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demonkiller 12
Titans of Phoenix
VP Gaming Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.24 06:43:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Oh god, we are running low on buckets. Quick some one borrow a couple from the last RE thread. Asap!
XD
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Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2015.01.24 06:44:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Sorry.
Your heavy is not an "I win" button...
He was using a Minmatar heavy. Of course it isn't an "I win" button.
Crappy suit, that one.
I am a minotaur.
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demonkiller 12
Titans of Phoenix
VP Gaming Alliance
522
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Posted - 2015.01.24 06:44:00 -
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lowdevil wrote:my 1400hp minmatar proto hvy down in 1 hit
my 900hp gal assault down in 1 hit
lost a logi at 3m from nova's with 2.5m range
pay attention devs, this is a huge imbalance
For you my friend, I skill into nova knives
Loveulongtime
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Templar XIII
Vherokior Combat Logistics
Minmatar Republic
45
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Posted - 2015.01.24 07:13:00 -
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Nova knife range is ok and 3m range most probably due to rounding up
and latency,
its maximum damage output is reigned by run and charge incompatibility.
If ever the nova knife needed any nerds, it is this:
1. It has to be possible to block a nova knife blow with a well timed
counter-melee attack, not because it is absolutely necessary, but because
it would be halfway realistic
2. nova knife is the only hand-held weapon atm that can cut through
invulnerability timer on spawn, compare-tested with AR, PLC, MD, CR,
HMG, SMG, SCR. This has to stop, because it puts all other players at
a grave disadvantage.
P.S.: I still have the nagging suspicion, the locus grande and RE do negate spawn
invulnerability as well, but did not yet find the time to evaluate, only one spawn
camping at a time, and it is hard to plan with the right weapon at hand and
hard to overcome the urge/routine to simply destroy spawns for science.  |
WeapondigitX V7
The Exemplars
RISE of LEGION
195
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Posted - 2015.01.24 08:58:00 -
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The max dps of proto nova knifes is roughly 1000 at 2.5 meters ranges
max dps of shotgun is roughly 550 at 4m ranges
max dps of assault rifle is roughly 460 at 40m ranges.
2.5 meters is so small that you deserve to die if he got that close to you.
You should be more self aware. You should try to be actively paranoid. Always turn around every 10 seconds in open areas to check for flanking enemies. Always turn around every 20 seconds in cities as long as you are not engaged in fights at the time.
Even when you are the most aware soldier on the battlefield you will die. New eden combat can be fast, frantic, brutal, and instantly lethal at times. You will have bad luck occasionally soldier. This is a fact of war.
If he got that close to you, then you probably would have died anyway if it was a shotgun instead. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10874
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Posted - 2015.01.24 15:56:00 -
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Starlight Burner wrote:When I think about this statement, it doesn't make sense.
"If you let an enemy get that close, you deserve to die."
Scouts can be fully undetectable by scans. Even stacking Complex Precision Enhancers with proto scans, I still fail to pick up most scouts that run around doing so.
To a fair extent OP does have a valid point.
The thing about scouts is that they have to sacrifice all of their tank to get under your scanners. I have been scanned quite often even when fitting a complex profile dampener. To make it harder for the knifer, the Minmatar Scout suit has no bonus to profile dampening which means I have to fit one more dampener to combat the tough scanners. And in order for the Minscout to be able to dish out all that damage from the knives, not only do I need maximum skills invested into the knives and suit, but I also need to fit damage mods especially if I want to OHK a proto heavy. Since speed is also key to the Minscout, I'll have to fill my remaining low slot with a kinetic catalyzer. In total, this leave me with bare minimum HP. I am so weak at this point that if you so much as check what's behind you for even a second before I catch up with you, I'm dead. Breach ARs will wreck me with a few rounds. CRs can welp me. Shotguns are even scarier to a Minscout.
You won't get much damage out of the knives if you use them with any other suit besides a Minscout. The Galscout is the only suit that can evade all scans when full maxed out but you won't be able to OHK a heavy with a knife using this suit. Galscouts may as well use a shotgun which they seem to shine very well with. In fact, Minscouts usually avoid shotgun users unless they have a guarantee they won't die to one for that moment in time.
Again, Minscouts have no EWAR and must sacrifice all of their tank for speed, damage and a complex dampener. That said, a Minscout's best place to be is in the hills where the terrain masks their profile.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Edau Skir2
Nefantar Raiders
310
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Posted - 2015.01.24 16:09:00 -
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What confuses me about Nova Knives is their damage. I had a 980eHP Minmando killed in one hit, seems fair. However, the kill screen said, "Damage Dealt; 512" so how does that work?! 
Resident pasty smasher
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10876
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Posted - 2015.01.24 16:11:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:What confuses me about Nova Knives is their damage. I had a 980eHP Minmando killed in one hit, seems fair. However, the kill screen said, "Damage Dealt; 512" so how does that work?!
Are you sure you didn't get hit by someone else before the knifer got to you?
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Edau Skir2
Nefantar Raiders
310
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Posted - 2015.01.24 19:13:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Edau Skir2 wrote:What confuses me about Nova Knives is their damage. I had a 980eHP Minmando killed in one hit, seems fair. However, the kill screen said, "Damage Dealt; 512" so how does that work?! Are you sure you didn't get hit by someone else before the knifer got to you?
Positive. CQC, not another person around as I was dropping uplinks, knife swish, dead.
Resident pasty smasher
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10881
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Posted - 2015.01.24 20:29:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Edau Skir2 wrote:What confuses me about Nova Knives is their damage. I had a 980eHP Minmando killed in one hit, seems fair. However, the kill screen said, "Damage Dealt; 512" so how does that work?! Are you sure you didn't get hit by someone else before the knifer got to you? Positive. CQC, not another person around as I was dropping uplinks, knife swish, dead.
Strange.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Insidious Bane
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
17
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Posted - 2015.01.24 20:51:00 -
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Knives make for an excellent Kill
Mostly used by those with Skill
I will kill you and rule the Day
Afterwards I will meet pay
Nova Knives are Op
Surely you are kidding me |
Pseudogenesis
Nos Nothi
1416
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Posted - 2015.01.24 22:42:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48H34ukFe8g
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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