and push with dropships on to high points, clear their support and follow that pattern until you have removed enough of their support to take and hold an objective.

You are going at PC tactics from such a small picture when the large picture is staring at you in the face... Often the heroes of PC matches aren't the sentinel's with 35 kills and 4 deaths... It is the Scout and Assault's who have killed 60 Uplinks and 10 logi's.

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Map's that don't have objectives in close proximity are quickly paid millions and millions of ISK and transferred over to run certain strategies and tactics....

Run a different map with your corporation and build individual strategies for that map and get strong at that... Because corporations have the freedom to change maps and build their team and theory craft tactics around a very limited set of maps on purpose... If you want to compete with their preparation and practice then so be it.. But it will cost you as much if not mroe then what they spent.

Billions of ISK has been spent converting maps in PC.

If your trying to counter that by getting a sentinel suit and fighting toe to toe with another sentinel then explaining that this is how PC works...

Your just screwing over yourself with your own limitations on thought.

Jesus Holy fuking Christ man. Go grab a kleenex, midol, tampons. If you cant find a way to kill heavies then just quit playing.

You can outrange them rail rifles, drop RE's, shotgun them. Running a heavy is not easy mode.

Most of all,,,,please reach down a grab your balls and make sure they are still attached. Realize you are still a man and quit acting like a b!tch.

With all due respect of course....

MyBalls On Urchin