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Pagl1u M
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.01.25 18:04:00 -
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They are stupidly OP, every idiot can kill in a suit with double hps and double dps. They have been stupidly OP since 1.8 it is time to balance them.
They fact that they ve been so op for so long makes me think that you never ever play your own game, or at least that no one in CCP or the CPM plays PC!
One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
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Pagl1u M
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.01.25 18:23:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Sentinels are OP at their Role?
Working as intended...
Logi's are OP at their role
Scouts are OP at their role..
Assaults are OP at their role..
Commandoes - we warned CCP that they would have the hardest time finding a role for this suit and then balancing it.
You get a sentinel out to a field and they are useless...
You can have more health and do more damage with any suit except the logi.
You scan out a scout with a gal logi and they are squishy and useless...
You can try to get an assault to push an objective defended by sentinels and are largely easy pickins...
Commandoes die anywhere except in toe to toe fights with some distance.
Sentinels are strong at their role but are near useless on any map without closed internal structures..
Nerfing something because it is too good at it's role is about as stupid as these forums get.
I will answer to you cause this is the only answer that isnt completely ********.
What is sentinels role? Defend points! Now I am sure none that answered so far have ever played a single PC match. Now how are sentinels used in PC? To defend points, yes, but they are the main force to attack too. Sentinels have been OP out of their role for way too long, assaults are almost never used to assault, it is sentinels role. Assaults are only useful when they support sentinel's attack.
Go play a PC and use sentinels only to defend and assaults to attack points...
One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
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Pagl1u M
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.01.25 18:34:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Pagl1u M wrote:Bethhy wrote:Sentinels are OP at their Role?
Working as intended...
Logi's are OP at their role
Scouts are OP at their role..
Assaults are OP at their role..
Commandoes - we warned CCP that they would have the hardest time finding a role for this suit and then balancing it.
You get a sentinel out to a field and they are useless...
You can have more health and do more damage with any suit except the logi.
You scan out a scout with a gal logi and they are squishy and useless...
You can try to get an assault to push an objective defended by sentinels and are largely easy pickins...
Commandoes die anywhere except in toe to toe fights with some distance.
Sentinels are strong at their role but are near useless on any map without closed internal structures..
Nerfing something because it is too good at it's role is about as stupid as these forums get.
I will answer to you cause this is the only answer that isnt completely ********. What is sentinels role? Defend points! Now I am sure none that answered so far have ever played a single PC match. Now how are sentinels used in PC? To defend points, yes, but they are the main force to attack too. Sentinels have been OP out of their role for way too long, assaults are almost never used to assault, it is sentinels role. Assaults are only useful when they support sentinel's attack. Go play a PC and use sentinels only to defend and assaults to attack points... That heavy who is on the attack - is he backed by a logi? Is he speed tanking? Because, a heavy isn't attacking on it's own. It will require an uplink close enough that he isn't ripped a part trying to get anywhere. So if heavies are giving you issues in PC the other side has an excellent support player putting their heavies there. The heavy has a singular purpose - kill. Assaults, Logi's, Scouts, they can do a multitude of different roles and have many more variations of play. So it goes to show that the heavy whose only role is carry a big gun would dominate confrontations handed to him up front. The trick in PC is to get your scouts to find out where heavies are coming from and circle around and kill up-link. Just ignore the heavies till the point is secure for a push - heavies don't live long. Ignore the heavies? How can you Ignore something with almost 1000 dps? You play PC, like me, be sincere and tell this guys if you usually have more heavies or more assaults in your PC team. You are right, scouts have their role... What about assaults? What should they do against a sentinel?
2 assaults are attacked by a sentinel and his logi? Who will win? (inb4 the 2 assaults have to flank, kill the logi then start flanking the sentinel to be able to kill him)
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Pagl1u M
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.01.25 18:49:00 -
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I love how everyone has a perfect aim on the forum!
To PC players: Arent sentinels the most spammed thing in PC with scouts since 1.8?
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Pagl1u M
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.01.25 18:57:00 -
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So you are telling two things:
1 no room for assaults in a city 2 the hmg doesn't destroy an assault if he can strafe (lol)
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Pagl1u M
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.01.25 19:03:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Pagl1u M wrote:So you are telling two things:
1 no room for assaults in a city 2 the hmg doesn't destroy an assault if he can strafe (lol) I think it's becoming obvious why you've been on the losing team for so long. You don't understand this game at all. Teach me grandmaster what did I misunderstood? As an assault the only thing I am supposed to do against a sentinel is escape. Am I right now? As an assault I should never enter a city, I should only stay outside or Camp roof. Am I correct? With an hmg you have more problems against a strafer than other Guns, even with 2x the dps, correct?
One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
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Pagl1u M
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.01.25 19:17:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Pagl1u M wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Pagl1u M wrote:So you are telling two things:
1 no room for assaults in a city 2 the hmg doesn't destroy an assault if he can strafe (lol) I think it's becoming obvious why you've been on the losing team for so long. You don't understand this game at all. Teach me grandmaster what did I misunderstood? As an assault the only thing I am supposed to do against a sentinel is escape. Am I right now? As an assault I should never enter a city, I should only stay outside or Camp roof. Am I correct? With an hmg you have more problems against a strafer than other Guns, even with 2x the dps, correct? It doesn't take a genius to understand that the assault role is DPS - and that the city is mainly a rooftop/catwalk confrontation. This gives the assaults room to breathe and be useful in holding points and positions. On certain maps - such as Towers map with the playstation building - you will want to bring many more assaults then scouts or heavies, as they'll be DPSing everything down from the shrooms and roofs. And you'll want Mincommando supporting them. As is everything in this game - it's all situational. The only map that is played in PC these days is the Rings map - and heavies dominate it because everything is shootable within 35m and there's plenty of corners and crates to hide behind. Thank you for editing, that post made you look like a complete faggt.
So answer to this question, yes or no: as an assault my main roles in a PC are A) defending outside points Or B) if I want to be effective in the city, I have to Camp on roofs.
One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
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Pagl1u M
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.01.25 19:50:00 -
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REs are a counter to anything in the game.. So. I agree with you on this, remote them from the game or change them.
Do you really think that saying fcking, calling me an idiot or a blueberry, telling me to git gud prove you are right?
If you cant see that Sentinels and scouts have dominated PC since 1.8,and that assaults are barely used in PC you are either blind, stupid or lying.
One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
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Pagl1u M
Dead Man's Game RUST415
1403
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Posted - 2015.01.25 20:03:00 -
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bigolenuts wrote:Seems like OP doesn't understand the role of the character he is playing.
In PC you are already more than likely going against some of the best in the game. Add that you don't understand the role that you chose to play and you have a recipe for disaster.
Seems that you want an assault to do what the Sentinel is doing. Not going to happen bud. Either accept your roles as Sota stated what they were and he was being brutally honest or respec into a heavy role and really see how limited they can be. Unless of course you use your imagination and try different fits and get the lulz from it. No, I want the Assault to assault, the sentinel to... Sentinel. How it is now the sentinel defends and assaults and the Assault (as sota said) can escape and Camp roofs, but since you are so Wise, tell me what is the role of the Assault and what I am misunderstanding..
Big Burns wrote:Pagl1u M wrote:They are stupidly OP, every idiot can kill in a suit with double hps and double dps. They have been stupidly OP since 1.8 it is time to balance them.
They fact that they ve been so op for so long makes me think that you never ever play your own game, or at least that no one in CCP or the CPM plays PC! So what your saying is that you can't hit a slow moving...barn??? I can hit him... The problem is he has 2x the hps and 2x the dps I have. Even if I hit him with 100% of the bullets and he hit me with only 33% of the bullets he will still win... Seems legit.
One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
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Pagl1u M
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.01.25 20:06:00 -
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Pagl1u M wrote:bigolenuts wrote:Seems like OP doesn't understand the role of the character he is playing.
In PC you are already more than likely going against some of the best in the game. Add that you don't understand the role that you chose to play and you have a recipe for disaster.
Seems that you want an assault to do what the Sentinel is doing. Not going to happen bud. Either accept your roles as Sota stated what they were and he was being brutally honest or respec into a heavy role and really see how limited they can be. Unless of course you use your imagination and try different fits and get the lulz from it. No, I want the Assault to assault, the sentinel to... Sentinel. How it is now the sentinel defends and assaults and the Assault (as sota said) can escape and Camp roofs, but since you are so Wise, tell me what is the role of the Assault and what I am misunderstanding.. Big Burns wrote:Pagl1u M wrote:They are stupidly OP, every idiot can kill in a suit with double hps and double dps. They have been stupidly OP since 1.8 it is time to balance them.
They fact that they ve been so op for so long makes me think that you never ever play your own game, or at least that no one in CCP or the CPM plays PC! So what your saying is that you can't hit a slow moving...barn??? I can hit him... The problem is he has 2x the hps and 2x the dps I have. Even if I hit him with 100% of the bullets and he hit me with only 33% of the bullets he will still win... Seems legit. Ups I almost forgot resistancies. Lol
One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
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Pagl1u M
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.01.25 20:30:00 -
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bigolenuts wrote:Pagl1u M wrote:bigolenuts wrote:Seems like OP doesn't understand the role of the character he is playing.
In PC you are already more than likely going against some of the best in the game. Add that you don't understand the role that you chose to play and you have a recipe for disaster.
Seems that you want an assault to do what the Sentinel is doing. Not going to happen bud. Either accept your roles as Sota stated what they were and he was being brutally honest or respec into a heavy role and really see how limited they can be. Unless of course you use your imagination and try different fits and get the lulz from it. No, I want the Assault to assault, the sentinel to... Sentinel. How it is now the sentinel defends and assaults and the Assault (as sota said) can escape and Camp roofs, but since you are so Wise, tell me what is the role of the Assault and what I am misunderstanding.. Big Burns wrote:Pagl1u M wrote:They are stupidly OP, every idiot can kill in a suit with double hps and double dps. They have been stupidly OP since 1.8 it is time to balance them.
They fact that they ve been so op for so long makes me think that you never ever play your own game, or at least that no one in CCP or the CPM plays PC! So what your saying is that you can't hit a slow moving...barn??? I can hit him... The problem is he has 2x the hps and 2x the dps I have. Even if I hit him with 100% of the bullets and he hit me with only 33% of the bullets he will still win... Seems legit. When you say you want the Sentinel to Sentinel, you want it to just be able to sit there like a turret spinning in place, correct? You could hit it then. According to this, http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sentinel what I say above is EXACTLY what you want. Sota gave you the blue print for playing with the Assault character. Because it SAYS assault doesn't mean it should be used as a head-on vessel. Use it wisely and it is an awesome killing machine. Look dude. Don't try and take one head-on or by yourself. I've ran hmg/forge since the day I logged on to this game. They are very weak and hard to play with. Very limited in what they can do and without city maps, basically useless in this game aside from AV. Sota said to gtfo the city or Camp roofs, it this really what I should do as an assault? Wow.
"a soldier stationed as a guard to challenge all comers and prevent a surprise attack" sentinels are the first weapon to attack points in the city, is this their intended role?
I m not saying I should win every fight against a sentinel in cqc, I m saying that if I outplay him I should have a good chance of winning. As it is now, if a sentinel and an assault have the same amount of personal skill the sentinel will always easily win, unless there are 45+ mtrs between them or the assaults are 2v1
One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
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Pagl1u M
Dead Man's Game RUST415
1404
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Posted - 2015.01.25 21:24:00 -
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Stryker Syx Vector wrote:Pagl1u M wrote:Bethhy wrote:Sentinels are OP at their Role?
Working as intended...
Logi's are OP at their role
Scouts are OP at their role..
Assaults are OP at their role..
Commandoes - we warned CCP that they would have the hardest time finding a role for this suit and then balancing it.
You get a sentinel out to a field and they are useless...
You can have more health and do more damage with any suit except the logi.
You scan out a scout with a gal logi and they are squishy and useless...
You can try to get an assault to push an objective defended by sentinels and are largely easy pickins...
Commandoes die anywhere except in toe to toe fights with some distance.
Sentinels are strong at their role but are near useless on any map without closed internal structures..
Nerfing something because it is too good at it's role is about as stupid as these forums get.
I will answer to you cause this is the only answer that isnt completely ********. What is sentinels role? Defend points! Now I am sure none that answered so far have ever played a single PC match. Now how are sentinels used in PC? To defend points, yes, but they are the main force to attack too. Sentinels have been OP out of their role for way too long, assaults are almost never used to assault, it is sentinels role. Assaults are only useful when they support sentinel's attack. Go play a PC and use sentinels only to defend and assaults to attack points... Get the **** out. Heavies do their job, don't try to take them one on one face to face within arms reach and maybe just maybe. You wouldn't come to the forums and whine like a little *****. I've done PC by the way and they do their job. And this is from a minmatar scout. They DONT do their job, they do both their job... That is defending points, but they are also the main weapon to attack points in PC, which isnt their job.
Also there is a great difference between scouts and assaults when it comes to face sentinels.
How many pcs have you played? Two?
One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
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