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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2015.01.23 18:01:00 -
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lowdevil wrote:my 1400hp minmatar proto hvy down in 1 hit
my 900hp gal assault down in 1 hit
lost a logi at 3m from nova's with 2.5m range
pay attention devs, this is a huge imbalance
1. If that player was able to kill you within the first pass of the knives, then that player has no shield tank. Since only Minmatar Scouts have a bonus to nova knife damage and they require a lot of speed to get close to you while also having to fit a profile dampener to sneak up on you, that means they are so weak in armor that a few stray bullets not intended for them can kill them. just give them a hard stare and they're down for the count. Minscouts happen to be the only suits that mostly run naked.
2. If a scout that weak managed to get that close to you given what was pointed out above, then that scout deserves the reward of killing you.
3. Stick with a group. Minjas are less likely to attack you if you have company.
PS: The only possible way a Minja can successfully stab you while you're wearing a proto heavy suit is if you're a proto heavy roaming alone. Fat, slow, and alone is just asking for it.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2015.01.23 18:44:00 -
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Clone D wrote:A little known fact about nova knives is that they are 9.84 feet long, and that they swipe in a 180 degree arc from the source, so you can side step all you want, but if you find yourself within that 152 square foot area, then you go down in a single swipe.
In my opinion, their range is way too far. If minjas wanna kill me with knives, they should be within arm's reach (approximately 25 inches or 0.63 meters yielding a much smaller area of effect which makes more sense). But I accept the mechanics of the weapon as they are and try to avoid it, even though my mind often creates the illusion that I should be out of reach of a knife.
I don't see the op as a whine so much as having his/her mind blown by the total absurdity of the power of the Nova Knives.
@OP There are a lot of hypocrites who troll about buckets of tears and then start their own thread about some other OP weapon, so don't take it to heart pal.
2.5 meters = 8.2 feet
Where did you get 9.84 feet from?
Also, the total area being covered is 105 square feet, not 152.
One more thing, a merc standing on the side being hit by the knives will only take half damage due to the nature of the swipes.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2015.01.23 19:42:00 -
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@Clone D
Well, a normal arm can reach close to a meter fully extended. The nova knives however are pretty big. About the size of a bayonet but even then I have never seen a bayonet as long as a meter. Originally the absolute range use to be 2 meters but CCP extended it to 2.5 for balancing purposes especially considering that we can't sprint while charging knives.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2015.01.24 15:56:00 -
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Starlight Burner wrote:When I think about this statement, it doesn't make sense.
"If you let an enemy get that close, you deserve to die."
Scouts can be fully undetectable by scans. Even stacking Complex Precision Enhancers with proto scans, I still fail to pick up most scouts that run around doing so.
To a fair extent OP does have a valid point.
The thing about scouts is that they have to sacrifice all of their tank to get under your scanners. I have been scanned quite often even when fitting a complex profile dampener. To make it harder for the knifer, the Minmatar Scout suit has no bonus to profile dampening which means I have to fit one more dampener to combat the tough scanners. And in order for the Minscout to be able to dish out all that damage from the knives, not only do I need maximum skills invested into the knives and suit, but I also need to fit damage mods especially if I want to OHK a proto heavy. Since speed is also key to the Minscout, I'll have to fill my remaining low slot with a kinetic catalyzer. In total, this leave me with bare minimum HP. I am so weak at this point that if you so much as check what's behind you for even a second before I catch up with you, I'm dead. Breach ARs will wreck me with a few rounds. CRs can welp me. Shotguns are even scarier to a Minscout.
You won't get much damage out of the knives if you use them with any other suit besides a Minscout. The Galscout is the only suit that can evade all scans when full maxed out but you won't be able to OHK a heavy with a knife using this suit. Galscouts may as well use a shotgun which they seem to shine very well with. In fact, Minscouts usually avoid shotgun users unless they have a guarantee they won't die to one for that moment in time.
Again, Minscouts have no EWAR and must sacrifice all of their tank for speed, damage and a complex dampener. That said, a Minscout's best place to be is in the hills where the terrain masks their profile.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2015.01.24 16:11:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:What confuses me about Nova Knives is their damage. I had a 980eHP Minmando killed in one hit, seems fair. However, the kill screen said, "Damage Dealt; 512" so how does that work?! 
Are you sure you didn't get hit by someone else before the knifer got to you?
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2015.01.24 20:29:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Edau Skir2 wrote:What confuses me about Nova Knives is their damage. I had a 980eHP Minmando killed in one hit, seems fair. However, the kill screen said, "Damage Dealt; 512" so how does that work?! Are you sure you didn't get hit by someone else before the knifer got to you? Positive. CQC, not another person around as I was dropping uplinks, knife swish, dead.
Strange.
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